Linux-Misc Digest #599, Volume #19               Thu, 25 Mar 99 13:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Deleting files accross directories ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ess1869 sound issue (Hans Wolters)
  Re: Linux Emulator for Windows? (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Linux-supported hardware (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Database library for C++ Linux (gcc) ("No Spam")
  Re: What is the best Linux to install? (Curt Steger)
  Re: can't read mail from netscape (Tommy Willoughby)
  Free Linux TUX Stickers (corrected url) (Matthew Hoskins)
  Re: 2.2.3 doesn't like my HDD (Chris Wilson)
  Re: Why Does Mail Break after adding a new Mail user ? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Auto dial-ISP and auto-FTP download (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the  Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? (max)
  Re: Deleting files accross directories (Julius Longauer)
  Re: How to get X to use modem (Don)
  Re: xcdroast - library problem... (Jukka-Pekka Suominen)
  Re: multi-boot machine ("Shane Y. Gibson")
  Redhat 5.9:  Dogfood Ho! (Dan Kaminsky)
  fs msdos not supported since -> 2.0.34 (Surfer Netzbetrieb)
  Re: using telnet instead of login for terminals (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Modem PCI intern & PPP (Andrew Comech)
  align ("Hugo Monta�o")
  Re: Red Hat 5.2 + MS Proxy (Simon Tooke)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Deleting files accross directories
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:09:29 GMT

I have a question for you unix guru's out there!

  I copied a directory structure from a cdrom to my hard drive.  In each
directory there is a TRANS.TBL file.  I want to be able to delete them all
from the command line with a single piped command.  Or two if need be.

I have done a "   find . -name 'TRANS.TBL' " and tried to pipe it to rm and it
doesnt' work.  I have created a list with find and tried to pipe it to rm and
that doesn't work either.

Thanks in advance,
Steve


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: ess1869 sound issue
Date: 25 Mar 1999 10:18:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:43:07 +1000, Gavin Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 found a keyboard and composed the following intresting message:
>I'm having trouble with my ess1869 ISA sound card in Red Hat 5.2.  When the
>box boots, messages appear to the screen saying that the device or resource
>is busy.  Can anyone help?  Is the card partly faulty?
>
>thanks
>
>gavin

Hi Gavin,

Check out the CMI-howto (see signature). It should work for your card.

Regards Hans

-- 
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http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Linux Emulator for Windows?
Date: 25 Mar 1999 09:24:42 GMT

On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:38:49 -0500, Steve D. Perkins wrote:
>    This might sound like a really dumb question (and might earn a few
>flame replies!)... but does anyone know of any good (freeware or
>commercial) Linux emulators for MSWindows?  I'm stuck having to use NT
>at work... 

Is there any way you can get a linux box onto your company network ? (
even have two boxes in your office and hook them up via an ethernet hub
or something ... ? ) You could possibly just get an X-server on your NT
box, and hook it up to the linux box. I recently put my "old" Pentium
133 linux box onto the campus network, and now I can use it from
anywhere since all the PeeCees on campus have PC-Xware installed. It's
awfully nice. 

-- 
Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Web designer for Independence -- Linux for the Masses
http://www.independence.seul.org/ 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux-supported hardware
Date: 25 Mar 1999 09:19:27 GMT

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:45:52 -0500, Rufus V. Smith wrote:

>But it's hard to know between ARM, AMS, Compaq, Dell, IBM, etc...
>which one will support (completely) Linux, Windows NT, DOS, Windows 98

Answer: none of the above vendors support linux. IBM are slightly less
linux hostile than the other guys. 

If you're in the market for a laptop , INSIST on getting linux
preloaded. I have a friend who got a machine with the intent of running
linux, and to make a long story short, he purchased from a windoze shop
(he'd heard that this model worked well under linux ) and wasted a lot
of sweat getting semi or unsupported hardware (ethernet card ) to work.
His laptop was stolen before he got the ethernet card working. He
replaced it with one purchased from SWT, and it was up and running out
of the box.  There are a few shops who will sell you a linux laptop at a
reasonable price.

Linux hardware solutions:       http://www.linux-hw.com
SW Technology:                  http://www.swt.com

You can surf around http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/products.html#systems to
look for more, but I think those two are the only ones that have
reasonable prices ( VAResearch are OK, but very expensive ) 

-- 
Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Web designer for Independence -- Linux for the Masses
http://www.independence.seul.org/ 

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From: "No Spam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.progress,comp.programming
Subject: Database library for C++ Linux (gcc)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:59:06 GMT

I am looking for a database library for C++ for linux. I am also looking for
advice on a book for C++ that is specific to Linux. I have a good background
of C++, I have taken a 3months course in C++, but I need a book that goes a
little bit further. I am required to do a database program for Linux using
C++ (has to be C++).

I was also wondering if it is possible to write a C++ program that would
make use of x-window features.

I am still a sort of making my first steps in the field, so please feel free
to correct me if I am wrong.

Please email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Please remove nospam)



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From: Curt Steger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:09:25 GMT

Just put SuEe 6.0 on one of my AMD K6-2 400 Mhz machines at home and does
it scream! This little puppy puts skid marks on my desk... No problem with
256M of ram either...

It did not, however, like the Adaptec 2930U2 SCSI card.....

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   David Corn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > George Csahanin wrote:
> > >
> SuSe6.0 :))
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:14:39 -0800
From: Tommy Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't read mail from netscape

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I installed pine 4.1 on a Slackware 3.1 machine with a 2.0.30 kernel.  I
> uninstalled it because by default it move your mail from /var/spool/mail and
> it seems to have lost all of my old read mail.  However since then I have
> been unable to get my mail via netscape.  Netscape complains that the mail
> directory is already being read when no-one else is reading the file.  What
> could cause this and how can I correct it ?

I'd look aroound to see if Netscape is finding a lock file somewhere and
thinking that means the dir is busy. Perhaps in /var/lock?

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From: Matthew Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Free Linux TUX Stickers (corrected url)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:11:08 -0500

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From: Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: 2.2.3 doesn't like my HDD
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:34:01 +0000

Rob Fisher wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else had major disk problems with the 2.2.3 kernel? I
> overhauled my system, moving from libc5 to glibc and  reorganizing my
> partitions to make better use of space. With a precompiled 2.0.29
> kernel, everything is fine, but when I moved back up to 2.2.3,
> everything turned ugly.
[snip]

Is 2.2.x configured to use DMA by default on the hard drives (new option
to 2.2.x)? Ths may account for the drives being uncooperative.
-- 
   Chris Wilson - spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How's Dougal? Linux 2.2.2-ac7
  5:06pm  up 13 days,  3:26,  8 users,  load average: 2.31, 2.18, 2.06
             C gives you enough rope to hang yourself. 
         C++ also gives you the tree object to tie it to.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Why Does Mail Break after adding a new Mail user ?
Date: 25 Mar 1999 17:34:30 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Kim Knoblauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>/var/spool/ mail is mail mail , perm list is drw-rw----

The permissions for /var/spool/mail should be drwxrwxrwt
The users must have permission to read their own mail and to remove the
mail from the spool file after it has been read. The t is there to make
sure that only the owner of the file can actually remove it.

chmod a+rwxt /var/spool/mail

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Auto dial-ISP and auto-FTP download
Date: 25 Mar 1999 17:38:27 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


>I'm failry a new Linux user. I have basically set my config the way I
>wanted it. I then get to download lots of linux apps, but I  I want to
>FTP-download the files at a scheduled time. I know I need cron, pppd,
>and ftp. But is there a way to login and download from an ftp server if
>and only if a dial-up connection was successful?


Probably many ways. One off the top of my head, into
/etc/ppp/ip-up.local, put
touch /tmp/ppp-is-up
and in /etc/ppp/ip-down.local put
rm /tmp/ppp-is-up

Then have your script check for the existence of the file 
/tmp/ppp-is-up
(This clearly is not foolproof, but would probably usually work)


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From: max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the  
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:40:49 -0500

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, William Wueppelmann wrote:
>Generally, unless you don't plan to use your computer for a long time, it's
>probably a good idea to leave the system on.  I shut mine down if I'm going to
>be away for a few days, but that's about it.

So does this mean you have a screen saver running all night, every night? Or
does your machine turn itself to "sleep" mode? Wouldn't the screen saver
processing take a lot of electricity over a long period of time?

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From: Julius Longauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deleting files accross directories
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:19:26 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> 
> I have a question for you unix guru's out there!
> 
>   I copied a directory structure from a cdrom to my hard drive.  In each
> directory there is a TRANS.TBL file.  I want to be able to delete them all
> from the command line with a single piped command.  Or two if need be.
> 
> I have done a "   find . -name 'TRANS.TBL' " and tried to pipe it to rm and it
> doesnt' work.  I have created a list with find and tried to pipe it to rm and
> that doesn't work either.
> 
find . -name TRANS.TBL -exec rm {} \;<enter>

Julius

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From: Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to get X to use modem
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:21:25 GMT

When you get a new one, try to get one that has jumpers so you can
disable pnp and set a fixed com and irq. The isapnptools theoretically
will program a pnp card, but be advised that it does not always work for
every setup.

Don


Christian D Freet wrote:
> 
> I think I am SOL, because when I built this computer, I got one of
> those Viking modems, without knowing it's controllerles... that will
> soon change, though.....
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:13:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
> wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:54:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian D Freet)
> >wrote:
> >
> >[snip]
> >>Now, I need help with the modem.  I have a somewhat standard ISA
> >>modem...  I don't know how to get X (or Linux in general) to use it...
> >>I tried using the modem dialer in X, but when querying the modem, it
> >>wasn't found.
> >
> >"It wasn't found"? How do you mean?
> >
> >Is it a "WinModem" (aka HSC or "controllerless" modem)? If so, you're
> >SOL, 'cause the only drivers available for WinModems are Microsoft
> >Win32API drivers and aren't useable on Linux.
> >
> >Is it Plug-n-Play? If so, you'll probably have to play with the
> >pnptools (and perhaps setserial) in order to make the modem work.
> >
> >
> >Lew Pitcher
> >System Consultant, Development Services
> >Toronto Dominion Bank
> >
> >(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')

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From: Jukka-Pekka Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xcdroast - library problem...
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:49:07 +0200

On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Chad A. Storm wrote:

> [root@neptune cstorm]# xcdroast
> xcdroast: error in loading shared libraries
> /usr/lib/libtcl8.0.so: undefined symbol: stat

Yes... I had the same problem with xcdroast, and some other apps that 
needed the tcl libraries, but the problem was solved by downloading new 
versions of the aforementioned libraries. I can't recall where I 
downloaded them from, but you should have no problems in finding them...

Try it, it should work...

JP

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From: "Shane Y. Gibson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: multi-boot machine
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:43:41 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I installed NT first on a FAT partition and it takes up 1GB. I left the
> remaining 1GB unformated. I then installed Solaris on the unformatted 1GB
> partition. The Solaris installation picked up the unformatted partition
> without any problems.

I second this.  I've found that you ALWAYS have to install
M$ products first.  Leave space for other OSs.  Then, after
you've installed NT (95/98, etc...), install your Unix
OS's.  

In this order, I've never had a problem.  I have tried a
couple of times to do it the other way around, and never
was successful.  M$ just doesn't want to play nice with
other OS's.

v/r
Shane

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From: Dan Kaminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 5.9:  Dogfood Ho!
Date: 22 Mar 1999 13:40:37 GMT

This is a *very* early look at a *somewhat* beta version of Redhat
6.0 from a *very* tired person.  But I thought one or two of you might be
interested.

I installed Redhat 5.9 tonight, and I have a few observations to be made:

1)  Last I checked, Disk Druid doesn't let you resize a Fat32 Partition.
I don't care what RedHat has to do, but some functionality of Partition
Magic has to come *in the box* if not from the net to allow users to not
need to format their hard drives to install Linux.  Coexistence is
meaningless if you have to be an expert user to pull it off.

2)  Floppy Dependance?  I suppose I must be clueless here--is there a way
to boot a floppy image from a DOS command line?  If so, this *needs* to be
the default mechanism for installing RedHat 5.9.  Floppies are, shall we
say, embarassingly unstable.  You'll hear more about this from me another
time, but lets just say I spent HOURS trying to find a floppy without any
bad sectors.  The only thing that's worse than this is the number of 10+
page papers I've seen students lose because their only copy of a file was
on a floppy disk.

Don't copy that floppy?!?!  Boy, now there's a great slogan...

3)  The initial screen needs to be rewritten.  It's something like "If you
want to install or upgrade a version of Redhat 2.0, press enter."
Grammatically unclear, always has been--seems like it's asking if you want
to install version 2.0, and most users aren't trying to do that.  Tiny
point.

        This is the first screen users see of Linux.  It really needs to
be beautified.  I call for the Tux de FBCon :-)

4)  Wow, I liked the new and improved auto detection routines.  Easily
found my SCSI chipset and my Ethernet card, with no work.  The bootnet.img
floppy is also very very nice.  Good show, Redhat.  It would be nice if
there was a telnet/nc app on this disk for quickly changing the settings
of a remote machine that's serving the file though.

5)  Minimal fault tolerance if you're running a FTP server that doesn't
support passive mode.  (The SRP-enabled server by Stanford doesn't.)  
It'll warn you once, you'll ask to retry, then
it'll just...shut down.  Ouch, I lost around 20 minutes of package
selection because of this.  I ended up just choosing "Everything" and
unselecting the howto languages I don't speak.  (Sorry, I don't have a
need for the croation version of the howto's :-)

6)  A "back" option on every install menu would be Good.

7)  This whole text install thing is really really ugly.  I don't care if
we use SVGALib; Text Is Dead.  About as unsexy as you can get.

8)  While selecting packages(or while selecting which packages to set to
autoboot), F1 gives detailed information.  This is EXCEEDINGLY nice, I
loved it!  A clarification between whether users should load amd or autofs
would be nice, though.

9)  I have an Intel i740.  Redhat 5.9 does not support the Intel i740.  So
I choose Unknown Card and pick some options.  Now I'm verifying settings
in ***320x200***.  Worse, I manage to get Gnome to boot up later and *IT*
is in that horrid resolution.  If I was a normal user, I'd just reset my
system and probably fsck my hard drive up badly in the process.

One cannot engineer merely for the successful case--one must also engineer
for failure.  It is *critical* that unknown cards be handled well, because
they're going to exist without a doubt.  In six months, it is likely that
most computers being sold will have chipsets that didn't exist at the time
Redhat was released.

The best I ever got out of the i740 was 16 colors at 640x480, which
Netscape decided to trip out on.  This was quite entertaining.

Before you ask, the XBF i740 drivers do not function under Redhat 5.9.
"Wrong architecture", they say.

10)  RPM was utterly borked--this wasn't good!  Apparently, there's some
dependancy on a /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc file existing--guess what, there wasn't
even a /usr/lib/rpm.  I made the directory and touched the file, and rpm
seemed to execute after that.

11)  Heh, where's VNC?  I use VNC more than...well, almost anything.
Definite A-List software.  I just realized how shocking it is that it
comes with almost none of the distributions.


On the plus side, networking "just worked" through the IP Masq I have
running on the the production box, so that's a nice thing.  Overall, well,
I hope by the time I wake up there's a i740 driver for this puppy released
so I can actually get to work using this system.  If not, well, I'll think
of something.

Yours Truly,

        Dan Kaminsky
        DoxPara Research
        http://doxpara.netpedia.net


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From: Surfer Netzbetrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fs msdos not supported since -> 2.0.34
Date: 25 Mar 1999 17:23:21 GMT

Hello,

my kernel do no longer support msdos fs since upgrade 2.0.33 -> 2.0.34.
I think I'm too stupid to find the option in the kernel configuration
menue  (I use make menuconfig).

Can somebody tell me where I can enable msdos fs support ? (It's not in
section fs-support in menuconfig !!)

thank you
Ekkard Gerlach




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: using telnet instead of login for terminals
Date: 25 Mar 1999 17:41:48 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Stephen M. Waite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I would like to use telnet instead of login for my serial connections.

>I assumed that I could replace login with telnet in inittab.
>Unfortunately this did not work.

??? They perform totally different functions! telnet uses login to
actually log in. login logs the person in (gets the name, password,
checks the password, starts reading the intialisation files, etc) telnet
is a protocol to set up communication between two machines via the TCPIP
protocol. It gets the two machines actually talking to each other, and
then hands control over to login to do its job.
What is it you actually want to accomplish?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: Modem PCI intern & PPP
Date: 24 Mar 1999 16:26:19 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M. Buchenrieder wrote:
>c&c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>Hello !!
>>I cannot initialize a ppp connection with my modem. PPPD is unable to
>>find it, or find it busy ? Can anybody help me ?
>
>PCI modem is almost always a synonym for WinModem. There are only
>2 PCI hardware modems that might work in Linux (at least, following
>the manufacturer's statmenets) .
 
There were no success stories so far...

>Chances are good (or bad) that you
>don't have one of these and will have to go out shopping for a good
>real hardware modem (buy an external model) .
 
Or an internal which is not a winmodem; for the list of vendors, see
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
and expect to pay about $50 (including shipping).

Cheese,
Andrew


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From: "Hugo Monta�o" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: align
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:51:51 -0400

   i�m really sorry, i was wrong



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Tooke)
Subject: Re: Red Hat 5.2 + MS Proxy
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:31:31 GMT

Jeffrey L Straszheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> <name of original poster lost>
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >>I have MS Proxy Server installed on Windows NT,
> >
> >
> >>wondering if anyone had any ideas on how I can get the Internet on my
> >>linux box

There's a socks server at http://www.socks.nec.com/ that comes
with source to sockified ftp, telnet, etc.  

-Simon Tooke


--
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My opinions do not reflect those of my employer.
Work 416-448-3535

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