Linux-Misc Digest #756, Volume #20 Wed, 23 Jun 99 16:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: JDK RPM on Linux ("steve davidson")
Quiet and cool linux hardware (yan)
Re: Backup recommendations? (killbill)
Re: Kernel Panic ??? what went wrong?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: (Tim Kelley)
Re: Help for MODEM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX (David Kastrup)
Re: Mindcraft Times Three Microsoft (William Wueppelmann)
Twain. Does it have any sense? (mj)
Re: umount: device is busy (Clarence Riddle)
Re: which is better? (Lev Babiev)
Re: Insmod 95+% CPU usage ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux jingle (Equinox)
Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~< (brian moore)
Re: Twain. Does it have any sense? (Frank Sweetser)
RHL 6.0: Broken Japanese text support (Frampton Steve R)
Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux? (Joshua Grauman)
Re: Linux News Server (John Thompson)
Re: go back and forward in directory tree (Greg Jednaszewski)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News ("Stuart Fox")
Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux? (David L. Bilbey)
Garbage in floating point numbers? (Rajarshi Bandyopadhyay)
Re: Linux jingle (Greg Yantz)
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From: "steve davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.misc,comp.os.linux.developement.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: JDK RPM on Linux
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:31:16 -0700
check out www.blackdown.org - I have been using JDK 1.1.7 for quite some
time now with no problems. Their port of 1.2 may be out of beta now (I
haven't checked recently)
Steve
Jeffrey Pajor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Has anyone gotten this RPM of the JDK to install on Red Hat 6
> successfully?
>
>
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/solaris/RPMS/i386/jdk-1.1.7-1a.1glibc.i386.
html
>
> Or is there anther RPM you can point me too?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yan)
Subject: Quiet and cool linux hardware
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:20:11 GMT
I need to set up a linux server for a residential system. It does not
have to be a "super" system, but it has to be quiet (no howling fans)
and cool, as it will be in a cabinet with not much ventilation. I am
replacing the PC now in use (a P5/150) because the cooling fan simply
makes too much noise.
A laptop comes to mind, except that laptops (in my experience) have
fairly short lifespans if run continuously (24/7).
Any recommendations on the new generation of small computers coming
out now from Gateway, Sony, etc?
Thanks,
Yan
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From: killbill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Backup recommendations?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:25:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
> I could swap tapes, and I've got enough tapes presently to handle 20
> gigs worth of data. But I don't think I'd want to use CD-RW either
> way. Even though the media cost is attractive (.99 per CD) you can
> only write once to it, and if you have a lot of data to back up, then
> you just spent a lot of money on blank CDs that have realistically
> little value. And, if you want to rewrite on CD's, the cost skyrockets
> to approximately $20 per CD, which really isn't justifiable IMHO
> concerning the amount of data that can be put on there.
That is a good analysis, but your figures are way out of date, and you
have confused a couple of (admittedly ambigous) terms.
CDR's are the common way of referring to the CD-Recordable drives that
you can only write once. As you state, they are about $1 each retail,
and can be had for as low as 50 cents if you mail order 100 or so at a
time.
CDRW are the rewritable disks, good for at least 1000 cycles (this
probably compares favorably with the lifespan of a tape). They were
about $20 years ago, but now run about $4 each retail, and as low as
$2.50 or so bulk mail ordered.
$2.50 for 500 MB uncompressed of rewritable media is pretty cost
effective. Likewise, there are often situations where you want a
permenant archive of your data, and having a $1 per gigabyte option with
the best shelf life in the industry is also very cost effective. I know
I keep permenant archives of my system from before I perform each major
software upgrade (i.e. win95 to win98, and redhat 5.2 to redhat 6.0).
Tapes are, however, much more convienient, as they do not tie up your
system during a write (while on many systems a CD burn will pause your
system for 15 to 30 minutes per CD), and they do not require as much
disk flipping.
>
> >This is what I can work out for a reasonably cost/benefit balanced
> >backup strategy. I'm also interested in other opinions.
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> David E. Fox Tax Thanks for letting me
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] the change magnetic patterns
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] churches on your hard disk.
>
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>
(actually, I don't think you ever made it out of cache, so I think my
patterns are unchanged :)
--
Bil Kilgallon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
--"I believe, what I believe, has made me what I am. I did not make
it, It is making me, it is the very truth of God, not the invention
of any man". Rich Mullins, quoting G.K. Chesterton.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic ??? what went wrong??
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:34:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just recompile a new kernel and I have this error message:
>
> Kernel panic : VFS: Unable to mount fs on 03:01.
>
> what I did wrong and what I should do?
>
> --
> Eric
>
I am having a similar problem when upgrading my linux RedHat using
loadlin. Evrything starts OK untill the kernel tries to mount /
partition:
VFS: Cannot open root device 08:21
Kernel Panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 08:21
My configuration:
PII 233MHz
CDROM Mitsumi IDE
HP CDWriter Plus 8100 (IDE)
No SCSI interfaces
Anyone has an idea?
Patrick
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: 23 Jun 1999 13:31:16 -0400
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> RedHat 6.0 upgrade is utterly broken, and in spite of dozens of bug
> reports from the start, they still have not put out any official
> notice or fix. They are really trying to set up a track record of
> incredibly shoddy upgrades. 5.1 was very bad, and 6.0 is even worse.
well, yeah, you're going down in minor releases. 4.0 sucked, 4.1 wasn't
that bad, a fully patched 4.2 is nice and stable. same story is happening
for 5.x and 6.x
> Not just LaTeX is affected. Dozens of packages are upgraded
> incompletely. It is a mess.
>
> Try
> rpm --verify -a
IIRC, it's not that the packages are broken, it's actually that rpm
--verify has some problems.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
P.S. I suppose I really should be nicer to people today, considering
I'll be singing in Billy Graham's choir tonight... :-)
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was:
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:02:55 -0500
Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > What if you do not have an NT server/PDC? I guess you are telling me I
> > must have an all Micros~1 solution for things to work properly.
>
> Create a local policy file, throw it in C:\windows for all machines.
Unmanageable.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help for MODEM
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:04:06 GMT
ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Emanuele Fabrizi wrote:
>> I have an internal modem PCI called : SupraExpress 56i V PRO
>> make by DIAMOND.
>> Under Windows98 it works : Port = COM3
>> Interrupt = 10
>> and the 'DOS Support' menu (under 'Propriety') says :
>> for DOS application : COM Port = COM3
>> Base Address(Hex) = 03e8
>> IRQ = 4.
>>
>> Under Linux (SuSE 5.3) the modem don't work.
> All the PCI modems I've ever looked at are actually 'Win Modems'. As
> far as know there is still no support for any of these modems under
> linux. Bummer, it'd be nice if they'd make a PCI modem that was non
> 'win modem'.
Under Linux, move it to another interrupt (7 is popular) and
do a setserial /dev/ttyS2 port=whatever irq=whatever uart=lookinthemanual
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Movesource Network Systems Specialist
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 & LaTeX
Date: 23 Jun 1999 20:01:11 +0200
Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > RedHat 6.0 upgrade is utterly broken, and in spite of dozens of bug
> > reports from the start, they still have not put out any official
> > notice or fix. They are really trying to set up a track record of
> > incredibly shoddy upgrades. 5.1 was very bad, and 6.0 is even worse.
>
> well, yeah, you're going down in minor releases. 4.0 sucked, 4.1 wasn't
> that bad, a fully patched 4.2 is nice and stable. same story is happening
> for 5.x and 6.x
One should mention that they got royally flamed for their quality
control for 5.1 at least, and promised they would implement structures
to avoid this in future. Fiddlesticks.
> > Not just LaTeX is affected. Dozens of packages are upgraded
> > incompletely. It is a mess.
> >
> > Try
> > rpm --verify -a
>
> IIRC, it's not that the packages are broken, it's actually that rpm
> --verify has some problems.
No, you have a problem with not reading the manpages.
rpm --verify has no problems. It does not check whether a package is
broken, it checks whether the rpm database's idea of what files are
installed and what checksums they have agrees with what indead is
installed. The packages themselves are ok, it is just that in the
course of the upgrade process, rpm converts the rpm database at an
inconvenient time and then unpleasant things happen. It is the
upgrade process that is broken, not the packages, mpt rpm --verify.
And rpm --verify -a does not check the packages, but whether the
installed image agrees with what rpm thinks it should be.
--
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Mindcraft Times Three Microsoft
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:32:57 GMT
In our last episode (21 Jun 1999 23:56:57 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Philip Brown said:
>On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:33:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>...
>>As an aside, regarding Apache, I though it was interesting to hear what the
>>Apache folks had to say about the whole affair. The main points were
>>...
>>- Speed is only useful up to a point, after than, it's just a marketing
>> tool. In tests, Apache running on a measly P166 could generate enough
>> traffic to saturate a 10Mbps Ethernet connection, so it would seem to be
>> fast enough that Apache itself wouldn't normally be the limiting factor.
>>
>
>speed is still important. In particular, I consider latency very important.
>If a web server can esily "saturate a T1", but it takes 2 seconds to deliver
>ANY page... I'm not going to use it. I would lean towards a server that gives
>at least sub-second response on most pages, with acceptible delays for
>complex CGI, etc.
Sure, no argument here. But getting into an argument about "My Ferrari is
faster than your Porsche" (or maybe a Jaguar would be a better analogy to
NT: stylish and very fast, when it works at all) when the potential user
is going to be driving on city streets is nothing more than posturing and
marketing. It's especially useless if the user is as interested in moving
four passengers and a half ton of cargo around as in getting from A to B
quickly.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mj)
Subject: Twain. Does it have any sense?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 17:07:43 GMT
Hi,
Is there any way to use TWAIN libraries under Linux? I have a "winscanner"
acer S(hit) 200, and i would like to know if i can use its twain library under
Linux, using some interpreter, converter etc. Makes it any sense?
bye.
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From: Clarence Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: umount: device is busy
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:35:53 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try: umount /mnt
Also make sure you are not in the /mnt directory when you issue the umount
command.
cgr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can't umount /dev/fd0H1722
>
> > king:/# umount /dev/fd0H1722
> > umount: /mnt: device is busy
> > king:/# fuser -v /mnt
>
> > USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
> > /mnt root kernel mount /mnt
> > king:/#
>
> > I was attempting to make a boot disk with root system and only about half
> > the files copied.
>
> > I used cp -dvpR * /mnt/
>
> > Is there anyway to force a umount?
>
> > Thanks
>
> you could do fuser -k -KILL first.
>
> --
> Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
> Movesource Network Systems Specialist
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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which is better?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:21:15 -0400
Jon Skeet wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > http://www.latech.edu/~jta001/images/BSDGirl.jpg
> > or
> > http://www.latech.edu/~jta001/images/linuxpic2.jpg
>
> Well the linux one doesn't have a spelling mistake in it, which is a good
> start...
Linux is very futuristic too, mentions Linux 6.0, gotta be years and
years
before we see that I mean we're still at 2.3.8
- Lev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Insmod 95+% CPU usage
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:08:50 GMT
> I'm running a modified version of redhat 5.1 with kernel 2.2.8, and I
> just noticed that insmod is routinely taking up 95+% of the cpu. I'm
> using modutils-2-1.121-0. Here is the output of lsmod
>
For the record, I think I've figured out my problem. I was attempting
to get a parallel port tape drive working and, well, it didn't. Below
is my /etc/conf.modules. After commenting the following lines out, and
killing the active insmod, my cpu usage dropped to normal. I can only
imagine I was attempting to fit a square peg in a round hole. Although
I'm not sure what I've got wrong. These were suggestions I had
gathered via mailing lists and newsgroups to get a tape device working
which never has.
alias char-major-27 zftape
options ftape ftp_fdc_driver=trakker,none,none,none
options trakker ft_fdc_paraport=-1 ft_fdc_base=0x378 ft_fdc_irq=0x7
ft_fdc_dma=0x3
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options lp auto
Any hints as to what was causing the problem would be appreciated.
This will probably bother me for a long time, as has setting up ftape.
Thanks,
Brian Seppanen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Equinox)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:55:58 GMT
On 17 Jun 1999 13:14:16 -0400, Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Smith) writes:
>
>> >James Beard wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >>Hi all.
>> >>
>> >>Is there is a Linux jingle? A catchy little tune?
>>
>> Has to be "All Right Now" by Free! :)
>
>Nah. :)
>
>Does anyone remember the Chock Full-o-Nuts jingle? Yes I'm serious,
>that's the name of the company. It went something like this:
>
>Chock Full-o-Nuts (said very deliberately, 5 syllables would work here)
>is that heavenly coffee.
>Better coffee a millionaire's
>money can't buy.
Remember? I can't help but remember... I hear the ($#@$&(# thing
every time I turn on the radio!
>I think it has possibilities.
>
>Maybe:
>
>The Linux OS
>is that heavenly software.
>Better software a millionaire's
>money can't buy.
Please... no...
Nothing against you, personally... but what you've chosen to work
with... good grief! The original jingle is so bloody awful that
nothing can redeem it. Let it die and be forgotten -- it's the
closest thing to a dignified end that this jingle can possibly know.
--Russell
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email (spam-disabled):
lord *underscore* equinox *at* mindspring *dot* com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To:
redhat.hardware.arch.intel,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~<
Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:07:38 GMT
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:13:46 +0400,
Yuri Voronov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hardware setup is OK. I'm using various Linuses since 1992. (or 1993).
> I've met SIG11 in the earliest versions, and on various hardware.
> Sometimes this bug escapes after kernel recompiling. I'm sure this situation
> with SIG11 caused by memory allocation bug.
No, what you are describing is a hardware failure.
The beauty of computers is that they are predictable: they will follow
the instructions given and in a case with consistent input (such as a
compile) the code path will be exactly the same.
If it was a memory allocation bug, restarting make would not change the
behavior: gcc would still follow the same code path and still encounter
the same bug.
However, it could easily be a hardware problem: one stuck bit in RAM
will screw up whatever passes through it, and because the compile will
not always be loaded into the same memory locations on successive
compiles, the behavior will change depending on where in the memory map
that bad bit appears.
Please see http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and read the FAQ then fix your
hardware. You will save yourself much grief in the long run, and enjoy
a much more stable system.
> Yours,
> ===
> Yuri.
>
> .PJ wrote:
>
> > If you recieve a signal 11 every time you are undergoing a large complile, you
> > have a hardware issue. Getting a Signal 11 every time you complile is NOT
> > normal. You should not be getting any. I highly recommend you go over your
> > hardware setup.
> >
> > PJ
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yuri Voronov wrote:
> > >Chris Kloiber wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sven Kopp wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I agree with mmb, I do have the same problems on my system.
> > >> > re-do the make, until the kernel has finished compiling (that's what I
> > >> > did), and it will work.
> > >> > Sven
> > >> >
> > >> > Serial # 0 wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sat, 22 May 1999 20:59:58 GMT, "FTP server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >I keep getting a sig11 when trying to make bzImage for my 2.2.9 kernel.
> > >> > > >Never completes the compile :(. I remember compiling kernels fine in
> > >> > > >Redhat 5.2..
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >I have a P-60 cpu.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > hi
> > >> > > i see this error when my cpufan has an error or memory chip has an
> > >> > > error
> > >> > > mmb
> > >>
> > >> Sig 11 usually indicates bad RAM.
> > >>
> > >> Chris Kloiber.
> > >
> > >Not at all. Any LARGE compilation process in RH60 (and in RH51) produces Sig
> > >11.
> > >I had to reboot to continue this compiling processes.
> > >===
> > >Y.
> > >
>
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Twain. Does it have any sense?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 14:43:57 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mj) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to use TWAIN libraries under Linux? I have a
> "winscanner" acer S(hit) 200, and i would like to know if i can use its
> twain library under Linux, using some interpreter, converter etc. Makes
> it any sense?
nope. twain has nothing to do with the actual hardware. all that twain is
is an api for how the windows applications talks to the windows drivers.
--
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paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
P.S. I suppose I really should be nicer to people today, considering
I'll be singing in Billy Graham's choir tonight... :-)
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Frampton Steve R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,fj.os.linux,japan.comp.linux
Subject: RHL 6.0: Broken Japanese text support
Date: 23 Jun 1999 14:25:32 GMT
Hello:
I am having difficulty getting Japanese support working under Red Hat 6.0.
I downloaded and installed the following packages:
kinput2-v2fix5alpha1-4.i386.rpm
kterm-6.2.0-8.i386.rpm
wnn4-4.2-7.i386.rpm
I *think* that should be good enough for rudimentary Japanese support.
Yet, when "wnn" attempts to start, it aborts with the following error:
Starting Wnn4 server:
Nihongo Multi Client Server (4.20)
: can't bind inet-socket
If I try to run "kinput2 -wnn" to enable my FEP, I get the following error
(as one would expect, given the failure of Wnn to run):
Warning: ccWnn Object: can't connect to jserver
Warning: ccWnn Object: can't connect to jserver
In addition, I downloaded and installed:
yudit-1.2-1.i386.rpm
(I prefer yudit as a Japanese-enabled text editor as opposed to vi or
emacs). When I run yudit, I just get a segmentation fault.
Any ideas as to what has changed between RH 5.2 to 6.0 that is preventing
these items from working?
Thanks in advance.
==============< LINUX: The choice of a GNU generation. >==============
Steve Frampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://qlink.queensu.ca/~3srf
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From: Joshua Grauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:32:47 -0700
> there are two visual programming enviroment in develop
> grad is for the gnome/gtk-toolkit and
> a similar programm for kde/qt-toolkit
Anyone know where I can get this? I couldn't find an entry in the
Linux Software Map. Thanks.
Joshua Grauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> >Delphi and C++ Builder in the past to create simple windows apps and was
> >wondering if there is something similar for linux and X. (C/C++ is
> >preferable)
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Joshua Grauman
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux News Server
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:37:46 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to find free or inexpensive news server for Linux (Redhat).
> What are my options? I have only found one (DNEWS) so far.
Depending on how extravagant you want to be, there's also
inn (full service) or leafnode (lightweight). Maybe others
as well...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Greg Jednaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: go back and forward in directory tree
Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:56:06 GMT
if you type
cd -
that will take you to the directory you were previously in. I'm pretty
sure that it works in bash.
-greg jednaszewski
: Hello,
: Is there (preferrably in bash) a way to browse the directory tree like
: you do with webpages? I mean going back to the previously visited
: directory,...
: I remember vaguely having read about something like this and it will
: probably be a very simple command... but I can't find it. I'm not even
: sure it had to do with bash or even linux.
: --
: Groeten,
: Vic
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: --
: ** has anybody seen my 'soffice' file? I've lost it during installation
: **
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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:19:23 +1200
Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Stuart Fox wrote:
> >
> > Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > What if you do not have an NT server/PDC? I guess you are telling me
I
> > > must have an all Micros~1 solution for things to work properly.
> >
> > Create a local policy file, throw it in C:\windows for all machines.
>
> Unmanageable.
Are you telling me that Samba couldn't do this?
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:51:16 GMT
+-----On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:32:47 -0700, Joshua Grauman spoke unto us:----------
| > there are two visual programming enviroment in develop
| > grad is for the gnome/gtk-toolkit and
| > a similar programm for kde/qt-toolkit
| Anyone know where I can get this? I couldn't find an entry in the
| Linux Software Map. Thanks.
Try:
http://www.penguin.cz/~grad/
--
"If you're ever giving a speech, when you start out, act nervous and get
mixed up a little bit. Then, as you go along, get better and better.
Then, at the end, give off a white, glowing light and have rays shoot out
of you." --Jack Handey
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From: Rajarshi Bandyopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Garbage in floating point numbers?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:32:57 +0000
Hi all,
Please take a look at the following 3-line program.
main(){
float t=0.001;
float u=1/t;
printf("%f\n",u); //u expected to be 1000
}
The actual output is 999.999939.
On debugging using gdb, we find that t is actually assigned as
0.00100000005. This seems to be the cause of the discrepancy.
What is the reason for this garbage at the tail of the fp number?
I am writing a program which depends on the precise values of fp
numbers and this problem is f****ing it all up!
How do I get around it?
TIA,
Rajarshi
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From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: 23 Jun 1999 16:01:42 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Equinox) writes:
> >Does anyone remember the Chock Full-o-Nuts jingle? Yes I'm serious,
> >that's the name of the company. It went something like this:
[lyrics snipped]
> Remember? I can't help but remember... I hear the ($#@$&(# thing
> every time I turn on the radio!
Hey, I grew up in NYC, the Chock Full-o-Nuts capital of the world
(pun intended). There were actual Chock Full-o-Nuts coffee shops,
and the jingle was everywhere. It's one of the few aspects of the
70's (the decade of Very Bad Taste) I remember fondly. :)
> >I think it has possibilities.
> >Maybe:
[modified lyrics snipped]
> Please... no...
No sense of humor. :)
> Nothing against you, personally... but what you've chosen to work
> with... good grief! The original jingle is so bloody awful that
> nothing can redeem it. Let it die and be forgotten -- it's the
> closest thing to a dignified end that this jingle can possibly know.
Yes, I know it's damn awful. But then jingles *are* awful. All of
them. Inherently. If you sink low enough to have/use a jingle, you have
to face up to the fact that it's going to be awful.
The question is, is it cute, infectious and fun? ;) Some things that are
awful can still be fun. IMO, this is one of them. :)
-Greg
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