Linux-Misc Digest #755, Volume #19                Tue, 6 Apr 99 00:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Sighold and sigrelse? (Stephen Morgana)
  Re: Where are the config options for RAID? (root)
  Re: Who is connected to my system (Ben Short)
  Re: Proprietary Linux -- End Of Open Source Software! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: timezone and daylight savings problem (Tony J. Podrasky)
  Re: Token Ring ("Selious")
  Simple Redundancy/Failover? (Sean Watkins)
  Re: Groupware on Linux ... ? (Don Heffernan)
  Gaussian 94 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RCS problem over NFS (Paul Colvert)
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Stuart Jeffrey)
  Re: backup .tgz file > 2gb (Henry)
  Re: [Q] 'Do' key from xterm? ("T.E.Dickey")
  modules (yan seiner)
  Help needed for my all kinds of "terminal" running on DataExpert DSV5357 Card ("Bill 
Chen")
  mt forward wont work (David Johnson)
  Re: FrontPage extensions installation - what's it doing? (Todd Knarr)
  Re: Overclocking was: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Thomas 
Keats)
  need help installing dmsdos ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? (Todd Knarr)
  Re: www.thelinuxstore.com (whew!) (Walter Strong)
  Re: Solaris binaries compatibility (Kalthak)

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From: Stephen Morgana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sighold and sigrelse?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:12:26 GMT

In Solaris there are two functions, sighold and sigrelse, to hold a given
signal,
and to allow a given signal to pass.  These functions do not seem to be
available under Linux. Are there equivalent functions available?

(note a previous poster posted the same question to this newsgroup back in
october 1998 and got directed to "man 7 signal", unfortunately that is just a
list of possible signals, not signal functions.)

Stephen

Stephen
http://homepages.infoseek.com/~scm2000

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Subject: Re: Where are the config options for RAID?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:12:11 GMT

Jun,

If you compiled MD into your kernel, that's only half the battle.
You next need to get the latest RAID tools...

(from Kernel compile help)

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD:

This driver lets you combine several hard disk partitions into one
logical block device. This can be used to simply append one
partition to another one or to combine several redundant   
hard disks to a RAID1/4/5 device so as to provide protection against
hard disk failures. This is called "Software RAID" since the
combining of the partitions is done by the kernel. "Hardware RAID"
means that the combining is done by a dedicated controller; if you
have such a controller, you do not need to say Y here.

More information about Software RAID on Linux is contained in the
Software-RAID mini-HOWTO, available via FTP (user: anonymous) from
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini. There you will also
learn where to get the supporting user space utilities raidtools.

use mdconfig to set up the array, mounting tools and fun accessories
are included.

Take care, Art...

On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:55:15 -0500, Humphrey Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>After installed kernel 2.2.3, I ran "make xconfig" (also config and
>menuconfig), no
>where raid is appeared, even though I did patch raid0145. I then
>compiled the kernel,
>it boot up OK, but not RAID support. Please help me.
>
>Jun
>


-- 
Arthur F. Tyde III, CEO
Linuxcare, Inc.
415-505-6135 tel, 415-701-7457 fax
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.linuxcare.com

Linuxcare. At the center of Linux.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: Who is connected to my system
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:59:08 +1000

In article <35aO2.1119$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi,
>   How do I know who is currently connected to my computer? FTP, Apache, telnet,..
> I know how to do that after they have left, but I would like to know that at 
> the same moment.
> 
> I usually check all the files at /var/lib/apache/var/log
> I also do cat /proc/net/
> I check all what is there     tcp, udp,sockstat,
> 
> but it doesn't tell any useful information, just addresses.
> Thanks
> 
--
You could try netstat -a -n , but that will only show hostnames too. 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-
Ben Short                mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shortboy Productions     http://www.shortboy.ddns.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Proprietary Linux -- End Of Open Source Software!
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:52:54 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Gerard Motola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mark S. Bilk" wrote:
> >
> > <LI><a
href="http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/feature/1999/04/01feature.html">Salon
21st | Money talks -- open source walks</a>
> >
> >    Money talks -- Open source walks
> >    Plans for new LinuxSoft venture map
> >    new business model for "free" software.
> >
> >    SALON STAFF REPORT | In a move sure to send shock waves through the
> >    free software/open-source community, Linus Torvalds, creator of the
> >    Linux operating system, announced today that he is founding LinuxSoft,
> >    a new company that will specialize in selling "enhanced" proprietary
> >    versions of Linux.
> >
> >    LinuxSoft will be a joint venture between leading Linux vendors Red
> >    Hat, VA Research and LinuxCare. Torvalds announced it has already
> >    obtained venture capital funding from Silicon Valley's premier VC
> >    firm, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.
> >
> >    "The free software model has served its purpose," said the Finnish
> >    coder, considered by many geeks to be the greatest programmer in the
> >    world, "but now I've got to think about putting my daughters through
> >    college."
> >
> >    LinuxSoft, according to Torvalds, will experiment with a variety of
> >    business models -- including an innovative advertiser-supported
> >    approach, in which sponsors will pay to insert their messages directly
> >    into the program code. "We know that that's where they'll get the
> >    maximum eyeballs and best bang for their buck," he said.
> >
> >    LinuxSoft expects to file for an IPO within 36 hours, Torvalds added.
> >
> >    Torvalds' announcement was followed by a rash of similar breakthrough
> >    developments in the open-source world, prompting one longtime observer
> >    to say via e-mail "the dam has broken -- the open sourcers have
> >    finally realized that TANSTAAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free
> >    lunch."
> >
> >    Eric Raymond, the oft-quoted hacker advocate and open-source
> >    propagandist, released a paper on his personal Web site titled "The
> >    Cathedral, the Bazaar and the Bottom Line." Raymond said that he was
> >    launching a new venture called "Open Bourse" -- an online marketplace
> >    in which free-software programmers could auction off their code to the
> >    highest bidder. "Open Bourse" is a joint venture with eBay.
> >
> >    Slashdot, the popular "news for nerds" Web site that has served as a
> >    focal point for open-source devotees, unveiled a redesigned and
> >    renamed site, Slashdot Investor. Beginning immediately, Slashdot
> >    Investor will only be available to site visitors who have purchased
> >    subscriptions. Premium content will include a "Stock Tip of the Day"
> >    from journalist Jon Katz -- a 6,500-word essay on a particular
> >    company's cultural context, along with a buy/sell recommendation.
> >
> >    Brian Behlendorf of the Apache Project issued a press release
> >    detailing a new plan to levy a micropayment tax on every Web page
> >    delivered by the widely deployed Apache Web server. "This great
> >    software has been doing its job on millions of computers without ever
> >    asking for anything in return," Behlendorf said. "The free ride is
> >    over -- it's time to pay the piper."
> >
> >    In Redmond, Microsoft announced that Free Software Foundation founder
> >    Richard Stallman had accepted the new position of Senior Vice
> >    President for Ideology.
> >
> >    Initial reaction to the news was mild, to the dismay of trolling
> >    journalists. A brief flame war broke out on comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >    where a few die-hard open-source devotees tangled with the movement's
> >    leaders. But complaints like "Have our whole community's ideals gone
> >    to /dev/null?" were quickly met with responses like "Get real, pal."
> >
> >    Some posters on Usenet suggested that the news was an instance of
> >    "Microsoft FUD": "There has not been such a massive disinformation
> >    campaign since the days of Cointelpro." A few even claimed that the
> >    moves were an obvious April Fools' prank, but Torvalds himself posted
> >    a strong denial: "We are still intent on world domination. But now we
> >    plan to rake in some dough, too."
> >    SALON | April 1, 1999
>
> That couldn't happen because Linux is GPLed...

Look at the date :-)
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony J. Podrasky)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: timezone and daylight savings problem
Date: 5 Apr 1999 17:58:04 -0500

>Daylight time started on April 3 - what's strange about your system knowing that
>
>>Hi,
>>When I run date, it prints
>>
>>Mon Apr  5 12:52:47 EDT 1999
>>
>>Notice that it's April 5, yet it still says it's daylight savings
>>time.  Shouldn't the timezone be EST? 
>>
>
No - it *was* EST. Now we [you] are in EDT.

My system switched from PST to PDT. 

The only problem is that the time remained the same.

If anyone knows why the time remained the same instead of moving
ahead one hour, please let me know.

regards,
tonyp


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From: "Selious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Token Ring
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:22:15 +0200



>Is this happening because we haven't connect computer to Token Ring network
>(we are doing this for our bussines partner)?


It could definitly be !!. I use tokenring as well, and though I can't test
it out right now, I do know that TokenRing generates errors when not
connected to a HUB. You will also see blinking green and orange lights,
which normally indicate ring speed (4 or 16).

Anyway, it's easy enough, lend a MAU !!



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From: Sean Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Simple Redundancy/Failover?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:22:44 GMT

Has anyone written any software providing simple redundancy/failover
capability?

For example, say we have 10 proxy servers (Squid) running. Lets place
another dedicated machine in front of them which will look at all
incoming proxy requests and send the request to the 10 proxy servers in
a round robin fashion. If the machine we've decided to send it to isn't
available (ie no heartbeat) send it to the next one?

Has anyone seen or even thought about this sort of "proxy"? A whole
group of proxies (or any stateless TCP service for that matter) would be
known as 1 unique ip address which would be balanced among several
machines?


--
Sean Watkins

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Heffernan)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Groupware on Linux ... ?
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 01:26:02 GMT

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:05:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Don Heffernan) wrote:

>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> I need some help!
>>>
>>> I'm into my third week with a North Sioux City, South Dakota-based company and
>>> I'm in charge of the Intra/Internet structure and services.
>>>
>>> The killer is that I can't find an attractive alternative to some of the group
>>> conferencing and scheduling that Notes offers.  There are some CGI scripts out
>>> there that will do nice things, but their interfaces uniformly SUCK, and I'm
>>> not sure I have time to clean up the HTML they're generating.
>>>
>Bill:
>
>I'm going up to Cambridge on Monday for a briefing on Lotus' future
>directions.  I'll find out when their Linux port will be available.

The Lotus folks say their server port should be out this summer.  It
didn't need a lot to port from Solaris - primarily some networking
tweaks.  They do not plan a client port for Linux desktop users but
Notes R5 access by browser has almost all the functionality of the
Notes client.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gaussian 94
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:32:43 GMT

Does anyone know of the existance of a linux port of G94.  If so can you
please send me the address of the make files.

TIA
Geoff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colvert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: RCS problem over NFS
Date: 6 Apr 1999 01:47:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I am currently having a problem using the RCS "co" command under RedHat
Linux 5.2 using an NFS mounted volume. Here is the physical situation:

I have four Linux boxes running RedHat Linux 5.2. The first one has all
the user accounts defined on it and the rest use Yellow Pages to get
user accounts from it. I have the "/home" partitions from the various
boxes NFS mounted by each of the other boxes. Here is an excerpt from
the /etc/fstab file of the first one:

/dev/sda1   /        ext2  defaults         1  1
[snip]
box2:/home  /home_2  nfs   rw,bg,intr,soft  0  0
box3:/home  /home_3  nfs   rw,bg,intr,soft  0  0
box4:/home  /home_4  nfs   rw,bg,intr,soft  0  0

I have my RCS archives on the first box. When I try to reserve (check
out) a revision from a machine that has the RCS partition as an NFS
mount, I successfully get a local copy of the file, but the RCS file on
the NFS partition has been wiped (a file of the correct name is there,
but it has zero length!) If I try to reserve the file from the machine
on which the RCS partition resides, everything works perfectly!

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions as to why this is
happening and how I can fix this? Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

--
Paul Colvert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Stuart Jeffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:52:56 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon-o Addleman <jaddle@po-
box.mcgill.ca> writes
>Once upon a  Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:29:55 GMT, Richard Pitt
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On the other hand, Microsoft's source isn't even available to everyone
>>at Microsoft, and few if any people there have ever had access to all of
>>it at once. It takes them far longer to discover and/or admit to a bug,
>>and even longer to issue the patches. More often the patches get put
>>into the next release and we have to pay for them!
>
>And interesting case: there's a bug in my version of windows (the very
>first commercial release of win95). Basically it amounts to this: you
>can't use the "save password" button on dialup networking unless you
>have microsoft networks installed (which I never use). This bug
>persisted for almost 5 years, through many different versions. It may
>even still be in windows 98, though I certainly haven't tried it -
>that OS gives me the willies....
>
>Certainly no bug like that has EVER persisted for 5 years in any open
>source program, unless no one was using it at all. In that case, it
>really doesn't matter...
It does work if you install another network client or something in the
networking bit in control panel.  Can't remember what.  Make sure you
have client for ms networks installed.  I remember i got it to work by
installing some thing in the network bit.

HTH a bit
-- 
Stuart Jeffrey

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From: Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: backup .tgz file > 2gb
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:58:41 -0400

Hi,

I have used the below approach with Linux.  I don't use the "p" in the
second tar.  Make sure that you do this as root (on both machines -- or
both disks).  Also I only use the second "v" to make sure that the untar
is happening ok.  I figure that if the untar is working then the tar
must have worked.  The dir and the "-" should be reversed in the first
tar.  If you use the "B" in the second tar you should also use it in the
first.

Since you are copying between two disks, I assume that they are on the
same machine therefore I would do this:
   mount <to disk> /mnt
   cd /
   tar cf - `ls -1 | fgrep -v /mnt` | (cd <target dir>; tar xvf -)
   mkdir /mnt/mnt
The ls gives all the files except the /mnt directory (so that you don't
recurse).  The mkdir creates the /mnt directory which you didn't copy.

Or a better approach might be to boot from a floppy and mount both disks
to avoid the issue of the recursion totally.  Then neither will be
contained in the other.

Hope that this helps

Henry

Kevin Kultgen wrote:
> 
> Try:
> 
> tar cvf <dir> - | rsh <targetmachine> "(cd <target dir>; tar xvBpf -)"
> 
> It may need to be altered for local use and Linux.  It works under Solaris.
> I haven't had the need to use it under Linux yet.
> 
> The concept is to tar it up and send the result across the network where it
> is promptly untarred.
> 
> Kevin Kultgen  A+
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Jens Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > hi,
> >
> > i want to copy the content of one hardisk to another harddisk, the
> > second disk is smaller than the first one, because of this i have to
> > compress the files. the problem with gzip an tar is, that the .tgz file
> > will become bigger than 2gb and linux can't handle this (the system runs
> > with an intel cpu). i think the easiest way ist to copy and gzip the
> > files the same time, but i've no idea, how i can do this. i've tried
> > afio -cZ, but i've got only errors.
> > any ideas?? or knows somebody a packer for linux like arj, that can
> > start a new file after a specified size??
> >
> > thx,
> >
> > jens

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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] 'Do' key from xterm?
Date: 5 Apr 1999 23:46:01 GMT

Michael D Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I type a 'Do' key (Esc[28~) when I telnet to a VAX from an xterm 
> on a Linux box?  

with XFree86 xterm, that's a control/F3.

The XFree86 3.3.3 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
There's an faq at
        http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html
        ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: modules
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:42:15 +0000

I am trying to rid myself of unnecessary modules and stuff in the
kernel.

I can look in modules.dep to get the module dependancies I need, but is
there a way to tie those back to the options in the .config file without
reverse engineering the whole make process?

For exapmple, I have a BusLogic adapter with only a SCSI tape on it, so
I want to be able to dump all those other SCSI modules and SCSI disks
and CDs, but there are dependencies on some of them.  Is there a clean
chain somewhere or a HOWTO that I can follow for a clean, small kernel
with only what I need?

TIA,

Yan

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From: "Bill Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Help needed for my all kinds of "terminal" running on DataExpert DSV5357 Card
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:04:08 +0800

Hi all,

I'm a newbie for linux. I installed RedHat 5.2 one month ago. My video card
is DataExpert's DSV5357 with 4M SGRAM and the resolution I selected is
1024X768. The problems I met are:
1. The card can't work under 24bpp.
2. Under 16bpp the X works fine except all kinds of "Terminal" applications.
I tried xterm, gnome-terminal, KDE terminal. All of them had the same
problem. The "terminal" programs caused the whole system hang for a long
time, e.g, I list the directory, the files are displayed line by line in a
very very slow speed. At this time the whole system almost hang, even the
mouse can't be moved and "ctl+alt+backspace" doesn't work. Sometimes the
display inside the "terminal" overlapped.
3. If I select 8bpp, everything works fine include the "terminals".

If someone has any idea of these problems or had the same experience as
mine, please help!!!

Thanks ahead! :-)

Bill



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From: David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mt forward wont work
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:56:53 +1000

Hi, am using a DLT 20/40 for backup and restore, but 'mt forward' won't
forward to the next archive. What am I doin wrong? using RH5.2


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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions installation - what's it doing?
Date: 6 Apr 1999 03:36:00 GMT

Pat Traynor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've heard that things have improved with later versions of the
> extensions.

It has improved. It's gone from a wide-open door to a closed door with
a sign saying "I'm unlocked and there's lots of valuables inside. Rob
me.". The links off the page I posted make for interesting reading. In
addition to the inherent security problems, FrontPage users also seem
to tend towards an attitude that makes them more vulnerable to attacks
than need be. This can be a problem because you can bet _they_ aren't
going to accept the blame when someone hacks their site using a hole
they've left open ( or that FrontPage has left open ). From the other
side I'd personally be leery of having my pages hosted on a site that
supported FrontPage, because of the risk to me of someone exploiting
the holes in the system that I can't close because they're inherent in
FrontPage ( eg. the use of easily-cracked single-DES encryption for
passwords held in files that, without extreme care on the part of the
hosting admins, can wind up being accessible to a cracker ).

-- 
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
                                -- unknown

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From: Thomas Keats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Overclocking was: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:22:18 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I can see why one might want to squeeze a little extra performance out of their
system, but i have always followed the guidline, that it is a temporary
solution.  One would best be spent using resources in finding  a new chip at a
good decent price..
Last time a friend attempted to overclock Linux (RedHat5.1) actually moved
slower. (P100)



Greg Yantz wrote:

> Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> > One little thing though - the Celeron is clock-locked, so you can't
> > overclock it :-(
>
> Celerons are multiplier locked. You can easily overclock them by changing
> the bus speed.
>
> > > >Eugene wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Here is my dream machine:
> > > >>
> > > >> Celeron 366 overclocked to 550
>
> Your dream machine is a toaster oven? Running a Celeron at 450 is likely
> to work. 500 is unlikely. 550 is not a good idea.
>
> -Greg




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: need help installing dmsdos
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:39:49 GMT

does anyone know how to install dmsdos on redhat?
I can't get past the first step, which requires kernel sources to be in the
/usr/src/linux  dir

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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the 
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 6 Apr 1999 03:55:10 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> said.  I was saying that since Linux was made for the PC, previously as
> Microslop platform, and since most of us would like to replace Microslop
> with Linux, it would be nice if we had some references which included
> names of items as we once knew them (which point to the names they are

The problem is that Linux isn't descended from Microsoft software, it comes
from the Unix world and brings along the Unix terminology which predates the
Microsoft terms by a decade or so. A lot of us prefer Linux precisely because
it doesn't resemble Microsoft's way of doing things, and seriously wonder
why someone would want to start learning it by dragging in baggage from a
world we use Linux in order to _avoid_.

Eg: "mouse" vs. "pointer". I _never_ associated "mouse" => "cursor on the
screen". I always associated "pointing device" => "cursor on the screen",
with "mouse" being one possible pointing device. In fact, mice probably
make up the minority of pointing devices I deal with regularly. I'd been
dealing with GUIs for 5 years before I ever came across the notion that
the pointer on the screen might be called the "mouse cursor".

> My argument is "I'm in Spain, please help me learn Spanish".  It is not,
> "these damn Spaniards should learn to speak English".

How about "You elected to move to Spain, learning Spanish should have been
an obvious prerequisite to doing this. Yes it would be nice if the natives
know enough English to help you, but are they really _obligated_ to do so
just because you decided to move here?".

-- 
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
                                -- unknown

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: www.thelinuxstore.com (whew!)
Date: 6 Apr 1999 03:14:57 GMT

RCW (remove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: If you're tempted to purchase at www.thelinuxstore.com I strongly
: suggest you read the "fine print" (terms & conditions).  There are
: some pretty onerous lines in there like - 21 day warranty period, you
: can only sue them in Arizona, and the best one of all, if they sue
: you, you have to pay their attorney's fees and other costs (whether
: you win or lose).

: There are too many honorable vendors out there to have to put up with
: this kind of nonsense.

: RCW
You're right, it is nonsense.  You owe me a thousand bones for 
reading this.  Just 'cause it's in fine print don't make it binding.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kalthak)
Subject: Re: Solaris binaries compatibility
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:58:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 10 Dec 1998 04:22:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:

>On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:30:07 GMT, 
> Martin Krzywinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> I need to get a Solaris X program to run under Linux on my PC. I'm a Linux
>> newbie, having just installed it a few days ago. I also have a SunOS binary of
>> this program. Any way to get it going? Either through some fiddling or
>> emulators?
>
>Solaris on a Sparc and Linux on Intel?  No.


    True, but what about running solaris x86 binaries on Linux?

    since the architectures are the same I would assume that
    all one needs is the correct runtime libraries, or am I missing 
    something here.

   Terry



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