Linux-Misc Digest #660, Volume #19               Tue, 30 Mar 99 16:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: I killed my Linux box (Bill Voight)
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (David M. Cook)
  Re: A major mess - genius needed!! ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Help on PPP dial-up (Wolf)
  Re: StarOffice Consistently Locking up Linux ("Cameron Spitzer")
  translating something like 0x00010b (Walter Strong)
  Re: startx monitor shutdown ("Mark Buckland")
  Re: Linux and Exchange Server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Calendar Program (Edward Vigmond)
  Re: Linux (so many flavours , what's difference?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel 2.2.5 or 2.2.4? (RH 5.2) (Steve Gage)
  Installing Gnome ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  setting up a routing table ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Slackware and XWindows environments (Walter Strong)
  more than one modem in a machine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  libstdc++.so.2.8 needed !! (Len Cuff)
  Re: Groupware on Linux ... ? (Timothy J. Lee)
  Slackware and XWindows environments ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Stuart Fox")
  Re: How do I .... (Mike Werner)

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From: Bill Voight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I killed my Linux box
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:01:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nadine,

My post to comp.os.linux.misc is below.  Looks like we have real similar
problems.  I get an additional line of output, but it seems real similar.  I
was running fwm2 (AnotherLevel) as my desktop, but I don't think that makes
a difference.

I haven't got any additional clues, and will probably upgrade to 5.2, but
the problem's interesting.  In any event, it seems StarOffice's install may
not be ready for prime time.  I've installed StarOffice on Solaris 2.6 no
problem, so I suspect the app itself is OK.

Here's my post-

Sports fans,

I tried to install Star Office on a Linux 5.0 box here at work.  The
install noted that it needed a later version of a library and supplied
that library for installation.  I attempted an install and the box now
hangs with part way through the boot process.  Up till this point the
small part of the boot process it gets through appears normal.  Of
course, I've forgotten where my rescue disk is.

Last few lines of the boot:

Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 as scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Trying to umount old root ... okay

It sits and stares after that point.

I'm probably going to upgrade to RH 5.2, but this piques my curiosity.
Any ideas?

BV



Nadine wrote:

> Something went horribly wrong when I tried to install StarOffice 5.0 the
> other day.
>
> I'm running RedHat 5.1 (upgraded here and there) and KDE 1.1. StarOffice
> needed some glibc libraries that it supposedly couldn't find on my pc.
> Since that glibc .tar file that came with the program was to be
> installed in a StarOffice subdirectory, I thought what the hey, install
> it anyway.
>
> 1. From an X Windows terminal I run /bin/sh to then run the script that
> installs the libraries (as is said in the readme).
> 2. The libraries don't install successfully, and the shell stops
> recognizing commands.
> 3. I can't even exit X properly, and when I press ctl-alt-backspace it
> comes back to a command line login instead of kdm.
> 4. Try to shutdown:
>    /bin/shutdown: file not found
> 5. I do the forbidden: press the power button.
>
> Needless to say, nothing cleared up magically when I rebooted. The
> normal Linux boot messages scroll up the screen, until it gets to this:
>    Partition check
>    hda1 hda2 <hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8>
>    VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
>
> Then nothing. Blank. You enter commands and there's no reaction, not
> even an error message. I tried to use RedHat's rescue disk and get
> nothing but an error message, too.
>
> So, what do I do? Should I start looking for an upgrade disk? Is all my
> data loss (well, the stuff that wasn't backed up yet?) Please help me.
>
> Sob. Sob. Boo-hoo.
>
> --
> Nadine
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.dsuper.net/~anacaona
> http://www.chenpeyi.com/tww
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Best damn mammy portrayals this side of the Atlantic!!!
> --- paraphrasing Ms. Watching:
> http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/8119


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: 
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:05:17 GMT

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:18:18 GMT, David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>http://pel.cs.byu.edu/~alen/computers/Linux/WhyLinux/
>http://metalab.unc.edu/linux/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html

How could I forget Microsoft's own internal Linux advocacy documents:

http://www.opensource.org/halloween.html

Dave Cook

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A major mess - genius needed!!
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:05:42 -0500

Sure as can be - it wouldn't boot from any DOS/Win98 (or older DOS) floppy,
or
from CD, so I couldn't use DOS fdisk or format.   See my other message
describing what I did to recover the system.

It's interesting that if my Linux had been trashed, I'd have had an
apparently
good hard drive which could never have been usable for DOS/Win.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7dqrun$lc1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>You can't boot from a CD or a floppy!?!?!?  The only thing I can imagine
>would cause that would be some horrible Wintel related hardware mess.  Are
>you SURE you can't boot from a floppy??  Really??  IF this is the case, you
>have a hardware/bios problem.  Try removing the hard drive.  Now try to
boot
>from the floppy.  If the hard drive is sitting on the table across the room
>and you still can't boot from the floppy that is attached because of an
evil
>influence projectd by the Linux installation on the hard drive, call the
>Amazing Randi and get ready to take his money.
>
>
>
>In article <7dpq9p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Sullivan) wrote:
>(snip)
>> I've now got the problem that I can't boot into Win98 by any means:
>> neither from the hard drive, nor from a Win 98 boot or rescue floppy,
>> nor from the Win98 CD.  I can boot into Linux either from the hard drive
>> via LILO or from a Linux boot floppy with no problem, and once into Linux
>> I can access my Win98 partition.  Linux fdisk indicates no problem with
>> any of the partitions.
>(snip)
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolf)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help on PPP dial-up
Date: 29 Mar 1999 14:46:01 -0500

>> OK,
>>
>> here's the example of my chat script: 
>>
>> -----snip------
>> 'ABORT' 'BUSY'
>> 'ABORT' 'ERROR'
>> 'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER'
>> 'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE'
>> 'ABORT' 'Invalid Login'
>> 'ABORT' 'Login incorrect'
>> " 'ATZ'
>> 'OK' 'ATDT4945012'
>> 'CONNECT' "
>> 'myusername' 'mypassword'
>>
>> ----snip---------
>>
>
>if your isp uses PAP or CHAP, your script should stop at CONNECT. the login
>and password are handled by them, not your script
>Hope that helps
>Mike
>

OK - you seem to know something about using CHAP or PAP to get
connected....please help.  I can't make this work to save my life
under Red Hat 4.2!!!!

I can get dialed in but have no idea how to make it authenticate

-- 
Wolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice Consistently Locking up Linux
Date: 30 Mar 1999 15:09:44 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ryan Ho  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I am using Redhat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.4 on a IBM/Cyrix PR233. When I use
>the StarOffice 5.1 StarWriter, there is a particular function that locks
>up linux entirely when I activate it. It's found in File -> Print
>Preview.

I installed the demo StarOffice on Red Hat 5.1.  Invoking the help from
almost anywhere would cause StarOffice to spawn five or six background
processes, which would each expand to 150 MB or more, and cause the
system to thrash so hard that it appeared "locked."
(Except that the hard drive was constantly busy.)
This machine has 64 MB of Toshiba SDRAM, and makes a kernel
(the best RAM test I know) in under seven minutes.

Linux' scheduler did not work well enough to allow lighter
processes to go ahead of the huge ones.  It took over an hour
for ctrl-alt-F2 to switch me to a console, and in one case
I waited over night and never got one.
In another case, it took two hours to run "ps ax| grep -i star"
and the kill -9 to the five processes never caught up to them
after another two hours.
Amazingly, there was no file system damage when I reset the
machine.  All hail the great ext2 FS!

After four or five such episodes, and no help at all from Red Hat
or Star Division, I removed StarOffice from the machine.
I don't believe they test that thing at all.

Last week I received SuSE 6.0 in the mail.  They send me every
release because I hold a copyright on one file.
I'd already bought a copy for work, along with the SuSE-branded
Applixware office suite.  It's got some little problems,
but it doesn't lock up.
I haven't had to ask them for help yet.

Cameron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: translating something like 0x00010b
Date: 29 Mar 1999 19:18:40 GMT



Hi,

I'm wondering if the following can be translated into
an IP address:

crw-------   1 wstrong  philo     17 0x00010b Mar 29 13:59 /dev/pty/ttygb

or

crw--w--w-   1 wstrong  philo     17 0x000081 Mar 29 13:29 ttyx1


I recall reading somewhere that these 0x0... strings can be converted to
an IP address.  Am I completely mistaken?
Thanks,
walter

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From: "Mark Buckland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: startx monitor shutdown
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:46:07 +0100
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc

I've tried multiple sensible configurations in Xonfigurator and I have reid
tweaking XF86Config file by hand, but my monitor still shuts down when
running startx.

Just for the record..

HorizSyn 31.5
VertRefresh 60

and using the at Modeline 640 480

Is this the end of my linux experience?

-Mark.



Thomas Griffing wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

>This is usually caused by the video card producing signals to which
>the monitor cannot sync. I usually start by running Xconfigurator
>(Red Hat distribution) and selecting several resolutions, starting
>with 640x480 and monitor sync rates that are conservative. Get
>something working, then try a higher resolution.
>
>If you have selected multiple resolutions, you can switch from one
>to the next by pressing <Ctrl><Alt><+> (where the "+" is the grey
>key on the right of the keypad).
>
>If you want to run it at a resolution higher than the max listed,
>you'll have to tweak the XF86Config file by hand. (I run mine at
>1600x1280).




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux and Exchange Server
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:13:37 GMT

Ya know, Mike, decaf tastes just as good as the regular stuff.  (I think Tim
just goofed, that's all.)


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike) wrote:
> Is there a reason for this post? What's the  point of simply copying
> what someone else has posted?
>
> On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:58:40 -05-59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim
> Kelley) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:25:17 GMT, Robert Binz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(snip)

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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Calendar Program
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:05:44 GMT

William Wueppelmann wrote:
> 
> In our last episode (Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:43:47 -0600),
> the artist formerly known as Andrew Adams said:
> >I broke into Unix on Interactive, then used SCO, a little Solaris, and
> >finally Linux.  The first three had a program called calendar.  It was
> >usually run from root's cron, and would check each user's $HOME for a
> >file named calendar.  It would then pull out all lines with today's
> >dates as well as tomorrow's, and mail then to each user.
> >
> >I can not find a program like that for Linux.  Anyone know of one?  It
> >was so simple to use and I am now really missing it.  I am beginning
> >to fear that anything for Linux is going to be an X (or maybe KDE)
> >program.  Yes, even though am finally finding my way around X, I still
> >like the character command line.  Most things seem simple, fast, and
> >easy to understand there.
> 
> There's a calendar(1) on my system that does exactly what you describe
> (Debian 2.0; I think it's installed as part of the standard BSD tools
> package)  Maybe it just wasn't installed on your distribution and you need
> to do a little digging around?

You can also look at ical which is standard on RH.

-- 
Ed Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux (so many flavours , what's difference?)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:38:18 GMT

Sorry dude.  I lack e-mail time.  Anyway, if you are curious about Linux
distributions, go to www.linuxmall.com and buy all of them for about ten
dollars.  No joke.  This is what I did.  Caldera 1.3 was easier for me to
install than RedHat 5.2 or SuSE 6.0.  (If you live outside the USA, Linuxmall
will help you with import information.)


In article <7dneuc$mu0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have some questions:
> Q1:Can packages of slackware and Redhat be Interchanged i.e. compatibility
> Q2:what is difference in kernels for different Linux flavours?
> Q3:What is difference (technical) between Unix and Linux?
>
> it seems ugly to me to ask for response via email but truly I lack intertnet
> time but quite often checks my email account.
>
> A lot of thanks for your kind attention.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.5 or 2.2.4? (RH 5.2)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:05:56 +0000

cdog wrote:
> 
> I've had no problems with 2.2.5 since I compiled it yesterday.

Ditto - 2.2.5 is just fine here. I'm running what started out as RH 5.1,
but has been morphed into Starbuck. All seems to be just fine and dandy.

- Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Installing Gnome
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:18:18 GMT

Ok everyone, I am trying to install Gnome. I installed the gsl-0.3b-4, umb-
scheme-3.2-7, guile-1.2-6, xscreensaver-2.34-1, slang-0.99.38-8, slang-devel-
0.99.38-8, ncurses-4.2.10, and ncurses3-1.9.9e-7 . yet when I run a rpm -Uvh
*.rpm in the directory where I installed all the RPM files, I get the
following messages.

What rpm packages do I get to install this? How do I solve this conflict
with "linuxconf"?

failed dependencies:
        linuxconf < 1.12r2 conflicts with gnome-linuxconf-0.17-3
        libglib-1.1.so.3 is needed by ggv-0.26-3
        libglib-1.1.so.3 is needed by gnome-admin-0.30-1
        libglib-1.1.so.3 is needed by yagirc-0.65.6-3
        libgdk-1.1.so.2 is needed by ggv-0.26-3
        libgdk-1.1.so.2 is needed by gnome-admin-0.30-1
        libgdk-1.1.so.2 is needed by yagirc-0.65.6-3
        libgtk-1.1.so.2 is needed by ggv-0.26-3
        libgtk-1.1.so.2 is needed by gnome-admin-0.30-1
        libgtk-1.1.so.2 is needed by yagirc-0.65.6-3
        libgnome.so.0 is needed by gnome-graphics-0.13-10
        libgnome.so.0 is needed by ggv-0.26-3
        libgnome.so.0 is needed by gnome-admin-0.30-1
        libgnome.so.0 is needed by yagirc-0.65.6-3
        libgnomeui.so.0 is needed by gnome-graphics-0.13-10
        libgnomeui.so.0 is needed by ggv-0.26-3
        libgnomeui.so.0 is needed by gnome-admin-0.30-1
        libgnomeui.so.0 is needed by yagirc-0.65.6-3

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: setting up a routing table
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:09:47 GMT

I have a quick question about setting up a Linux-based router. I already know
the generalities, but would like to field the question for comments and any
possible hints or tips that might be out there.

We have two offices, A and B. I would like both A and B to have Internet
access. Both offices will have dynamically assigned IP addresses through PPP.
Also, the two offices will need to have a TCP/IP network going between them.
I plan on using PPP for this also because of the ease of setup. So, we have a
PPP link going from A to B also (the link should be able to be initiated by
either).

I assume I need to setup a routing table with each machine in both A and B.
If the address is not in the table (not in A or B), the data will be sent
over the Internet PPP link. This means if A has data not meant for any
machine in A, then looks in the table and determines it does not go to B, it
will go to the Internet. Also, if group B has data and the address does not
belong to group A, then send it over their Internet link.

Corrections? Tips, hints, suggestions? Security considerations? (We are a
medical clinic. Patient confidentiality is vital.)

Also, I would like to enable Windows Networking over this link, as in having
SAMBA setup in both A and B. So, group A could print to group B's printers (a
cheap way to fax). Any problems with this? Anything to keep in mind?

Regards, Dustin

---
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: Slackware and XWindows environments
Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:27:19 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I know that Slackware initially comes with XFree86 but I'm not sure how that
: figures in with the Windows Managers and Desktop Environments.        Is XFree86
: the Desktop Environment that comes with Slackware?  The reason I'm asking is
: that I'm currently unhappy with what my XWindows setup looks like now and I
: want to change it.  I started looking for information but I've been
: overwhelmed with it all.  Currently I've been looking at the X11.org home
: page.  It has a great break up of all things X but I'm still lost.  Looking
: over most of the links I think that what I want to do is install
: Enlightenment as my Windows Manager and GNOME as my Desktop Environment but
: I'm not exactly sure on how these two things relate to the current
: configuration of XFree86 that I'm using on my Slackware 3.6 box now.

XFree86 is not a window manager.  It is an X server.  Slak comes with many window
managers (fvwm2, twm, olwvm, fvwm95, kde (somewhere)).  You can download and 
install any window manager you like.  Read the install and readme files for 
whatever you want to install and go from there (or come back here with more
specific questions).  You could also try Dejanews.  


: Any help would be greatly appreciated!

: Incidentally, is there anyone who knows of a good text editor for C in linux?
: Currently I use pico and vi but I've seen some cool MS Windo$e text editing
: environments in which they color code your code.

Emacs.  colour coding, auto-indenting,
revision control, a full programming environment.  All MS programming 
environments want to be as good as Emacs, \begin{joke} but fail \end{joke}.
  


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: more than one modem in a machine
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:15:08 GMT

I know it is easy to setup two modems in a PC, but how about 3 or 4? I would
like to setup Linux as a communications server, where it can serve as a modem
pool similar to the SAPS systems for Windows. Also, what is a good start as
for as reading up on setting up a modem pool under Linux? The system would
have to allow for any user to automatically be able to use any free modem in
the system.

If there isn't GPL'd software for this, is there a commecial package? It would
need to work with Windows machines.

Along these lines, anyone have any experience with multimodem cards? It might
be easier to setup a server with 4-8 modems for this if I can get a decently
priced card.

Thanks for any help!

Regards, Dustin

---
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: libstdc++.so.2.8 needed !!
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:53:25 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am trying to upgrade xosview to work with the 2.2.3 kernel. I have the
rpm but I need this library file to install it. Does anyone know where I
can get a copy from please ?? I have libstdc++.so.2.9 but this is no
good.
Cheers,
        Len

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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Groupware on Linux ... ?
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:28:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|One of the things I've been asked to clean up/construct is the corporate
|e-mail system. There is a strong corporate preference for Lotus Notes.  I'm
|not in favor of this for any number of reasons, chief among them is that I'm
|going to have to learn a proprietary set of tools that run on NT.

Lotus Notes is available for various types of Unix (not sure about
Linux availability).

|I can set up a POP/IMAP/SMTP server any day of the week.  An NNTP server for
|shared discussions is a cinch.  Web pages with our corporate e-mail is no
|problem.
|
|The killer is that I can't find an attractive alternative to some of the group
|conferencing and scheduling that Notes offers.  There are some CGI scripts out
|there that will do nice things, but their interfaces uniformly SUCK, and I'm
|not sure I have time to clean up the HTML they're generating.

Maybe CyberScheduler (www.xwind.com) or CorporateTime (www.cst.ca)?

-- 
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee                                                   timlee@
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.             netcom.com
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Slackware and XWindows environments
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:30:35 GMT

I know that Slackware initially comes with XFree86 but I'm not sure how that
figures in with the Windows Managers and Desktop Environments.  Is XFree86
the Desktop Environment that comes with Slackware?  The reason I'm asking is
that I'm currently unhappy with what my XWindows setup looks like now and I
want to change it.  I started looking for information but I've been
overwhelmed with it all.  Currently I've been looking at the X11.org home
page.  It has a great break up of all things X but I'm still lost.  Looking
over most of the links I think that what I want to do is install
Enlightenment as my Windows Manager and GNOME as my Desktop Environment but
I'm not exactly sure on how these two things relate to the current
configuration of XFree86 that I'm using on my Slackware 3.6 box now.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Incidentally, is there anyone who knows of a good text editor for C in linux?
Currently I use pico and vi but I've seen some cool MS Windo$e text editing
environments in which they color code your code.

Again, thanks for the help.

-Rick

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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:30:14 +1200

Well, he used an example of an improperly configured NT box as a direct
comparison - I can read as well as anyone thanks.  BTW, this thread started
out cross posted to the microsoft news groups...

Throw me in a kill file if you like.


Stu

M. Brian Akins wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Perhaps you cannot read the newsgroups title, *.linux.*.  I know that a
properly
>configured Linux box will not crash, and I think I speak for most here -- I
>don't care what NT does, I read this ng for linux info.
>
>
>Stuart Fox wrote:
>
>> Although this isn't the forum for tech support, you missed a step in your
>> procedure.
>>
>> You installed the mpri386 after applying SP4.  This was a bad idea.  SP4
has
>> fixes for these features and making changes to the networking components
>> without reapplying the service pack will usually cause problems
(including
>> blue screens)
>>
>> My argument still stands - a PROPERLY configured NT box will not blue
screen
>>
>> Stu
>>
>> dont spam me wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:10:30 +1200, "Stuart Fox"
>> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>Also, time for a few facts
>> >>
>> >>1.  NO operating system is bug free
>> >>2. Both Linux camps and MS spend considerable time locating and fixing
>> bugs
>> >>3. A properly configured NT box will not Blue Screen, and will be as
>> stable
>> >>as a well configured Linux box.
>> >>
>> >>Just my two cents worth.
>> >>
>> >1. true
>> >2. true
>> >3. false
>> >
>> >
>> >if this is true...explain this one to me. if you follow steps 1-7,
>> >step 8 is garenteed to happen every time with every computer I've
>> >tried it on. ( seems that the y2k patch for nt makes it compleately
>> >unusable now instead of makeing you wait for 1/1/00 you can skip step
>> >8 only if you install sp3 instead of sp4 but the moment sp4 is
>> >installed, CRASH)
>> >
>> >1 brand new computer
>> >2 clean hd
>> >3 nt server fresh install as primary domain controler
>> >4 get on the net and download and apply nt serive pack 4 y2k
>> >5 download and install mpri386 (lan to ras routeing package)
>> >6 restart computer
>> >7 connect to the internet
>> >8 core dumps system restarts.
>> >
>> >nothing not listed here was done to the system
>> >figured it was my hardware, scraped the entire computer got a new one,
>> >same thing.
>> >custome built me one for this.  same thing
>> >
>> >took the original computer, installed linux
>> >echo 1 >/proc/system/ipv4/ip_forward
>> >now does the job perfectly just wishing for the ml-ppp that nt has
>> >
>> >you see, I have a dial-up sub-net and none of those advanced
>> >technologies like isdn or adsl or cable modems are available in my
>> >area yet. and all I want to do with this NT box is lan to ras routing.
>> >I have different servers for everything else
>> >
>> >
>



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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: How do I ....
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:14:14 -0500

yan seiner wrote:
> 2)  In NS 4.5, how do I change the default font size?  I seem to be
> stuck with about 8 point fonts, which are reduced to a blur on my
> ancient monitor.

I'm using 4.51, but it should be the same for you.  Click Edit ->
Preferences -> Appearance -> Font  Then select the fonts you want.  I
had the same trouble - 8 point fonts don't show well on a 15" monitor
vbeing run at 1024x768.

> 4)  I muddled through the kernel upgrade with no docs.  Is there an FAQ
> somewhere on what should be done?  I seem to remember reading somewhere
> that kerneld would go away and be replaced with kmod (??) but kerneld
> still seems to get installed on my system.  I wonder what else I'm
> missing.

There is a Kernel-HOWTO that you probably have installed.  It can also
be found at
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO
That howto spells it out fairly well.

> Did everyone catch Dilbert this morning?

I was still giggling half an hour later.
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