Linux-Misc Digest #933, Volume #18                Sat, 6 Feb 99 20:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: [Q] HP CD-Writer on Parallel Port (Dave Ringkor)
  Re: 2.2.1 - modprobe won't work (Roy Stogner)
  Re: > 64MB RAM (Ben Russo)
  Re: Window Maker prefs undocked! (David M. Cook)
  Re: KDE kvt copy/paste question (Ben Russo)
  Re: xforms ?? (Tim Laursen)
  Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5 (Paul Taylor)
  SMP + 2.21 = Corrupted Filesystem (Troy Beukema)
  Re: X and ATI Rage IIc AGP (Doug Maine)
  Re: loading zipdrive support: parport , parport_pc,sd_mod, ppa (Brian Luczkiewicz)
  How to set screen-blanking. (garv)
  Window Maker prefs undocked! (Ruairi McFarlane)
  Re: virus alert! (Marco Tephlant)
  ide tape with taper? (John Thompson)
  Re: Making FAT32 Partitions Available to Normal Users (Tim Laursen)
  Re: Can I copy a CD to mutltiple  CD-R's at the same time ? (Philip Charles)
  Re: Only one browser for linux? (Juergen Heinzl)
  ICQ and such ("Gary Standen [OEM - 325961]")
  RedHat 5.2 on a Compaq Deskpro 6000??? (Lukas Neuburger)
  Re: Linux driver - legal issue (John Hasler)

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From: Dave Ringkor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Q] HP CD-Writer on Parallel Port
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:43:21 +0000

John,

Yes, it works well.  I am running RedHat 5.2 with the 2.2.1 kernel on an
HP Vectra.  I have an HP7110e CD-Writer connected to the parallel port. 
To configure the kernel to be able to use the writer, I enabled
"Parallel Port IDE Device Support," and also enabled "ATAPI generic
devices" and the "epat" protocol.  When your machine boots up after
configuring the kernel this way, it should detect your drive.  

To burn CDs, use the mkisofs program to create an iso9660 image of your
data, and then use cdrecord to burn the image to disk:

% mkisofs -a -r -J -o /path/to/output/image /path/to/data

% cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=2 -v -eject /path/to/output/image

For further information, check out
http://www.torque.net/parport/paride.html.

- Dave

> can anyone tell me (or point me in the right direction) whether a
> paraller port connection for the HP CD-Writer has a workable solution. 
> I am running mainly RH 5.2 with 2.2.1 kernel on Inspiron 7IK (Dell's 
> laptop). Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> John.
> 
> P.S. Please direct the answer to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Stogner)
Subject: Re: 2.2.1 - modprobe won't work
Date: 6 Feb 1999 17:51:18 GMT

On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:00:49 +0100, Jan Oberlaender wrote:

>my 2.2.1 kernel on RH42 made quite a bunch of problems.
>modprobe doesn't work with it, I'm getting errors such as "modprobe: out
>of filehandle" during bootup and later on. Also, both modprobe and
>insmod fail to install some modules. Error: "kernel_version needed, but
>can't be found" - /proc/ksyms doesn't contain it. Heck. And... depmod
>reports quite a bunch of unresolved symbols for all modules, one being
>kernel_version, and another __this_module__ ... (?!?) weird... maybe a
>new gcc or so???

Have you read the Documentation/Changes file and updated the software
(including modprobe) therein?  All old applications should work with
2.2, but the low-level utilities need to be updated.
---
Roy Stogner

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: > 64MB RAM
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:07:33 -0500

lgbp wrote:
> 
> >>Some of our Databases are 100's of GB in size.
> 
> Databases, I should have known that-- just took a database class.  I
> assume the DMBS tries its best --but yeah since RAM is so cheap I can
> see where you would want to put a few gigs in there, at least enough so
> that any two relations could fit in memory at once.
> 
> It just _sounds_ like an excessive amount.  But really what is memory
> these days... less than $1000 a gigabyte I guess.
> 
> gbp

That's why I want Linux to do it.  *PC* memory is approx $1500/GB
but interleafed error-correcting banked HP or SUN memory
is $12,000-$25,000 dollars per GB!

So  I could spend $125,000 for a Quad processor SUN box with
4GB of RAM (plus accessories).

Or I could spend approx. $50,000 for equivalent hardware in
PC architecture...

But the difference between 2GB RAM and 4GB of RAM makes the
difference in the Speed of the DBMS to such an extent that
the Managers don't care about the extra $$$

-Ben.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Window Maker prefs undocked!
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:52:16 GMT

On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:27:34 -0800, Ruairi McFarlane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I dragged the WM prefs icon off screen by accident. I need it back! How
>do I get it back?

Run WPrefs.app.  The full path to it on my machine is
/usr/local/GNUstep/Apps/WPrefs.app

Dave Cook

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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE kvt copy/paste question
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:56:39 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> How does one copy and paste text from a kvt terminal
> window. I've tried to highlight text to mark it, then
> switch to the new window and middle-click to copy the
> marked text. However nothing is copied. Any suggestions
> welcomed.
> 
> Greg

That works on my system. (although I normaly use color-xterms)

When you are using two xterms can you use this method?

If not then you have a problem with the way X is trying to
deal with your mouse.

Try pressing the left+right buttons at the same time.
If that works, then you have "Emulate3Buttons" option
in your XF86Config file and you have "Emulate3Timeout"
there too, comment those out.

If you still have problems, write back to the news-group.

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From: Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xforms ??
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:00:06 +0100

Sparkzz wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to install Lyx and it bombs out looking for xforms.
> Where is xforms??
> 
> thanks,

It is a long time since I last checked out the xforms home page (xforms
is in my view pretty mediocre, so I just installed it in order to be
able to compile stuff, that requires it, otherwise I don't care about
it, and wouldn't dream about developing anything with it), and now my
shortcut seems to be dead. However their ftp site is still the same
place. You should be able to grab the binaries for xforms at
ftp://bragg.phys.uwm.edu/pub/xforms/

-- 

  (\        Best regards,        /)
-||||8-          Tim          -8||||-
  (/      2B OR NOT 2B = FF      \)

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From: Paul Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.news,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:59:09 +1100

Michel Catudal wrote:
> There is two version of the libc5 and one of the glib2
> 
> For those of us who don't want to share our credit cards with the world there is
> only one choice, which is the 128 bits version and there is no glib2 version.

Since the 128-bit version cannot be legally exported/downloaded to
Australia, that's a moot point.  Fortunately, you can patch the export
versions of Netscape using Fortify (www.fortify.net) to get 128-bit
encryption, including the glib2 version.  Works great!

> And yes it works with RedHat 5.2, I use the 4.08 version. I find it less buggy
> than 4.5, it is quite a bit faster too. I'll wait for a less buggy release
> before I switch again.

I haven't noticed an significant bugs in 4.5 that weren't present in the
previous version, and certainly no more than any Windows version.  :)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Paul Taylor                                Veni, vidi, tici -
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      I came, I saw, I ticked.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Troy Beukema)
Subject: SMP + 2.21 = Corrupted Filesystem
Date: 6 Feb 1999 20:36:03 GMT

I built 2.21 today and tested it out on my 2-processor P-Pro box.  The
OS freeze-crashed (must be a new undocumented WinXX compatibility feature)
under Netscrape and corrupted my filesystem (excellent WinXX emulator).
Straightforward build with nothing fancy : 1 SCSI disk, 1 IDE disk, 64M main
memory, 2 processor 200MHz P-6 machine.  e2fsck seems to have patched the
filesystem back together.

2.21 + SMP != Prime Time.

Troy

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 22:16:46 +0000
From: Doug Maine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X and ATI Rage IIc AGP

Calle Hilborn wrote:

> This video card does not appear in the list when configuring X. And when
> probing for card specifics it returns an error!
> Can someone please help me?
> I installed Linux and used it for the first time this tuesday, so, please be
> rather specific when describing HOWTO.
>
> Regards
>
> Calle
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Skip the probes, set your memory up manually. I have an ATI Rage Pro 3d, AGP
running xwindows, KDE jsut fine at 800x600 24bpp.


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From: Brian Luczkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,nl.comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,redhat.kernel.general,redhat.general,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: loading zipdrive support: parport , parport_pc,sd_mod, ppa
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:22:07 -0500

Just a suggestion to make it load at every bootup. add the insmod command to
the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file and that will run with every boot,
that way you won't need a crazy "Z" script. If you want to mount at bootup,
just do edit /etc/mtab and /etc/[somethingelse]tab (I forget, and am in
windows which would avoid checking (dual-boot with loadlin)
R. Brock Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Onion Ok wrote:
>>
>>    Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to get my zipdrive running and also being able to print, so
>> in make xconfig I configured to load as modules: parport, parport_pc,
>> sd_mod, ppa and lp . But when I do this I need to do insmod driver
>> everytime I startup. If I configure these devices as "y" in make xconfig
>> then when I startup I can't use the zipdirve and printer at all and the
>> sdax support isn't there either. So now I compiled the kernel with the
>> devices as modules and I made file which does insmod for all the
>> devices, that file is in my /etc/profile.
>> My question is:  It must be possible that the kernel can load these
>> devices him self, but how?
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what to do?
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Greetings,
>>                         Jurrien
>
>With kernel 2.0.33 I had them all as modules. The only thing I noticed with
that
>setup was that I had to load the zip drive modules by hand each time.
kerneld
>didn't work for them. But I got around that by making a shellscript for
mounting
>and umounting, named simply "Z". It's attached, plus I attached all the
other
>scripts you may find handy as well.
>
>With kernel 2.2.0-pre6 I compiled everything into the kernel. And I can
print
>even while a parallel port zip disk is mounted. I imagine as long as I
don't try
>to access data from the disk while printing I'll be ok. But I haven't
stressed
>tested that far yet. ;)
>
>R. Brock Lynn
>
>Bonus: you get an A+ if you can translate the attached tcsh scripts to the
bash
>shell!
>
>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---+
>|     Linux!      http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~conradp/linux/test.html
|
>| Debian! apt-get install the-universe, coming to a linux installation near
U!|
>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---+


============================================================================
----


>#!/bin/tcsh -f
># Use this really short script to mount floppy disk a.
># Copywrite (c) 1999 R. Brock Lynn
># License for use: GNU GPL version 2 or later
>
>switch ( $1 )
>case "m":
> mount /mnt/a
> breaksw
>case "u":
> umount /mnt/a
> breaksw
>default:
> echo \(m\)ount / \(u\)nmount floppy disk a.
> echo Usage: A \[m\|u\]
>endsw
>


============================================================================
----


>#!/bin/tcsh -f
># Use this really short script to mount floppy disk B.
># Copywrite (c) 1999 R. Brock Lynn
># License for use: GNU GPL version 2 or later
>
>switch ( $1 )
>case "m":
> mount /mnt/b
> breaksw
>case "u":
> umount /mnt/b
> breaksw
>default:
> echo \(m\)ount / \(u\)nmount floppy disk b.
> echo Usage: B \[m\|u\]
>endsw
>


============================================================================
----


>#!/bin/tcsh -f
># Use this really short script to mount hard disk c.
># Copywrite (c) 1999 R. Brock Lynn
># License for use: GNU GPL version 2 or later
>
>switch ( $1 )
>case "m":
> mount /mnt/c
> breaksw
>case "u":
> umount /mnt/c
> breaksw
>default:
> echo \(m\)ount / \(u\)nmount hard disk c.
> echo Usage: C \[m\|u\]
>endsw
>


============================================================================
----


>#!/bin/tcsh -f
># Use this really short script to mount a cdrom.
># Copywrite (c) 1999 R. Brock Lynn
># License for use: GNU GPL version 2 or later
>
>switch ( $1 )
>case "m":
> mount /mnt/cdrom
> breaksw
>case "u":
> umount /mnt/cdrom
> breaksw
>case "x":
> umount /mnt/cdrom
> if ( $? == 0 ) then
> eject /dev/hdc >& /dev/null
> endif
> breaksw
>default:
> echo \(m\)ount / \(u\)nmount / \(x\)eject a cdrom.
> echo Usage: CD \[m\|u\|x\]
>endsw
>


============================================================================
----


>#!/bin/tcsh -f
># Use this really short script to mount a Zip Drive.
># Copywrite (c) 1999 R. Brock Lynn
># License for use: GNU GPL version 2 or later
>
>switch ( $1 )
>case "m":
> modprobe ppa
> mount /mnt/zip
> breaksw
>case "u":
> umount /mnt/zip
> breaksw
>case "U":
> umount /mnt/zip
> if ( $? == 0 ) then
> rmmod ppa
> rmmod sd_mod
> rmmod scsi_mod
> endif
> breaksw
>case "x":
> modprobe ppa
> umount /mnt/zip >& /dev/null
> eject /dev/sda >& /dev/null
> breaksw
>case "X":
> modprobe ppa
> umount /mnt/zip >& /dev/null
> if ( $? == 0 ) then
> eject /dev/sda >& /dev/null
> rmmod ppa
> rmmod sd_mod
> rmmod scsi_mod
> endif
> breaksw
>default:
> echo \(m\)ount / \(u\)nmount / \(x\)eject a zip disk.
> echo Usage: Z \[m\|u\|U\|x\|X\]
> echo U and X will also remove all zip related kernel modules \(ppa,
sd_mod, scsi_mod\)
>endsw
>



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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to set screen-blanking.
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:24:09 GMT

Three books later, I can control screen in X, but not at CLI.

Thank you.



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From: Ruairi McFarlane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Window Maker prefs undocked!
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:27:34 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I dragged the WM prefs icon off screen by accident. I need it back! How
do I get it back?
-- 

Sincerely,


R. McFarlane

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From: Marco Tephlant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: virus alert!
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:06:33 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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--
Marco



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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ide tape with taper?
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:37:50 -0600

After poking through dejanews I decided that I should be
able to use an HP-Colorado 5GB IDE tape drive with linux. 
Other people have reported it to work, anyway.  Well, I have
it installed now, and my kernel(2.0.34)/modules compiled for
IDE tape support but it doesn't work.  The drive is detected
at boot time but I get a message that the drive is not
supported:


hda: WDC AC26400B, 6149MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63,
UDMA
hdc: 36X CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: HP COLORADO 5GB, ATAPI TAPE driveide-tape: Sorry, DRQ
types other than Accelerated DRQ
ide-tape: are still not supported by the driver
ide-tape: the tape is not supported by this version of the
driver

OK, fine.  Maybe I can use SCSI emulation to get it to
work.  Compile up the needed stuff, it seem OK at boot:

scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
scsi : detected total.

But no joy.  If I try to use taper (my prefered software)
with switches for SCSI it dies whenever I try anything:

"Operation not supported by device while opening backup
device"

Has anybody managed to get this stuff to work?  Is there a
newer version of the IDEtape driver that supports this
device?  If so, where?


-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making FAT32 Partitions Available to Normal Users
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:31:01 +0100

"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:

>     Thanks!  I made the change to the cdrom (sure enough, it wasn't readable to
> users), and that problem was fixed instantly.
> 
>     However, my FAT32 parition is still stumping me.  I have set user read-write
> permissions on both the mount point, and the actual hard drive in "/dev" as
> well... but the permissions for the mount point automatically revert to their old
> read-only value whenever the drive is mounted (and then change again when it's
> unmounted).
> 
>     Weird stuff... I wonder if it could have anything to do with "fstab" or the
> mounting options.  "linuxconf" made some changes to it that I don't quite
> recognize... does this make any sense?.....

It does indeed have something to do with fstab, and mount options as
well (since you put the default mount options in the fstab file. Most
options in fstab can also be invoked from the "mount" command). The
permissions on the mount point and the device file have nothing to do
with the permissions on the files within the file system.

Now since the FAT file system does not support permission flag as Unix
do, this kind of file system is treated in a special way. Actually
several different file systems have special mount options that only
applies for that specific fs. You should read the "man" pages on "fstab"
and "mount" (i.e. "man mount"). You should especially pay attention to
the section about options for FAT in the "mount" man page. For the FAT
file system you can add the uid=value and gid=value options, to make all
files on the drive belong to a specific user and group. if you want all
users to have access to the drive, you could make a special group that
all users are members of, and make the files on the FAT drive belong to
that group. If the permission flags are set correctly on the drive
(umask=value mount option), that should do the trick.

> 
> fstab:
> 
> /dev/hdb1               /                       ext2    defaults        1 1
> /dev/hdb2               swap                    swap    defaults        0 0
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2  user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660  user,exec,dev,suid,ro,noauto 0 0
> /dev/hdc1 /mnt/cdrive vfat  user,exec,dev,suid,rw 0 0

Assuming your user is called "steve", try changing this line to
something like,

/dev/hdc1 /mnt/cdrive vfat 
user,exec,dev,suid,uid=steve,gid=allusers,umask=002,rw 0 0

and then create a group called "allusers" and make all users a member of
that group. Alternatively if you are then only user on the machine
anyway, you could skip the group stuff and set the gid to whatever you
call the group your user profile is a member of.


Hope this will be of any help to you.

-- 

  (\        Best regards,        /)
-||||8-          Tim          -8||||-
  (/      2B OR NOT 2B = FF      \)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Charles)
Subject: Re: Can I copy a CD to mutltiple  CD-R's at the same time ?
Date: 6 Feb 1999 23:34:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 5 Feb 1999 21:43:48 -0600, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Auld <> wrote:
>>I use mkisofs and cdrecord in a commercial environment for creating
>>software CD's for Windows and Unix cutsomers, but I can only use this
>>software to create CD's one at a time.
>>
>>I have a need to create multiple copies from image files, which can
>>only be done at the moment on an unreliable Windows machine. This uses
>>software to write to eight CD-R's at a time, and so it must also be
>>possible on Linux.
>>
>>Is there any software or command line tricks that can be used to write
>>to many CD-R drives at once ?
>
>What happens if you just run more copies of cdrecord writing the same
>image to different drives?  You can do this from multiple xterm
>windows, vt's, or if you don't mind the screen output being jumbled
>by running each command line in the background with a '&' so you
>can repeat it immediately.  There may be some limit to the number
>of drives you can deliver data to at writing speed, but otherwise
>I don't see why the programs would affect each other.  (I only have
>one writer so I can try it myself).

Very much my thinking, I may be facing a similar problem.  There is a 4mb
buffer with cdrecord and I have noticed that it it is never less than 95%
full while writing with my 133 machine when lighty loaded - so I think that
I could run at least 4 writers safly.

Phil.


-- 
Philip Charles.  My home page:-   http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~philipc


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Only one browser for linux?
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:01:32 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>It was the 5 Feb 1999 20:59:24 GMT...
>..and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In his obvious haste, Marco Tephlant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
>> : Why does there only seem to be netscape that is usuable in Linux.  Given
>> : the variety of software available,  I find it pretty amazing that I
>> : can't find a decent browser.
[...]
>> Arena is still in the developement stage, isn't it?
>
>I think Amaya is now the W3C's testbed browser and probably, Arena
>development has been discontinued.

Yes; it is less a browser than an editor anyway but I might give
chimera a try, should do the job for my needs too.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
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 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
  \ Phone Private : +44 181-332 0750              \                  /

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From: "Gary Standen [OEM - 325961]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ICQ and such
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:03:38 -0500

Here is a site that might interest you:

http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/

Best wishes,

Gary Standen
--
Melanchete Labrador Retrievers
        Lisa & Gary Standen
   http://www.melanchete.com
       [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Lukas Neuburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 5.2 on a Compaq Deskpro 6000???
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:07:38 -0500

Greetings,

I'm trying to install RedHat 5.2 on a Compaq Deskpro 6000 but find that
the integrated network adapter does not seem to be supported. Has anyone
else with the same hardware found a way to make networking go
successfully using the the integrated network adapter?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Lukas

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux driver - legal issue
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:37:56 GMT

Dr. Henrik Seidel writes:
> I have a legal problem;

> Since I had no technical documentation, I used DOSemu to record the
> ports (and transmitted values) used by the software that came with
> the card. I sent an email to the product management of the card
> manufacturer, but I did not get any response.

> My question is now: Is it illegal to release the kernel driver without
> an explicit permission of the manufacturer?

No.  You own the card: you can do what you damn well please with it, and
tell anyone what you learned.  Reverse engineering is entirely legal:
companies do it to each other's products all the time.  Their competitors
reverse engineered the product immediately after it came out.  I believe
that the EU has a law specifically protecting what you did.

Bill Unruh writes:
> As a minimum, I would write a letter -- registered mail-- and send it to
> the manufacturer stating that you are releasing the software on such and
> such a date, and that you will take the lack of a response from them as
> permission for you to so release the program.

Failure to respond to such a letter would not constitute permission for
anything.  The most sending it would do is prompt them to send a
threatening letter in response (a bluff, of course).

GPL the driver and release it.  Many such drivers have been released and no
company has sued yet.  In the unlikely event that this one does, let the
free software community know and we will fix you up with all the legal help
you need and enough bad pr to make them ask you to forgive them.  Do you
really think they would enjoy having Eric Raymond mentioning them in the
same breath as Microsoft?

They aren't going to sue.  What would be the point?
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