Linux-Misc Digest #748, Volume #19 Mon, 5 Apr 99 06:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: New Travan Tape Drive was: Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel Port Support. (Philip
Hirschhorn)
Re: Ethernet Drvice Trouble (Philip Hirschhorn)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" ("G. Sumner Hayes")
Re: gcc problem (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Modifying the path (Easy quest) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Michael Powe)
UID&GID Problems over NFS (Jacko)
Re: C++ Heeeelp!!!! (Michael Powe)
Re: Help! FCS problems with PPP Conection to Net (Bob Wightman)
Frame buffer device "gui" (James Hague)
Re: RealPlayer 5.0 under RedHat 5.2 -- problems ("Karsten M. Self")
Re: What is the best Linux to install? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: StarOffice 5.0 Filter Update? (James Stafford)
Re: /tmp screws up printing if moved? (Floyd Davidson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hirschhorn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: New Travan Tape Drive was: Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel Port Support.
Date: 5 Apr 1999 06:55:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Okay, no takers on this one. Well, I figured it was going to come down to
: buying a new tape drive. I want one that will use my current TR-3 and TR-3
: Extra tapes, so I am thinking of maybe getting a Travan 4 drive.
: Can someone recommend a Travan Drive, which Kernel 2.2.x has sourced-in
: drivers for, that I can compile directly into the kernel, and that runs
: smoothly, stably, and reliably in a 100% i386 Linux environement.
I've got a Seagate TapeStor 8000 (it's TR-4), and it's always worked
wonderfully since kernel 1.something (I'm currently on 2.0.36). I've
got the IDE version, but it also comes as a scsi.
Phil
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Philip Hirschhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hirschhorn)
Subject: Re: Ethernet Drvice Trouble
Date: 5 Apr 1999 06:59:51 GMT
Matthew Jochum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: I'm running RedHat 5.2 on a Gateway P166, with a 3COM
: etherlink III adapter.
: When I install Linux the network sets up fine. However,
: with in 24 hours of configuring the
: NIS the eth0 device file dissapears. when I do an ifconfig,
: it only shows the loopback device.
: What is causing this, and how do I get my device back?
: Also, there is a ifcfg-eth0 file in
: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.
: And all the information in it is correct.
I don't know for sure that this is relevant, but I recall some old
postings about some 3COM cards working better if you use the utility
disk that came with them to switch them out of PlugNPray mode, and
just choose the IRQ, I/O, and transciver type (coax, twisted pair). I
think the proglem was something to do with the driver not being good
at autodetecting the transceiver in use, or something like that, and
after a period of inactivity, trying to use the wrong transceiver.
Anyway, can't hurt to try it.
Phil
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Philip Hirschhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "G. Sumner Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 04:51:13 -0400
"Christopher B. Browne" wrote:
>
> On 3 Apr 1999 02:27:44 GMT, Jeremy Crabtree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> >Christopher B. Browne allegedly wrote:
> >>-> Doubtless there are some Grail partisans...
> >
> >Is that the awful beast written in TCL/Tk ?
>
> I'm not aware of any "awful beasts written in TCL/Tk;" Grail is one of
> the longstanding sample applications written in Python.
python/tkinter -- i.e., it uses Tk.
tkwww and surfit were both tcl/tk web browsers that sucked. I think
one was just a rename and modification of the other. Development
seems nonexistant these days, thank god.
grail supports python applets. At least one of the tcl ones supported
tcl applets, and there's the safeTCL plugin for Netscape.
arena, amaya, grail, surfit, tkwww, opera, netscape, chimera, xmosaic,
netscape, lynx, emacs-w3, kfm, gnome-helper, gzilla, IE, cello,
spry mosaic, redbaron, visage-web
Any others worth mentioning?
--Sumner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: gcc problem
Date: 5 Apr 1999 02:05:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lari Baruh wrote:
> can anyone help me out with the c++ compiler. When i try to compile
> programs using c++ i get the following error.
>
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler
> cannot create executables.
Usually "configure" creates a helpful file called "config.log".
What is at its end?
> i reinstalled all the gcc RPM's for redhat including the gcc++ package
> along with the g++ and stdc++ libraries.
Common reasons include failure to install *-development packages or
kernel header files.
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Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Modifying the path (Easy quest)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:14:37 GMT
In article <KuWN2.974$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"No Spam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can we add something to the path. I installed java and I would like all
> my users to be able to use it without having to go to /usr/local/jdk117...
>
> What I am doing is: I have a .profile file for every user with the path
> modified there, but what if I have a 100 users (i don't).
>
> I tried /etc/ld.so.conf, but doesn't work.
>
> On the other hand, what if I want only certain groups with groupid 200 for
> example to access to that directory.
>
> Thanks
>
/etc/profile
Place appropriate shell commands in it.
Perry
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 05 Apr 1999 01:06:00 -0700
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>>>>> "Jeremiah" == Jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jeremiah> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
Jeremiah> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
>>> ? Sure you can... I do it all the time... select the
>>> section with the left button, paste with the middle button.
>> However, this is a fix. I can't do it on my slackware box & I
>> couldn't do it on my Really Horrible box, either.
Jeremiah> I could do it out of the box on my RH5.2 setup, and I
Jeremiah> could do it on my ancient Slackware (kernel 1.2.13
Jeremiah> setup).
So? I couldn't do it on RH 4.2 or 5.1 and I can't do it on Slack
3.5. I know I probably could if I wanted to screw around with
the netscrape-app file, but I don't right now. I have too many other
irons burning. Also, I dislike netscrape so much I don't even like to
think about working on it.
mp
powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
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"Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacko)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: UID&GID Problems over NFS
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:09:39 GMT
Hi All
I have a little problem here, that is driving me mad.
I have two Redhat 5.2 systems. One serves the home directories to the
other.
When I log in as a user on the client system. I get permission denied
when touching a file in the nfs mounted home directory.
Its fine when I login on the server as the same user and do the same
thing (home directory is local now, of course).
I tried giving the directory world write permissions. I can then
touch a file as the same user, but the created file has a UID & GID of
65534.65534. I could understand this for root in an nfs mounted
partition, but not as a user that exists on both systems with the same
UID & GID (501.100). 'id' reports correctly for the user on both
systems.
I do not have mapall->nobody set in /etc/exports.
This all worked fine with RH 5.1.
I'm puzzled. Mind you I'm probably just doing something dumb!!
Thanks in advance.
--
So long and thanks for all the fish ...
-= Jamie Jackson =-
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: C++ Heeeelp!!!!
Date: 05 Apr 1999 01:22:35 -0700
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>>>>> "David" == David M Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> On 01 Apr 1999 22:24:55 -0800, Michael Powe
David> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I didn't buy it because it was cloned from Oualline's also
>> excellent <Practical C Programming>. And I do mean `cloned,'
>> whole sections of the book are identical to PCP with the
>> exception of having `C++' substituted for `C.' That kind of
>> annoyed me.
David> It's not a good book for learning modern C++ IMO. I'd want
David> a book that went deeper into OO concepts and covered the
David> STL. PC++P is pretty much a C++-as-a-better-C type book.
David> Not one of O'Reilly's winners IMO.
Maybe good for starting out, I don't know. I thought PCP was a good
book, despite some occasionally huge typos. Now that I'm actually
taking a C-Prog course, I find I still look at it for clues (and I
need many!).
David> I got _C++ for Professional Programmers with PC and UNIX
David> applications_ by Blaha for a C++ course (the unix stuff is
David> a chapter on IPC). It's a pretty good, easy to read
David> introduction, and it's coverage is fairly modern (has a
David> chapter on STL.) ACCU has a review:
Someday I may go back and finish C++; I did one course at the local
college before switching to C. I like C. If it doesn't kill me
first, I may learn it.
mp
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From: Bob Wightman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.dial-up
Subject: Re: Help! FCS problems with PPP Conection to Net
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:42:00 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Lopp
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
[snip]
The all bits 7 set to 0 means that your ISP is not expecting you to
negotiate PPP at this point and that you should log on first. Go to the
following URL for help:
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
The page leads you through all the steps needed to get up and running
with PPP.
HTH
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Bob Wightman
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:57:54 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Hague)
Subject: Frame buffer device "gui"
I've found that virtual consoles and GPM provide me with about 60% of what
I use xwindows for. If it were possible to switch graphical apps (like a
web browser besides Lynx) in a similar way, with a consistent method of
cutting and pasting between them, then that would be close to my ideal
(aside from maybe a little interface sugar).
It seems with frame buffer devices under 2.2, we're close to having
something like this. Has anyone worked on any graphical applications that
would fit into this environment, or given any thought to this kind of
interface? It just seems so silly to have little windows scattered all
over a 17" monitor :)
--
James Hague
The Giant List of Classic Game Programmers
http://www.dadgum.com/giantlist
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From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 under RedHat 5.2 -- problems
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:43:20 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bogdan Bucicovschi wrote:
>
> Have you LD_PRELOAD the patch?
> You should have the rvplayer executable in your path as a script with
> something like:
>
> #/bin/sh
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/rvplayer"
> export LD_PRELOAD="/usr/local/rvplayer/open.so"
> /usr/local/rvplayer/rvplayer $*
Yep. Story's a little different as I'm working out of a download
directory, but this doesn't have any effect:
[karsten@localhost rpopen]$ pwd
/data/downloads/RealNetworks/rpopen
[karsten@localhost rpopen]$ ls
GPL Makefile munge open.c open.o open.so rplayer
rvplayer
[karsten@localhost rpopen]$ cat munge
#!/bin/bash
cp /usr/bin/rvplayer .
dd if=/dev/zero of=./rvplayer bs=1 count=1 seek=657586 conv=notrunc
dd if=/dev/zero of=./rvplayer bs=1 count=1 seek=665986 conv=notrunc
dd if=/dev/zero of=./rvplayer bs=1 count=1 seek=702554 conv=notrunc
../rplayer /usr/lib/rvplayer/welcome.rm
[karsten@localhost rpopen]$ cat rplayer
#!/bin/ash
dir=/usr/lib/Real
preloadDir=/data/downloads/RealNetworks/rpopen
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$dir
export LD_PRELOAD=$preloadDir/open.so
exec ./rvplayer $*
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What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
Welchen Teil von "Gestalt" verstehen Sie nicht?
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2:03am up 7 min, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.07
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:59:56 GMT
It all depends on your taste and what do u expect out of it. I've tried
RH(actually ran it for a year), Slack(first and last choice) and others. If
you a lazy person(like me) you'd probably want to start with RH. But as you
will start to want more out of your linux box the best choice will be Slack
even if you lazy and like automated stuff like RH it will actually take more
time on RH cuz of unnecessery complexity. We'r running 12000 clients network
all on slack and it runs grate.
Anyways what i suggest is try Slack and RH paly around with both and then
choose the one u like. Actually it doesnt matter wich one you start with,
you'll find the one you want once u get more familliar with Linux, any linux
is still linux.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to install the newest and the best linux on
> 100+ workstation. What would be the best one to choose
> in terms of standard, support, and setup?
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks in advance
> Richard
>
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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0 Filter Update?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:19:47 -0700
Jeffery Cann wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> I downloaded Star Office 5.0 about 5 months ago. It is a good office suite,
> but I disagree with their 'everything in one place' motto. IMHO this leads
> to code bloat as I end up only wanting to use a single program, like the word
> processor and end up loading the whole damn thing.
>
> The main reason I tried SO is for the import/export of MS Office documents.
> As any business users have noted, once a company "standardizes" on MS Office,
> it is really tough to exchange documents unless you use MS Office. (Thanks,
> Bill!)
>
> SO 5.0 import/exports simple MS Office documents, but the formatting of
> complicated ones is not good. I realize that the SO folks have to reverse
> engineer the documents because of the proprietary - upgrade every 2 years -
> mentality of MS Office.
>
> Here's my question: Has anyone downloaded the new Star Office 5.0 Filter
> Update? Star Division claims that they have "greatly improved" import/export
> filters for MS Office documents. Before I waste more time on this (its a 70
> MB download), I wanted some feedback. If you have downloaded the filter
> update, has it improved?
>
> Thanks.
> Jeff
>
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I just got he upgrade CD. I don't have much contact with MS stuff, I use Star
Office to do most of my home work with. But for $14.00 I think I got a real good
deal. It came with a lot of fonts and graphics.
jamess
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: /tmp screws up printing if moved?
Date: 5 Apr 1999 08:37:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Obviously you've fogotten about virtual memory and disk caching under
>> Linux.
>
>Nope.
You have misunderstood it.
>> Basically what happens is that any RAM which is not being used
>> for the kernel, applications and data is used as disk cache. Under this
>> situation it is possible to create a file, write to it and then delete
>> it without that file EVER being written to disk. So why do you need
>> use a RAM disk for /tmp???
>
>I've heard this time and time again but the fact is that something written
>to disk accesses the disk in a matter of a couple seconds or so usually,
>but with temporary files that don't need to be written to disk the drive
>will never get accessed....pretty simple really. In some applications
>there are files that get accessed a alot and a ram drive gives noticable
>improvement. Disk access is notably decreased. I've also thought of
>increasing the flush time.
That is all great if you are using a laptop and want to conserve
battery!
On a desktop it doesn't make sense at all. The fact that it
eventually gets written to disk is of no importance at all. The
kernel does that at its leisure, and in the process does not
slow down your application.
In another article you also had more questions about using /var/tmp.
Make /tmp a symlink to /var/tmp, not the other way around.
For someone learning about how this all works, one of the things
to consider is, if using a RAMDISK was really so useful, given
how easy it is to do you would expect that it would be pretty
standard. It isn't, and there is a good reason. Disk caching
works much better and gives you the same benefits, plus it is
automatic and dynamically adjusts to both the amount of RAM you
have and to the work load the machine has.
Floyd
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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPDATED Mar 20, North Slope images: <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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