Linux-Misc Digest #611, Volume #19 Fri, 26 Mar 99 14:13:11 EST
Contents:
Sound in Wabi... (Jon Slater)
can't login in RH5.2!! (Aaron)
Re: microsoft bus mouse (Curt Steger)
Re: Gozilla for Linux? (zentara)
Re: Help with X-Windows (Oliver Natt)
New ThinkPad 770X Site (William Mair)
Re: chown: bug or feature (Ethan Vaughn)
Re: How to load a different MIB on Linux when .... (Wes Hardaker)
Re: "Make"-type tree copy ? (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Re: GNOME compliant window manager - not (Robert Wiegand)
Re: GPL vs BSD license agreement (source code reuse) (Frank Sweetser)
Re: SparcStation 2 binary Linux image (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Help with X-Windows ("Snoopy :-))")
Re: Please Help an Newbie ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: StarOffice (John Thompson)
Re: Distributions with 2.2.x kernel ("Andreas Jonsson")
modules net-pf-??? (Pierre Bodart)
Re: "Make"-type tree copy ? (Paul Anderson)
Re: Sound in Wabi... (Stew Benedict)
?'s about mounting a hard drive (lisa)
Linux as a POP3 server ("Kerry J. Cox")
Re: Windows opening with their tops off the top of the screen. ("RMiles")
exchange client that runs on LInux (Allen Ahoffman)
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From: Jon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Sound in Wabi...
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:06:46 -0700
I did this a few months ago and then had to re-install Wabi.
Someone told me to create a link to one of the Wabi directories and it
would turn on sound.
It worked, but now I don't remember how to do it. Any ideas???
--
Jon D. Slater QualComm Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6150 Lookout Road
Phone: (303) 247-5037 Boulder, Colorado
Fax: (303) 247-5167 80301
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From: Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't login in RH5.2!!
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:27:25 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't login in console or remote using root or other account. However,
I can using
ftp login with those account. I only remember that I have changed
/etc/service for
changing the port of ftp and /etc/inittab for changing from starting
Xwin after boot
up linux to normal login (init ID 5->3) before.
What did I do wrongly?? Please help me. Thanks
Aaron
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From: Curt Steger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: microsoft bus mouse
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:34:01 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It depends, I just installed SuSe 6.0 and thought that I saw bus mouse in the options.
But, when in doubt, a serial mouse works every time..
mike wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:50:25 GMT, Curt Steger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >You might also want to make sure that your sound card (IRQ5) does not conflict with
> >your bus mouse card (IRQ5). If they conflict, then neither will work.
> >
> >With the cost of a serial mouse around a couple-o-bucks, it would be easier to go
> >that route.
> >
>
> Doesn't support for the busmouse need to be compiled into the kernel?
> I don't know if Redhat does this by default.
>
> -Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: Gozilla for Linux?
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: ""
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:29:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>Is there any software for linux, that can resume downloading of broken files?
>Like GoZilla for windows.
>
I think Netscape 4.5 for linux (unsupported glibc version) will
resume an interrupted download. At least I think it does.
Anyone know for sure?
I was downloading StarOffice (about 70 meg) and I got
knocked offline after about 10 megs. When I went back
to resume, Netscape 4.5 didn't ask to "overwrite the file",
it just showed a very high download speed as it "verified"
what I had, then it's speed dropped to normal modem rates
as it resumed.
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From: Oliver Natt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.dev.svgalib,linux.redhat.
Subject: Re: Help with X-Windows
Date: 26 Mar 1999 14:40:54 +0100
try to take a look at
http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS.html
maybe you'll find something appropriate there
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From: William Mair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New ThinkPad 770X Site
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:46:42 +0100
http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/tp770x.html
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From: Ethan Vaughn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: chown: bug or feature
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:15:06 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Peltz wrote:
>
> In article <7c8u6e$44f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Chris Hardin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >program, turning on the SUID bit (with "chmod +s"), then changing
> >ownership of that program to root. If you have too much time on your
>
> Linux turns off the SUID (and SGID) bits if you change the owner (or
> group); it also turns them off if the file is modified by anything other
> than the owner (or root).
I just caught the last bit of this conversation and wonder if it's
something I've got going on that I havent't found the answer to yet:
Somehow any new files created by any user are defaulting to root as the
owner. eg. I log in as user, then do "touch delme.txt". delme.txt will
have the correct umask values (644) and group=user, but owner = root.
Is this at all related to your previous conversation?
Again, sorry if it's not pertinent .. I didn't catch the first bit..
Any info anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.
--
Ethan Vaughn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Wes Hardaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: Re: How to load a different MIB on Linux when ....
Date: 26 Mar 1999 08:40:43 -0800
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:14:46 +1030, Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>said:
Glen> IMHO, if you are writing non-trivial SNMP-intensive
Glen> applications, then a look at the Scotty library for Tcl is
Glen> worthwhile.
Or perl. Or perl!
(sorry, biased... It's tightly integrated with the ucd-snmp package,
so you get its features as well).
--
"Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Subject: Re: "Make"-type tree copy ?
Date: 26 Mar 1999 07:27:56 -0800
**Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a Unix command to copy one file tree to another, but only copy
> files which are not already present - that is, saving unnecessary
> copies, like Make does with unnecessary compiles ?
rsync is closest to what you want.
rdist and cvsup are more configurable and each has advantages in some
situations.
You can also use GNU tar.
And, of course, you can use make itself, if the Makefile's in your
source tree are set up correctly. I use this for updating web sites.
--
/ Steve Savitzky \ 1997 Pegasus Award winner: best science song--+ \
/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \ http://www.starport.com/people/steve/ V \
\ hacker/songwriter: \ http://www.starport.com/people/steve/Doc/Songs/
\_ Kids' page: MOVED ---> http://www.starport.com/places/forKids/ ______/
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME compliant window manager - not
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:11:17 -0600
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:22:10 GMT...
> ..and lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another question: When I open GNOME, all windows open in the top left
> > corner, and I can't move them. does this have to do with the window
> > manager also? Ugh.
>
> Yes. This means that you aren't actually running a window manager. Try
> making sure that Enlightenment is run by gnome-session.
I have this problem as well. It worked the first time, but when I started
it up the second time Enlightenment didn't start.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD license agreement (source code reuse)
Date: 26 Mar 1999 12:06:14 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JR) writes:
> 3) What motivation is there for creating new software? If all
> developers were forced to use GPL, not very much. If that were the
> case, new software would only come from those programmers that compare
> good code to art. Pushing and popping registers, in my opinion is not
> an art, it is a discipline.
don't be so sure - you're still looking at $$$ as the primary motivation.
from a recent slashdot poll,
http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=hackerness&aid=-1
I would code even if I was payed
Displaying poll results -1
nothing 77% 7649 / 77%
1/16 of my current/expected salary 1% 115 / 1%
1/8 of my current/expected salary 0% 55 / 0%
1/4 of my current/expected salary 1% 155 / 1%
1/2 of my current/expected salary 6% 601 / 6%
3/4 of my current/expected salary 13% 1330 / 13%
9906 total votes.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.3 i586 | at public servers
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrase
was "Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up"
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox)
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SparcStation 2 binary Linux image
Date: 26 Mar 1999 11:56:25 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I would like to load Linux (the latest available version of course) on
>
> a Sun SparcStation2. Problem is, that typically a C compiler is
> not available and I cannot make a load. Does anyone have
> a binary load that I can ftp that I can get Linux up and running
> on my Sun ?
redhat ships a sparc version of linux
http://www.redhat.com
http://www.cheapbytes.com
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.3 i586 | at public servers
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrase
was "Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up"
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox)
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From: "Snoopy :-))" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.dev.svgalib,linux.redhat.
Subject: Re: Help with X-Windows
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:27:08 -0500
You should do some browsing on the Webb. there are lots of FREE Tutorials Etc..
Just to Show You what a Nice Guy I am :-))
I am giving you Three(3) of my other Favorites. They can keep you out of
trouble and will keep you busy for quite a while.
The Tutorial & Guide is probobly one of the Best Begginer Guide in the World
( written by Matt Welsh etc. He is also one of the authors of the Highly
Recommended Book = "Running Linux"). You can download the whole Guide for
Offline Reading in many different
Formats
-- (I prefer the HTML) In addition you will find many other
Goodies. Here it is: http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/
There is another site which I highly recommend. "Eric Raymond's" home page.
If you are wondering who he is? In that case you are a Newbie for sure. But
I can assure you, that spending a little time at his page will definatelly
put a fire under you regarding not wanting to be a Newbie for to long.
Ofcourse you will also discover the reason as to why he is so admired by
those who Count, and why he is considered to be One of the Top Gurus in the
World.
His FAQ Collection should definatelly be considered as a Bible for
Newbies!!!!! Here is the Link: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/
I recently run into an other very interesting and Important Web Site Lots of
FREE Goodies!!!
Check it out: http://home.att.net/~aubreyb
HTML, CSS & other " How To " Tutorial Links, Graphics,Colors,
Linux, Emoticons,Acronyms,Modem Info, Sites For Kids, Magazines On Line,
Etc.. Etc...
So Enjoy :-))
Best regards
Snoopy :-)) :-))
Jesse Olson wrote:
> Hi, everybody! I may have posted this to some inappropriate ng's and for
> that I am sorry. I am a newbie to the world of Linux. I obtained a copy of
> Redhat Linux 5.1 the other day and finally got it coexisting with Win95 on
> my system. So far all I have been able to do is some basic commands using
> the 'bash' shell. I want to get X-Windows running but I am having some
> problems. When I try to start it(startx) it does a bunch of stuff and then
> says something like "Found graphics device - unable to establish mode".
> That isn't nearly word for word but it's similar. My monitor is listed
> correctly in the XF86Config file but my graphics card is listed as a generic
> SVGA.
>
> I have a Guillemot Maxi Gamer Phoenix PCI w/ 16MB SGRAM and 3Dfx Voodoo
> Banshee chipset. My monitor is a 14" Optiquest V641. Does anbody have any
> ideas that I can try?
>
> I am still very new to this so please respond with instructions as detailed
> as possible.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Jesse Olson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Help an Newbie
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:26:10 -0800
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Trey wrote:
>
> > I accidentally erased some very important files and don't know how or if
> > i can recover them. "locate" still shows the files but the directories
That's easy, just restore your backup ;-)
Oh, you your backup is broken, too?
Then maybe Undelete MiniHowto
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion will give
you some advice.
But be aware. Even for a technically savvy person it is not easy to restore
just most of a deleted file, not to mention everything.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:32:32 -0600
Ed Winchester wrote:
>
> I just downloaded and installed the free version of StarOffice on top of my
> LinuxMandrake. It seems to have installed ok, but the readme file mentioned
> that it would automatically install into KDE. The install procedure never
> questioned me about that, and I can't find where I could start it from KDE.
> I can't even figure out how to start it manually. I have found a file
> called soffice.bin, but so far haven't gotten it to run. Please help a
> newbie.
I don't know about the KDE part (I don't use KDE) but if you
installed Star Office using the "./setup /net" option to
support multiple users, there should be a ~/Office50/...
directory tree in your home directory. To start Star Office
you just need to run ~/Office50/bin/soffice
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Andreas Jonsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Distributions with 2.2.x kernel
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:57:13 +0100
Right now there is only one distribution with 2.2.x kernel, ant that is
RedHat Starbuck -- BETA build of RedHat 6.0, so there may be some problem.
I haven't seen any yet and I've used it since monday.
/Andreas
jaim wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Are there any linux distributions yet built around
>the 2.2.x kernel? If so what are they?
>
>Jaim
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From: Pierre Bodart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,fr.comp.os.linux.configuration
Subject: modules net-pf-???
Date: 26 Mar 1999 16:35:07 GMT
Hi,
I've recompiled my kernel 2.0.34 (RedHat distribution) and since then
I'm getting those lines almost each time I'm using some network services
(ftp, login, ...) :
modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
I've checked again my kernel options and I was unable to find something
related to 'net-pf' ... I've also search in some HowTo and on the web
unsuccesfully :-(
Can someone help me ?
What are those modules ? How do I enable them (If needed ?) ?
All ideas are welcome !!!
Thanks in advance for your time,
Pierre
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: "Make"-type tree copy ?
Date: 26 Mar 1999 13:30:44 GMT
**Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hmmm. A somewhat crude option. Plus, I'm doing this as a kind of
> "off-line disk mirror" - every night I make a clone copy of my users'
> files this way. I'd rather not have the window of time between the rm
> and the cp, when I don't have that copy. With the TREECOPY (my program)
> or ROBOCOPY (NT resource kit) approach, I copy the new files first, then
> delete the old ones. I don't have a "no backup at all" situation at any
> time. And of course, if the copy is over a network link, there's the
> elapsed time and wasted bandwidth of the redundant copies.
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to get programming. Sigh. (No time !)
Check out "rsync". Does exactly what you want, including encryption and
compresion over the network.
There is also "lfu" which is a local tree copy with a lot of flexibility
in how files are copied (ftp://ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk/pub/paul/)
Paul
Paul Anderson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (+44) (0)131-650-5193
Division of Informatics, JCMB, University of Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
<http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~paul/> (PGP Key) Fax: (+44) (0)131-667-7209
PGP DSS: 1024/C635DAA2 2B8B 79AD DD40 6062 BDD1 7927 F241 8077 C635 DAA2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stew Benedict)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sound in Wabi...
Date: 26 Mar 1999 17:27:44 GMT
this is the README in /opt/wabi/unsupported:
This directory contains unsupported files relating to Wabi:
solarwav.so: Partial implementation of Linux sound driver interface for
Wabi. To use this driver, copy it into /opt/wabi/lib
(the same directory where timer.so is located) and restart
Wabi. You must have already configured your Linux machine
for sound support. This driver is sufficient to play most
.WAV files but does not work well yet with .AVI files.
It does not support sound recording. There are no plans
on providing complete sound support for Wabi for Linux
at this time.
Stew
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:06:46 -0700, Jon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I did this a few months ago and then had to re-install Wabi.
>
>Someone told me to create a link to one of the Wabi directories and it
>would turn on sound.
>
>It worked, but now I don't remember how to do it. Any ideas???
>--
>Jon D. Slater QualComm Inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6150 Lookout Road
>Phone: (303) 247-5037 Boulder, Colorado
>Fax: (303) 247-5167 80301
--
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From: lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ?'s about mounting a hard drive
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:58:41 GMT
Today's Questions are:
I have two hard drives in my machine. both are 6G. When I set up RH 5.2,
using Disk Driud, I specified that I wanted hdc1 (the second hd) as /backup.
At some point in this learning process (I'm being nice here) I edited my
/etc/fstab file to remove the mounting of hdc1. What I want to do is, at a
certain point in the week, schedule cron to mount hdc1, backup my important
files to this harddrive, and umount.
1.How can I be sure that the second hard drive REALLY is hdc1?
2.I have a /backup listed (in root) as a directory. Is this my hdc1? Even if
it's not mounted?
3.Since I am not automatically mounting the drive when I start up, what
command would I use to mount it? I have tried mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/backup
and the hard drive makes it's noises, but how do i tell if I have actually
mounted it? Where will it show up?
Thanks in advance, and hope I'm not wearing out my welcome!
lisa
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux as a POP3 server
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:13:25 +0000
Howdy,
I set up my RedHat5.2 box as a pop3 server the other day. I simply
grabbed the latest version of Pine, coimpiled it from source,m grabbed
the ipop2d and ipop3d binaries, stuck them in /usr/sbin and then edited
/etc/inetd.conf so they would start up. Rather unorthodox but it's how
I got things working on Solaris 2.6.
My question is, it worked for a few days, and now when I use Netscape at
home to check my mail, I keep getting a Bad Password error, even though
I know it's correct, my Caps Lock is not on, etc. I'm suspecting shadow
passwords.
Anyone have any better suggestions for getting this running? Or ideas
on how to fix it? Please email me personally, as how I have so little
time to check this newsgroup.
Thanks.
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| Kerry J. Cox Vyzynz International Inc. |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator |
| (801) 596-7795 http://vii.com |
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From: "RMiles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows opening with their tops off the top of the screen.
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:54:38 -0500
Man, this is what I love about reading these newsgroups. every once in a
while a little nugget like this comes around, and I'm completely astounded!
Thanks, Andrew :)
r.miles
Andrew Glikman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> As an alternative to setting geometries, try holding down the ALT key
> and your left mouse button to move a window. Holding the ALT key and
> your right mouse button will resize a window.
>
> Bill Unruh wrote:
> >
> > I am having trouble with windows in various programs ( Simplicity,
xdvi,
> > ghostview,..) opening with their title bar off the top of
> > the screen. This of course menas I have to use the menus to get the move
> > command to move them back onto the screen, which is a pain. How do I
> > prevent this from happening?
> >
> > RedHat 5.2, XFree86 3.3.2, ATI RAge Pro card, 1024x768 (both real and
> > virtual) running the RH AnotherLevel screen manager.
> >
> > Thanks.
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From: Allen Ahoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: exchange client that runs on LInux
Date: 26 Mar 1999 17:45:38 GMT
Earlier a message asked how to get outlook working on the LInux box.
I ahve the same question, and many were confused by the simple question.
How do you get a LInux box to pick up its mail from an Exchange server,
not a pop3 server thats easy. In NT networks Exchange servers require
WINS authentication etc, how to make this work would be a real step
forward.
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