Linux-Misc Digest #663, Volume #24 Wed, 31 May 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? ("Fredrick Gethers")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Rob32@nospam)
Support for Ultra 160 (Jimmy Lio)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Windows98 FAT32 partition (eljayh)
partition table lost ("MAP")
Re: partition table lost (muzh)
Re: partition table lost (Martin Herrman)
Backing up to CDRW (Jean-Sebastien Morisset)
Re: partition table lost (Martin Herrman)
Re: Apache/php/mysql building everything for Linux? (YamYam)
Re: partition table lost (Arnaud Kok)
Re: Can't Mount 6GB FAT32 (Brett Rosselle)
Kernel Building Question ("Walter L. Williams")
Re: Dual Boot S.u.s.e. Linux and NT4.0 (need Help) ("Walter L. Williams")
Re: ide-scsi - How ignore IDE Zip drive? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Fredrick Gethers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:18:28 GMT
Ok,
The reason I posted this was because I have a Linux machine at home which
consist of a Compaq Deskpro 2000 with a P133 (I ordered a used P200, haven't
received it yet!) with 80mb of RAM (upgraded from 32mb) and a 4.3gig
Harddrive (upgraded from 1gig) and a 2x CDROM and floppy.
My primary home machine is a Dual PII 400 with 512mb of RAM, 21" Dell
Monitor, ATI All in Wonder Pro 8mb Video card, 32x CDROM, 3 10gig
Harddrives, SoundBlaster Live, Well you get the picture!!!
My primary work machine is a Compaq Deskpro with a PII 266 with 192mb of RAM
My Linux machine at work is a Compaq Deskpro with a PIII 667 with 256mb or
RAM and a 13gig Harddrive and CDROM (more powerfull because it's newer).
I said all this just because as you can see, I am used to speed!! and would
like have something a little snappier than the P133 or P200 for Linux (mabe
the equivelent of a PII 366 or 400).
I just figured since those Sun Sparc pizza boxes are soo sexy, it would be
nice to get one with the performance stated above, install Linux and that's
it (I have no special need other than that, Sun Solaris is nice, but I have
no intention of running it).
"Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message news:8gtb9p$eks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [[ PLEASE DON'T SEND ME EMAIL COPIES OF POSTINGS ]]
>
> "Fredrick Gethers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >**********************************************
> >Sun Sparc Classic, 50MHz sun4m archtecture, 96mb RAM (worth $30*6, $180
by
> >itself), 2.1gb harddrive, Solaris 2.7 desktop with disks and manual and
> >preloaded, guaranteed against DOA (this is a currently working system
setup
> >as my mail server), optional 20" sun monitor in new condition add $175,
> >optional type 5 keyboard and mouse add $55). This Sun workstation is
> >basically a Sparc 10 with different cache, and most Sparc 10's are only
> >30MHz, this one is 50MHz (faster than an Intel Pentium II 450 running
> >Windows 95, really, and NO crashes to boot). The only reason I am selling
> >this is because I am upgrading to an Ultra computer and need some cash.
> >**********************************************
>
> Well, this message is rather bogus:
>
>
> - it's not essentially a SS10; the CPU is slower (it performs
> considerably less work per cycle)
> - it has a tiny cache (2+4)?, smaller than the SuperSPARC's on-chip
> cache (36K) (not to mention the 1MB external cache some modules
> have)
> - most SS10s weren't shipped at 30MHz (early models ran at 33 & 36;
> most the majority are most likely 50s or better, perhaps 40; a
> 40MHz SuperSPARC is faster than a 50MHz LX)
> - the only thing faster in the LX is memory bandwidth; being a
> single CPU system, memory and CPU are closer and so is the bandwidth.
>
>
> - of course it's not faster than a 450MHz PII, but you figured that
> out.
>
> Casper
> --
> Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
> to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
> Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
> be fiction rather than truth.
"Fredrick Gethers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:BInY4.5623$%11.46570@news02...
> SunflowerI am very much a newbie to Sun machines.
>
> I am in the process of looking for a Sun sparc 1, 5, 10, 20 or some other
> Sun machine that will not be too expensive to purchase used.
>
> I want the machine to include an internal CDROM and floppy.
>
> This machine will be used to run Mandrake Linux 7.0.
>
> The problem is that when it comes to Intel Machines I know exactly what I
> need as far as system requirements (Graphic Card Memory, RAM, Harddrive
> size, CDROM speed). When I look at the Sun boxes I'm not sure what to
look
> for as the RAM, CPU Speed and Harddrives seem very small.
>
> I saw the following and would like to know if this is true:
>
> **********************************************
> Sun Sparc Classic, 50MHz sun4m archtecture, 96mb RAM (worth $30*6, $180 by
> itself), 2.1gb harddrive, Solaris 2.7 desktop with disks and manual and
> preloaded, guaranteed against DOA (this is a currently working system
setup
> as my mail server), optional 20" sun monitor in new condition add $175,
> optional type 5 keyboard and mouse add $55). This Sun workstation is
> basically a Sparc 10 with different cache, and most Sparc 10's are only
> 30MHz, this one is 50MHz (faster than an Intel Pentium II 450 running
> Windows 95, really, and NO crashes to boot). The only reason I am selling
> this is because I am upgrading to an Ultra computer and need some cash.
> **********************************************
>
> Also, is there a way to compare Sun performance numbers to Intel.
>
>
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From: Rob32@nospam
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 31 May 2000 02:17:32 -0700
In article <8h2dc6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>Please learn how to write good English first before you criticize others.
>
>Jim
Jim; peter seems to be some moron who thinks he knows something,
when in fact he is clueless. I would just ignore the kid.
Rob
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From: Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Support for Ultra 160
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:41:10 +0800
Does Linux have the driver for Adaptec Ultra 3 SCSI Card, such as 29160
/ 29160N? Is there any distribution of Linux that comes with the driver
for the SCSI card?
Jimmy
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 31 May 2000 10:48:26 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Rob32@nospam wrote:
: In article <8h2dc6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
:
:>Please learn how to write good English first before you criticize others.
:>
:>Jim
: Jim; peter seems to be some moron who thinks he knows something,
: when in fact he is clueless. I would just ignore the kid.
: Rob
Is this person REALLY posting under all these pseudonyms! I wouldn't
mind, but I can't help feeling that he really must be posting from
inside some sort of medical tratment center. The symptoms are clear:
mechanical insult based on the last phrase extracted from a posting,
with no reference to any other part.
My my my.
Peter (really)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 31 May 2000 10:54:43 GMT
In article <8h2qlq$t60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc Rob32@nospam wrote:
: : In article <8h2dc6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
: :>Please learn how to write good English first before you criticize
others.
: :>Jim
: : Jim; peter seems to be some moron who thinks he knows something,
: : when in fact he is clueless. I would just ignore the kid.
: : Rob
: Is this person REALLY posting under all these pseudonyms! I wouldn't
Out of mild interest, I took a look at a few of the headers. All these
Eliza-like posts seem to come from the same source, irrespective of the sig:
Path: news.inf.uc3m.es!news-2.rediris.es!news.rediris.es!news-ge.switch.ch!
bignews.mediaways.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!
diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!152.163.239.129!
portc01.blue.aol.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!
extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!drn
The last bit is the source.
I tried to avoid saying "this person needs help". Instead I'll suggest
he needs a few core files sent his way, after a quick search for his
real address on deja!
Peter
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From: eljayh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows98 FAT32 partition
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:05:27 +0800
"Andrew E. Schulman" wrote:
> > > Is there a way to mount a FAT32 partition and maintain the long file names?
> >
> > File type should be vfat, not umsdos
>
> Unfortunately what you then give up is the ability to set file
> permissions. I'm not sure why, but apparently there's not yet a FAT
> file system type that allows both long file names and file permissions.
> If there were one I'd be glad to use it.
My mistake, I thought he asked about long file names, not file permissions. Silly
me.
Regards
LJH
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:48:19 +0200
From: "MAP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partition table lost
I have a linux hard drive with 4 partitions, but unbeliavably my partition
table gone away.
There is any way to restore it, and restore all my data??
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition table lost
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 23:15:42 +1200
MAP wrote:
>
> I have a linux hard drive with 4 partitions, but unbeliavably my partition
> table gone away.
>
> There is any way to restore it, and restore all my data??
Using fdisk or another partition manager to recreate the partitions from
the copy of the partition table you have printed out and kept somewhere
for just this eventuality.
You DID make a hard copy of the output of fdisk -l , didn't you, when
you created the partitions?
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: partition table lost
Date: 31 May 2000 11:16:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 31 May 2000 09:48:19 +0200, MAP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a linux hard drive with 4 partitions, but unbeliavably my partition
> table gone away.
>
> There is any way to restore it, and restore all my data??
>
If you have saved the partition info (fdisk -i /dev/hd? i believe) then there
should be a good way to restore the partitions. I don't know exactly how, but
try to find some howto's, or maybe someone can tell you.
I had something similar too a few years ago with a fat32 partition. I used the
program 'tiramisu' (no no, not the food :-) to recover almost 80%, really good.
But I don't know if there is an ext2 version available too, try searching the
net.
good luck!
Martin
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Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
1:10pm up 2 days, 9:12, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.07
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Jean-Sebastien Morisset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Backing up to CDRW
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:20:14 -0400
I'd like to backup my Linux box onto CD. I first have to create 650MB files.
I thought of using tar or cpio (followed by pgp and gzip) and then splitting
the files, but my kernel (2.2.14) has a 2GB file size limit. I have to find
a way to backup while creating 650MB files at the same time.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
js.
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Personal Homepage <http://www.jsmoriss.dyndns.org/>
UNIX, Internet, Homebrewing, Cigars, PCS, CP2020 and other Fun Stuff...
This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: partition table lost
Date: 31 May 2000 11:19:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 31 May 2000 23:15:42 +1200, muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Using fdisk or another partition manager to recreate the partitions from
> the copy of the partition table you have printed out and kept somewhere
> for just this eventuality.
> You DID make a hard copy of the output of fdisk -l , didn't you, when
> you created the partitions?
>
That's the way I was talking about in my earlier posting.. so use the -l
instead of my -i (was just guessing, but wanted to give some help at least)
.. but i also think the original poster didn't make a copy of it :-)
so for future: after an install / repartition, just make a boot disk and
put a copy of the 'fdisk -l /dev/hd?' onto the boot disk..
Martin
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
1:10pm up 2 days, 9:12, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.07
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Apache/php/mysql building everything for Linux?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:30:04 GMT
Check: "http://www.e-gineer.com/instructions/"
-YamYam.
Ken Williams wrote:
>
>
> Can any one point me towards some newer web pages that outline compiling the
> following together:
>
> apache 1.3.12
> php 4.0.0
> modssl 2.6.4
> openssl 0.9.5
> gd 1.3
> mysql 3.22.32
>
> Thanks.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Arnaud Kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition table lost
Date: 31 May 2000 11:58:00 GMT
MAP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a linux hard drive with 4 partitions, but unbeliavably my partition
> table gone away.
> There is any way to restore it, and restore all my data??
Yes there is. A while back i made the mistake of doing a dd to hda instead
of fd0 and lost my partition table. This was a stupid thing to do and even
more stupid was to have an incomplete (read useless) backup of my partition
table info. I got help from a guy (don't remember his name) who sent me a c
program that can retrieve partition information by scanning the entire disk.
For me this worked perfectly. I just used fdisk a filled in the paramters
given by the program and got my data back again.
If you like I can email a copy of this program to you.
Grt,
Arnaud.
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From: Brett Rosselle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't Mount 6GB FAT32
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:15:18 -0500
Error is wring FS type, bad option, bad superblock, on /dev/hda1, or too
many mounted file systems. FDISK reports ID c, Win95 FAT32 (LBA) on the
6GB drive.
On the 1.6 GB FAT32 drive that I can mount, FDISK reports ID c Win95 FAT32
(LBA). They appear to be the same type.
I am using Mandrake 7.0, kernel version 2.2.14.
Thanks,
Brett
"Lonni J. Friedman" wrote:
> Kinda hard for anyone to help when you fail to state what is wrong.
> Error msgs would be nice.
>
> Brett Rosselle wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can anyone tell me why I can not mount my 6GB FAT32 drive, but I can
> > mount my 1.6 GB FAT32 drive. I'm not a newbie. I know all about the
> > FSTAB/MOUNT parameters. This is really bizarre, unless there is some
> > size/cylinder limitation that I am unaware of, or there are differences
> > between Win95/FAT32 and Win98/FAT32.
> >
> > Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 06:40:46 -0600
From: "Walter L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,alt.linux
Subject: Kernel Building Question
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Good Morning
Kernel building isn't the mysterious thing it used to be for me.
However, there are some curiosities that crop up now and
again and this is one of them.
I have recently built a new kernel to include my 3C905B
network card and exclude the IDE stuff as I am now all
SCSI. I get the following message during boot up:
Mounting /dev/pts.modprobe : modprobe ; can't locate module devpts
mount : fs type devpts not supported by kernel
Now I looked and looked for any reference to a devpts in my
kernel setup, especially the "file system" part and have come
up empty. I have tried different thing in the kernel setup and
get the same results.
Is there anyone out there that knows what this is? I'm baffled
I am on kernel version 2.2.13 (SuSE 6.3) on a 450mhz K6-2
I am now all SCSI as far as HDs are concerned. I don't supposed
this is related to the IDE stuff is it?
Any way, Thanks in advance
Walt in Colorado
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Good Morning
<p>Kernel building isn't the mysterious thing it used to be for me.
<br>However, there are some curiosities that crop up now and
<br>again and this is one of them.
<p>I have recently built a new kernel to include my 3C905B
<br>network card and exclude the IDE stuff as I am now all
<br>SCSI. I get the following message during boot up:
<p><font color="#FF0000">Mounting /dev/pts.modprobe : modprobe ; can't
locate module devpts</font>
<br><font color="#FF0000">mount : fs type devpts not supported by kernel</font><font
color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">Now I looked and looked for any reference to a
</font><font color="#FF0000">devpts</font><font color="#000000"> in my</font>
<br><font color="#000000">kernel setup, especially the "file system" part
and have come</font>
<br><font color="#000000">up empty. I have tried different thing in the
kernel setup and</font>
<br><font color="#000000">get the same results.</font><font color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">Is there anyone out there that knows what this
is? I'm baffled</font><font color="#000000"></font>
<p><font color="#000000">I am on kernel version 2.2.13 (SuSE 6.3) on a
450mhz K6-2</font>
<br><font color="#000000">I am now all SCSI as far as HDs are concerned.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 06:59:14 -0600
From: "Walter L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual Boot S.u.s.e. Linux and NT4.0 (need Help)
muzh wrote:
> bluto wrote:
> >
> > over the weekend installed a new motherboard (ASUS p3v133)
> > I have two seperate harddrives
> > 1 18.0G with 9G used for S.u.s.e Linux
> > 1 4.3G already setup with NT4.0
> >
> > Linux boots flawlessly
> > when I try to boot NT it hangs andthe only error is:
> >
> > "could not load NTLDR"
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > Is there something special needed to be done in order to load the NT?
> >
> > Will Lilo be able to start the NT or will I have to use the NT
> > bootloader?
> >
> > Linux is my primary system i just want to learn a little bit about NT
> > to expand my horizon..
> >
> > any help is appreciated or point me to a site.
> >
> > thanks
> > bluto
>
> I had a similar problem once which turned out to be an interrupt
> conflict on the motherboard. It didn't bother Linux at all, but sure as
> hell stopped Windows booting -- even from a floppy!!
> Perhaps you should ask in a Macrosh*t newsgroup.
>
> --
> Never trust a man in a suit --
> cll
Greetings
By the sounds of things you are trying to NT is looking for it's loader.
I tried this once, NT and Linux, and found I had to load Linux after NT
and make do an entry in lilo for the "Mocrosoft Stuff". It would boot
to lilo first, If I selected the "Microsoft Stuff" from lilo it would then
proceed
to the NTloader next from which I could boot NT. It was a delicate balance
and took a while to figure out and get set up, so be patient.
Walt in Colorado
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ide-scsi - How ignore IDE Zip drive?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:41:42 +0100
Reply-To: no_replyto@oursite
This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)
On Thu, 25 May 2000 23:13:13 -0400, Ken Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have an IDE CDRW and am using the ide-scsi kernel module so that the
>cdrecord command can access the CDRW (using the SCSI interface) and
>"burn" CD's. This works well. However, the ide-scsi module also grabs
>my IDE zip drive. I do not want this because the SCSI translation
>provided by the ide-scsi module does not support the eject function. Is
>there a way to get the ide-scsi module to ignore my IDE zip drive short
>of changing the source code and recompiling?
I have a similar setup, I need to use
append="hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy"
in /etc/lilo.conf The first two entries are the CDROM/CDRW drives - hdd
is the ZIP drive, and "ide-floppy" will make sure that SCSI doesn't
"grab it". Note, of course, that you'll need to have the IDE-Floppy
support compiled into your kernel (don't know if it works as a module or
not, as I haven't tried it).
>...
><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
><html>
>I have an IDE CDRW and am using the ide-scsi kernel module so that the
>cdrecord command can access the CDRW (using the SCSI interface) and "burn"
>CD's. This works well. However, the ide-scsi module also
>...
This is really anti-social - please re-configure your newsreader so that
it doesn't send plain text _and_ HTML - plain text will suffice for Usenet.
Dave.
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Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
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