Linux-Misc Digest #579, Volume #24 Wed, 24 May 00 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Console messages on virtual terminals (Matthew Haley)
Re: Changing case of first letter in filename (Thomas Hommel)
Re: sccs in linux ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
Raw devices in Suse 6.4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ?? ("Rick")
Re: init rc5.d mechanism (Christoph Kukulies)
Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ?? (Philipp Maier)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (jordan4@nowhere)
Re: Problem with re-partitioning win98 drive (Andrew Williams)
resume download program ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in (Jeff Silverman)
rosa (Ian Mortimer)
Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in (Andrew
Williams)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Richard Steiner)
Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ?? (muzh)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: Console messages on virtual terminals
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 07:21:32 GMT
On Wed, 24 May 2000 01:05:13 GMT,
Jim Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can I change where/if console messages display? I have a RH 6.0
>system at work and console messages display on the currently active VT, my
>RH 6.1 system only seems to display messages on VT 1.
Check /etc/syslog.conf
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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing case of first letter in filename
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:18:53 +0200
Hi
You can use the commands mmv, mcp or mln. They can work with multiple
files and wildards.
Tom
apswartz wrote:
>
> I need help finding the appropriate command to change the case of the
> initial letter of multiple filenames...
> e.g. from sample.txt to Sample.txt
>
> In DOS I would have done something like...
> copy a* A*
>
> Linux commands cp mv ln don't work on multiple files unless the
> destination is a directory. I need the files to be in the same
> directory. Links are preferable.
>
> Help point me in the right direction.
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sccs in linux
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:09:26 +0100
Paul Kimoto wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt wrote:
> > Hi is there an SCCS in linux ?
> >
> > I know theres a cvs but I would like to use sccs
> > as the command ?
> >
> > ie sccs get <filename.c>
>
> The GNUish analogue to SCCS is RCS (not CVS, which is built on top of an
> RCS infrastructure).
>
> There used to be an effort to clone SCCS, called "CSSC", but I don't
> know what has come of it:
> http://www.free-lunch.demon.co.uk/CSSC/
>
Hi,
I seem to remember the author of CSSC telling everbody to use CVS as
although CSSC was a good clone of SCCS it (and sccs by implication) lack
a whole host of features which make version control work properly - if
you use CVS you won't want to go back to SCCS/CSSC.
I once worked on a fairly large project which spent several man-years
adding the 'threading' to sccs so that a 'release' of software can be
identified as whatever versions of the component files - basically the
same as cvs tag. Also the 'central repository for all code' was
implemented which again CVS can do.
You have to *really* want sccs - bear in mind that CVS is available for
most OS's (even windows) check out http://www.cyclic.com
So your command becomes
cvs get <module>
Is there a problem with that? ;-)
Regards
Phil Q
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Raw devices in Suse 6.4
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 07:21:11 GMT
I would like to use raw devices in Suse Linux 6.4.
I know that I have to link the raw device with the block device, as I
made in a Redhat 6.2: /usr/bin/raw /dev/raw/raw1 /dev/sda5.
My problem is that I don't have any clue how do the same in Suse 6.4.
Thank in advance for any help.
Nat
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Before you buy.
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From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ??
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:42:12 +0200
Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > Ho on earth can someone install software on a linux machine.....Do I
have to
> > use yast2..if yes, then how ? I use SuSE 6.4 the manual does not mention
a
> > word about it...
>
> 1. You have to use YaST, not Yast2. The manual does say something about
> it, a whole chapter, if I'm not totally mistaken!!
>
> 2. Installing SuSE Linux has never been so easy. SuSE 6.4 is
> definitively my favorite Linux distribution as most hardware is
> automatically recognized, it comes with plenty of software and the
> support database is great.
>
> Sorry, just had to get if off my chest... I felt I had to express my
> enthusiasm about the new SuSE after I upgraded my Linux system
> yesterday... :-))
>
> PM
Most of it is solved....Yast looks exactly the same as yast2 in my case.
There is no difference SuSE told me that yast has a commandline interface
instead of a GUI .
Software that i installed using yast2 .........where is it...?...the
software is not listed in the applicationlist
Rick
>
> --
>
> Sylt, SuSE Linux, Maerklin mini-club, Psion Serie 5mx Pro & GPS:
>
> http://www.philipp-maier.de
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: init rc5.d mechanism
Date: 24 May 2000 07:47:33 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : Although I dealt with SCO 11 years ago and sometimes with HP-UX
: : the SYSVisms in Linux are something I can't get acquainted with (working
: : with BSD systems preferably). Anyway, what is the magic behind these
: : K05innd, S25netfs (to pick some) in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d.
: Yeah, well, join the club for sysv init haters. I think slackware still
: uses a bsd style init. I certainly do.
: : It must be the brain of a Basic programmer having this worked out.
: : (the numbering scheme suggests that something would fit between
: : K50snmpd and K54pxe).
: : What do the letters K, S mean?
: Uh, S would be start. K kill?
...
: : Where is this documented?
: In the man page.
Uh, not so precise, please. man rc? man init? No.
: : I want to install a NIS client under RH 6.1.
: : Where do I know it would fit best inbetween ?
: It should come with its own drop-in rc files.
: : Where is NIS installation documented and provided in RH 6.1?
: I suppose in its manpages. Or in the documentation with the nis suite.
: Why would one need documentation for NIS anyway? Just start the
: ypclient after having set a yp domain name and pointed yp.conf at some
: server (and check securenets).
: These questions are not linux specific. So you should not
Well, they are linux distribution (RH) specific. Is there a NG
that is closer to RH issues? They have a nice web interface but
when it comes to support >/dev/null
: expect to look at linux in particular for the answers. Nevertheless,
: the NIS-HOWTO strikes me as the obvious starting point.
The NIS HOWTO is full of caveats that this and that
did not work with this and that libc. But it doesn't loose a word
on those drop in rc.d files nor does it say where the
NIS package can be found.
: Peter
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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ??
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:40:32 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dowe Keller wrote:
>
> On Tue, 23 May 2000 11:04:53 +0000, Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Rick wrote:
> >1. You have to use YaST, not Yast2. The manual does say something about
> >it, a whole chapter, if I'm not totally mistaken!!
>
> You do? How does SuSE keep users from installing software from
> tarballs?
Hmmm... I correct myself: If you want to install some of the software on
the SuSE CDs you have to use YaST. If you want to install a RPM
downloaded somewhere you also have to use YaST. If you want to install a
tarball, read the readme-file.
Hope the answer is now at least 99.87% correct...
PM
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http://www.philipp-maier.de
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From: jordan4@nowhere
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 24 May 2000 00:47:41 -0700
In article <8gftau$6s8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter says...
>
peter, your whole approach to this is an indicatiion that you
have seem to never have worked in a professional software
engineering company.
Find any well known software organization, and you will find
them using bug tracking system to help manage their software
process.
You can argue all you want, at the end of the day, a bug
tracking system is a well proven process to help produce
better software. Just becuase you do not understand it,
is an indication of your level of expeirence in software
engineering.
Engineering is all about processes. Well defined processes.
A bug tracking system is one process among many to help
produce a better software system.
Another is testing, and having a well developed test cases
and regression test system that is well documented and
automated as much as possible. This process is also very
much a sloppy process in Linux kernel.
There are many aspects to software engineering other than just
coding and shooting an email message to someone. Programmers
must start to learn to approach software development more
as as science and as an engineering practise.
I would care less if Linux ever gets a bug tracking system or
not. It will only hurt linux in the long term. If that is what
Linux kernel programmers want, so be it.
jo.
>In comp.os.linux.misc s@- wrote:
>: In article <8gfhoj$3dt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter says...
>:>In comp.os.linux.misc John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:>: How much sooner might those bugs have been fixed given a decent bug
>:>: tracking system?
>
>:>None for the interesting bugs. Report an interesting bug,
>
>: report? report?? How ?? That is the whole point of a bug tracking
>: system you moron, it is to HELP people know how to report bugs.
>
>Tut tut. Who are you?
>
>If you can't read the README in the kernel directory, or the BUG-HUNTING
>document in the Document subdirectory, you're ot up to reading the www
>page. And then there is the MAINTAINERS file.
>
>Now please go read the instructions ...
>
>: Not only that, there should be a defined way of what information
>: to report to help the developer. The bug tracking system
>
>Oh, there is, there is.
>
>: can ask for the correct information that might help the developer,
>: instead of sending email saying 'hello, kernel just hanged, why??'
>
>They will be shot.
>
>:>Boring bugs indeed will be forgotten.
>
>: The will be forgetten becuase there is no bug tracking system.
>
>No, they'll be forgotten because they're boring. Nobody's being paid to
>fix your boring bugs. You do it.
>
>: and no bug is boring. a bug is a bug. and how is to judge a
>: bug is 'boring' ?
>
>I have no trouble. Believe me. Busy developers have even less trouble.
>
>:>: with sound: sending anything to /dev/dsp hangs the SCSI driver. If there
>
>:>I believe that's known.
>
>: If there is a bug tracking system you do not have to guess. A user
>: can simply check, and find out right away.
>
>I'm not guessing. And no, they can't find out. Apparantly you're an
>idiot .. because you don't understand that a bug is not readily
>identifiable from a bug report. (I just checked debians list for
>a longstanding ifconfig/kernel bug that we have been working on with
>L-K, and its not clear if it has been identified previously or not - I
>think not, but the reports aren't clear enough to tell).
>
>If I really want to be sure I'll ask the author implicated.
>
>:>I've seen several threads go past on the scsi
>:>problem in 2.3.99 and above. Doug's working on it. Ask him!
>
>: who is Doug?? why would I care as user who is working on what? I simply
>: found a problem in Linux and I want to report it.
>
>Doug's the author and maintainer for the scsi driver you mentioned.
>Look at the source. There's his name and address. Look at the
>MAINTAINERS list, read linux-kernel ...
>
>:>EH? Why don't you mail the maintainer? That's debian practice too!
>
>: A bug tracking system will automatically do that for you. send automated
>: email to the developer(s) working on that part of the kernel.
>
>There's no need to. You can mail him directly. Cc the general kernel
>list or the more specific linux-scsi list.
>
>:>As you know, you might get Alan's interest on that one too. But 2.3.99
>:>has hundreds of bugs like that
>
>: Where is the list? without an official bug tracking system, this is
>: a very sloppy way of developing software.
>
>The list of things that WORK would be smaller! The big flap for the
>last 3 months has bee trying to get the memory balancing working enough
>to let people run dd. A slight exaggeration, but that's the gist.
>
>:> so it's not high priority yet. Make sure at least Doug knows about it.
>
>: Doug who?
>
>I'm sorry, my post was not addressed to you, as you can see from your
>quotes. I addressed John, who is a debian maintainer, and who
>knows who Doug is. Even if he didn't (which is very unlikely), he'd
>be able to find out, because he can read the MAINTAINERS file and the
>attributions in the source even if he couldn't avail himself of debians
>own bugtrack system which points back to the upstream maintainer.
>
>Are you honestly blind and deaf to the unending traffic on the kernel
>lists? I've received about a hundred mails in the last three hours.
>Possibly. What you are saying is that if you don't look, you don't see,
>AND that ordinary users don't know how to look, so they don't see. Your
>solution is an advertising gimmick - face it. It's a publicity stunt.
>
>Nobody would actually mind having a bugtrack system. It just wouldn't
>work. Communication via the lists and email is much faster and more
>effective. THere are very few people capable of detecting a kernel
>bug, and new bugs in stable releases are well below the communication
>saturation rate for the kerel developers forums. Say three a week.
>So the bottleneck that a bugtrack system seeks to resolve or impose
>just isn't relevant.
>
>If you think you have a bug, report it to the appropriate lists or to
>the maintainer. Most drivers have their own mail lists and web pages,
>but generic areas of the kernel also have their own lists (such as
>linux-mm and linux-fs and linux-scsi and ...). There's a linux system
>newsgroup nextdoor too! Linus reads that.
>
>Peter
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with re-partitioning win98 drive
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:27:16 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Partition Magic (versions 4 and 5) would fix your problem. I have version 4
and it runs fine from Win9x, but *only* from Win9x. The supposed alternative
of booting from a diskette does not work for me.
Sorry I can't offer a better answer to your original question. I generally
find that Win software (my older versions) has problems going above 8GB and
that is presumably what is causing you grief.
The other alternative is the standard M$ one - format and reinstall :-)
Emerick Rogul wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a new Win98 box from Gateway, and it has a 30GB disk
> setup with one FAT32 partition. I want to dual-boot this PC with
> Win98 and RH Linux. I tried to partition my drive with FIPS 2.0, but
> it complained that it didn't recognize my drive type (44h) and
> exited. I then downloaded Partition Resizer: it complained that my
> filesystem wasn't FAT (even though it is FAT32, which Partition
> Resizer claims to work with), and wouldn't allow me to resize it.
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to what's going on? Do I have some bizarre
> drive that these utilities can't recognize or is the disk just too
> big? I don't want to fork over the $$ for PartitionMagic (Assuming
> even _That_ will work) unless there's an alternative.
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
>
> -Emerick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: resume download program
Date: 24 May 2000 16:28:45 +0800
Any 'command-line program' which can ressume the file download in case the internet
link was lost ?
I tried 'wget -c' but it cannot work when the source is a http server ( instead of ftp
server ).
Thx 1st
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From: Jeff Silverman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in
Date: 24 May 2000 08:38:28 GMT
Hi.
Somebody tried to send my /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files from my server to their
account in
germany. I am not sure how they did that part, but they did. However, my hacker is
incompetent and
he botched his own e-mail address. Imagine my surprise and astonishment when I got my
own files in
the mail! I looked in the maillog and I can see where the messages went out. I
checked wtmp -
found nothing there, and nothing noteworthy in /var/log/*, either. The Email address
the guy used
is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if that means anything to anybody. I think
he's in germany because the remote mail daemon said:
>>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<<< 550 <kx2246>... User unknown or not available - Empfaenger unbekannt oder
nicht erreichbar
550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown
[ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]
Reporting-MTA: dns; angel.commercialventvac.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:24:07 -0700
Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx0.gmx.net
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <kx2246>... User unknown or not available -
Empfaenger unbekannt oder nicht erreichbar
Anyway, I am battening down my hatches, again. Fortunately, my users have picked
strong passwords,
such as 2sday and blue=danube, so using crack or satan probably won't buy this person
anything, and
I am going to personally change those passwords, just in case. Blech!
I thought you might want a "heads up" warning.
Jeff
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father etc.
See my website: http://www.commercialventvac.com/~jeffs
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From: Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rosa
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:39:35 +0000
Hi all,
Does anyone know if rosa (email prog) is available for Linux - I used to
use it on HP-UX and found it quite reliable.
Rgds,
Ian.
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:47:05 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gmx.net is a free mail service (like Hotmail) available in Germany, Austria and
Switzerland. It allows
web-based access and pop3 access (maybe more).
The German 'Empfaenger . . .' bit means the same as the English that precedes it -
unknown mail address.
Jeff Silverman wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Somebody tried to send my /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files from my server to their
>account in
> germany. I am not sure how they did that part, but they did. However, my hacker is
>incompetent and
> he botched his own e-mail address. Imagine my surprise and astonishment when I got
>my own files in
> the mail! I looked in the maillog and I can see where the messages went out. I
>checked wtmp - found
> nothing there, and nothing noteworthy in /var/log/*, either. The Email address the
>guy used is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] if that means anything to anybody. I think he's in germany because
>the remote mail
> daemon said:
>
> >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <<< 550 <kx2246>... User unknown or not available - Empfaenger unbekannt oder nicht
>erreichbar
> 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown
>
> [ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns; angel.commercialventvac.com
> Arrival-Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:24:07 -0700
>
> Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.1.1
> Remote-MTA: DNS; mx0.gmx.net
> Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <kx2246>... User unknown or not available -
> Empfaenger unbekannt oder nicht erreichbar
>
> Anyway, I am battening down my hatches, again. Fortunately, my users have picked
>strong passwords,
> such as 2sday and blue=danube, so using crack or satan probably won't buy this
>person anything, and I
> am going to personally change those passwords, just in case. Blech!
>
> I thought you might want a "heads up" warning.
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Silverman, PC guy, Linux wannabe, Java wannabe, Software engineer, husband,
>father etc.
> See my website: http://www.commercialventvac.com/~jeffs
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 24 May 2000 08:40:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc jordan4@nowhere wrote:
: In article <8gftau$6s8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter says...
:>
: peter, your whole approach to this is an indicatiion that you
: have seem to never have worked in a professional software
: engineering company.
I should hope not! On the other hand, I have worked WITH a professional
SE company many a time. You will find my code in use worldwide. Hey,
it's holding up the southern europe interbanking system!
: Find any well known software organization, and you will find
: them using bug tracking system to help manage their software
: process.
Uh, no you won't. I can guarantee you that 90% of all SE companies
haven't heard of sccs, rcs, cvs or a mountain of other project
management software. Where do you get your stuffy view of the world
from? Are you working for some team of electricians?
: You can argue all you want, at the end of the day, a bug
: tracking system is a well proven process to help produce
: better software. Just becuase you do not understand it,
Tell me, do you use bugtracking for your own personal software projects?
How many do you have, anyway?
: is an indication of your level of expeirence in software
: engineering.
:-).
Oh, I see. And what is your view on the lack of a formal specification
for any of this. How are you proposing that people do all this
development without even the slightest idea ofithout any way of knowing
if they are doing iit right? ANd how can they test it if they don't know
what it is supposed to do?
: Engineering is all about processes. Well defined processes.
Oh, it's a little bit about processes. Unfortunately
for you, building a kernel is not yet a standard engineering process.
Processes produce products not innovations. The kernel is evolving
towards a product and a process, but its not anywhere near a canned
product yet. It's built by hand, even the assembler is sometimes
written by humans.
: A bug tracking system is one process among many to help
: produce a better software system.
Only if you don't already have something better.
: Another is testing, and having a well developed test cases
: and regression test system that is well documented and
: automated as much as possible. This process is also very
: much a sloppy process in Linux kernel.
I'll stop laughing soon.
Nobody will mind if you set up a bugtrack system. Sure, collect bug
reports and forward them to the maintainer. Please do. Have you worked
out by now that your system amounts to "mail the maintainer"?
: There are many aspects to software engineering other than just
: coding and shooting an email message to someone. Programmers
: must start to learn to approach software development more
: as as science and as an engineering practise.
: I would care less if Linux ever gets a bug tracking system or
Would or couldn't? The sentence doesn't make sense.
: not. It will only hurt linux in the long term. If that is what
: Linux kernel programmers want, so be it.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 03:36:30 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>Rich Steiner writes:
>
>> The current system seems to work well.
>
>How do you know? How many useful bug reports are not being filed?
The real measure is how well the software is working, IMO, and I think
the kernel in general does very well given its "release early release
often" methodology.
In any case, it certainly can't hurt to suggest a bug-tracking package
if you know of one that might be useful. But I would suggest tracking
down the appropriate kernel mailing list and making the suggestion
there, not here. This is a general newsgroup mainly for end-users.
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-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
In the words of the car dealers, "they all do that".
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ??
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:08:21 +1200
Philipp Maier wrote:
>
> Dowe Keller wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 23 May 2000 11:04:53 +0000, Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Rick wrote:
> > >1. You have to use YaST, not Yast2. The manual does say something about
> > >it, a whole chapter, if I'm not totally mistaken!!
> >
> > You do? How does SuSE keep users from installing software from
> > tarballs?
>
> Hmmm... I correct myself: If you want to install some of the software on
> the SuSE CDs you have to use YaST. If you want to install a RPM
> downloaded somewhere you also have to use YaST. If you want to install a
> tarball, read the readme-file.
>
> Hope the answer is now at least 99.87% correct...
>
> PM
> --
>
> Sylt, SuSE Linux, Maerklin mini-club, Psion Serie 5mx Pro & GPS:
>
> http://www.philipp-maier.de
Actually, you don't "have" to use Yast. Using rpm -(options) (file).rpm
will also work, or one of the package managers (kpackage) etc
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