Linux-Misc Digest #652, Volume #21 Fri, 3 Sep 99 04:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: I'm on, now how do I get off? (Bill Unruh)
Re: DHCP and never-expired leases ("Smallman")
Re: Linux Reading Suggestions (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? ("Kelly Robinson")
Re: MS DLLs vs. Linux Shared Libs (Chris Mahmood)
Re: PDFs for Linux (Chris Mahmood)
Re: Netscape 4.6 + JAVA -> freezes (Bev)
Re: antivirus s/w NewBie please help (Sylvia Wong)
Re: NNTP Servers for comp.os.linux.* NG with Posting Capability (Chris Mahmood)
Re: I'm on, now how do I get off? (Chris Mahmood)
Re: Running two window managers simultaneously? (Cameron Simpson)
Re: (Q) What is the advantage of KDE/GNOME applications? (Timothy Murphy)
Is is possible to store debug information from a seg fault? ("Steve Hiner")
Accessing DB2/400 from perl on Linux ("Juan Riera")
good news for small systems regardinging netscape (B'ichela)
XAWTV and NO SOUND (Ben Vince)
Re: BTTV/BT878 - fullscreen problems (Ben Vince)
Re: BTTV/BT878 - fullscreen problems (Ben Vince)
Re: Lynx History? (Stephan Houben)
Re: Had it with RH6 ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: I'm on, now how do I get off?
Date: 3 Sep 1999 04:47:56 GMT
In <7qkrnp$1mok$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I'm using minicom and pppd to access my provider, but after I'm done I can't
>disconnect. I've tried hanging up and quitting and resetting on minicom.
>Only way I can disconnect is by rebooting!!!!
>There must be a better way.
killall pppd
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From: "Smallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: DHCP and never-expired leases
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:10:40 +0800
Unless you will never upgrade or move client computers, don't set it to
unlimited, or you can't recover a lease to a DHCP client.
Chokky ���g��峹 <7qnaeq$lu7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>DHCP�z���J����scope �����e->�����
>
>Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> How do I configure dhcpd so that it gives out leases that never expired?
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Linux Reading Suggestions
Date: 3 Sep 1999 00:58:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7q69n7$o55$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Kaylor wrote:
> I have installed RH 5.2 in one of my older systems to get a feel for the OS
> and would like to know what books may be a good reference.
In a new edition (which I have not seen):
Welsh, Dalheimer, and Kaufman 1999, Running Linux, 3rd edition (O'Reilly)
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux3/
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Kelly Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:18:39 -0500
Hmmm. I like SuSE because it gives, by far, the best bang for the buck.
Nobody else comes close in terms of bundled software, and SuSE offers
similar tech support to $$$-Hat's distribution...
Dunno about the GUI as I have not yet had enough experience. KDE is nice,
but I also have an affection for WindowMaker.
TNC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here's a little flamebait for you all. What is the best distro and GUI
> combo? By "best" let me explain. I'm a very experienced Linux
> user/admin. I started back around 92 with slackware and am currently
> using Redhat 5.0. I've heard many terrible things about RH6.0 and am
> wary. What I want is a distro that installs smoothly, has a good GUI
> (OK, this is also a question about Gnome/KDE) and has a binary package
> installation system that checks dependencies, etc... I liked slackware
> but after a while I gave it up b/c they use tarballs and make you
> compile everything. As I understand it they still do. Opinions? -
> please CC to my email as my newsserver is slow and flaky. Thanks.
>
>
> --
> "Gun control proposals are nothing more than a modern liberal
> suggestion that government, which is unable to protect its citizens,
> makes sure those citizens cannot defend themselves."
> - Robert. H. Bork
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: MS DLLs vs. Linux Shared Libs
Date: 02 Sep 1999 20:30:50 -0700
Lynn Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^^^^^^^
It's about time you guys started supported ACAD on something other
than MS platforms again.
-ckm
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDFs for Linux
Date: 01 Sep 1999 18:54:08 -0700
"Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does the Adobe available for Linux has any utility for making pdf
> files? I'd like to start making my won pdf files and I don't use
> Windows.
ps2pdf(1).
-ckm
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,netscape.public.mozilla.java
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.6 + JAVA -> freezes
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:26:50 -0700
Nils Bluethgen wrote:
>
> Hello out there,
>
> I have a question about NETSCAPE 4.6 / 4.61 and JAVA. On some (not on
> all!) of our computers (we run linux-RH6.0) Netscape freezes when I open
> the URL
>
> http://www.stadtplandienst.de/query;ORT=b;LL=13.420389x52.54105
>
> with JAVA enabled. Without JAVA there's no problem,
>
> I read about the wrong fontpath-settings, but this does
> not seem to be the problem, since chkfontpath --list prints:
>
> Current directories in font path:
> 1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> 2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
> 3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
> 4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
> 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> 6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> 7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
> 8: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
> 9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mytype1
> 10: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ttfonts
> 11: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
>
> I also upgraded to Netscape 4.61, which gave the same result. Has someone
> an idea?
No, but FWIW the page loads OK with the NS 4.51+java+javascript that
installed along with SuSE 6.1. MY problem is that the stupid
spellchecker freezes it! Oh yeah, other random things freeze it too.
Nicer looking map than mapquest...
--
Cheers,
Bev
oxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
Is there any way I can help without
you know, really getting involved?
-- Jennifer, WKRP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sylvia Wong)
Subject: Re: antivirus s/w NewBie please help
Date: 3 Sep 1999 05:59:04 GMT
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:40:11 +0100, Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And verily, didst A.PADMANARAYANAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>> hey friends!
>> i am a linux newbie just a week old :)
>> could anyone suggest a good antivirus s/w package for
>> RedHat 6?
>
Every time you install a new program, either compiled by you with
downloaded source code or precompiled binaries, check the permissions
of the files installed. If anything is suid (ie an s appears in a ls -l
, like -rws------), be very suspicious. In Linux, only root can do much
damage. A suid program runs with the permission of root, even when you're
not login as one.
If the file you downloaded is in rpm format, check the signature on
it with rpm --checksig file.rpm. Packages from big sites, like redhat,
are all pgp signed. Even if you don't have pgp or the packages
are not pgp signed, the checksig should still be useful for MD5s.
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NNTP Servers for comp.os.linux.* NG with Posting Capability
Date: 02 Sep 1999 22:13:49 -0700
Robert Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am looking for any NNTP server that allows posting to the comp.os.linux.*
> NG. Can someone please tell me where to look?
Apparantly you've found one.
-ckm
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I'm on, now how do I get off?
Date: 02 Sep 1999 22:09:15 -0700
"Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Only way I can disconnect is by rebooting!!!!
Jesus....'killall pppd' or write proper ppp-up and ppp-down scripts.
-ckm
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From: Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running two window managers simultaneously?
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:00:47 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Sep 1999, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Call me a retard, but I'm wondering if it's possible to run two
| window managers simultaneously....that is, in different X-sessions,
Sure.
| if such a thing exists. If it does, how does one start them?
Maybe make your .xsession look at the $DISPLAY variable and pick on or
another? Set a shell variable (eg $WM) to something before starting
X and then check that?
| And if one can run two window managers at the same time,
| are there any serious problems with memory sharing, etc?
Nah - they're just X clients like anything else.
Consider the multiuser machine - it would have multiple window managers
(and xterms and shells and netscape and ...) running at once, on
different displays.
The only real difficulty might be window managers which want to rewrite
their config files or something (and those with config menus may fall
into this category - Real Programmers edit their configs by hand:-)
Then two instances of the same wm might tread on each others' toes.
Maybe. But normally not.
--
Cameron Simpson, DoD#743 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
You should get your mother to proof-read your posts before sending. This
would stop you geting embarased when I poke fun at your spelling...
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Walsh)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: (Q) What is the advantage of KDE/GNOME applications?
Date: 3 Sep 1999 03:26:29 +0100
Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> What exactly is the advantage of a KDE or GNOME application,
>> over a standard application launched through a kdelnk
>> or GNOME launcher?
>Try dragging a file from kfm into kwrite, then try it over emacs.
Is kwrite the same as the application "Advanced Editor" in KDE?
I could not find any mention of kwrite
in the list of applications at http://www.kde.org .
As a RedHat user, I would have preferred an RPM,
but again I did not find any kwrite*.rpm at RedHat.
Having said that, your example illustrates perfectly my theme.
I would not regard the ability to drag-and-drop in kwrite
as anywhere like as important as the facilities offerred by emacs.
In any case, is it not possible to create a "wrapper"
to add this facility to an existing program (like emacs)?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: "Steve Hiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is is possible to store debug information from a seg fault?
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:53:11 -0700
I have a system that doesn't get along with RH6 shutdowns. The system
appears to run perfectly well but when I shut it down and the last System
Halted message shows I immediately get a SegFault with a screen full of
information. How do I save this info to disk so I can post it to get some
help? I'd really rather not type it all in on another system.
If it isn't possible to redirect the info to a file (since everything is
shut down by the time the error occurs) what information is useful for
debugging? Can I redirect it to a com port and pick it up on another
system?
Roughly, this is the error:
Code: <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0000873b
<lots of techical stuff left out>
/etc/rc.d/rc0.d/S00halt: line 1: 1027 Segmentation Fault halt -i -d -p
Any suggestions on how to get the rest of the info without a bunch of
typing? Better yet, any suggestions on what might be the problem?
The system is an AMD K6 3D with 32MB RAM and a Trident 3D Image 975 video
card and a RealTek RTL8029 network card. I have experienced this problem
with Mandrake 6.0 and E-Smith 3.0 - both based on RH6 and kernel version
2.2.5-22.
Thanks for the help,
Steve Hiner
jester[DOT}orion(AT)cwix{DOT]com
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From: "Juan Riera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Accessing DB2/400 from perl on Linux
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:13:22 +0200
hello,
Does anybody knows if is there any way of accessing DB2/400 data on an
AS/400 server from a perl CGI script on a linux box? I have worked with
DBI/DBD for MySQL.
TIA
Juan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: good news for small systems regardinging netscape
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:09:46 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As anyone with only 20MB of ram can tell you, running netscape
4.xx on a loaded system is UgLY! swap space gets used and we all know
about the Netscape 4.xx Java crunch. Looking on linuxberg, my local
mirror is http://downcity.linuxberg.com There is two versions of
netscape 3.04 online. the standard and netscape-GOLD. neither comes in
Glibc2 versions however if you want a simple non-hogging netscape that
is simpler to use. grab em! This netscape works fine on my system ever
shrunk down to 320x200! Netscape 4.08 does Not work that well on
small scrreens. Also its user interface in my opinion reminds me of
netscape on my Windows 3.1 system (it should, its the same version!)
and set up is a snap. the Netscape bin file is the following size
text data bss dec hex filename
4163865 762912 57868 4984645 4c0f45 /usr/local/netscape2/netscape
Compare that with Netscape 4.08
text data bss dec hex filename
9138573 1008604 279320 10426497 9f1881 /usr/local/netscape/netscape
It also appears that this earlier netscape does not have the java
glitch as far as I can see.
Plus Netscape 3.04 starts up Immediatly! No long waits. I
ditched Netscape 4.61 recently and switched to 4.08. Now I am
considering wiping out netscape 4.08 and just use netscape 3.04!
Oh yes, the Netscape 3.04 is Netscape gold, the othe ris
Netscape Communicator 4.08 in the above examples.
I am placing them on my FTP site which is open from 10pm to
6am 7 days a week Eastern Standard Time. ftp://pinkrose.dhis.org
look in the /pub/DLOAD for
either one. Both are the Libc5 ONLY versions. these are the Export
netscapes. for the strong encryption versions. you are on your own ad
I don't use the domestic only versions here.
I also would like some help setting up my web page. I also can
provide some shell accounts but Remember, I only have a 14,400 modem
so speed might be tight. Apache is up with the stock apache page at
http://pinkrose.dhis.org. if you want a free shell account and are
local to Willimantic Connecticut. email me at (yep you guessed it
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
A pearl of wisdom from the y2K newsgroups:
=========================================================================
Y2K appears to be the Baby Boomers mid-life crisis, and it has the
potential to be a dandy.
-- Anonymnous --
==========================================================================
B'ichela
N O T E
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From: Ben Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,redhat.general
Subject: XAWTV and NO SOUND
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 07:31:05 GMT
I'm using XAWTV and a WinView 601 TV capture card (with philips tuner) i am
having trouble getting the sound to work in it. The picture is crystal
clear and i have been able to tune my UK Cable box into it with no trouble.
But it is a bit pointless without sound! My sound card is a AWE 64 (ISA)
and it works with everything else in Linux Redhat 6 (including XWINDOWS of
course!) but just not in XAWTV. This problem is really annoying me, please
help.
Regards,
Ben Vince
ps I have had some problems when the XAWTV application just doesn't work,
do you recommend having to install it all again. It is saying that
/dev/video is not there! I know it is and i've use insmod bttv.o card=0
radio=1 funtion, but nothing, please could you help with this matter? Is it
something to do with the .xawtv configuration file? or the bttv Makefile?
Email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks for all your help.
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From: Ben Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BTTV/BT878 - fullscreen problems
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 07:31:06 GMT
Firstly t get out of fullscreen mode just press the F key on te keyboard
and i have had some problems like that, it was a problem with the overlay
funcion. Whilst in fullscreen mode press the escape key (or right mouse
button) and select the overlay function, then select option 3 (i can't
remember which one it is) and then you should get a picture, however when
you get a full sceen picture it does give you a lower framerate (you know
what that means, a crapy picture!!). Please could you tel me how to set up
the sound though? i still haven't managed to get that working.
I hope this helps,
Regards, Ben Vince (UK)
please email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick C. wrote:
>
> OK, I posted another thread about the BTTV driver and no sound on an
> AverMedia TV98, but I already fixed that myself (and there was MUCH
rejoicing,
> since I'd been working on getting it to work for MONTHS). Now I have a
great
> picture, perfect (mono) sound, and there's only one problem left. I can't
> get xawtv to go fullscreen. Here is my setup:
>
> Kernel 2.2.11
> XFree 3.3.3.1, running at 16 bit color depth 1280x1024 resolution
> xawtv 2.46
> gnome core 1.0.4, libs 1.0.8
>
> When I try to get xawtv to go fullscreen, the display "blacks out" (gets
> replaced by a black screen with a few blue or green lines on it),
something
> dumps core, and I have to ctrl-alt-bksp to get out of X. I can still
press
> esc to shut down xawtv however, and I can still see the mouse pointer, so
X
> is not locking up. It's just failing to properly display a full-screen
> picture. Any help getting over this final hardware hurdle would be
appreciated.
>
> BTW: If anyone needs help setting up an AverMedia TV98 BT878 TV card
under
> Linux (that should be enough for DejaNews :) ), e-mail me, as I would be
happy
> to save someone the headaches I experienced setting it up.
>
> --
> Nick C. - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | E-mail address contains a
spamblock
> "Stupidity should be painful." | Remove IFRICKINHATESPAM to
e-mail
> -Anton Szandor LaVey | [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the bots
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From: Ben Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BTTV/BT878 - fullscreen problems
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 07:31:06 GMT
Firstly t get out of fullscreen mode just press the F key on te keyboard
and i have had some problems like that, it was a problem with the overlay
funcion. Whilst in fullscreen mode press the escape key (or right mouse
button) and select the overlay function, then select option 3 (i can't
remember which one it is) and then you should get a picture, however when
you get a full sceen picture it does give you a lower framerate (you know
what that means, a crapy picture!!). Please could you tel me how to set up
the sound though? i still haven't managed to get that working.
I hope this helps,
Regards, Ben Vince (UK)
please email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick C. wrote:
>
> OK, I posted another thread about the BTTV driver and no sound on an
> AverMedia TV98, but I already fixed that myself (and there was MUCH
rejoicing,
> since I'd been working on getting it to work for MONTHS). Now I have a
great
> picture, perfect (mono) sound, and there's only one problem left. I can't
> get xawtv to go fullscreen. Here is my setup:
>
> Kernel 2.2.11
> XFree 3.3.3.1, running at 16 bit color depth 1280x1024 resolution
> xawtv 2.46
> gnome core 1.0.4, libs 1.0.8
>
> When I try to get xawtv to go fullscreen, the display "blacks out" (gets
> replaced by a black screen with a few blue or green lines on it),
something
> dumps core, and I have to ctrl-alt-bksp to get out of X. I can still
press
> esc to shut down xawtv however, and I can still see the mouse pointer, so
X
> is not locking up. It's just failing to properly display a full-screen
> picture. Any help getting over this final hardware hurdle would be
appreciated.
>
> BTW: If anyone needs help setting up an AverMedia TV98 BT878 TV card
under
> Linux (that should be enough for DejaNews :) ), e-mail me, as I would be
happy
> to save someone the headaches I experienced setting it up.
>
> --
> Nick C. - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | E-mail address contains a
spamblock
> "Stupidity should be painful." | Remove IFRICKINHATESPAM to
e-mail
> -Anton Szandor LaVey | [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the bots
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From: Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx History?
Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:24:32 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams) writes:
> Does lynx have a history or cache like Netscape? If so where is it?
Press "Backspace" to get the history list.
Stephan
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Subject: Re: Had it with RH6
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 00:34:22 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Steve D. Perkins wrote:
>
> :> > SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
> :> > got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
> :> > one for a completely different model sound card.
> :>
> :> I've been complaining about the exact same problem on this group for
> :> about a week-and-a-half, and haven't heard any possible solutions yet.
> :> What exactly DID you end up doing to make your sound card work?
>
> : I got a friend's machine with SB16 PnP to work ni RH6 by using ALSA (supplied
> : on the Eridani RH6 CDs).
>
> This is all mildly puzzling to me. I'm running a SB16 PnP on an
> out-of-the-box RH6.0 installation and had no problems during install or
> after. In fact, I'm listening to a CD through it right now.
Well, first off...the fact that you can listen to a CD means nothing.
I was able to do that long before I figured out how to get my
soundcard working.
Second....I have had some real problems with the new isapnptools. The
one on the new slackware does not function it seems, keeps giving
errors and can never get it right. So when I install slack I skip
that part and install pnptools from the old version and all works well
for me. Perhaps your SB16 PnP is not getting initialized correctly by
the pnp programs.
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