Linux-Misc Digest #904, Volume #19 Mon, 19 Apr 99 18:13:13 EDT
Contents:
gcc compatibility with glibc (Stefano Casadei)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet? (K Lee)
Re: jdk 1.2 (Markus Heinz)
Re: Using Linux as a Solaris install-server. Almost there! (Chris Studholme)
Re: gcc compatibility with glibc ("David Z. Maze")
How to setup news (innd) under Red Hat 5.2 ? (pointer to HOWTO would be fine) (Kenny
McCormack)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Bill Frisbee")
Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Drake)
Re: Remote boot in linux (Branimir Dolicki)
Re: Hardware Advice Please! ("x")
Re: Sendmail Alias DB problems... Try #2... (Andrzej Filip)
Kernel Tunables (Christopher Paluch)
Telnetd checking hostname ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Running a linux FTP through an ISP's Firewall ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
problems with minicom? (thinks i am already online?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LI problem. (dagger)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("D. Vrabel")
Re: New Linux user learning fast (Andy Piper)
postscript problems (John Molitor)
Re: microsoft bus mouse (Mark Nielsen)
Re: 3com / US robotics 56K (Mark Nielsen)
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From: Stefano Casadei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.devel,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: gcc compatibility with glibc
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:18:18 -0400
Hello,
to my dismay, when I tried to compile my large software package
with linux 5.2 I realized that the new compiler / gclib library
is *not* compatible with the source code I have written during
all these years. What is worse, it also seems to be extremely hard if
not impossible to install the good old gcc 2.7.2.1 on RedHat 5.2.
Does anyone have any suggestions ?
Thanks.
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best regards,
Stefano
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From: K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.database.oracle
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:41:05 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Phillip W Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <01be89ee$6008e510$24921e18@box1>, Lesser wrote:
: >I haven't gotten mine yet. I was wondering if anyone else has though.
: Not me, I'm still waiting too.
Can you please kindly answer these for me?
How do I obtain this?
Would I have to pay for it? Or is this a trial version?
Is it the full version with the "Oracle8 on Linux Enterprise Edition" and
"Oracle Application Server on Linux"?
Can this run on 2.2.* kernels as well? (I noticed that it only mentioned
2.0.6 =< version on the http://technet.oracle.com site.
Are there any Oracle installation, maintenance sites? I have a working
knowledge in pl/sql, oracle forms and reports on Solaris systems, but I've
no clue on installing and maintenance on Linux at all.
Sorry for not having an answer but rather a whole bunch of questions, but
I'd sure appreciate it if you could let me know. Thank you very much in
advance.
Steve
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From: Markus Heinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jdk 1.2
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:49:42 +0200
Hello,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Has jdk 1.2 for Linux been released?
yes, it has been released. Have a look at http://www.blackdown.org
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Studholme)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Solaris install-server. Almost there!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:29:01 GMT
Hi,
I'm the one who wrote the article mentioned in this post. From what I know
of NFS, buffer size is set on the client. Since the Linux machine is acting
as a server, there are no settings to tweak. For NFS version 2, the buffer
size should be 8k, but the Linux implementation (of the client) uses 1k by
default. I'm not sure if it is possible to pass NFS options to Solaris when
mounting the root directory over NFS. Also, I was using the Linux NFS server
implementation that runs in user space. The new 2.2 kernels have an NFS server
that runs in kernel space. From what I understand, this is an entirely new
implementation and may cure the problem I had (but I'm not going to test it).
When compiling a 2.2 kernel, you not only have the option of compiling in the
NFS server, but you also get to choose whether or not the server should act
like a Sun NFS server. This could help.
Chris.
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:08:42 -0500, Thomas Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sorry this is so long. I got the following article from
>http://www.bus.ualberta.ca/cstudhol/unix/Solaris-Linux-NetInstall.html
>(thanks for pointing it out, Darrell). I am trying to get a Linux box to
>serve as an install server for a new (to me) Sparcbook 3GX I just bought. I
>have the Solaris 2.6 CD, but no CDROM drive for the Sparcbook. I know, a
>surplus or used CDROM drive would be cheap, but how would that expand my
>little mind? >grin<
>
>In the article below, the author *almost* made this setup work. Seems he
>ran into an NFS issue. Now I know Linux NFS is very forgiving. I hear
>Solaris NFS is not. I think I remember seeing that Solaris NFS uses a
>different buffer size from Linux. Is it possible that the buffer size is
>different between the Lin-box and the Sol-box? Anyone know what can be done
>on the Linux box to make it export data in a format that the Solaris box
>will understand? I looked through the man page for mount on the Lin-box,
>and it indicated that the default buffer size is 1024. What is it on
>Solaris? How can I change it, and should I change it on the Lin-box or the
>Sol-box?
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.devel,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: gcc compatibility with glibc
Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:21:53 -0400
Stefano Casadei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SC> to my dismay, when I tried to compile my large software package
SC> with linux 5.2 I realized that the new compiler / gclib library
SC> is *not* compatible with the source code I have written during
SC> all these years.
How is it failing? Your source should be compatible if you've
restricted yourself to "standard" functions (e.g. POSIX functions,
Xlib, Xt, etc.). Using functions internal to libc (that start with an
underscore, for example) will invariably cause problems. Depending on
a header file in the linux/ tree can cause problems as well; you
should try to switch to a standard header file, if possible.
It might be easier to help if you described some of the specific
problems you were having, posted source, error messages, etc.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to setup news (innd) under Red Hat 5.2 ? (pointer to HOWTO would be fine)
Date: 19 Apr 1999 15:26:40 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I installed RH 5.2 on a machine, and installed "Everything", which
includes the News server stuff. However, I didn't see any way to do
the configuration. I get processes running and messages in the
various log files that indicate that it is running but it doesn't seem
to be doing anything useful. It seems to be polling various old
newsservers (which probably aren't even active anymore), such as
news.dec.com and so on.
Where should I look? (I tried Linuxconf; but it had nothing to do
with news)
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From: "Bill Frisbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:36:01 -0400
Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ffs7k$c8e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy Bill Frisbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Yeah, if they don't want us, we don't want them. I won't buy a card that
> doesn't support my OS. If I can't use it, what good is it? We have to
> have the source to put it in the kernel, so I really don't see your
argument.
> As for my SB16, there isn't any difference really in my playback other
> that the signal / noise ratio. As for speakers, mine work just fine.
> No reason to get new ones.
Exactly my point, but unlike you I have encountered far too many Slashdot
longhairs (very similar to being called a WinTroll, a Mircosoft Shrill ect.)
who think that they don't need this hardware. I DO NEED it. If my hardware
is not supported in an OS, I sure the hell am not going to use it.
> Notepad is just edit for Windows. Use pico, vi, emacs, or any one of the
> other millions of editors in Linux. Most Linux editors have some features
> that Notepad doesn't as well.
VI? Come on give me a break I have used it... you cannot tell me VI is
easier than Notepad.
> C++ is OOP, Java is available and OLE is kind of like Corba
Yes it is OOP, but not at the level of MFC regardless of what people think
of MS, MFC does make things A LOT easier.
Java2 IS NOT available for Linux. And Corba is KIND of like OLE but not the
same.
> I can't stand any of the current flight sims (F-19 stealth fighter ruled
> on my 8086). I love games too and that is the big weakness of Linux. It's
> the only reason I keep Wintendo around.
I however like em a lot. EAW and WW2 Fighters are two of the best WW2 flight
sims to see the light of day, then Falcon4, Janes F-15 and TAW all are the
current champs in the jet market. This are REAL sims, not games for the most
part (well WW2 fighters is very gamish in nature but the graphics are
unbeliveable).
> "Slashdot longhairs". Sounds like a stereotype to me. Nothing wrong
> with Slashdot or long hair. It might not kill MS, but maybe it will
> force them to release decent end-user OS (can't comment on NT). As for
> Linux being a good OS, it does what I need (except games) so it's fine
> for me. YMMV.
Sure something is wrong with /. the general consensus there it to blow up
Microsoft and kill Bill Gates. I love watching the disribution battles and
the GUI vs CLI stuff...
And linux DOES NOTHING that I need it to. Hell I have been using it since
Slackware 1.2 (I THINK it was) and keep current running RedHat 5.2 and SuSE
6.0 currently. But it STILL is not for me or most people.
Bill F.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory?
Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:37:37 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (G�rard Milmeister) writes:
> I on the contrary have relocated anything not directly related to
> system tools to /opt.
Which is the smart thing to do, especially on a separate partition,
this allows for easy upgrades. I have /opt /local /home /usr /var /tmp
all on its own partitions.
regards,
--
Tom Evans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Drake)
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:42:48 GMT
In article <7f450j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>It's easier for most users to start with the mouse, and then learn keyboard
>shortcuts as they go along. It is best to have either option at all times,
>and not be limited to typing in commands, or "mousing around." Most major
>Windows apps run that way because they have keyboard functionality that's
>held over from DOS, and Macs were purposely designed that way from the
>outset. X apps seem to be far less consistent in their support for both.
As I recall, IBM is resposible for the idea that GUI apps should have
consistent keyboard functionality that allows the user to user either the
mouse or the keyboard (or both).
They told MS that was they way to do it, and MS stuck with it (and
expanded on it, for the Windows accessibility model)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branimir Dolicki)
Subject: Re: Remote boot in linux
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:38:40 GMT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:14:21 GMT, F. Paulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am a student, and for a school work I wanted to submit a theoretical
>network using Linux. For the network, I wanted to use about 30 computers
>without floppy (the network being for a class room, no floppy means no virus
>form students) and because I needed to run several softwares on win95, I
>wanted to make windoze remote-boot on the Linux server to avoid the nightmare
>of having a station crashes with no floppy drive on it. I know that remote
>boot is possible, but is it possible to do it like this? I don't need to
>know how...yet :). All I need is to know if it's possible to do it like this.
Are you sure Win95 can boot over the newtork? I don't think so.
Why not install Linux on all the 30 computers, or even better,
turn them to diskless workstations (you can drop HD, too), or
use them as X terminals, or...
-- B
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From: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
de.markt.comp.hardware,tw.bbs.comp.hacker,comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardware Advice Please!
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:27:45 +0200
> From what I've heard hardware prices can vary significantly from Europe
> to North America. You might want to consider a **reputable** North
> American vendor and have them ship.
any suggestion ?
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From: Andrzej Filip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Sendmail Alias DB problems... Try #2...
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:24:20 +0200
Some URLs:
http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.7
http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html
news:comp.mail.sendmail
In short: if your mapping is one->one use virtusertable.
Try to use standard ways - it will increase you chances of
getting help.
Of course it can be done exactly the way you want it to
but is requires some small non standard changes in sendmail.cf
(The way I think of can not be done via provided *.mc files).
--
"Andrzej (Andrew) A. Filip" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Consultant
business contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.anfi
Posting history (all addresses):
http://www.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=Andrzej%20Filip&ST=PS
Nathan Ranger wrote:
> I help a local ISP with some of their systems. Lately, the sysadmin and
> I have been trying to get multiple domains to work with multiple
> duplicate aliases. Here is what we want to do:
>
> Domain xyz.com and domain abc.com (via the DNS MX entries) go to the
> same machine (ie: Cwxyz.com and Cwabc.com are in the sendmail.cf)
> however, both companies want a "sales@..." e-mail address. So, in the
> /etc/aliase file I put:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:xyzguy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:abcguy
>
> However, when I do a "newaliases" is reports that there is a duplicate
> aliases entry and only obeys one of them.
>
> Are there any special characters I can put in the aliase file to take
> care of this or some M4 mods that I can do in the .cf file? We're losing
> customers to the NT guys down the street because of it.
>
> -NR
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From: Christopher Paluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Tunables
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:02:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am running RedHat 5.2 and I have a couple of questions:
1) I just upgraded to the 2.5.5 kernel. Now when I try to run the
Kernel Daemon Configuration from under gnome, I get the error message
/boot/module-info.2.2.5 not found. How does one get that file created??
2) I've installed Informix on my linux box. Informix's release notes
make recommendations about system tunables for semaphores and shared
memory. How does one check the current values and modify them under
Linux?
Thanks,
Christopher Paluch
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Telnetd checking hostname
Date: 19 Apr 1999 13:00:29 -0400
Is there a way to turn off this feature...I have to sit and wait for
a minute or 2 waiting for the DNS query to timeout.
--
Tom Evans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Running a linux FTP through an ISP's Firewall
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:25:11 GMT
In article <7et3q2$rbc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have been trying to set up an FTP server on my ADSL line. My ISP, Telus,
> has a firewall and I needed to bypass it as it would not take standard port
> connections (ie. 21 for FTP and 20 for FTP data channel). I found the
> appropriate services on my linux box and successfully changed the port
> addresses. Now my FTP is operating on ports 2121 FTP and 2120 FTP-data.
> Everything appeared to be going fine until I asked some of my friends to test
> it. My friends with dial-up connections were able to connect on these higher
> port connections under active FTP mode (but not passive), but my friends with
> cable modems and ADSL lines could login, but could not get a directory
> listing to appear under either active or passive FTP modes. This may be due
> to an illegal port connection error message which shows up.
>
> I speculate that the problem has to do with the fact that the computers are
> trying to connect with IP addresses that are their home computers and not the
> Internet's IP address. Another Problem that i noticed was that when a
> computer tries to connect over the internet via passive mode it uses the IP
> address of my linux box's external interface (the network card that connects
> me to my cable modem) and not the Internet IP address that is assigned to me
> by Telus (the one people connect to).
>
> How can I get my friends with Cable/ADSL lines to connect? (With linux and
> Windows 98)
>
> Sincerely,
> Jeff
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
Well it could be something to do with getting an IP address forwarding thingy.
It might also be helpful if you got input from someone other than yourself as
you keep telling yourself things you already know.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: problems with minicom? (thinks i am already online?)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:33:35 GMT
Hi, i just installed the current slackware no problem (or so i thought) and
was quite happy with it. Then i tried minicom. In the past i just dialed up
to my school shell account with minicom no problem but i tried this time and
it told me "you are already online!" well i had tried to dial up one time
previously but it never connected... i thought no problem so i did ^A h it
said that it hung up and i tried agian, well it said i was still online... so
i rebooted and then tried again, again i get the same response from minicom.
I have never had this problem before so any recomendations would be greatly
appricated!
thank you,
-Gaiko
Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dagger)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: LI problem.
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:02:06 +1000
In article <01be8a43$b9807cc0$5fa7868b@bsm>, "Brett McSweeney"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am currently installing Redhat 5.2 on a 486DX2/33, everything has
>> installed fine - but when it tries to boot off the hardrive it hangs at
>> where the LILO: prompt should be at LI
>>
>> If I boot off the install floppy and enter vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1
>> read-only at the boot: prompt, it boots off the hardrive fine.
>>
>> Any reccomendations on how to fix this? It's only a 520mb drive (485
>> extended partition, and 32mb swap) so I doubt it suffers from the
>> too-many-cylenders problem.
>>
>> The other thing is, this machine only has 10mb of physical RAM - but this
>> shouldn't be a problem?
>>
>
>For what its worth, I had the same symptom...
>
>By mistake I had used boot=hda5 in /etc/lilo.conf
> (I have Windows on the first partition).
>This stopped LILO at LI as in your problem because it tried
>to boot off the fifth partition rather than off the MBR.
>
>All I had to do to fix it was delete the 5, ie use boot=hda in the
>lilo.conf file.
>
>Brett McSweeney
It's set to boot off /dev/hda1, when i boot off the disk and enter vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda1 read-only at the boot prompt, it loads fine. :\
Thanks anyway,
--
dagger
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Too much blood in my caffeine system...)
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:26:27 +0100
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Bill Frisbee wrote:
> > C++ is OOP, Java is available and OLE is kind of like Corba
>
> Yes it is OOP, but not at the level of MFC regardless of what people think
C++ is an object orientated programming language. MFC (Microsoft
Foundation classes(?)) is a class library written in C++ (?).
> of MS, MFC does make things A LOT easier.
> Java2 IS NOT available for Linux. And Corba is KIND of like OLE but not the
> same.
wrt Java I'd check out http://www.blackdown.org/
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux user learning fast
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:18:12 +0000
Jon Beckett wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:12:45 +1200, Lloyd Weehuizen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I suggest you have a look at KDE or GNOME ;) They're MUCH nicer then Fvwm2,
Not that I'm trying to muddy the water any further or
anything ;-) - Could I just say that WindowMaker is
*excellent*, and also provides the "graphical"
configuration-type tools that you seem to be looking for.
And it is highly stable on my machine, no worries at all
with it. Of course, it is also the official GNUstep window
manager :-)
Andy
--
Andy Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire
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From: John Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: postscript problems
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:23:43 +0000
Everyone,
When I view a postscript I created using dvips from LaTeX, it looks fine
in my Linux box.
When I ftp it to another unix box on campus (Sun or SGI), the margins
get messed up.
Specifically, the top margin is very small. When I ftp the same file
back to my Linux
box, everything is fine. Is there something wrong the Linux version of
Ghostscript?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Sincerely,
John Molitor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Nielsen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: microsoft bus mouse
Date: 19 Apr 1999 17:03:09 -0400
I have had problems where if you don't have the mouse plugged in or
where it doens't work, Xwindows won't start. Serial mice are the type
of mice I prefer to use.
Mark
--
Mark Nielsen "Where 98 has no meaning."
www.tcu-inc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Computer Underground, Inc. 614-485-0506
computers, programming, networking, Perl, PHP, SQL, HTMl, Linux, Unix
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Nielsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: 3com / US robotics 56K
Date: 19 Apr 1999 17:01:49 -0400
i might be jumping into the middle of the conversation, but I sell USR
robotics modems are $84 that are jumperable for com1 and com2. I also sell
an external modem and a cheaper internal modem.
I am sure if you went to pricewatch ot pricescan, you can find it cheaper.
Mark
--
Mark Nielsen "Where 98 has no meaning."
www.tcu-inc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Computer Underground, Inc. 614-485-0506
computers, programming, networking, Perl, PHP, SQL, HTMl, Linux, Unix
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