Linux-Misc Digest #663, Volume #19 Tue, 30 Mar 99 22:13:09 EST
Contents:
Help updating from 2.0.36 to 2.2.4 under RH (Edward A. Baron)
Re: ?Corel Netwinder prices? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Writing CGI Scripts in C and Serving with Apache ("Rita Schiavone")
Desktop/screen res setup, help! ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
cpio+linux+hpux ("BEA-Conseil")
Re: Linux server with Outlook client (Jeffrey L Straszheim)
Re: Using Samba and NT Workstation (peter)
Re: Where to purchase linux? ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Linux In Banks? ("Anthony W. Youngman")
dumb rpm question (afterstep rpm) (Jason Rotunno)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward A. Baron)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help updating from 2.0.36 to 2.2.4 under RH
Date: 28 Mar 1999 19:28:29 GMT
Hi,
I upgraded from 2.0.36 to 2.2.4 in the hopes of being
able to get my sound card to work because I understood that
2.2 had better PnP support.
Now I am in worse trouble. I can't configure my printer, ppp, or
sound. I have an Ensoniq Soundscape Vivo PnP card.
When I try
to make a ramdisk as directed I get:
Can't get a loopback device
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/loop0 as a block device
(maybe `insmod driver'?)
Can't get a loopback device
insmod: loop: no module by that name found
I'm wondering if the module-info file is wrong, it didn't seem
to have been created.
See below for /boot. Do I have to do something special?
When I try to do
insmod soundlow
it balks, but if I go to /lib/modules/misc
I can do it. Same for paraport, paraport_pc, paraport_probe, and sound.
Below is an ls of /boot.
I'm booting off a floppy, since I have a working slackware and window
on the primary disk and don't want to mess with that until my
RH version is stable.
Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize.
Thanks,
-ed baron
total 1372
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Mar 28 10:57 System.map -> System.map-2.2.4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105911 Oct 13 21:41 System.map-2.0.36-0.7
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166732 Mar 28 12:15 System.map-2.2.4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Mar 13 15:01 boot.0200
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4536 May 7 1998 boot.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 May 7 1998 chain.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 168317 Mar 28 10:58 initrd-2.2.4
-rw------- 1 root root 13824 Mar 28 12:16 map
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Mar 28 04:07 module-info ->
/boot/module-info-2.0.36-0.7
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11773 Oct 13 21:41 module-info-2.0.36-0.7
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308 May 7 1998 os2_d.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 454325 Oct 13 21:41 vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 462124 Mar 28 12:15 vmlinuz-2.2.4
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PGP Key fingerprint=B3 6A 5B B3 17 80 65 DE 67 46 0D 35 D0 A6 0E 6D
PGP public key available from http://www.nhn.ou.edu/~baron/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: ?Corel Netwinder prices?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 02:07:20 GMT
On 30 Mar 1999 22:40:27 GMT, Michael Faurot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: My theory is that they'd "sell like hotcakes" at a price of about $400.
>
>Agreed. I'd definetly be interested at that price for both personal
>and business use.
>
>: My basic idea in 1997:
>
>: Take a N64 ($200). Add 16MB of RAM, a video chip supported by XFree86
>: (S3V), keyboard, and Ethernet hardware. This should still cost under
>: $400. More modern units now come with CD-ROMs, which would make
>: deployment of Linux cheaper still, at $2 for a CD, rather than $50 for a
>: cartridge.
>
>: Reality is closer to that than you might think; I have heard reports
>: assortedly of the availability of Linux-based development platform
>: support for both N64 and Sony PlayStation.
>
>This might fly for personal use. I'd have a hard setting up a "Nintendo
>thin-client" for business use though. :) On the other hand, it would
>all depend upon how it was packaged. Having a Nintendo on your desk
>running Linux might not be so bad, only so long as it didn't look like
>a video game console.
Obviously *calling* it a "Sony PlayStation" would not go over well with
corporate types.
The transformation to "Sony WorkStation" would probably involve doing up a
more "business-like" plastic case, and otherwise making sure that
game-oriented stuff goes away.
That strikes me as a relatively minor packaging issue.
>: A "disposable" computer with *no* hard drive, a CD-ROM, maybe some
>: FlashROM, and modest CPU/RAM packaged in a minscule case not too much
>: larger than the CD-ROM unit would be entirely handy and cheap.
>
>Essentially a hand-held PC running Linux. That would be cool.
Yup.
>: A NetWinder that includes hard drive may be worth $600, but certainly at
>: over $1K it represents premium pricing for proprietary hardware, which
>: prevents mass sales...
>
>$600 is about the same price as a low-end PC. I'd still rather have a
>PC than a Netwinder at this price.
Combine "space premium" with lower power consumption, and consider that
corporate folk aren't fixated on that $600 price when (the clueful ones)
figure that deployment requires adding in other costs.
You may not like $600; they might well be able to sell enough "hotcakes" at
that price to keep product lines humming. Remember, about $100-$150 of that
represents cost of a hard drive; chop out HD and we get near $400...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: "Rita Schiavone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Writing CGI Scripts in C and Serving with Apache
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:05:02 -0600
It works fine from the command line. It's only when I use it as a CGI
program that it stops unexpectedly.
L J Bayuk wrote in message ...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I am using the Apache Web Server and Linux. I'm trying to write a CGI
>>program in C that does the following:
>>
>>1. Reads in a file of records (e.g., the cron tab file).
>>2. Displays the file to the screen in an HTML form with a couple of
>>checkboxes per record, so the user can select records to delete, activate,
>>etc.
>>3. Has a SAVE button that writes user changes back to a file.
>>
>>1 and 2 work fine. It's the 3rd item I'm having problems with. The SAVE
>>button is pushed and it goes off to execute the CGI program but halts in
the
>>middle of the program (no errors it just stops before completing the
>>program). If I try to open a file using the standard fopen() routine, the
>>program dies at that point. If I use strcmp() to compare two strings, it
>>dies there. I have tried putting fflush(stdout) before it, after it, lots
>>of places, and it still doesn't work.
>>
>>Could some C CGI guru out there please provide me some pointers as to what
I
>>am doing wrong or what I need to do to correct this problem.
>>
>>Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Well, I'm no guru of anything, but it doesn't look like a CGI problem
>to me. If the program dies when you call strcmp() or fopen() I would
>guess something overran memory and/or the stack or some such thing.
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Desktop/screen res setup, help!
Date: 29 Mar 1999 15:54:15 PST
I'm running Redhat/Mandrake 5.2 w/ KDE, though I've been experimenting with
Windowmaker lately. I'm frustrated with configuring my screen size and
desktop size. Linux/X' extra large desktop can be a pain, because I have to
keep moving the screen back over the program windows as I work. This is
especially annoying because a mouse never works smoothly for more than a few
days. So, I want my program windows to fit well within the screen.
Particularly, I'd like to be able to run Netscape at the equivalent of full
screen 800x600 in Windows 95/98, and still have a little room around the
edges.
I've tried changing to lower screen resolutions to get a smaller desktop,
but then program windows are too big to fit, and the KDE bar at the bottom
doesn't fit. Netscape looks really grainy, etc., probably because I'm just
looking at a magnified view of a small window. Can I just run at 800x600,
or a little bigger, with the whole desktop visible, just as with Windows? I
don't understand, is the 'desktop" at 800x600, or is the 'screen' at
800x600? What is the relationship between the two, and can it be changed?
How?
I'm not married to KDE. KFM, etc., are nice, but I'm sure other things
would be just as good. Besides, I had trouble running GIMP with KDE. I got
an error messge about color mapping or something, probably because I don't
have enough video horsepower. Everything runs fine, and noticeably faster,
with Windowmaker. I have an on-board ATI Mach 64 with 2 MB VRAM, and no
plans to upgrade. My monitor is a garden variety 17", a few years old.
Any ideas? What desktop/screen settings should I use? How should I change
these, ie, what tool should I use, or should I just edit files manually?
Which ones? How?
Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 01:36:19 GMT
Hello, I am thinking about doing the very same thing. I have a copy of 5.2
on a 486 with 32Meg and will be getting my dsl line next month. I was
wondering which client did you use on your W95 machine? I tried to tell my
machine to log onto an NT domain but got lost in the HOW-TOs on the Linux
side. I saw a Sun client for PCNFS sitting in the network CPL and was
wondering if it is easier to set up the W95 machine do things the Linux way
instead of the other way around.
>
> I bought Red Hat 5.2 and had my used pentium up dual booting Win 98
> and a custom Linux server install in about 2 hours. Using Red Hat
> documentation and a couple of books I was able to ping the Linux
> server on eth0 from my other PCs across a hub almost immediately.
> Setting up Apache to run a clone of my limited web site took another
> hour or so.
>
> Figuring out how to set up ipfwadm and configure a working network
> behind a second NIC on the Linux box took considerably more work. I
> ended up screwing everything up and had to reinstall Linux. But, with
> a few newsgroup questions, and a lot of HOWTOs I got that working in a
> couple of weeks. I can now connect to it from my "private" network
> using telnet, ftp, http, and I'm even exporting X terminal sessions to
> a WIN98 box upstairs. Samba is starting to look interesting. I'm
> still a bit uncertain about my security, but I seem to have everything
> from outside locked out except for http (which I want to let in). My
> SDSL line is coming in about a week and I will try turning this thing
> loose on the net.
>
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From: "BEA-Conseil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cpio+linux+hpux
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:06:06 +0200
Hello,
I just installed Red-hat 5.2 on an I386 platform, with an Adaptec AHA2940
and a HP 4mm DAT.
The device is recognized by the system, the hardware seems to be ok. (device
= st0)
The question is :
somebody gave me a DAP where data where backed up from an HP3000 runing
under HPUX (MPEX version ???) The command used for the backup was cpio.
Now, I would like to restore the data from the tape and into Linux.
What is the syntax ?
I tried cpio -i </dev/st0 but i had the message '...end of tape...'
Does anybody experienced this procedure and is able to help me.
Thank you very much for your help.
Bruno ETIENNE
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From: Jeffrey L Straszheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux server with Outlook client
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:56:36 -0500
John McKown wrote:
>
> Outlook can use the Linux system's mail system since Outlook can connect
> to a POP server. Unfortunately, the other functions in Outlook, such as
> calendering, are Microsoft extentions which are NOT documented. I have
> a vague memory of somebody working on reverse engineering the protocol,
> but I can't remember any details. Sorry, the bottom line is NO.
This just isn't true. The calenders will continue to work within
the *.pst files on the local drives, and Outlook has the ability
to do the group scheduling through posts via mail. Also, if you
have Samba set up you can create a MSMail share on the server and
handle your mail that way. Many of my custormers use Outlook just
fine without running Exchange.
--
--Jeffrey Straszheim
---Systems Engineer, Programmer
----stimuli AT shadow DOT net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Using Samba and NT Workstation
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:18:54 GMT
In article <7djjvg$2tme$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I'm trying to Linux with Samba and Windows NT Workstation talking. When I
> look at the Network Neighborhood on NT it will show the group but it does
> not display the computer(times out). The version of Linux I am using is 5.2
> and everything now is running on an out of the box server installation.
>
> Things that do work are Apache, FTP and pinging so I know the network does
> exist but something must be set wrong in the default install.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
you also run /usr/local/smb/bin/nmbd which is necessary to see the shares
?
in a nt-command-window you can try to mount a linuxshare with the
'net use'-command. in linux you can try to see the nt-shares with
smbclient or try to mount.
if you need additional help please tell us your samba-version and your
the number of your sp.
peter
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to purchase linux?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:54:05 -0500
www.cheapbytes.com
D. Leaf wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I've heard linux dist cds can be bought for $2 plus shipping. Where is
>this?
>
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux In Banks?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:11:52 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7dfjcv$i9f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Louise Adderholdt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>I have a file from 1995 that's relevant here, downloaded from some news
>organization. (I wish I could remember the URL.) It's too old to be
>really useful, but it's entertaining anyway.
>
>Louise Adderholdt
>
>
>
>
>NT causes banking crisis
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Certain major banks across the world are counting the cost of an
> ill-judged migration to Microsoft's Windows NT. The two banks, the
> Commonwealth Bank of Australia and the National Westminster Bank
> (NatWest) in the UK planned to move to NT for strategic systems
> projects.
>
> The NatWest is presently setting up an architectural unit for
> determining the technical issues it must resolve for the Retail
> Banking Platform (RBP) project. A senior National Westminster official
> said a mix of poor project management and continuing technical
> problems with the Windows NT platform has produced extensive delays
> and additional costs to the RBP project.
>
> Senior bank officials could no longer justify 'wasting' the bank's
> money on internal IT, said the source. NatWest declined to confirm or
> deny that the eventual roll-out of RBP to 650 branches would not now
> be on the NT platform.
Not to say down-time. They HAVE rolled out NT, and they HAVE had a
couple of high profile crashes. Iirc, one took out the branch and ATM
network for about 36 hours ...
>
> Craig Conway, president and chief executive of US-based Web software
> specialist TGV said: "It is amazing that banks would be fast followers
> of NT. As far as networking and scalability are concerned, Microsoft
> carries enormous risk."
>
> NatWest's RBP project, managed by Tony Warren, comes under the
> ultimate control of NatWest's group IT director, Stewart Legg. The
> system was due to be built using a Sybase database and PowerBuilder
> but, after intervention from Bill Gates, it was decided to switch to
> Microsoft's Windows NT.
>
> The NatWest deal was significant for Microsoft because it marked the
> firm's first move into the enterprise-wide IT solutions area.
>
>
> Copyright 1995 CNME. All rights reserved.
>
NatWest is still committed to NT. They are also currently one of the
least profitable big banks in the UK, I think. I'm hoping they have a
major branch-level Y2K disaster :-) along the lines of the crash
mentioned above (blamed on a faulty app, I believe, that was
automatically rolled out).
That said, I am a customer of theirs, and one thing I do appreciate is
their attitude to computers. Of the four or five banks I've been with,
they are the ONLY one that haven't blamed cock-ups on "computer error".
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)
If replying by e-mail please mail wol. Anything else may get missed amongst
the spam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Rotunno)
Subject: dumb rpm question (afterstep rpm)
Date: 31 Mar 1999 02:54:42 GMT
i want to install afterstep on my redhat box. i installed it on my
slackware box and i liked it so downloaded the rpm for redhat. this is
my first time using rpm and i know it's supposed to be very simple. when
i clicked it to download, kpackage (kde rpm utility) opened up. after the
download was finished i clicked on install to install it. from there i
just didn't know what to do. the readme file only explains how to install
the .gz.tar file which is just to run ./configure, make, make install and
then add the line "afterstep" to the .xinitrc. i figured installing it w/
rpm installed it and i just needed to add the line to .xinitrc.
with "afterstep" in the .xinitrc file (which didn't exist before) x
doesn't start (i get "afterstep not found" message). i then tried
installing it from the command line thinking maybe it didnt' properly
install through kpackage, but still no luck. rpm seems to install it,
but...it doesn't actually seem installed because i get the "afterstep not
found" message. any suggestions?
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