Linux-Misc Digest #599, Volume #21               Mon, 30 Aug 99 12:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... (Stuart Hall)
  Re: Is this a Mandrake 6.0 bug? (Tom Fawcett)
  Re: --> KDE/GNOME Default Login Preference ? ("Frode Bjerke")
  Re: Kernel Panic: and I Panic too  ( endgame). ("Gabriel")
  Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Hardware Compatibility Questions ("Gilbert Groehn")
  Re: is there a HOWTO about upgrading a Linux kernel? (Jeff Fox)
  Re: why not C++? ("Bill Zimmerly")
  cosource.com - Linux Networking for Dummies - Find out how to configure net 
services! ("Byron MIller")
  Oracle 8.i on linux (SUSE 6.2) - unresolved symbol ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Getting Error Messages on Boot (Virginia Wills)
  Re: permissions (Stephan Houben)
  Re: How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can  mount 
cd-roms and floppy drives? (Rod Smith)
  Re: why not C++? (Don Waugaman)
  Re: USR modem won't use COM 2 (Ron Gibson)
  Re: Had it with RH6 (Warren Bell)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Hall)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron...
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:59:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:54:29 GMT, Greg Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
so kindly spent valuable time writing:

>I don't know if you've already asked and got some replies, but the first
>thing to check is whether or not CPU EXTERNAL CACHE is enabled or
>disabled in the BIOS.  If it's disabled, that could cause CPU
>misdetection.  I can't think of anything else off hand that would even
>have a chance of causing it, but I promise to think on it again when I'm
>awake.
>       Greg

Even though I am not at my home computer right now, this rings a bell.
Either I have compiled my kernel without CPU External Cache enabled,
or my Bios has it disabled.  I know why I would have done that too --
I thought the on-board cache meant that I didn't have a second chip
added to the motherboard, therefore it is "internal".  I guess I must
have been incorrect in that thinking.

I'll try enabling external (perhaps also called "secondary") cache
tonight.

Stuart





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Stuart Hall
Cheshire, Connecticut, USA
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is this a Mandrake 6.0 bug?
Date: 30 Aug 1999 07:59:02 -0400

Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm getting this message from cron.weekly:
> 
> bzcat: Input file ./fetchmailconf.1.bz2 doesn't exist, skipping.
> bzcat: Input file ./ghostscript.1.bz2 doesn't exist, skipping.
> bzcat: ./ksh.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file, skipping.
> bzcat: Input file ./pdksh.1.bz2 doesn't exist, skipping.
> bzcat: ./rdist.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file, skipping.
> bzcat: ./statserial.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file, skipping.
[etc]
> I even reinstalled and get the same thing.  Anyone else with mandrake
> get this?  

This is coming from /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis.cron, which is running
makewhatis, which examines man pages and assumes that anything ending in
.bz2 is a valid bzip2 file.  Yes, those are Mandrake bugs (or Red Hat's).

> Does anyone know how to fix this?

find /usr/man -type f -name "*.bz2" ! -exec bunzip2 -t {} \; -print > broken

Then do whatever you want with the files in broken.  I just deleted them:
rm `cat broken`

-Tom

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From: "Frode Bjerke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: --> KDE/GNOME Default Login Preference ?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:58:30 +0200

Another way is to create a file "/etc/sysconfig/desktop" containing only
"KDE".  This file is read by the Xclients-script in the "/etc/X11/xinit"
directory.

It works for my RedHat 6, anyway.

Regards
Frode
Oslo, Norway

Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Unrot13 this;
> Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to vultan ;
>
> Type "usekde" at a shell prompt.  Quite x and restart if the shell was
> an x shell.  Works here anyway.
>
> > Any idea on how to change the default login from Gnome to KDE ?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Peter
>
<snip>



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: and I Panic too  ( endgame).
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:45:08 -0400 (EDT)


Thanks for al your advice and comments. I solved the
problem, but what happened is still a mystery.  Here is
what I did. 
first. I backed up all files on my /boot partition to a
directory on / , formatted /boot and restored. it didn't
help.
Then, I cleared an unused partition, sdb8, and reinstalled
RedHat 6.0 with the same /boot on /dev/sda5 but with / on
sdb8 ( and LILO on sda5). 
Lo and Behold: LILO works again. Now I change the new
lilo.conf on sdb8 to root=/dev/sda6 and reboot with my old
installation. Then  I restore /boot 
from my previous backup and run lilo ( now on the old
lilo.conf). And there I am, finally everything works as
before. 

But, I still don't know what happened. since my / has not
been touched by the re-installation, and all the files on
/boot have been restored and are now the same as before.
the only thing that changed seems to be the boot sector of
/boot, which should have been completely rewritten by every
rerun of /sbin/lilo. 
Comparing /sbin/lilo  output before and after the reinstall
I think the/a problem was with a wrong HD bios id, 0x80
instead of 0x81. I could have perhaps corrected it with a
bios statement in lilo.conf, but the mystery remains. The
SCSI bios clearly gives the right HD id. Why did the change
in the partition table cause LILO to start misreading it?
Why did the reinstallation correct it ( given that all
files are the same as before)?

Gabriel 
 

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:14:38 -0500, Leonard Evens wrote:

>Gabriel wrote:
>> 
>> On 28 Aug 99 08:17:11 GMT, W.G. Unruh wrote:
>> 
>> >"Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> >>Trying to cure that, I used a rescue disc to boot, mounted
>> >>my
>> >>root partition ( which seems completely OK) and changed all
>> >
>> >>instances of sda6 to sda7 in etc/fstab , etc/lilo.conf and
>> ( that was a typo in the post, actually I changed sda7 to
>> sda6)
>> >>etc/mtab
>> >>( the last  one is probably superfluous--so be it.)
>> >
>> >Then while still booted with your rescue disk, you need to run lilo and
>> >tell it to use the altered lilo.conf. So when you had the rescue disk
>> >booted, the sd6 partition mounted say as /rescue, you run
>> >/sbin/lilo -C /rescue/etc/lilo.conf
>> 
>> more trials and defeats:
>> through the rescue disk I booted directly to my root
>> partition ( /dev/sda6).
>> went ok, finaly saw my standard installation.
>> then I did lilo -C /etc/lilo.conf.
>> tried to boot -- got error 0x01
>> rebooted through the rescue disk and found out that I
>> forgot to update the boot= in lilo.conf.
>> so I changed boot=/dev/sda6 to dev/sda5 (my boot
>> partition)
>
>You are still confused.  You don't want to put the lilo boot
>loader in a logical partition.  It won't work.   The usual
>situation either for a Windows/Linux dual boot or Linux
>only system is to put it in the master boot record.  Thus
>the first line should read
>boot=/dev/sda
>If for some reason you don't want it in the master boot
>record, you can put it in an extended partition, probably
>/dev/sda2 which I would guess holds your logical partitions.
>But then you also have to use fdisk to make this the
>active partition.
>
>> try boot -- got LI  (which means something about secondary
>> loading being stuck ?!)
>> rebooted from rescue, "rdev " shows " /dev/sda6 / " which
>> is correct.
>> but "rdev /boot/vmlinuz" (the proper kernel on sda5) shows
>> the old and wrong /dev/sda7.
>> so I run "rdev /boot/vmlinuz /dev/sda6".
>> now "rdev /boot/vmlinuz" shows correctly "Root Device
>> /dev/sda6".
>
>rdev is beside the point.  If you were booting the kernel
>directly, it would be relevant, but if you use the lilo
>boot loader and include the line
>root=/dev/sda6
>in the linux section of /etc/lilo.conf, then that tells
>the booted kernel where the root file system is.  I suppose
>that if you left the root=/dev/sda6 line out and had rdev
>set correctly that might also work, but it is foolish to
>depend on that since you would have to fix it every time
>you upgraded.
>
>> but the boot still get stack in LI.
>> I reboot from rescue and rerun lilo as before.
>> still stuck at LI.
>> 
>> What should I do.
>
>Follow my advice
>
>> 
>> --------------------
>> Gabriel
>> Thanks for reading and replying
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> =======================================================
>> Gabriel
>
>-- 
>
>Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
>Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

=======================================================
Gabriel





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From: "Gilbert Groehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Hardware Compatibility Questions
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:46:58 -0400

I installed a 3Com USR 56K V90 modem in myCaldera 2.2
Linuzx box and had to manually set the COM and IRQ settings.

I used Lisa --modem to configure the modem and LISA only gives
you three presets (eg. com2, com3, com4 , if I recall correctly.).

The modem came with all of the jumpers floating (eg. not connected)
which is the setup for plug and play.   If you are using Caldera it might
be much easier to manually configure the modem rather than try to do
it with software switches.

Cordially,
Gil Groehn

Jorge Padron wrote in message <7q7irj$qfo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>*** NEWBIE: No experience with Linux whatsoever ***
>
>I'm planning to purchase Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 to install it on my home
>computer. I currently run Windows 98SE (quite ~unstable~ I most say) and I
>have an old hard drive that I made available to give Linux a try -- I am
>planiing to dual boot Windows 98SE and Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 >>>>> IS THIS
>POSSIBLE? <<<<<<<<
>
>The problem I have is that I'm not sure if my hardware is going to be
>compatible with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 -- here's the list of stuff I have in
>my system. Would anybody please let me know whether this is going to work
at
>all?
>
>+ ABUT BH6 motherboard with Intel Celeron 300Mhz
>
>+ 128MB 100Mhz RAM
>
>+ Two Maxtor IDE hard drives: Windows 98SE will stay on the first hard
drive
>and I'll install OpenLinux 2.2 on the second drive.
>
>+ Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM
>
>+ Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8MB video card
>
>+ No network card
>
>+ 3COM USR Courier V.Everything internal modem (I'm using the default
>settings: are the default settings Plug and Play? Will this work or do I
>need to manually set the IRQ, COM port, etc.?)
>
>+ Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value sound card (I'm using the default
>settings: are the default settings Plug and Play? Will this work or do I
>need to manually set the IRQ, etc.?)
>
>
>My main problem is that all my devices (video, sound, modem) are using the
>default settings the way they come out-of-the-box, which I believe are in
>"plug-and-play" mode. Can I just go ahead and install Caldera OpenLinux 2.2
>like that without doing anyhting and expect everything to work fine,
>including my modem and sound?  Or should instead open my computer case and
>and manually set all IRQ, COM ports, etc?  I would very much prefer -not-
to
>have to touch anything inside my computer if at all possible.
>
>Thank you in advance for your input,
>
>J. Padron
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>--
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: is there a HOWTO about upgrading a Linux kernel?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:57:01 GMT

On 29 Aug 1999 21:44:31 -0700, steve@nospam wrote:

>hi.
>any one knows HOWTO upgrade my running system from one Linux kernel to
>another? how do I overwrite exisitng kernel and use the new one? do
>I just build the new one and overwrite /boot/vmlinuz with it? what
>about existing /usr/src/linux? and what about the libraries etc..? are these
>affected?
>
>thank you.
>steve
>

Try this URL. I've found it very useful
http://howto.linuxberg.com/LinuxGuide/index.html


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From: "Bill Zimmerly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:02:38 -0500

Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [Snip]
> > Aren't we getting close the realms of forth now?
>
> Doesn't look like it... Remember, in forth, all the values are push onto
the
> stack and only popped off when evaluated, so the above would be more like
>
> z c * b y * a x * + + .
>
> The '.' popping Top Of Stack and printing it to screen.
> (can't remember the syntax for stuffing the TOS into a variable... I
haven't
> dabbled in forth for years)

z c * b y * a x * + + result !
                                ^^^^^^^

Here's how.

- Bill




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From: "Byron MIller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cosource.com - Linux Networking for Dummies - Find out how to configure net 
services!
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:44:28 -0400

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Oracle 8.i on linux (SUSE 6.2) - unresolved symbol
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:47:18 GMT

I'm getting:

sqlplus: error in loading shared libraries:
/home/oracle/product/8.1.5./lib/libclntsh.so.8.0: undefined symbol:
nauzaoss

I installed Oracle 8.i on a fresh install of SUSE 6.2 (glibc 2.1) and
the install of Oracle went fine.  The svrmgrl program works but SQL*Plus
(and I suspect other Oracle modules) is reporting the above error.

I re-installed just the client networking and utilities piece of Oracle,
hoping that a re-link would help, but the problem persists.


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From: Virginia Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting Error Messages on Boot
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:48:43 GMT

I downloaded the new kernel-2.2.11-4. It installed with no problems. On
boot up I am getting the following error messages. Need to know how to
solve them.

/etc/rc.d/rc sysinit cat: command not found
/etc/rc.d/S10network cat: command not found
/etc/rc.d/S10network [:0: unary operator expected

Logged in as user. Went to fm as super user after entered password got
the following error messages:

QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket specified
QSocketNotifier: Internal error

I am on a stand-a-lone computer. Only network connected to is ISP.

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: permissions
Date: 30 Aug 1999 16:12:45 +0200

Donato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can
> mount cd-roms and floppy drives?

Add the `user' option in the 4th column in the /etc/fstab file.

Read `man fstab' for more info.

Stephan

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can  
mount cd-roms and floppy drives?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:18:57 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Donato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[Nothing at all.  I assume the title is intended to be the question.  I'll
add that such a practice is risky, since subject lines sometimes get
truncated or corrupted, often in amusing ways, as in an ad I once saw for
a position as a professor in a psychology department: "WANTED: Adult
Psychopath". So, here's the subject header:]

: How can the root give permissions to the other users, so that they can 
: mount cd-roms and floppy drives?

Don't try it that way.  Instead, add the "user" parameter to the entries
in your /etc/fstab file.  For instance, here's my /etc/fstab file entry
for my floppy device:

/dev/fd0                  /mnt/floppy               auto   noauto,user 0 0

The "auto" bit tells the system to auto-detect the filesystem type, the
"noauto" bit specifies that the floppy is NOT to be mounted at system boot
time, and the "user" bit says that ordinary users can mount the floppy
device by typing "mount /mnt/floppy".

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Waugaman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: 30 Aug 1999 07:48:28 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Waugaman) wrote:
>>>My point was that he's added even more pointless and obscure things to C++
>>>such as reference variables. What the hells the point of those when you
>>>already have pointers?

>>References are extremely important for use with operator overloading
>>and templates.  I'll moan about operator overloading later; the use of
>>templates and generic programming is quite possibly the most powerful
>>and farthest-reaching use of the C++ language, and the absence of
>>reference variables would weaken templates to the point of near-uselessness.

>We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. I've used templates
>many a time without a sniff of a reference variable.

I'll agree that it's possible to use templates without references, but
much of the power of templates comes from argument deduction, which
would be a rather painful process without the use of references.  C++'s
containters/iterators/algorithms libraries are incredibly powerful, but
would become rather painful to use without references.

>>C++ I/O is considerably more powerful and less error-prone than the
>>various C equivalents.  It provides a number of capabilities that are
>>extremely difficult to engineer code for in C:

>>- type-safe I/O

>If you want a typesafe language don't use a typed one. Besides which you'll
>soon know if you've sent the wrong type to printf/scanf.

I don't understand the first sentence above.  C++ is a typed language,
and I/O in C++ is type-safe.

There's no guarantee that "you'll soon know" that you have mismatched
format strings, particularly as such strings become more complex via the
maintenance process.  As a general principle, I prefer that errors be
caught at compile time, as early in the process as possible, rather than
tested out during the debugging stage.

>>- I/O of user-defined types is syntactically equivalent to that of
>>  builtin types

>And fprintf and sprintf arn't syntactically equivalent to printf?

Given an object of a certain type (say, ComplexNumber) with a defined
output inserter operator (i.e. ostream& operator<<(ostream&, ComplexNumber))
you send it to cout by:
        ComplexNumber my_complex;
        cout << my_complex;
This looks just like how you send an object of a builtin type to cout:
        int my_int;
        cout << my_int;
Using printf, and substituting a C struct for the ComplexNumber type, you
would have to output the elements individually:
        printf("(%f,%f)", my_complex.real, my_complex.imaginary);
for which the syntax is a lot different than outputting an int:
        printf("%d"), my_int);

The format string argument makes the printf family of functions look
similar, but the fact that you have to use several different kinds of
functions which have to be selected differently based on the type of
data sink makes it cumbersome to redirect I/O from/to a different family
of functions.  In C++, it's done for you via the streambuf type (the
back end of istream/ostream) and the virtual function mechanism.

I might add that there are some hidden gotchas in the use of printf
format strings with regards to similar scanf format strings - for example,
%f can write a double, but it can only read a float.  In C++, the coder
just writes so that whatever is output by << can be input by >>.

>>- redirecting I/O to user-created data sinks / data sources is
>>  syntactically identical to I/O builtin data sinks/streams

>Ah , so fprintf(file_ptr,"...  is different to fprintf(stdout,"..." ?

No, but fprintf(file_ptr, ...) is different from sprintf(string, ...),
and you have to know the difference between the different sinks you are
using for output.  For that matter, using printf(...) doesn't allow you
to redirect the data in any way ("Printf considered harmful!" :-)

>>- facilitated error checking, including delaying error checking/reporting

>So wrap printf etc in a wrapper function.

And call the wrapper rather than printf.  However, you can't get a
library to use your wrapper - it will still be calling printf.

(Yes, I like open source software too, and using it would allow changes
to the library.  However, I also like to spend time at home with my wife,
and going through a library changing printf() calls takes away from the
time I can spend with her.)

>>impossible to engineer in any maintainable manner - a few short lines of
>>code can redirect output of an array of user-defined types to a pipe,
>>string, network socket, or serial port, utterly impossible in C without
>>major reengineering, after which you'd get a set of functions and structs
>
>And where does the code in C++ to do this come from? The tooth fairy? You
>still have to write it yourself just in a different part of the code. 

To redirect output to a different streambuf, you inherit from the streambuf
class, override two member functions, write those and you're done.  The
complexity of those functions will depend on the complexity of the data
sink, but I've written, debugged, and built tests for some fairly simple
ones in about an hour.  Once that's written, it takes one line of code to
redirect an ostream object to use that streambuf - also in one place.  You
won't have to go around changing printfs to fprintfs to sprintfs all over
your code.

>Admittedly a lot of C++ I/O is already set up but thats more to do with
>libraries than the language itself.

If we're divorcing the language from the libraries we shouldn't be talking
about I/O in the first place.  I would posit that given the use of the
libraries in both languages and their places in the respective ISO
standards, that libraries are certainly a valid topic for discussion
regarding the merits of the languages.  I also think it's particularly
pertinent to discuss the libraries - especially the C++ library - as an
example of a good design which uses references and operator overloading.
Granted that both can be abused, the I/O system shows how (when used
correctly) they can create a much more flexible and maintainable system.

> Theres nothing stopping anyone writing
>equivalent libraries in C which could be called by other C coders.

Sure, like libio.  The differences are that such libraries aren't standard
and as such won't be used for the bulk of code, and the syntax of those
libraries will be rather tortured in C.

>>Operator overloading is, in a sense, an unfortunate part of the C language,

>Excuse me? Sure C has some operator overloading but no user defined stuff
>which exacerbates the problem.

True.  I miswrote the line - it should have said "the C++ language".
User-defined operator overloading can obfuscate code significantly.  The
answer is to not let pointy-haired bosses (or their larval stage) write
serious C++ libraries.

>>What if there were a class where those member functions would make more
>>sense in another context?  Perhaps a PhotoCopier object that had a member
>>function to make a copy of a piece of paper rather than a copy of the
>>object.  The best member function name has been taken by the language.

>There could always be a way of over overiding it or maybe a keyword that
>declares the function to be the constructor etc so allowing it to have any
>name.

C++ has too many keywords already :-) and if e.g. 'constructor' became a
keyword that would torpedo using that name for a member function!

>>Using the class name as the name of the constructor seems like a perfectly
>>suitable decision to me.  Given that the tilde symbol is a commonly used

>Not to me , you end up with the class name being splatted all over the class
>definition making reading it rather hard.

Then we would have to agree to disagree.
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Web Page: http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/dpw/            |   for food
In the Sonoran Desert, where we say: "It's a dry heat..."  |     <><
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Re: USR modem won't use COM 2
Date: 30 Aug 1999 14:50:51 GMT

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:42:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rodney Myrvaagnes) wrote:

> I have a USR that works fine on com 2. I had to disable anything on
> com 2 in the Bios and in windows before PNP would assign it there, but
> now it works fine in linux or windows on Com 2.
 
The same here.  In fact mine worked fine just by setting all CMOS to
autodetect and jumpering the card to a standard like COM2 IRQ3.  Then I
made the canges in /etc/rc.d/serial.rc (I think that's the file.  I'm in
OS/2 now) to load a 16550AFN om COM2 IRQ3 and COM1 IRQ2 (mouse) and it
all worked easily.  I further (just in case) assigned the IRQ3 to a
legacy card in CMOS.

I wouldn't have a plug and pray modem actually...

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:22:44 +0000
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Had it with RH6

Chris Campbell wrote:
> 
> Man, I've had with this piece of crap. I've spent in excess of two
> weeks trying to get everything to work right. I was using 5.2 before
> and everything worked right, almost the first time. Now, well, it
> seems like all the major components are broken.
> 
> SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
> got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
> one for a completely different model sound card.
> 
> pppd,UserNet,kppp worked pretty much flawlessly under 5.2, now are
> broken beyond repair. This is the one that did it to me. I can't get
> pppd to connect to my ISP either under KDE using Kppp or under any
> other X WM using UserNet. Man, THIS one has me upset. I've scanned
> about 5 newsgroups continuously for the past two weeks, and have seen
> several fixes as reported, but none seem to work. I can't believe how
> many people are reporting problems...
> 
> Scanner. My Mustek SCSI scanner worked flawlessly under 5.2, and I
> can't even turn it on in 6.
> 
> whew, ranting feels good. Now I'm relaxed. Back to (good) old 5.2.
> 
> Chris
> --
> Chris Campbell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Tech33 on the IRC

If you feel like spending an extra $50 I recommend Mandrake 6.0.  It
installed with no problems.  Had a little trouble with the sound card,
and there's a few updates to do once it's installed but it's basically a
good, easy installation.

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