Linux-Misc Digest #652, Volume #19 Mon, 29 Mar 99 19:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Are screen savers necessary? (James Knott)
Re: xosview and 2.2.x (Len Cuff)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
Re: good linux books? (James Youngman)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
Re: Kernel NFS: equivalent to userland nfsd -r in kernel NFS (Rainer Krienke)
Star Office and X - Windows queries (Mike Parkes)
Error compiling kernel for Redhat 5.2 ("Martin R. Soderstrom")
Which is the best X-Server for ATI Rage IIC card? ("Jim Orfanakos")
Re: can't su from the root account (Jeff Holloway)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Thomas Keats)
Re: ?Corel Netwinder prices? ("Michael Faurot")
Re: Problems with modules and 2.2.x series kernels ... (Luck IT consulting)
making a root disk image? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
linux on PC/104-modules (Holger Blinzinger)
Re: Closing Dell Latitude Cover Crashes Linux (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Script Problems with CR/LF's ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Program for editing the rpm database?
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Johan Kullstam)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Donn Miller)
Re: Web page logins automated? (oak)
Re: please recommend some books for newbie (Justin)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Subject: Re: Are screen savers necessary?
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:26:01 -0500
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The old monochrome monitors "burned in" images fairly quickly. I can't
>tell you how many times I've seen WordPerfect 5.1 on the screen when
>the computer is off!
That's a sure sign you're using the computer too much!!! ;-)
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The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xosview and 2.2.x
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:35:02 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7dm2cb$500$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Young
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Len Cuff wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know why xosview doesn't work with kernel 2.2.x ?
>> I've just moved to 2.2.x kernel running SuSE 6. Everything else works
>> fine, pppd, sound, printer etc but the little xosview window which used
>> to appear in the fvwm2 screen has gone !
>> Running xosview from an xterm gives me nothing although ps ef shows it
>> running. Any ideas ? Has 2.2.x changed so much that it can't work any
>> more and, if so, is there an alternative ?
>> Cheers,
>> Len
>Get xosview-1.7.1
Ed,
Thanks. I got a copy of xosview but rpm complains that I need
libstdc++.so.2.8 when I've .7 and .9 would you believe ! Anyone got a
copy of libstdc++.so.2.8 or could point me to a web site ? I had a look
last night but couldn't find anything. I would have thought that 2.9
would have contained 2.8 plus more ? Could I just link 2.8 to 2.9 ??
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:48:56 GMT
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:28:30 +0000, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>"Jesus Monroy, Jr." wrote:
>
>> Windows is best for:
>>
>> o..........Dummys
>> o..........Corporations that hire too many MBAs
>> o..........The Big Six
>> o..........Creating Hardware standards
>>
>
>Windows is good if you like an OS with all the "bells and whistles". Also, we all
>.....[SNIP].........
>X is a big thorn in the side of UNIX. X is good if you want to run GUI apps on
>.....[SNIP].........
>
I hope I have not trimed your message too much.
I might take it a bit further. Wait let me put on my
bullet proof vest first.
I advocate a new windows system. NOT X-11, but system
closer to TCL/TK, that is OO and is lite (or light, is you like).
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good linux books?
Date: 29 Mar 1999 01:35:01 +0100
"wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Didn't understand your rather personnal feelings regarding
> my comments,
Given your other comments, I am not surprised.
> I was just being realistic, critical towards may be improvment in
> future editions of the book.
Please go ahead and suggest improvments to O'Reilly.
> But that is up to the author that is making the money. Don't need
> your help anyways.....Thank you... ....AND BY THE WAY, MAY BE YOU
> OWN THAT AUTHOR A BEER FOR DEFENDING HIM WITHOUT ANY SEARCH FOR THE
> TRUTH
Nobody here needs to. The book you're whining about as "just a coy of
stuff from the Internet" is probably the most famous book ever written
on Linux.
> .....or for knowing that there are books and bad books...
See above.
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:01:26 -0500
Richard Steiner wrote:
> might not be what WE want? <
And here was I thinking that the comments were about end-users, and
not you and I!
Actually you made two unwarranted assumptions about what I said:
You assumed that I was comparing a GUI to a CLI - I'm not. There's
easy to use software and poorly designed software in both camps.
You assumed I'm comparing Windows software to Linux software. I'm
not - I'm comparing well-designed software to poorly designed
software.
I fully accept your points about subjectiveness, but still find
(some/much) Unix software a pain. And I still wouldn't put end-users
on Unix/Linux. Not yet, at least.
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:02:53 -0500
> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> PMFJI: I'm not the original person you desponded to, but some
> comments
Oh, boy! I'm getting a severe case of deja-vu here!
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: Re: Kernel NFS: equivalent to userland nfsd -r in kernel NFS
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: 29 Mar 1999 13:19:20 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke) writes:
> Hello,
>
> in userland NFS it was possible to start nfsd with option -r to reexport
> directories that the nfs server itself mounted from elswhere. The NFS
> client was then able to mount any of the directories exported by the
> server no matter if this filesystem was local to the server or coming
> from somewhere else.
>
> What I�d like to know if something similar exists in the kernel based
> NFS code?
>
> Does anyone know?
>
> Thanks
> Rainer Krienke
>
Thanks for your answers. It does work. I simply was puzzled by the
description in the man page that mainly talks about synchronizing of
/var/lib/nfs/xtab with /etc/exports.
By the way does anyone know the exact meaning of some rpc.kmountd
options (--no--nfs-version and --nfs-version )
and how to find out for an NFS mounted filesystem what version
of NFS and which protocol layer (udp, tcp) was actually used?
It seams there is no man page of kmountd?
Have a nice day
Rainer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Parkes)
Subject: Star Office and X - Windows queries
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:40:41 GMT
Tried to install Star Office but whenever I run setup System
Configuration (keyboard, sound, mouse etc) launches instead
of the Star Office setup.
In X Windows clickinhg on Midnight Commander doesn't do anything while
according to the Red Hat manual I should, but do not, have an entry of
WM Style under Preferences.
Mike Parkes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Martin R. Soderstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error compiling kernel for Redhat 5.2
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:24:04 GMT
I'm recompiling my kernel to include IP Masquerading. Most of it went well,
but when I try to run the make zImage, it chugs along for a while, but then
stops with:
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [bootsect.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zImage] Error 2
Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
-- Martin
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Reply-To: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Which is the best X-Server for ATI Rage IIC card?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:28:28 -0500
I just picked up a used Compaq Deskpro EP (Pentium II 300 MHz) at a computer
flea market.
It has an ATI Rage IIC (2 MB) video card. Which is the best X-Server to use
with it?
I have tried the SVGA, and some of the other ATI ones but I get distortion
on the right side of the screen when I move the mouse, especially if the
mouse is on the right side of the screen.
Thanks.
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Jim and Monika Orfanakos
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.adelphia.net/~djo3
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From: Jeff Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't su from the root account
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:14:00 -0800
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <7doj2e$h4a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bakhit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>I can su from a user account to the root account with no problems, but
>>when i tried to su from the root account to a user account i get this
>>error message:
>>shell-init:could not set current directory
> When you did the su <user> you were in some directory which the user
> could not read. So, befor you su, do
> cd /
> su <user>
Or you can do 'su - <user>', which gives you that user's environment,
including cd'ing to the user's home directory...
Jeff
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From: Thomas Keats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:34:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> worked with Linux. My prequisites:
>
> 400mhz CPU
> 96mb RAM
> 8mb video card
> 19" monitor
> sound card, speakers
> 4GB hard drive
> CD-ROM
>
> Bonuses:
> DVD
> Color printer
> Tape backup
> Dual CPUs
>
> Notes:
> I don't play video games, so 3D video doesn't mean anything to me.
> I'm open to build-my-own or buying from Micron, Gateway, Dell, etc.
>
And you could always wait for the K7 Chip to come out. it is supposed to knock
Intel dead, K6-3 already beats the PIII by about 20 performance points...
Here is My current system setup. Tried & tested and true.
AMD K6 233
Luckystar Motherboard (5I-VX1F)
16 Meg SDRam (i know i know, made a mistake here, being rectified with the tax
return i just got, getting 2x 32Meg SDram)
18x CDRom
2.5 Gig Quantum Fireball (IDE)
AWE64 ISA
IO/mega 250 tape backup
PCI BNC network card.
4Meg S3 Virge DX/GX
I do use this personal system at work with aa semi-mission critical situation,
so it IS reliable.
My only problem is when i occassionaly pop from X to console, the screen screws
up adn i have to reboot (or kill minicom and use seyon instead-just as easy)( i
suspect the video card is not a quality card...)
Just make sure before you get the components. Verify online that they have linux
compatibility. Or if you are willing to have it sit and not use ti to its full
potential til the drivers are available (this i would leave for the DVD and
sound cards...) No harm in waiting for the SB LIVE 256 support to come out, you
should be able to get it to run as a 128...
As for a monitor, i would suggest again, wait a few months. See what happens
with the new flatscreen LCD monitors. Much less desktop space used.
Personal Dream Machine.
Dual/Quad K7 with 8meg LII cache
Ultra scsi 14Gig Quantum Fireball
384+ Meg PC100 SDRam
52x cdrom (Scsi)
4x Write 8x Read CD-RW Drive (scsi)
SBLive 256 Value
17-21" NEC Monitor (nice, yet simple)
and of coarse the 56K Voice/Fax modem. External
with a BJC 5000 Canon to round off for hard copy.
> Best regards,
> Ed
>
> Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
> A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft operating systems.
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ?Corel Netwinder prices?
Date: 29 Mar 1999 18:22:19 GMT
Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 29 Mar 1999 07:13:29 GMT, Michael Faurot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
:>Is it just me, or does anyone else think these things are silly at
:>this price?
: I'd not say "silly;" I'd simply say "much too expensive."
Okay, "silly" is not the right word--but I was just being polite. :)
:>If these things were about half the cost of a low-end PC, I could see
:>the attraction, but at these prices I can't see where there's a market
:>for these things in either the consumer or business sectors.
: I don't fully agree; compare to the LCD monitors that are also awfully
: expensive. They can be worthwhile in places where space is at a premium,
: and not money.
This is true, if a product fits a particular niche, then business users
will pay a premium for it they need it. Let me rephrase my statement
then: I don't see where these things are going to have much of a market
within the mainstream consumer and business sectors.
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Faurot | phzzzt.atww.org | -- Oscar Wilde
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:09:12 +0200
From: Luck IT consulting <bofh@ovb.!spam.net>
Subject: Re: Problems with modules and 2.2.x series kernels ...
>
> It seems my modules are not loading automatically at all and I having to load
> them individually by hand. Eg, when I want to load a cdrom, I must do
Are you sure you _did_ compile the "kernel module loader (kmod, if I
remeber right...)?
lucky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: making a root disk image?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:41:29 GMT
Hi, i downloaded a slackware rescue disk image for purposes of making my own
custom disk. Well i uncompressed it added my stuff and deleted some other
stuff then tried to compress it... it was 1.56 megs ok i thought i added too
much stuff so i took a bit out and recompressed it and it was 1.56 megs
still! i took all the stuff out (and left the stuff out that i had
origonally removed) and then recompressed it and it was still freaking 1.55
megs! i am using gzip with -9 option and the image is still too big! i have
no idea what the deal with this is i would really appricate the help!
-Gaiko
Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
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From: Holger Blinzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux on PC/104-modules
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:09:29 +0200
Anyone here who tried installing linux on a PC/104-module?
I'm planning on booting from a flash disk. What do I have to pay
attention to?
What about Kernel-modifications?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Closing Dell Latitude Cover Crashes Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:00:12 GMT
James Seymour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm just installing RH5.1 Linux (w/kernel 2.0.36) on a Dell Latitude
: XPiCD (166MHz). If Linux is running and I close, then re-open the
: lid, things crash. For example: if snmpd is running, it will crash.
: If snmpd isn't running and I try to do a "shutdown -r now", init
: crashes. In both cases, the first diagnostic lines says "divide error:
: 0000".
:
: Anybody know what's going on here? And mebbe how I can fix it?
Whew, I'm glad someone else was able to respond to you. By "cover" and "lid",
I would have thought you were referring to the cover to a desktop system. I
was trying to determine what the box cover had to do with anything, unless it
was shorting to something.
Stu ;^)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl
Subject: Re: Script Problems with CR/LF's
Date: 29 Mar 1999 14:08:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
:In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: John McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> I just spent a few hours tracking down a problem that has to do with
:> CR/LF's in scripts. First my setup:
:> (this is the first time I have ever run across it), I also find it hard
:> to believe that the CR's give bash that much grief.
:It isn't just bash, tcsh gave me the same. The only line that is mattered
:for was the first (#!/bin/sh). If you pop that up in emacs, you would see
:
:#!/bin/sh^M
:The problem really lies in the c-shell interpretation (or lack thereof) of
:the CRLF/LF/CR line terminators, and would go for any script file. A shame,
:but I don't know any way around it but to watch how files are transferred.
Why "c-shell" ? I just created a file called t.sh whose contents are:
$ cat t.sh
#! /bin/sh
echo abc
$ chmod 755 /tmp/t.sh
$ /tmp/t.sh
/bin/ksh: /tmp/t.sh: not found
$ /bin/sh /tmp/t.sh
abc
$ /bin/ksh /tmp/t.sh
abc
$ /bin/csh /tmp/t.sh
abc
I think the problem may be that exec is including the ^M in the 'magic' string
when it goes to invoke the interpreter, and of course there is no file named
"/bin/sh^M". As you can see, ksh, sh, and csh themselves do not seem to
have a problem with the actual character.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Program for editing the rpm database?
Date: 29 Mar 1999 14:12:25 GMT
Is there a program to edit the rpm database?
I want to insert entrys without actually
install the packages. My problem is, I have
installed the XFree stuff from a tar-archive,
and now all the X related rpms complain of
unresolved dependencies. Of course, I could
backup all the XFree dirs, install XFree from
a rpm and restore from the backup, but I don't
think this is a very good method.
regards
Guido
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: 29 Mar 1999 08:20:01 -0500
d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox) writes:
> I seem to recall that i686 code will still run on the i386, right?
> If so the best thing to do is compile it for the 686 and call it an
> i386 binary. Binaries that need to go faster on a 686 mostly won't
> be worth running on an i386 anyway.
this is not correct.
-mcpu=i686 makes the compiler schedule for a i686 core. it uses only
the i386 instruction set.
-march=i686 enables usage of i686 instructions like cmov (which did
not exist on i[345]86. it also implies cpu=i686.
if you compile with -mcpu=i686, then yes, it would work with any of
intels 32bit x86 cpus. however, by using -march=i686 you will
introduce new op-codes which are not implemented on previous
processors.
based by my own experience with compiling various things with egcs
on a pentiumpro, it is not very important for performance no matter
what the cpu or arch settings are so long as you avoid pentium.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:28:30 +0000
"Jesus Monroy, Jr." wrote:
> Windows is best for:
>
> o..........Dummys
> o..........Corporations that hire too many MBAs
> o..........The Big Six
> o..........Creating Hardware standards
>
Windows is good if you like an OS with all the "bells and whistles". Also, we all
know UN*X type OSes are better than Windows (except if you like playing games,
watching lots of RealVideo clips, etc.) However, X is a PITA when it comes to
wrting multimedia apps. Also, try working with color Pixmaps (C programming) at the
Xlib level and watch your hair fall out.
X is a big thorn in the side of UNIX. X is good if you want to run GUI apps on
remote machines with different architectures. But when it comes to things like
*programming* with fonts, cutting/pasting, multimedia, graphics animation, etc.,
Windows (as a GUI, NOT as an OS) wins hands down. But then that's what Windblows is
--> a toy OS for the desktop user. However, I'd laugh at anyone who thinks Win98/NT
makes a great internet web, news, anything server.
>
> Linux is best for:
>
> o..........Meeting Chicks
>
That's cool... which distribution attracts the most "chicks" (or should I say women,
because you never know, a member of the female sex might be reading this ;-). Do
you get more women from Slackware or Debian? I'd say Slackware is the best for
this. If you're married, run Debian; nobody will touch you.
Donn
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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web page logins automated?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:30:14 GMT
I'm looking to log into, say, a hotmail account without having to type
in my user name and password. At home I'm usually running lynx so
isn't there a way to tell my cursor to go to the "Login:" area of the
web page and input my username <enter> then proceed to the password
<enter> and I'm logged on automatically? An expect script does the
same thing for me with a terminal connection to a shell account, but I
was wondering if I could do a similar thing with an open web
browser....perhaps some kind of Screen macro or something.
Thanks,
-Tony
> This has nothing to do with Web browsers per se. You can't log in to a Web
> page because HTTP is a stateless protocol -- it makes a connection, fetches
> a document, and then drops the connection. The next time you want a new
> document, it opens a new connection.
> There is a way to password protect directories so that before a document
> can be retrieved, the client will have to send a valid username and
> password, but this is dependent not on the browser but on the server. With
> Apache, this is done via a file called .htaccess in the directory to be
> protected, and a password database which you will need to set up. More
> information is available in the Apache documentation. Once set up, a user
> attempting to access a document in that directory will be given a prompt to
> enter a username and password. Most browsers will cache this request, so
> that subsequent requests to documents requiring the same username and
> password can be made without additional authentication, from the end user's
> perspective.
> There may be a few browsers that don't understand this process (though I'm
> not aware of any), but both Lynx and Navigator do.
> --
> It is pitch black.
> You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: please recommend some books for newbie
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:33:36 GMT
Jason wrote:
> Hi all linux expert
>
Not really, in my case.
>
> Would anyone of you recommend some good books to me?
> Or, is it worth to buy book as I am a newbie?
> Do you guys think that any good site on the web is good for beginner?
>
First: Stay the hell away from Linux for Dummies. You've been warned: it
didn't help at all, in fact, it read pretty much like the RedHat manual.
I found O'Reilly's Running Linux to be helpful, as some others will
probably tell you. I also enjoyed Red Hat Linux Secrets for when I
advanced past Running Linux. Good luck, and don't forget to praise the
penguin.
Oh, and for WWW sites? Try www.linuxberg.com, they've got an *immense*
software repository, and there's usually links to some decent sites from
those software things.
-Justin
> any suggestion
>
> Thanks in advance
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