Linux-Misc Digest #904, Volume #18 Thu, 4 Feb 99 21:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Opinions about LyX? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: What's the linux equivalent of the StartUp folder? (Douglas Loss)
Re: Environment variables and C (Martin Ambuhl)
Re: Is TurboLinux glibc2 based? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Environment variables and C ("J. Benz")
Is non-contiguous disk space bad? (Chris Plachta)
Re: setting up ftp (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: > 64MB RAM (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Matthias Warkus)
Re: syslogd and high cpu loads (Frank J. Dziuba)
Re: Boot managers ("Steve D. Perkins")
Quicken-Like App? ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
Re: Wich Linux shouls I install (Ian Briggs)
Re: Opinions about LyX? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: use theramin as input device (steve mcadams)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Nick Coleman)
Re: Q: How do I stop a 4:02 AM scheduled mystery process? (Seth Van Oort)
Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2! (kingman cheung)
Re: Quicken-Like App? (Ian Briggs)
Re: Quicken-Like App? (Ian Briggs)
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:52:55 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [...]
>
> For people who want to redefine layouts, styles and things, it's not so
> good, tough. Latex output by default looks a bit like a fifties
> American scientific journal, and I haven't found a way to get Lyx
> produce something looking like a nineties novel...
My research group has a couple of LaTeX layouts that are "standards" for
the group, and I didn't have too much trouble hacking out identical layouts
for LyX. I had to learn a bit of LaTeX to do it, but I mostly just
incorporated the existing LaTeX specifications into my new LyX
specifications.
To see how it's done, look at /usr/local/share/lyx/textclass.lst and you'll
see a list of the furnished layouts. The first column is the name of a
.layout file in the layouts subdirectory. You can trace out the basic
logic by looking at one of those files. To create a new one, just clone
one of those files with a new file name and a new name in the second line
of the file, reconfigure LyX to let it know your file is there, and then
start making incremental changes until you have things the way you want
them.
For example, copy article.layout to my-article.layout, and in the latter
change line 2 -
# \DeclareLaTeXClass{article}
to
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article]{my-article}
and you'll have a clone of the default 'article' that you can start
experimenting with, without risking any harm to the original. You'll need
to look at some of the other files to see what you actually need to change,
e.g. the very important Preamble..EndPreamble where you'll insert most of
your LaTeX code does not show up in article.layout, but can be seen in some
of the other .layout files.
The above refers to LyX v. 0.12 as installed in the default location; I
have not had time to upgrade to v. 1.0 yet, so it's possible that things
have changed.
I would be happy to post an example, if someone could recommend the
appropriate newsgroup. (Also, maybe I should wait until I've seen whether
my example will work with v. 1.0.)
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Loss)
Subject: Re: What's the linux equivalent of the StartUp folder?
Date: 5 Feb 1999 00:28:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brent Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm trying to get linux to run a small program in the background
> every time I log in and I was wondering how I would do that.
> Suggestions?
>
Put "exec <program_name>" at the bottom of your .bashrc file.
--
Doug Loss Democracy substitutes election by the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] incompetent many for appointment by
(717) 326-3987 the corrupt few.
George Bernard Shaw
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From: Martin Ambuhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Environment variables and C
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:15:08 -0500
"Paul D. Smith" wrote:
> *Shrug* I'm reading it from gnu.gcc.help and I think it's perfectly
> appropriate to discuss POSIX
putenv() is not POSIX, so even that argument falls on it face.
More to the point: when articles are cross-posted, the topicality is
the intersection of those for the newsgroups posted to, not the union.
If this were not the case, usenet as a whole would become the cesspool
that comp.lang.c++ has become, because a few additional cross-postings
would make anything on topic.
(after all, legend has it RMS coined the
> term! :) and SingleUNIX there. putenv() and char**environ _do_ exist in
> GLIBC, after all.
I also use glibc, but I know better than to think its non-standard
features are topical in comp.lang.c.
>
> Additionally, I don't think comp.lang.c means you're only talking about
> ANSI/ISO C.
You are almost wrong. It also includes discussion when necessary about
K&R C.
> If that's true, then what's the difference between
> comp.lang.c and comp.std.c? If we were on the latter, I'd agree
> whole-heartedly.
You need to check the newsgroups before presenting such uninformed
views. comp.std.c is about what the standard should be or, in cases of
ambiguity, is. comp.lang.c is about the use of the language, which is,
after all, defined by the language.
>
> I'd expect comp.lang.c to conver all different sorts of C and lots of
> different standards--and even non-standard (but common) usages.
You would be wrong, wouldn't you. Take a look at comp.lang.c++ to see
where that would take you.
>
> That's one of the main reasons I don't read it anymore :).
Then you left for the wrong reason.
--
Martin Ambuhl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] will soon be inactive
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is TurboLinux glibc2 based?
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:18:21 GMT
In article <QDlu2.3019$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is your opinion of TurboLinux?
>
Well, I am a newbie to Linux - come from DRDOS - OS/2 world and I was about
to totally give up on Linux until I loaded Turbo Linux. For a new user I
don't think there is an easier to install distribnution, nor one that is as
user friendly in configerations. It found my Mach64 video and properly setup
X without me having to fiddle with the config file at all. It set up PPP
corectly. It has a wimdow manager cfg that allows easy switching between all
installed window managers/environments. It has quite a few other menu-driven
cfg programs.
For me, I am well pleased with it. There is a newsgroup
alt.os.linux.turbolinux where you can get quick answers to any problems.
Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have yet to run across a distribution that I am truely happy with. I keep
> finding myself back with Slackware. I want glibc though, so I have to roll
> my own, and I usually break Slackware at some point (compiling some system
> tool or other). I am looking for security (i.e. PAM), stability, and ease
> of configuration (manual - using text - not RedHat's method).
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <79chh2$okr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >yes it is, and it also has libc5 but I had to use
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/libc5 ./acrossl
> >to get across lite to load.
> >
> >Jim
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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>
>
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:14:06 -0500
From: "J. Benz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Environment variables and C
Paul D. Smith wrote:
> Additionally, I don't think comp.lang.c means you're only talking about
> ANSI/ISO C. If that's true, then what's the difference between
> comp.lang.c and comp.std.c? If we were on the latter, I'd agree
> whole-heartedly.
>
> I'd expect comp.lang.c to conver all different sorts of C and lots of
> different standards--and even non-standard (but common) usages.
>
> That's one of the main reasons I don't read it anymore :).
And doesn't *this* sound familiar...
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From: Chris Plachta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is non-contiguous disk space bad?
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:39:48 -0800
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone could explain to me what it means when fsck
reports that a percentage of a partition is non-contiguous. Is this a
bad thing? Should I re-format and reinstall if I have a certain
percentage of non-contiguous data on my disk??
Thanks.
--
Chris Plachta
Alcatel USA
Phone: 707-792-7271
FAX: 707-792-6310
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: setting up ftp
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:42:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Walker wrote:
>hello,
>
>How would I go about setting up user ftp (non-anonymous) on a debian 2.0
>box?
It depends on how secure you want to have it 8) ... I once used wu-ftpd,
now proftpd and you might read (say, you *shall* read) the ...
anonymous_ftp_config and anonymous_ftp_abuses
... files from http://www.cert.org.
*Very* helpful, really. If you cannot set it up with them you should just
give up 8)
If you want to go with proftpd, drop me a mail (hey, another idea for
my home page) and I will send you my configuration file or just read
the documentation, it is very extensive.
Cheers,
Juergen
--
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\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
\ Phone Private : +44 181-332 0750 \ /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: > 64MB RAM
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:32:12 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 04 Feb 1999 02:40:16 +0000...
..and Steve D. Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[schnibble]
Nobody makes you use KDE.
mawa
--
The Bundeswehr? I don't have any problems with the Bundeswehr. After
all, what possible harm could an army do where soldiers don't need to
have their hair cut and where they play _Sailing_ for the Grand Tattoo?
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:59:26 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 03 Feb 1999 02:12:38 GMT...
..and Andy Wendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (very much tongue in cheek)
>
> Why the United States is better than:
[schnibble]
> Argentina: Too close to the south pole... the seasons are backwards...
> too many trees, too much wildlife...(although the girls there are
> really really cute, and there are lots of pretty tropical fish)
:)
I suppose it gets really, really cold in Argentina, too... In that
respect, it's just like Finland.
mawa
--
I refuse to consign the whole male sex to the nursery. I insist on
believing that some men are my equals.
-- Brigid Brophy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank J. Dziuba)
Subject: Re: syslogd and high cpu loads
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:09:13 GMT
Jukka Timonen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: High CPU time is system mode is explained by syslogd sync()'ing after every
: line logged. You can omit syncing by prefixing filenames with "-" in
: syslog.conf.
:
: t.
: --Jukka
:
That's it! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
Where the heck is that documented??
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot managers
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:12:30 -0500
The best boot manager that I've ever worked with is MastBooter
(http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/mrbooter.html)... I especially like it's ability to
"hide" partitions that aren't in use, which can be useful for dual-booting with
Windows NT & 95 and other operating systems that have to think they're on the
first partition.
The free unregistered version allows you to have up to three different OS's,
the $20 registered version allows up to six.
Steve
Theo van der Merwe wrote:
> How do I boot of a specific partion on a specific drive? My ROM bios does
> not have the option to boot of either SCSI or IDE yet. What I am looking for
> is a simple boot manager that can redirect and boot of any other hard drive
> (more specifically any partition on a hard drive and any operation system -
> DOS,Win95/8, WinNT, Linux...). What software is currently available to do
> this?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Best regards,
> Theo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quicken-Like App?
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:13:08 -0600
Hello,
Is there a Quicken-like application for Linux?
--
Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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From: Ian Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wich Linux shouls I install
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:41:03 +0000
Francois Beauregard wrote:
> I am looking forward to install Linux on my computer.
> I am hesitating between SuSE 5.3 and RedHat 5.2.
> The window manager is an important feature for me.
> I have seen the KDE desktop wich ships with SuSE and it looks really great.
> My question is what are the Window Managers that ships with RedHat 5.2 ?
As a complete newbie, I installed RedHat 5.2, buying the boxed set so I had an
installation manual to go with it -- and it installed without any problems.
I know for certain it comes with WindowMaker and AfterStep, and it's extremely
easy to switch from the default window manager to either of these -- both of
which look pretty elegant.
Good luck!
-- Ian --
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:16:05 -0600
QM wrote:
> Hi, I'll need to write my thesis (subject is a math/engineering one) soon and
> I was thinking about using LyX, instead of latex directly. Can anyone offer
> any opinions about LyX, as I don't want to get my fingers burnt at a stage
> late into my thesis. Thanks very much.
A word of caution, even though I am very much pro-LyX. Sign up for their
mailing list and/or check the list archive to make sure it handles large
documents OK. Under v. 0.12 there were some reports of people having problems
with dissertation-sized documents due to some kind of boundary condition. (Too
many chapters? Too many consecutively numbered figures? Sorry, I don't
remember the details.)
I don't intend this as anti-LyX FUD, and I wholeheartedly recommend that you
give LyX a try, but I don't want you to get burnt at that late stage. I trust
that the problems have been worked out for v. 1.0, but you should at least look
in to it.
And don't be bashful about posting any concerns to the lyx-users list. The
developers follow the discussions, and are very sensitive to user requirements.
All-in-all, a very helpful group.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:48:43 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:51:00 -0800, Eric Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>. A novel idea, but just plain silly.
I love this; the ultimate pointing and typing device called silly. <g>
Hello, wake up and take a breath of fresh future! Relax, pretend you
are thinking instead of just posting!
Whaddya wave around to make the threamin whistle? Your hands.
Whaddya work the mouse with? Your fingers.
Whaddya type the keyboard with? Your fingers.
What pisses you off more than having to constantly switch back and
forth between the mouse and the keyboard? (in my case damn little)
With an appropriate theramin array (as in 20 or so tiny theramins,
appropriately spaced) and appropriate software (that could recognize a
finger movement from its theramin channelt) we are talking about a
device that would let you type on thin air, point to your selections,
and exercise your fingers at the same time.
Sorry man, I don't see the ultimate combined keyboard, mouse,
ttouchscreen, and lightpen as "silly". You just said that because you
thought it was a great idea and wanted to provoke discussion, right?
-steve
========================================================
so what? - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: Nick Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:26:51 +1100
Jim Ross wrote:
[snip]
> PPP works in Windows, in Linux for me it does not. Maybe I
> could do even more to fix it, but the need is why Linux is not ready. I do
> not want to have to troubleshoot it. I shouldn't have to.
> Jim
You know, I shake my head in amazement every time I read about PPP
problems in Linux. I used kppp after I installed KDE (but you don't
need to have KDE to use kppp) and it installed new ISP accounts, up and
running, in, maybe, five minutes? Maybe three? Even easier than Dial-Up
Networking in Win95, because the scripting tool is easier to use.
Just use kppp. It's that simple.
Cheers
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: How do I stop a 4:02 AM scheduled mystery process?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:56:02 +0000
Kurt Gray wrote:
>
> Please help! I'm running Red Hat Linux 5.2 on a Pentium 166 with
> a 4GB SCSI internal drive, 32 MB of RAM, and 128 MB swap.
>
> My file ext2 system is getting trashed and the cuplrit appears
> to be some mystery process that launches itself at 4:02 AM everyday.
>
> Here is a part of the /var/log/messages file:
>
> Feb 3 04:02:06 linux3 PAM_pwdb[22026]: (su) session opened
> for user nobody by (uid=99)
>
> Feb 3 04:02:09 linux3 kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:01):
4:02am is when daily cron jobs get run. Look in /etc/cron.daily.
updatedb is probably the big one.
Seth
> ext2_readdir: bad entry in directory #395267: ...
>
> Feb 3 04:02:09 linux3 kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:01):
> ext2_find_entry: bad entry in directory #395267:...
>
> Feb 3 04:02:09 linux3 PAM_pwdb[22026]: (su) session
> closed for user nobody
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. How can I track down which script, process,
> or daemon is spawning this process at 4:02 AM?? I checked
> the spool/cron/ directory and it's empty. My only other guess
> is that it's a daemon.
>
> 2. Given just an inode number for a file or directory,
> how can I get the pathname of the file or directory?
>
> I suspected the named daemon was somehow involved so
> I removed and killed a some unused dameons out of my
> /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ directory, but I hope someone can answer
> the two questions above.
>
> Thanks
> Kurt
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kingman cheung)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2!
Date: 4 Feb 1999 17:46:32 -0800
In article <rOju2.2986$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas T. Veldhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You can use the regular Kernel source. Just edit your /etc/lilo.conf file
>to use the vmlinuz in you / directory. RedHat has some stupid idea to name
>the kernel vmlinuz-2.0.36-1 or something and then they put it in the /boot
>directory to top it off. If you change your /etc/lilo.conf file instead,
>you can alway compile the new source and not have to make changes to the
>Makefile everytime, or anything else.
I have deleted almost all lines, but kept a few to indicate the message.
Just from the subject of the message, it seems that the original guy, who
posted the question, may not have read the CHANGE file in Documentation
directory. Apparently, a number of RPM packages of RedHat 5.2 has to be
updated in order to run 2.2.x kernels. One example I remember is
the modutils-2.1.xxx. There are some others needed to be updated as well.
Hope it helps.
--
kingman
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From: Ian Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quicken-Like App?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 02:03:02 +0000
"Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." wrote:
> Is there a Quicken-like application for Linux?
Have you visited http://gnucash.org (or something like that)?
-- Ian --
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From: Ian Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quicken-Like App?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 02:05:32 +0000
Actually that should be http://www.gnucash.org, shouldn't it?
-- Ian --
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