Linux-Misc Digest #756, Volume #19                Tue, 6 Apr 99 03:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Mounting SCSI CDROM (Glenn T. Jayaputera)
  RH 5.2 won't load x-windows (Frank Conte)
  Re: "playing MPEGs" or "problems with SMP kernel" (Mark J. Tilford)
  Downloading ftp files ("Henry Ostrowski")
  how to do you recreate boot.b,boot.xxx and map files? (Bill)
  NTFS vs EXT2 ("Herminio Alvarez, Jr.")
  mouse (dickyroo)
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? ("Captain Blood")
  Need Sound Card Suggestions (Steve Orosz)
  Re: Baby-sitting Mum and Dad over a telephone line (Andy Thomas)
  Re: Need Sound Card Suggestions ("Derek Miller")
  Re: Help - newbie wishing to install RHL 5.2 on win95 System (Andrew)
  Kernel doesn't recognize my Imation Superdisk drive (Aaron Ginn)
  Re: setup questions (Timothy Dixon)
  Re: setup questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: BUS error - Netscape (Ilya)
  Re: BUS error - Netscape (Ilya)
  Re: Names to call Windows... (William Cornett)
  Re: Who is connected to my system (Ben Short)
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Jon-o Addleman)
  Re: Help!!! Sun Sparc BIOS!! (Gus Hartmann)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the 
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:29:32 -0500



Todd Knarr wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > said.  I was saying that since Linux was made for the PC, previously as
> > Microslop platform, and since most of us would like to replace Microslop
> > with Linux, it would be nice if we had some references which included
> > names of items as we once knew them (which point to the names they are
>
> The problem is that Linux isn't descended from Microsoft software, it comes
> from the Unix world and brings along the Unix terminology which predates the
> Microsoft terms by a decade or so.

Actually, the problem appears to be your inability to understand what I wrote.
Please reread it with the same scrutiny you would apply to your Unix manual
and leave out all your presumptions and prejudices.  I am making no demands
and I am not trying to change Linux to MS.


> Eg: "mouse" vs. "pointer". I _never_ associated "mouse" => "cursor on the
> screen". I always associated "pointing device" => "cursor on the screen",
> with "mouse" being one possible pointing device. In fact, mice probably
> make up the minority of pointing devices I deal with regularly. I'd been
> dealing with GUIs for 5 years before I ever came across the notion that
> the pointer on the screen might be called the "mouse cursor".

Nobody is trying to replace "pointer" with "mouse".  I simply think it would
be nice if they included the word "mouse" somewhere in the text and said
"see pointer".  Again, I make no demands, this is simply a hint to help the
folks who might convert.


> > My argument is "I'm in Spain, please help me learn Spanish".  It is not,
> > "these damn Spaniards should learn to speak English".
>
> How about "You elected to move to Spain, learning Spanish should have been
> an obvious prerequisite to doing this. Yes it would be nice if the natives
> know enough English to help you, but are they really _obligated_ to do so
> just because you decided to move here?".

How about "You simply jumped into some text which was left over from my
comments to somebody elses thread and blew a gasket."  You are way off
base.  I have made no demands.  You appear to have a great difficulty under-
standing due to your deeply ingrained prejudice.  Either that or you took
too many asshole pills this morning.  I hope you run out soon.  Geeesh,
send me your address and I'll mail you some St. John's Wort.

Rick



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn T. Jayaputera)
Subject: Mounting SCSI CDROM
Date: 6 Apr 99 04:17:17 GMT

Hello, recently I got a SCSI CDROM and I would like to use it in my
Linux box.  The box has 2940 + 2 SCSI HDs and everything works fine.
My problem is I cannot mount this CDROM, it complains about not
a block device.  With my HDs, I use /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 but
I cannot use sdc1 for my CDROM.  Am I doing something stupid here?

thanks for you help
glenn


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From: Frank Conte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 5.2 won't load x-windows
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:58:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm trying to install X-windows on top of a RH 5.2 installation. I can't
get startx to start up. Nothing happens. What gives?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark J. Tilford)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: "playing MPEGs" or "problems with SMP kernel"
Date: 6 Apr 1999 04:58:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 05:43:44 +0000, Peter Kharchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Hi,
> I've ran into a weird problem when I put a second processor into my
>system: When the kernel is running in SMP mode with two processors,
>video players don't seem to work. All of them (mpeg_play, MpegTV, xanim)
>are showing the same exact problem: they spit out a bunch of frames,
>then freeze, then spit out some more and so on.
>  If I turn off the SMP option and recompile that same kernel, all works
>fine. If I run an SMP kernel having just one processor in the system, it
>all runs fine too. I have not noticed any other problems running the
>system in SMP mode with two processors. I imagine this has something to
>do with timings (and yes, I've tried to turn Enhanced Real Time Clock
>option, it doesn't help).
>
>  I was wondering if anyone else was having a similar problem or has any
>suggestions on how to fix this.
>
> (my system is a dual PII-450, and I tried the following kernels: 2.2.5,
>2.2.4 and 2.1.132 ... all giving the same results :( )
>
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
>-peter.
>

Do other programs that play audio work under the SMP kernel?  (Or, do you
have problems with the above programs if you turn off audio?)  

Reason:  I had similar problems at one time, which went away once I got
the audio properly configured.


-- 
=======================
Mark   Jeffrey  Tilford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Henry Ostrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Downloading ftp files
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:24:06 +1000

Can anyone help me. I have been trying to download KDE and some other
programs from the internet. I have been told to right click on the directory
eg: < Stable > then click on < Save as link  > then I get a screen asking
where to save it etc. When I go to retrieve the file I get a list the same
as the one I right clicked on at the web site and nothing happens???
What do I do from here ??
Thanks in advance
Henry





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From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: how to do you recreate boot.b,boot.xxx and map files?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:46:04 -0400

In trying to get lilo to load several os's I trashed the contents and
all boot.xxx backups of boot.b also map in /boot . Fortuneately., I had
a rescue disk and am able to reboot via floppy. How do I restore the *.b
files in /boot (eg; chain.b, boot.b, any_b.b, map, etc) ? I'm using rh
4.2 and 5.2, winbloze 3.1?
any help would be appreciated

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From: "Herminio Alvarez, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NTFS vs EXT2
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:41:00 -0400

Which is better?  What are the pros and cons of each filesystem.  If you
could even provide a link to a site that has information, I'd appreciate
it.

****  Herminio Alvarez, Jr.


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From: dickyroo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mouse
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 05:27:35 GMT

Just a quick question to anyone who cares to answer.  I have Redhat 5.2,
and when I first installed it I had a generic microsoft 2 button mouse.
I just recently bought a 3 button logitec mouse.  How do I change the
default mouse settings? (NOT in X)  I found the file called "mouse" in
/etc/sysconfig but I don't know what to put in it for my mouse.  (If
this is where I indeed change it)

Thank you in advance, 
dickyroo

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From: "Captain Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the 
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:43:01 -0500

What I don't understand is why this discussion has to revolve around MS?
Let's not forget that Xenix was an MS product, and in fact the first X86
*nix, and is considered an early inheritor of the BSD mantle (in at least 3
*nix books I own)... The "mouse" is not a microsoft invention, nor is the
term. Xerox reportedly called the device a 'mouse' when they were working on
the "GUI" that Apple finally stole from them, and I KNOW the mac geeks
called it a mouse before MS knew what a GUI was. If someone were to ask what
a "mouse cursor" was, almost anyone who knew what a mouse was and had used a
modern GUI would not be confused. Likewise, nearly everyone will know what a
"pointer" is in the same context. Simply make note of the translation and
move along, folks...


Captain Blood.


Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ec0iu$lp6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > said.  I was saying that since Linux was made for the PC, previously as
> > Microslop platform, and since most of us would like to replace Microslop
> > with Linux, it would be nice if we had some references which included
> > names of items as we once knew them (which point to the names they are
>
> The problem is that Linux isn't descended from Microsoft software, it
comes
> from the Unix world and brings along the Unix terminology which predates
the
> Microsoft terms by a decade or so. A lot of us prefer Linux precisely
because
> it doesn't resemble Microsoft's way of doing things, and seriously wonder
> why someone would want to start learning it by dragging in baggage from a
> world we use Linux in order to _avoid_.
>
> Eg: "mouse" vs. "pointer". I _never_ associated "mouse" => "cursor on the
> screen". I always associated "pointing device" => "cursor on the screen",
> with "mouse" being one possible pointing device. In fact, mice probably
> make up the minority of pointing devices I deal with regularly. I'd been
> dealing with GUIs for 5 years before I ever came across the notion that
> the pointer on the screen might be called the "mouse cursor".
>
> > My argument is "I'm in Spain, please help me learn Spanish".  It is not,
> > "these damn Spaniards should learn to speak English".
>
> How about "You elected to move to Spain, learning Spanish should have been
> an obvious prerequisite to doing this. Yes it would be nice if the natives
> know enough English to help you, but are they really _obligated_ to do so
> just because you decided to move here?".
>
> --
> All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
> a quick recompile.
>                                 -- unknown



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From: Steve Orosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Need Sound Card Suggestions
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 01:22:14 -0400

Hi,
    I am going to buy a new sound card for my computer and I would like
to get one that supports Linux and Windows.  So far the only card that
I've liked so far is the SoundBlaster 128PCI.  However I'm not sure if
it is supported in Linux.  If anyone can help me in choosing a good
soundcard for my computer.  So if anyone has any suggestions for a PCI
soundcard PLEASE let me know.  I would prefer a PCI sound card but if
there are some good ISA soundcards also tell me about them.
                Thank you very much

                                                Steve


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From: Andy Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Baby-sitting Mum and Dad over a telephone line
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:07:52 +0100

On 5 Apr 1999, Mike McEwan wrote:

>   Hi, 
> 
>   My parents, like many I suppose, are a little wet behind the ears as
> regards `computers' and the `Internet'. They've both had brief
> dealings with computers before in connection with their jobs, but
> things were setup for them for some specific use. The computer was
> little more than a glorified ATM machine.
> 
>   Well, the Internet and electronic mail are now `here' they reckon,
> and look as if they're going to stay. With this in view they wish to
> get `connected', and have asked me to assist in setting-up a machine
> for them. I'm going to cobble something together from my old machine
> (Pentium 200 MMX) so that can get a `feel' for cyberspace etc., and
> take things further if they want, later. 
> 
>   Well much as I'd like to, I don't think I can supply them with a
> Linux box - least, not straight away :-). It'll have to be the Windows
> 95 that came with my old machine. However, I was thinking I might make
> the system dual-boot with a mini Linux partition that somehow I could
> use to (after they have booted into it) log into their machine over a
> telephone line and essentially baby-sit/look over the Windows 95
> stuff, should they have problems. The DOS/windows partition would
> obviously be mounted and accessible when booted as Linux.
> 
>   I was thinking I would use mgetty to be able to log into their
> machine, but am still a little stumped by the problem of being able to
> check out the Windows 95 stuff by accessing the DOS partition
> alone. As some might be aware, windows maintains most of its
> config/setup values in a `registry' - this is going to be useless to
> work with from the Linux partition without being able to run things
> like windows `device manager' etc. Can `Wine' or something assist
> here?

Why not set the machine up with a minimal Linux installation (plus mgetty
of course), install VmWare and then install Windows95 over that? You could
then leave the machine running permanently running Linux and Windows95 as
a virtual machine. All your parents would have to do is switch on the
monitor and they'd be presented with a standard Windows95 environment
while you could log in from afar and oversee things. (But I have not
tried VmWare for myself yet and I've no idea how fast Win95 runs under
these conditions).

The other alternative is to set the system up as a purely Windows95
machine but install a telnetd daemon that would allow you to log in
remotely via the serial port and attached modem. Then you could install 
a VNC (Virtual Network Computing - see http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/)
server on this system with a VNC viewer on your system to interactively
monitor the syste. In fact, with VNC you could both operate the machine
simultaneously - you can both type on the keyboard and move the mouse and
you'd both see the results at the same time!

I've had a lot of experience with VNC and use it extensively at work and
at home - mail me if you want more help.

>   As a side issue. I want to try and test all this out at home before
> handing the machine over. In order to do this I thought I would obtain 
> a `null modem cable'. I'm a little confused/ignorant of what a `null
> modem cable' is. Would I still be using PPP over this `null
> modem'/serial connection?

A 'null-modem' cable is simply a cable with either 9-pin or 25-pin D
connectors at each end but instead of being wired straight through (ie,
pin to pin), the TxD and RxD connections are crossed over and the DTR at
one end is linked to DSR at the other, RTS to CTS in the same way - and
vice versa. The idea is you can connect two PCs to each other back to back
for file transfers, etc without also using two modems and a phone line.

You certainly won't need this cable at all - if your modem is an external
desktop model, you'll simply need a plain straight-through cable to
connect your PC's serial port to the modem.

Andy


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From: "Derek Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Need Sound Card Suggestions
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:54:35 -0400

I use the creative ensoniq AudioPCI es1371 and it only cost around 30 bucks
with rebate and had absolutley no prob setting it up.
Steve Orosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Hi,
>    I am going to buy a new sound card for my computer and I would like
>to get one that supports Linux and Windows.  So far the only card that
>I've liked so far is the SoundBlaster 128PCI.  However I'm not sure if
>it is supported in Linux.  If anyone can help me in choosing a good
>soundcard for my computer.  So if anyone has any suggestions for a PCI
>soundcard PLEASE let me know.  I would prefer a PCI sound card but if
>there are some good ISA soundcards also tell me about them.
>                Thank you very much
>
>                                                Steve
>



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From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help - newbie wishing to install RHL 5.2 on win95 System
Date: 6 Apr 1999 05:32:05 GMT

Chet,

I'm a newbie myself but recently installed RedHat 5.2 on an open partition 
of my 10.2 gig hd.  If you can boot from your cdrom, it shouldn't be too 
much of a problem.  RedHat will automatically go to the open partition if 
you use the Workstation install.  DO NOT use the Server install if you want 
to keep your windows partition intact as it will wipe everything out and 
use the whole disk for linux.  The custom install let's you choose how your 
linux partitions are set up and could be helpful to use if you have any 
concerns about keeping your boot info in a partition under cyclinder 1024 
(I did, I'm still working on getting linux to recognize space above 8 
gigs).  I hope that helps.  

Andrew


Chet Vora wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am thinking of installing Linux on my Windows95 system. I have four 2.1 
Gig
> partitions (C,D,E and F) on my 8 GB Western dig HDD and I have Win95 on 
C,D &E.
> I am planning to install Linux on the 4th one ie. F.
> I am a relatively new to the installation procedure(s) for Linux 
coexisting with
> another OS (I have previously worked with stand-alone Linux system once)
> especially with the 8.4 GB hdd . Is there some things I need to take care 
of
> before I attempt to install Linux ??
> Is there a site where I could find the necessary documentation especially 
for
> the 8.4 GB HDD case ?I would *REALLY* appreciate pointers/tips/URL in 
this
> regard. I am a little bit apprehensive about this as I don't want to lose 
data
> on my other drives.
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance,
> Chet Vora


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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel doesn't recognize my Imation Superdisk drive
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:33:00 -0700

I bought a new Pentium II a little over a week ago, and it came with an
Imation Superdisk drive.  I've installed Redhat 5.2 without problems,
but I have not been able to create a boot disk yet because Linux does
not recognize the drive.  Has anyone had any success rebuilding the
kernel to add support for one of these drives?  Are there any special
instructions I need to be aware of in order to do this?  I've never
rebuilt the kernel so I'm a little wary of doing this.

Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Aaron Ginn

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Dixon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: setup questions
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:09:12 GMT

On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:14:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

>1)  When I first installed Linux, my mouse worked fine.
>Now it only works under X.  This occured long before
>I recompiled the kernel (which I have yet to replace
>anyway).
>

Just a guess.  Is gpm running?  That's the deamon process than handles
the mouse for the console.  I've heard that there's a conflict between
it and X, so a lot of people disable gpm when they install X. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: setup questions
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:40:16 -0500



Timothy Dixon wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:14:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >1)  When I first installed Linux, my mouse worked fine.
> >Now it only works under X.  This occured long before
> >I recompiled the kernel (which I have yet to replace
> >anyway).
> >
>
> Just a guess.  Is gpm running?  That's the deamon process than handles
> the mouse for the console.  I've heard that there's a conflict between
> it and X, so a lot of people disable gpm when they install X.


I'm not sure but I don't think gpm is running anymore.  I just checked
ps ef | grep gpm and I get nada.  I never uninstalled it (at least not
intentionally :^) and the mouse use to work in both X and non-X (what
do you call this not yet in X mode? ).

I created /etc/sysconfig/mouse and then typed gpm but
it didn't work.  This is what's in mouse:

MOUSETYPE="PS/2"
XEMU3=yes

Should that MOUSETYPE be PSAUX?  Also, I have a 3 button mouse
so should I really bother with the emulation mode?  By the way, I'm
running SuSE 5.2 (or should I say it's running me :^).


Rick



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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BUS error - Netscape
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Date: 5 Apr 1999 23:22:25 +0700

In comp.os.linux.misc Ken Pizzini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4 Apr 1999 08:41:48 +0700, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I was running Netscape when it suddenly crashed! I got this message:
>>
>>root@republic-p4-~>    
>>[1]  + bus error  netscape

> Netcape is buggy.  This particular crash was probably caused
> by its attempting to do an unaligned read of RAM.


>>Also, a few days ago, my Linux machine completely froze. /var/log/messages
>>didn't show anything... Any ideas what could have caused that?

> Anything from a stray cosmic ray  bumping your CPU into a locked state to
> a bug in the  particular rev of kernel you were using.  It  is a bit of a
> detective game of gathering lots of clues and deciding which are relevant
> and piecing together a likely scenario  of what went wrong.  For the more
> obvious  cases you  might have  luck in  asking in  Usenet  newsgroups to
> ascertain what went wrong, but for the more obscure cases you pretty much
> need  to  have an  experienced  sysadmin on-site  to  stand  a chance  of
> figuring out what went wrong (and even then, sometimes the answer is just
> "gremlins").


Sorry - I forgot to mention. I was running Netcape when it froze my entire
machine, and CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or CTRL-ALT-DEL didn't help. Buggy Netcape,
damn it! Froze my machine second day in a row and I had to power cycle it!
This on a machine with lots and lots virtual memory and RAM, etc. I am
really disappointed.

This is:

Netscape 4.08/Export, 02-Nov-98; (c) 1995-1998 

I owned an old, slow DECstation and I have never had that hapen to me!  Of
course, one reason is that I never run Netscape on it, there wasn't a
version for Ultrix.

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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BUS error - Netscape
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Date: 5 Apr 1999 23:24:07 +0700

In comp.os.linux.misc Tim Lines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In my experience (7 years) EVERY system hang under Linux I've ever experienced
> has been due to misconfigured/defective hardware.  Netscape is more difficult
> to diagnose but I've had good luck with 4.08.

> I suspect that you have timing problems between RAM and the CPU.  You wouldn't
> be overclocking a little, would you?

No.... Every time I experienced a freeze, I was running Netscape and
downloading a web page. What does that tell you? Netscape is involved.
Would installing another version help?


> Ilya wrote:

>> I was running Netscape when it suddenly crashed! I got this message:
>>
>> root@republic-p4-~>
>> [1]  + bus error  netscape
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Also, a few days ago, my Linux machine completely froze. /var/log/messages
>> didn't show anything... Any ideas what could have caused that?
>>
>> Linux 2.2.1
>> root@republic-p4-~> netscape -v
>> Netscape 4.08/Export, 02-Nov-98; (c) 1995-1998 Netscape Communications Corp.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Cornett)
Subject: Re: Names to call Windows...
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 04:33:08 GMT

On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 06:53:22 +0000, Chris Leahy wrote:
: William Cornett wrote:
: > Shouldn't this crap be on comp.os.linux.advocacy? Most people (myself
: > included) come here to learn something useful. There should be a group
: > titled comp.os.linux.whiners or comp.os.bsd.freebsd.whiners for youse
: > guys.
: 
: You must be a wintendo user!
: 
: Whiner #1
: 

I'm kinda partial to "Winders" myself, being from rural Southern
USA.:) If you'll check my full news header you'll see what I use.
--
WC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: Who is connected to my system
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:54:31 +1000

In article <rMeO2.1163$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> 
> > You could try netstat -a -n , but that will only show hostnames too.
> 
> I forgot to mention I use netstat too, but anyway, I'll try these switches
> and see what happens. I am hoping to find something "warftp" style, it tells
> u detailed info, his hostname, what file his downloading, how long he's been
> downloading it, that type of thing.
> 
> It looks like I might have to write a program myself, but this is going to
> take a while, because I have to understand lots of things. Anyway if someone
> knows something or someprogram available to do this please let me know.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
ftp wise, proftpd does a good job of that. It can be downloaded at 
www.proftpd.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon-o Addleman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 05:41:49 GMT

Once upon a  Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:52:56 +0100, Stuart Jeffrey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Certainly no bug like that has EVER persisted for 5 years in any open
>>source program, unless no one was using it at all. In that case, it
>>really doesn't matter...
>It does work if you install another network client or something in the
>networking bit in control panel.  Can't remember what.  Make sure you
>have client for ms networks installed.  I remember i got it to work by
>installing some thing in the network bit.

I believe it is that it requires the client for MS networks. But it
doesn't make much sense to need that! It's a bug, plain and simple,
unless there's some really bizarre reason that it'd be good to have it
work that way....
-- 

Jon-o Addleman

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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!!! Sun Sparc BIOS!!
Date: 6 Apr 1999 06:43:13 GMT

Moribund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>     It's typically called a PROM.  It's the first thing that starts on older
> SPARCs (can't comment on the newer ones).

        They're still there, even on the newest UltraSParcs.

> They can be setup to go straight
> into boot mode though (as in, go to disk one, partition one and start
> cranking) so you might not have realized you were being passed through it.

        Generally, to drop into the PROM, halt the operating system, and
the "ok" prompt will be displayed. It can also be obtained by holding
down the "Stop" key and pressing the 'a' key. To get back to the OS in
this case, type "go".

        The SPARC boot PROM is highly useful; it can do SCSI probing,
boot configuration, and diagnostics on a box without a working OS. I
often wish that PC BIOS were half as useful.

-- 
        Gus
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