Linux-Misc Digest #748, Volume #21 Fri, 10 Sep 99 06:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: module-info file in RH 6 /boot - where does it come from? (Leolo)
Re: Apache ~ user directories? ("Daniel P. Gelinske")
Re: Should I use Linux or Windows? (Richard Steiner)
Re: Problems with Sendmail (Peter T. Breuer)
YALNQ: yet another linux noobee question (the billionth typing monkey)
Re: Red Hat 6.0 and Cablle Modem Internet Connection. (Leolo)
Looking for the kernel... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
sound problem - mpu_irq (letdown)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution ("Paul E. Bell")
KDE kppp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Anonymous ftp home directory contents (Chris Pott)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Jon Skeet)
Re: CPU utilization breakdown (geoff)
Linux System Labs (Martin McCormick)
URGENT - tar question (Stephen Waite)
Re: Current Linux Users (Robert Kiesling)
Re: XF86Config problems (trying to set monitor resolutions) ("shanks01")
Re: Should I use Linux or Windows? (William Wueppelmann)
"autoexec.bat"-type service in Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Should I use Linux or Windows? (William Wueppelmann)
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:38:53 -0400
From: Leolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: module-info file in RH 6 /boot - where does it come from?
Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> I note that there is a module-info link pointing to
> module-info-2.2.5-22 in my /boot directory.
>
> Anyone know how much it matters, I'm in the process of trying out
> 2.2.12 and I was wondering if this is important.
>
> I have the new kernel compiled, the modules are in the correct
> place, the System.map file is where it should be and I just need'
> to update lilo.conf and run lilo. Is this module-info file
> important, or do I just ignore it for now, it seems to be mainly
> text? I think the important file is modules.dep which is created
> by a call to depmod -a in one of the init scripts.
You can safely ignore that file. I know I've done so over many kernel
changes over the years. I'd be very interested in knowing how it's
generated, however.
-Philip
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From: "Daniel P. Gelinske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache ~ user directories?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:14:58 -0700
Allin Cottrell wrote:
> Gina wrote:
>
> > What's the term for having user directory web pages. I'd like to enable this
> > on my httpd Apache server (under linux). Ie:
> > http://www.binarycity.net/~tgreen/
>
> "locate httpd.conf"
> "grep public-html httpd.conf"
>
> change "public-html" (if you wish) to some other name,
> corresponding to the sub-directory of /home/tgreen that you
> want to be made available over the web.
I am having the same problems myself, but cant afford to put out the bucks for an
Apache book. I did the 'grep public-html httpd.conf' and nothing came up.
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Should I use Linux or Windows?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:01:38 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(William Wueppelmann) spake unto us, saying:
>In our last episode (Mon, 06 Sep 1999 16:15:26 -0500),
>the artist formerly known as Richard Steiner said:
>
>>If you're not aware of the benefits of using Linux at this point, then
>>it might not be a good idea for you to play with it.
>
>Then how will he learn the benefits?
One can learn a lot of useful information by reading and by talking to
others, not so?
Hands-on experience is a logical next step, but I would usually suggest
some reading/conversing activities before that is attempted.
>How many of us learned about Linux and came to appreciate it because we
>installed it and played around with it?
Point acknowledged. :-)
Possible counterpoint: how many of us were (1) technically literate and
(2) possessed of at least a rough idea about what we were getting into
with a Unix-like operating system before we did so?
Even though I'd never formally used a Unix flavor before I installed
Linux, I did have a certain amount of theoretical knowledge about it
from various courses in college (one of my OS design classes used both
UNIX/V7 and XENIX as case studies).
>>The care and feeding of a multi-user OS like Linux is somewhat more
>>complex than a single-user OS like Windows, and you will find almost
>>immediately that Linux will require a lot of learning (and unlearning)
>>on your part, at least if you want to use it safely and effectively.
>
>Which is why a dual-boot or spare computer approach is probably best.
Yup! :-)
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OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Yes, but did you read the REALLY fine print?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Problems with Sendmail
Date: 9 Sep 1999 16:22:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tony Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: All,
: Has anyone ever seen the error messages
: 'Bad Community'
: in /var/adm/messages from Sendmail.
This is an snmp error, not a smtp error! Sure you haven't got the
error message mixed up?
: an obvious pattern so I am thinking it may be some manner of
: network/routing problem.
If it's a sendmail error, grep the binary for it (I have and it's not
there). It only makes sense as snmp to me (simple network management proto).
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Peter
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From: the billionth typing monkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sci.seti
Subject: YALNQ: yet another linux noobee question
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:19:49 -0700
Hello all - delurking for a quickie Linux question...
I'm running RH5.2 on an old 486 just because and am wondering how do I
determine which of the three distributions of SETI@Home to run? What is
the difference between
setiathome-1_3_i386-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2_1.tar
setiathome-1_3_i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1.tar
setiathome-1_3_i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1-static.tar
My guess is these are versions dependant on different shared C libraries
but how do I go about finding out what lib(s) I have on my system?
mucho thankos in advanco
Kevin
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From: Leolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 and Cablle Modem Internet Connection.
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:35:36 -0400
John Silver wrote:
>
> My cable company is my internet provider.
> The name of my cable company is MediaOne.
> There is a problem:
> I have the IPs of the 2 DNS servers.
> But all other information is dynamic. Even Default Gateway is assigned each
> time and valid for next 24 hours or till next reset.
> Windows 98 is handle this situation.
> The "Red Hat Linux Unleashed" asks to enter the "IP Address Of My Machine"
> and the "IP Address Of My Gateway".
>
> Did somebody knows the solution?
Yes. Set your ethernet up as DHCP.
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should look like this :
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=yes
If you want more details, go read the dhcp-howto and cable modem howto
on www.linux-howto.com.
-Philip
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for the kernel...
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:17:58 GMT
This might be a stupid question, but (deep breath):
how can I locate the kernel so I can give LILO something to boot with?
I was mucking around with a perfectly functioning LILO configuration
under SuSE 6.1 and managed to delete the backup of the original
lilo.conf (duuuh ;-) ). Now I can't find the kernel location. According
to the SuSE manual it should be /boot/vmlinuz, but I'm darned if I can
find it there or anywhere else.
So: how can I run the kernel to ground? It must be in there somewhere,
but where?
Multidinous thanks in advance
Schablonski
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From: letdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound problem - mpu_irq
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:40:40 -0400
When I run sndconfig and select my sound card (I've also tried every
other one) and select the appropriate irq, dma, etc., it attempts to
play a test sound. I get this error:
The following error occurred running the modprobe program:
/lib/modules/preferred/misc/sb.o: symbol for parameter
mpu_irq not found
sound: Device or resource busy
I've tried every mpu irq available for every sound card. I've also
changed the other addresses and get the same error. I would really
appreciate any help because running Linux for 3 years with no sound is
not cool.
-ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Paul E. Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:28:24 -0500
Jon Skeet wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > It's not a case of knowing what it *actually* stands for - it's a case of
> > > knowing what you were talking about and knowing what almost everyone
> > > means when they say PC. You were clearly talking about IBM PC
> > > compatibles, otherwise your post wouldn't make any sense (for reasons
> > > given above). However, it wasn't clear that you realised that the
> > > problems you outlined were ones inherent in Windows, not in the
> > > architecture itself - that was my point.
> >
> > Yes, most of the problems I was talking about are inherent in Windows,
> > but some of them are inherent in the platform (Wintel, IBM PC (which it
> > is no longer even close to)).
>
> I don't understand your last sentence: what does "Wintel, IBM PC" mean in
> this case? I can't see how *any* of the flaws are inherent in the
> hardware (which is what "PC" describes in common parlance, certainly in
> linux newsgroups): they're *all* in the Windows part of "Wintel", and its
> predecessors.
>
> Wintel != IBM PC.
Well, as I said, albeit not very well, the Wintel platform (hardware and
software) is so far removed from the IBM PC that the parts (of the IBM
PC) that are there are a small part of the machine. Some of the
problems with the hardware and software _are_ due, in fact, to this
remaining IBM PC architecture.
Since graphics cards have been one of the topics of discussion, let's
look at these. Granted, the fact that Win9x is determined to hold as
it's basic screen mode (in the absence of a driver on the hard drive) is
640x480x256 colors, or even 640x480x16 colors. Why? Most computers
sold today have support for 800x600x64k colors or better, and, since
this is the minimum screen mode for viewing most web pages, it ought to
be the default minimum for a Wintel platform. It should have been
defined as such a long time ago, and graphics chip makers and computer
manufacturers should have been required a long time ago to include
support for at least the VESA 800x600 HiColor mode, with Win9x
defaulting to that as it's "safe" mode when no driver is present. Why
doesn't it? I don't know.
Since a blitter or DSP is not standard on _all_ graphics adapters, Win9x
cannot be written to take advantage of them in drawing it's UI
graphics. Again, an oversight on the part of the whole industry, not
just Microsoft.
Somehow, the minimum standards have to be raised to reflect the current
level of technology. The AmigaNG could very well do that, if it ever
gets out the door. It has the advantage of not having to carry along
with it bagage from the past, yet can pick up that bagage through
emulation. This is not a bad solution.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: KDE kppp
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:20:44 GMT
Hello out there
I have a problem using kppp
My ISP tells me that the IP- and the DNS adress is assigned by the
Server
In Win95 there is a option
"dynamic IP adress" and "DNS adress is assigned by the server"
My problem is I don't like Windows and I dont't want to use it.
So I tryed to use kppp but there's a problem:
It's possible to select dynamic IP Adress but i did not
find a option DNS adress is assigned by the server or something
like this.
Is it possible to set this anyway
Regards
Andreas
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From: Chris Pott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp home directory contents
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:18:28 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, B'ichela
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:08:32 -0700, Chris Pott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> >Is there any way to easily recreate the entire /home/ftp/ directory
> >tree?
> What you need to do is recompile your /home/ftp/bin tools as
> either static or copy your /lib to /home/ftp/lib.
...
> Now if you decide to go with the /lib idea. hers how I would
> go about it
> mkdir /home/ftp/lib
> cp -R /lib /home/ftp/lib
Indeed -- I will also. Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:24:09 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jon Skeet wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > > It's not a case of knowing what it *actually* stands for - it's a case of
> > > > knowing what you were talking about and knowing what almost everyone
> > > > means when they say PC. You were clearly talking about IBM PC
> > > > compatibles, otherwise your post wouldn't make any sense (for reasons
> > > > given above). However, it wasn't clear that you realised that the
> > > > problems you outlined were ones inherent in Windows, not in the
> > > > architecture itself - that was my point.
> > >
> > > Yes, most of the problems I was talking about are inherent in Windows,
> > > but some of them are inherent in the platform (Wintel, IBM PC (which it
> > > is no longer even close to)).
> >
> > I don't understand your last sentence: what does "Wintel, IBM PC" mean in
> > this case? I can't see how *any* of the flaws are inherent in the
> > hardware (which is what "PC" describes in common parlance, certainly in
> > linux newsgroups): they're *all* in the Windows part of "Wintel", and its
> > predecessors.
> >
> > Wintel != IBM PC.
>
> Well, as I said, albeit not very well, the Wintel platform (hardware and
> software) is so far removed from the IBM PC that the parts (of the IBM
> PC) that are there are a small part of the machine. Some of the
> problems with the hardware and software _are_ due, in fact, to this
> remaining IBM PC architecture.
Sorry, should have put "the flaws you mentioned" rather than "the flaws".
> Since graphics cards have been one of the topics of discussion, let's
> look at these. Granted, the fact that Win9x is determined to hold as
> it's basic screen mode (in the absence of a driver on the hard drive) is
> 640x480x256 colors, or even 640x480x16 colors. Why? Most computers
> sold today have support for 800x600x64k colors or better, and, since
> this is the minimum screen mode for viewing most web pages, it ought to
> be the default minimum for a Wintel platform. It should have been
> defined as such a long time ago, and graphics chip makers and computer
> manufacturers should have been required a long time ago to include
> support for at least the VESA 800x600 HiColor mode, with Win9x
> defaulting to that as it's "safe" mode when no driver is present. Why
> doesn't it? I don't know.
It's not exactly difficult to raise the resolution afterwards. Why break
backwards compatibility just for the sake of it?
> Since a blitter or DSP is not standard on _all_ graphics adapters, Win9x
> cannot be written to take advantage of them in drawing it's UI
> graphics. Again, an oversight on the part of the whole industry, not
> just Microsoft.
Actually, I think most graphics drivers *do* use acceleration when
possible. I don't know how it's done, but the fact that the advanced
driver properties of a card often allow you to change how much
acceleration *is* used certainly suggests that some is...
--
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http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU utilization breakdown
Date: 09 Sep 1999 19:04:12 GMT
The vast flood of Linux folks actually
volunteering useful information was
so deafening (take note: sarcasism)
that I will volunteer an answer to
my own question.
xosview 1.7.1 apparently breaks down
load on a per CPU basis. For some
reason, a fresh Redhat 6.0 install
did not install xosview, while an upgrade
did. An idiosynchrosy with Redhat
apparently.
While xosview works, I'd still be
interested in other utilities that
acheive the same functionality.
Have a nice day.
-geoff
geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Greetings,
: I'm looking for an app that will give me
: breakdown on processor utlization per
: CPU. I'm not looking for total percantage
: across both processors. I'm looking for
: something that will give me something along
: the lines of:
: SYS USR TOTAL
: CPU1: 30% 50% 86%
: CPU2: 22% 30% 60%
: Thanks for your time,
: -geoff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Linux System Labs
Date: 9 Sep 1999 19:12:31 GMT
Someone told me of a company they referred to as Linux System
Labs that sells a pack of CDROm's containing several Linux
distributions for around $15.00. I may have a mixup on the name
because I am having trouble locating them by that name. Does this
sound familiar to anybody?
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group
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From: Stephen Waite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: URGENT - tar question
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:22:07 -0400
I am running RH 5.1 on an Intel system.
There were many tar files on a scsi tape, however a small tar file was
written over the beginning of the tape thus corrupting a large tar file
that should have been the first tar file on the tape. I do not need to
recover this large tar file but I would like to have access to the rest
of the tar files on the tape.
The problem was created by these commands in a script:
cd dir1
tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/nst0
cd dir2
tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/nst0
.
.
.
cd dir25
tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/st0 <-------- NOTE the mistake here
cd dir26
tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/st0
Thank you for your time.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: Current Linux Users
Date: 10 Sep 1999 08:20:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 7 Sep 1999 21:43:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>It is of course impossible to get firm numbers, but the Linux counter
>>>http://counter.li.org/index.html
>>>may provide something like a lower bound and give an impression of the
>>>community evolution. However note that this estimate will be far too
>>>low.
>>
>>International Data Corporation is supposedly keeping track of
>>the number of Linux users. From the FAQ, their web site is
>>http://www.itresearch.com/.
>>
>>Robert Kiesling
>
>IDC only tracks the number of copies sold, i.e. the commercial success
>of RedHat, Caldera, etc. They do not have the means or intention to
>track the number of systems actually installed. There is a web site
>that publishes a periodic automated survey of Internet connected
>systems that shows Linux to have a slim lead over all Windows systems
>combined, but I don't have the URL here; it's bookmarked at work.
That's Harald Alvestrand's site; he's been trying to track the number
of Linux users for some time. And he notes the limitations in the
accuracy of the counter's numbers. The counter is now on Linux
International, http://counter.li.org/.
Robert Kiesling
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From: "shanks01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XF86Config problems (trying to set monitor resolutions)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:34:47 -0700
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
I dunno if this will work... I once had the same problem and resorted to a
re-install to solve it... not very satisfying I can tell you.
Anyway, try running xfs when you log in. I seem to recall someone hinting
that this problem has to do with the X font server not running, and I think
the xfs command issued by root gets it going again. Then I would try
starting up X by using the startx command. If that gets X running again,
shut down your X session, and try rebooting to see if the problem went away.
Also, from Elric_Red:
> Sound like the -nodaemon switch is missing
> Check the /etc/inittab file you should have a entry like this
> x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
The x5 line refers to run level 5, which means you go straight into the GUI
after boot up. Run level 3 means you stay in command line mode after boot.
Run level 1 is a single user command line mode used when things screw up and
you need to get in to repair the system. There are 6 commonly used run
levels, but these are the only three yoully need to know about at this
stage.
I sure hope at least some of this helps, and if you do find a fix (short of
re-installing) please let me know. I don't know how I caused that situation
on my system, and would like to have a tested solution should it happen
again!
Phil Shanks
Soltzer wrote in message <7r9fif$h6s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm a new linux user (as of this morning). I'm running Redhat 6.0 on a
>P2-333 Dell XPS w/ a Dell D1025HTX 17" monitor and a Diamond FireGL 1000
PRO
>OEM video card w/ 8 megs of memory (using the permedia chipset)
>
>I have both GNOME and KDE installed (both are latest versions)
>
>"According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (599) but seems to
>have been murdered mysteriously" ... sometimes the message would appear w/
a
>different # in parentheses.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Should I use Linux or Windows?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:28:39 GMT
In our last episode (6 Sep 1999 13:41:59 GMT),
the artist formerly known as George Vlahoulis said:
>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:22:43 +1000, Mark Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm just wondering if I should install Linux. I'll need to buy a new hard
>>disk to install it. Besides reliability and not being Microsoft, what are
>>the real benefits of it? There seems to be a shortage of software for it,
>>for example apps like Quicken, Bryce 3D, games and drivers for scanners and
>>LS-120 drives. All the windows programs that have an equivelant for Linux
>>are not as good (for example, Office 2000 vs StarOffice). I would like to
>>switch completely to Linux if the software support was better. So, should I
>>install linux?
>>
>>
>
>It all depends on one thing. do you like adventures? I like to think of it
>like that.
>
>1) linux is not as easy as some may say it is.
>2) Linux is not as hard as some may say it is.
Or, to put it another way, Linux itself, like any OS, is neither hard nor
easy. But it is easier to do some things with Linux than it is to do other
things, and people who say that Linux is easy or hard are often only
looking at some of those things.
Also, there is a difference between something being easy to do and a
particular individual knowing *how* to do that thing. Unfortunately, many
people do equate not knowing how to do something with that thing being hard
to do.
>3) you will learn more about computers and you can impress all your friends
Though some distributions are now to the point that if you really, really
don't want to learn anything, you don't have to; you just don't get to use
a lot of the more powerful features of the OS.
>5) can you get all the application you need on linux?
Or, more to the point, can you get the things done that you need to get
done. For example, a word processor is not the only way to prepare a
nice-looking formatted document, so you don't necessarily need a word
processor at all (much less MS Word) if what you really want is to be able
to produce a high-quality printed document.
Some people say that Linux doesn't have as many applications as Windows,
but this is largely untrue. It has different kinds of applications.
Moreover, Unix is based on the notion that you can build your own
applications from a standard suite of basic components.
>8) want and need are not the same thing. dont say no 'cos you dont have the
> amusing(ahem annoying) paperclip or something like that.
In fact, the lack of a paperclip might be reason enough to switch... 8-P
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "autoexec.bat"-type service in Linux?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:42:46 GMT
An ignorant newbie writes:
I have been overcome by the desire to regale all users of my Linux
system with a welcome text which is to be created by a Perl-script
and which will change daily.
How can I ensure that the script is called up every time a user logs on?
Under M$-DrOS it would be simply a case of inserting the command in
AUTOEXEC.BAT . (Not a very good analogy I know, but it's the best I've
got). What would be the "equivalent" procedure with Linux?
Yours in anticipatory gratitude
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Should I use Linux or Windows?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:28:41 GMT
In our last episode (Mon, 06 Sep 1999 16:15:26 -0500),
the artist formerly known as Richard Steiner said:
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Mark Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>I'm just wondering if I should install Linux. I'll need to buy a new hard
>>disk to install it. Besides reliability and not being Microsoft, what are
>>the real benefits of it?
>
>If you're not aware of the benefits of using Linux at this point, then
>it might not be a good idea for you to play with it.
Then how will he learn the benefits?
How many of us learned about Linux and came to appreciate it because we
installed it and played around with it?
>The care and feeding of a multi-user OS like Linux is somewhat more
>complex than a single-user OS like Windows, and you will find almost
>immediately that Linux will require a lot of learning (and unlearning)
>on your part, at least if you want to use it safely and effectively.
Which is why a dual-boot or spare computer approach is probably best. You
have a Linux sandbox to play in while you still can go back to Windows to
do your `real work.' As you become more and more comfortable with Linux,
you can start trying to tackle some of the things you do on Windows (like
dialup networking and Web browsing, for example) on Linux and in the Linux
way. That way, you can always fall back on Windows, so there is no need to
panic or to feel rushed -- you can treat Linux as a learning experience and
explore an alternative approach to computing, while still having Windows to
go back to if you can't figure out how to do something at this moment.
If you stick with Linux, over time you will find that you can do all you
did under Windows and more, and may eventually remove Windows from your
system. After all, one does not quit smoking, heroin or other bad habits
cold turkey -- Windows is the same :->
>In a nutshell, Linux is a free Unix-like operating system. It's very
>useful for a number of tasks, and can certainly be used as a desktop OS
>in lieu of Windows, but if you're expecting that Linux is some sort of
>drop-in Windows replacement, you mgiht end up being disappointed.
I'll agree with that. I wouldn't recommend Linux to any Windows user who
has decided that the Windows way is the right way. Linux isn't just
Windows but more stable or less expensive; it's a different way of doing
things.
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