Linux-Misc Digest #933, Volume #19               Fri, 23 Apr 99 06:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Serial port monitoring (Terry Moore - Systems)
  Re: Ethernet Card not recognized during installation (Terry Moore - Systems)
  Re: Parport zip & printer -- Solved it myself  :) (Dale Hennessey)
  Re: g++ for linux? (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
  Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Rahul Dhesi)
  Re: XFree86 3.3.3.1-1.1.i386.rpm (Jimmy Navarro)
  Re: Login prompt....grrrrrr. (Mihaly Gyulai)
  On-the-fly CDR writing software for Linux ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Leslie Mikesell)
  superblock corrupt (Paul Rowland)
  Why won't RedHat see my network card? ("Carl Kramer (RobotFan)")
  OK... READ THIS ("ASH")
  Re: I want an OS written ("Rene")
  mouse wheel under X (benjamin)
  no prompt after pon (Jeremy C. Reed)
  Re: printing in 2.2.x: that's it! (Pavel Grinfeld)
  Statistics: R and S (Alessandro Magni)
  Re: Is NT really 3.7 times faster than Linux ? (Dennis)
  Re: disable telnet access (Branimir Dolicki)
  Re: Changing virtual window manager in RH5.2 ("Jethro Wright III")
  Re: On-board sound chip? (Jedi Master Yoda)
  Re: disable telnet access (Branimir Dolicki)

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From: Terry Moore - Systems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial port monitoring
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:34:51 -0500

There are some tools that are compiled for WindowMaker
that will work under other winmanagers  

go to there site and look around for the wmppp 
you can watch your modem.. 

hack the code and make it work for you..

Also 
www.freebsd.org in the ports section you may find something that
intrests you and compile it for linux..

may be something from www.linuxnow.com   ?

Regards
Terry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know of tools to monitor serial port activity in linux?
> 
> Jenny
> 
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From: Terry Moore - Systems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Card not recognized during installation
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:36:47 -0500

Geoff,
It has been my experience that a kernel recompiled with the 
correct drivers for your board is the fix..

Regards
Terry 

Geoff Macumber wrote:
> 
> Hi guys & gals,
> 
> I'm new to Linux but have played over the years with Aix, Hpux, Dgux and
> SCO. I am trying to load Redhat 5.2 onto a machine that is bits and pieces.
> All is OK except when I try to get the installation to recognize my NE2000
> clone. I have a DOS utility to set the IO and IRQ but no matter what
> settings I use the installation says that it cannot find the device anywhere
> on the system.
> 
> What am I doing wrong or what have I not done?
> 
> Thanks for any help.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Hennessey)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Parport zip & printer -- Solved it myself  :)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:03:24 GMT

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:37:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Dale Hennessey) wrote:

:Hi, folks.
:
:I've tried replacing my 2.2.1 kernel with 2.2.5 on a RedHat
:5.2 system.
:
:My 2.2.1 kernel could detect the line printer and the parallel
:port zip disk on boot without problem, yet the 2.2.5 kernel
:cannot,  When I boot 2.2.5 I get scsi: 0 hosts message and
:mesages about not being able to load the ppa.o and lp.o modules
:because the device is busy.  
:
:Clearly, I've missed something and I can't figure out what
:it is.  
:
:
:If I do lsmod, I see that parport, parport_pc and parport_probe
:are loaded.  
:
:Can anyone give me some ideas on what to check next?  I'm at
:the point of pulling my hair out!  (Speeding nature's natural
:process along a little bit. ;))
:
:Many thanks,

Turns out that depmod -a was not detecting dependencies 
properly.  On a hunch, I exmained the modules.dep file in 
/lib/modules/2.2.5 and discovered that ppa.o depended only 
on parport.o, not parport.o *and* parport_pc.o as I expected 
it to.  When I manually added  partport_pc.o to the dependency 
list and rebooted, everything was auto-detected a-ok.  


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Subject: Re: g++ for linux?
Date: 23 Apr 1999 01:55:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> perhaps a faq type question, but:  is there a free g++ compiler for
> c++ code?  my school (ariz state univ) uses g++ and I like it.
> 

g++ is pretty much THE C++ compiler used in Linux (if one includes egcs in
the more general token "g++").  Since it's free, it can be distributed with
Linux with no problems, so that's what people use most of the time.

BTW, g++ is present on a LOT of platforms--including (ack!) Win32.  OK, OK,
that was useless trivia, does not belong here... [dons an asbestos suit]

-- 
Benoit Goudreault-Emond
CoFounder, KMS Group ; Student, B. Comp. Eng, Concordia University
``Being too close to a fireball can worry a man --- to death.''
        -- Zeb Carter in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein

Note:   the "From:" address is not correct to protect myself against spam.
        My actual e-mail address is: ``bgoudem AT axess DOT com''

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rahul Dhesi)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 23 Apr 1999 06:42:06 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:

>A more realistic question is 'how valuable is it to survive intervals
>of ridiculous overloading'?  That is, if the system starts taking
>5 minutes to give you a prompt, will you leave it that way for a
>while and hope it works its way back, or will you reboot so you
>can go back to work immediately?

It's usually preferable to kill only the offending process(e).  We might
be in the middle of a simulation that will take three days, or we might
be analyzing a long log file and we don't want to start over, or our
name server might have built up a rich cache and we don't want to lose
it, or we might be editing five different files and we don't want to
lose our cursor positions and "undo" context in any of them.  Such
activities will survive a period of overload, but they won't survive a
reboot.

Systems should be designed to survive overload without having to be
rebooted.
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3.3.1-1.1.i386.rpm
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:32:07 -0700

I just tried rpm -qa | grep XFree86 getting:

XFree86-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-devel-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-ISO8859-2-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-2-Type1-fonts-1.0-1
XFree86-ISO8859-9-2.1.2-1
XFree86-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-2.1.2-1
XFree86-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-2.1.2-1
XFree86-libs-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-VGA16-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-Xnest-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-Xvfb-3.3.2.3-25
XFree86-SVGA-3.3.2.3-25

Where is the S3 thing?  Another $0.01 question, are these ISO889 fonts needed for X 
Window?  I was in Install SIG last Saturday
the presenter mentioned these ISO8859 fonts are not really necessary?

Lack Mr G M wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael 
>McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |>
> |> > I'm using Red Hat 5.2 and would like upgrade to latest XFree86 3.3.3.1.
> |> > I have an S3 Virge but unsure which one since install.log has no info
> |> > which packages installed for X Window.  First, how will I know which of
> |> > these below?
> |> >
> |> > XFree86-S3-3.3.3.1-1.1.i386.rpm
> |> > XFree86-S3V-3.3.3.1-1.1.i386.rpm
> |>
> |> At a guess I'd say the second... but when I installed a ViRGE-DX for a
> |> friend xf86config suggested using the SVGA driver...
> |>
> |> XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3.1-1.1.i386.rpm
>
>    Which is what the XFree86 server list page says:
>
> >> http://www.xfree86.org/XFree86/cardlist.html
>
> The standard SVGA server has several accelerated cards rolled into it.
> My NT Riva128ZX and Sis6326 cards (separate systems) both use it.
>
> --
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> The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Login prompt....grrrrrr.
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 06:36:24 GMT

In article <pORT2.23$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Martin R. Soderstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, all.
Hi



> My login prompt is now "Hostname login:" .  I would like to change this to
> text I choose instead of Hostname...how and where would I do this?

Maybe it depends on what Linux distro you use... Mine is RedHat, and
there is a file : /etc/sysconfig/network
in which a line contains the hostname :
HOSTNAME=what.you.like

(there are other infos in this file, like gateway address...)


--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: On-the-fly CDR writing software for Linux ?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:43:34 GMT

Is there any On-the-fly CDR writing software for Linux ?

I have looked at CDRecord, but it seems to need 800MB HD space to operate, and
lack of HD space is the reason why I want to put some of my data on CDR:s.

If you know of a package, please Email & Post!

/johan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 23 Apr 1999 02:03:52 -0500

In article <7fp4nu$mt6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rahul Dhesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>A more realistic question is 'how valuable is it to survive intervals
>>of ridiculous overloading'?  That is, if the system starts taking
>>5 minutes to give you a prompt, will you leave it that way for a
>>while and hope it works its way back, or will you reboot so you
>>can go back to work immediately?
>
>It's usually preferable to kill only the offending process(e).  We might
>be in the middle of a simulation that will take three days, or we might
>be analyzing a long log file and we don't want to start over, or our
>name server might have built up a rich cache and we don't want to lose
>it, or we might be editing five different files and we don't want to
>lose our cursor positions and "undo" context in any of them.  Such
>activities will survive a period of overload, but they won't survive a
>reboot.
>
>Systems should be designed to survive overload without having to be
>rebooted.

Yes, but if your name server starts taking minutes to respond to
queries and you can't see any end in sight to the overload
will you leave it that way to preserve the cache or reboot
and let people start working again?  Killing processes sounds
good, but what if it takes several minutes to get a prompt
and many more to run ps, and meanwhile the requests that are
overloading the server are still coming? 

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Paul Rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: superblock corrupt
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:08:32 -0400

I've read all the suggestions on superblock repair. But what does one do
when you can't even get the system to boot, using loadlin and the
kernel. I tried backup  kernels, Slackware root/boot, RH boot(I run
RH5.2), no matter what I tried it always went into kernel panic when
trying to mount, and  would not recognize /. Is this not hopeless? I
wound up initializing the system and of course lost all my data.


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From: "Carl Kramer (RobotFan)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Why won't RedHat see my network card?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:09:19 -0400

I recently tried to re-install 5.1 on a machine that had been connected
to a network without any problems.  During the reinstallation, when
prompted for a driver, I selected my card from the list and selected the
'autoprobe' option. I was greeted with the error message "I can't find
the device anywhere on your system!".  I opened the case and inspected
the card.  Nothing seemed to be wrong, but I replaced the card anyway
and tried again.  Same problem.  I tried different slots on the mother
board.  No dice.  I tried using different cards all together (3com,
D-LINK, NE-2000).  None worked.  I tried specifying the IO and IRQ
parameters.  Nuh-uh.  Checked the CMOS for any irregularities. Didn't
help.

"Error
I can't find the device anywhere on your system!"

Is all that I get for my trouble.  I downloaded the image for 5.2 boot
and supplemental.  Tried to install from FTP, but still no go.
I wiped the hard drive completely clean (with the help of Partition
Magic), started over again and still no soap.

Meanwhile, when I swap out the hard drive with one that has windows 95
installed on it.  Windows finds and installs the drivers for the card
without any problem.

I am utterly stumped.

Why won't RedHat see my network card?

Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks.

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From: "ASH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.databases.sybase,comp.forsale.computers,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.sys.su
Subject: OK... READ THIS
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:12:38 GMT

If you can read this post a reply to the news group please...
just a couple will do.....
Thanks



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From: "Rene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.misc
Subject: Re: I want an OS written
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:14:13 +0200

I have a Linux OS disk at home that does just this. It's made by some
Italian. Don't remember the name , sorry! Actually, there are quite a few
Micro-Linux around.

Web-Browsing is with Lynx, however. I doubt a GUI style browser can fit on a
single disk. Nowadays, computers come with far too limited ROM (remember
Atari ST - everything did fit on a disk!).

Rene.

Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
j2fT2.6105$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I seem to recall a competition on the Internet to write a complete OS with
> support for a dial-up Internet connection, web browsing and email
facilities
> that would fit on a 1.44Mb floppy disk. As far as I can remember, somebody
> DID actually meet these requirements. I can't remember the URL, though.
I'll
> have a look around for it. However, I think it was pretty limited
> graphically, so it would probably require some serious changing to satisfy
> your needs.
>
> Matt Williams




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From: benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mouse wheel under X
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:17:18 +0200

Hello ,
I am runing Linux 2.2.4 (RH 5.1 upgraded), and i have a mouse Micro$oft.
I would like to enable the use of the wheel. I tried 'imwheel' but it
seems not to work although the install process was without error.
Thank you for helping.

Benjamin
Runing Linux Kernel 2.2.4


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy C. Reed)
Subject: no prompt after pon
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:00:58 GMT

I made my computer answer the phone with mgetty and it works great. But now 
when I type pon to dial up I don't get my next prompt. It dials perfectly but 
it just sits there.

Any ideas to what I have to change so pon works like it did before? (I don't 
want to disable the dialup answering.)

Thanks

jeremy


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From: Pavel Grinfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: printing in 2.2.x: that's it!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:00 +0000

partport_pc was disabled. Silly me!

Thanks a lot, Steffen!

Pavel

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steffen Kluge wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Pavel Greenfield  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I know that "switch to /dev/lp0" is supposed to be the answer, but it
> >doesn't seem to be for me!
> >I could print fine in 2.0.36, but now in 2.2.6 - no luck! Please help...
>
> I don't think lp can talk directly to the hardware anymore in
> 2.2.x. Try loading parport and parport_pc before lp.
>
> Hope this helps
> Steffen.
>
> --
> Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fujitsu Australia Ltd
> Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
> --


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From: Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Statistics: R and S
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:58:42 +0200


Which are their differences? According to the R FAQ, they are almost
invisible, while the main difference
remains lexical scoping. Is this a sufficient reason to go S -> R ?

AND: which is the more complete (and uptodate) reference available
online, to both programs?

ANDAND: what is your impression of both?


Thanks

    Alessandro

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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is NT really 3.7 times faster than Linux ?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:58:43 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is anyone aware of a counter attack plan?  What I am thinking of is
having a less biased group do the testing on similar hardware and bring
in the NT  A N D the Linux (Red Hat in this case) people for a real
shoot out.  Seems to me that this challenge has to be met head-on.

Dennis,



Jacek Radajewski wrote:
> 
> I quickly browsed this group, and didn't find any threads which talk
> about this report.... Personally I think that Bill is getting desperate.
> 
> http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html.
> 
> Jacek
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.sci.usq.edu.au/staff/jacek

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branimir Dolicki)
Subject: Re: disable telnet access
Date: 21 Apr 1999 14:50:13 GMT

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:34:24 GMT,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thanks, but the above will deny access from hosts/IP addresses, I want to
>allow them accessing the system from anywhere.. IOW, user1/user2 only can
>telnet to the system from anywhere..  is there a way to do that?

Sorry, you are right.  There is a way to do that, too, but not with
TCP Wrappers as above but with login authentification.  Read the
login(1) man page, it's all there.  You will have to put a couple
of lines into  /etc/usertty ...

>> BTW, you DON'T want root to be allowed to telnet to your machine
>> directly.  Login as joe and then use su to become root.
>
>Thanks for the advice. will diable it when I learn how :)

It's probably disabled by default.  Anyway, login(1) has the answer
too, the file is /etc/securetty.

HTH,

 -- Branimir

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From: "Jethro Wright III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing virtual window manager in RH5.2
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:03:34 -0400


    In a follow-up, can the speed menu be changed ?  I've followed
this startup scripts into Xclients, etc. but I'm too new to know
where to look for the script that switches WMs at run-time....Jet

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El Capitan wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Russell S. DiPesa wrote:
>
>> Right-clicking gives you a speed menu, but not one for changing the
window
>> manager.
>>
>> Russ
>
>go to the exit on the menu.  You get an option there to change managers.,
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jedi Master Yoda)
Subject: Re: On-board sound chip?
Date: 21 Apr 99 14:32:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saw 
fit to expound:
>I've got an on-board sound chip that is supposed to be 100% Sound Blaster
>compatible (and under DOS it appears to be). Nonetheless, I can't get it to
>work under LINUX even when I compile sound as a module instead of compiling
>it directly into the kernel. I'm running SuSE 6.1 with kernel 2.2.6. If
>anyone knows some tricks to get this to work with an on-board chip, please
>let me know.

There should be no operational difference between an onboard chip and
a plug-in sound card - the main thing is to get the settings right.

When you are using the card under DOS, make a note of the IRQ, IO and
DMA settings. Then check these settings are correct in the kernel config
(there is no particular reason why the kernel defaults should match the
card's factory settings, and in general they don't).

If everything is working, you should see a sound device registered in
/proc/devices, and you should be able to cat a .wav file to /dev/audio
(though it won't sound very nice).

JMY

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branimir Dolicki)
Subject: Re: disable telnet access
Date: 23 Apr 1999 09:50:32 GMT

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:36:10 GMT,
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I read the login(1) page, but there was no enough explanation about usertty
> will you kindly show me how to add the names there ?

Normaly, you would put:

CLASSES
localtty        tty1 tty2

USERS
joe     localtty
willy   localtty
penguin localtty

in your /etc/usertty file.  But, I tried it right now on my RHL 5.2 and
it didn't work!  Perhaps something should also be edited in /etc/pam.d
or /etc/pam.conf ?  Or maybe in /etc/login.defs or /etc/login.access ?
Could somebody clear up the confusion? :-(

 -- B

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