Linux-Misc Digest #933, Volume #20 Mon, 5 Jul 99 18:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Installing RH 6.0 (Ingemar Enocsson)
Re: Gnome and window manager (Tim Haynes)
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Frederic Marchand)
Sound problems ("TwoSheds")
ALL LINUX SEARCH ENGINES ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HELP -- Need advice to buy inkjet printer ------------ ("Kaushik --,->")
Re: X Server and RIVA TNT2 (Timothy Murphy)
Debian 2.1 (Andrei N. Ronto)
Re: Debian 2.1 (Cameron L. Spitzer)
swap question (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
Re: e-mail program (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Gnome and window manager ("m.nine.six")
Re: Gnome and window manager (Michael Perry)
Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem (Holger Petersen)
Re: ALL LINUX SEARCH ENGINES (Hans Wolters)
Re: LILO hangs on LI ("Kovalev")
Can't get ppp to work w/ RH 6.0 ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: Problem with Iomega ZIP. (Darren Winsper)
Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process? (William Burrow)
kdm instead of xdm?? ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: Kernel compile: 'make dep' errors: .h files are not being found... (Marc Mutz)
Re: kernel patch 2.2.10 (Marc Mutz)
Re: Duplex printing! (Marc Mutz)
Re: df on raid disk (Marc Mutz)
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From: Ingemar Enocsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing RH 6.0
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:59:55 +0200
Hi,
I'm trying to install RH 6.0 on my Compaq Presario beside Win 98.
After partitioning my HDD, I started the installation by from a boot
disc, with failure.
When trying to install from E:\DOSUTILS\autoboot.bat
I get the message "Warning! Not enough free memory(load buffer size)"
Can anybody help me with this?
Thanks!
/Ingemar
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From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome and window manager
Date: 5 Jul 1999 21:53:14 -0000
On 5 Jul 1999 18:14:28 GMT, "pico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> doodled in
uk.comp.os.linux:
> Is it possible to start Gnome with another window manager then
> enlightenment? If so, how do I change that. What file do I have to edit? I
> have looked around in Xclients, but there I can only change the window
> manager I prefer. But where can I change the window manager Gnome is using?
~/.xinitrc - try sticking 'exec fvwm2' or another window manager in there. You
can do KDE + gnome if you want (it gets confusing on the desktop layer!) with
X&
startkde&
gnome-session&
from the commandline (crude but it works - I had it going automatically by
putting gnome-session in the autostart directory in KDE once).
> Reactions by e-mail please: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No. Post, read here.
~Tim
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From: Frederic Marchand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:41:04 +0200
"F. Heitkamp" wrote:
>
> I think Apple cut a deal with Motorola and IBM to only promote Apple
> operating systems and Apple hardware for desktop PowerPC systems.
> Why else is there not PowerPC clone MB suppliers? Surely there are
> enough BeOS and Linux users that would purchase these MBs? They might
> end up being somewhat pricey, but there seem like there would be a
> market for them. I talked to a fellow demostrating BeOS at a computer
> show, and he said it was primarily Apple that killed BeOS on PowerPC.
I think that Steve Jobs and Jean-Louis Gassee are not in really good
terms and that's it.
--
Frederic Marchand
BeOS Developer E-14363
http://fmarchand.free.fr/
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From: "TwoSheds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound problems
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:14:35 +0100
Hi,
I have recently installed RH6. I have a few questions regarding sound:
1. - I can get sound out of winamp but not a CD. Any ideas?
2. - when I try to use the EDS Volume Meter, in the Multimedia group
(I'm running Gnome) I get an error box - "Cannot connect to sound daemon.
Please run 'esd' at a command prompt.". After starting eds a
volume meter
pops up, but it doesn't respond to any mouse
clicks. And now even x11amp won't make any sound.
I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to set up sound
correctly, or point me to a document that will. I'm
using an AWE64 soundcard, which definitely produces music
from x11amp usually. But it's not very loud, so I need a volume.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kev.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ALL LINUX SEARCH ENGINES
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:54:31 GMT
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From: "Kaushik --,->" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP -- Need advice to buy inkjet printer ------------
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 11:49:43 -0500
hi
I am trying to buy a decent printer for my Linux box. I need some advice
from all you great guys here! I want the following in my printer:
* inkjet
* postscript (if possible. not important)
* DEFINITELY work with Linux
* good quality lettering. (solid, smooth characters in print - I'm going
to be printing documents for work)
* price range : around $200.
* tried and tested by fellow linux users :))
If somebody in the Dallas/Fort Worth area wants to sell his good Linux
printer second-hand at a fair price, please email me.
thanks in advance
regds,
Kaushik
--
============================================
Kaushik Raghavan
"ASCII stupid question, get stupid ANSI"
============================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X Server and RIVA TNT2
Date: 5 Jul 1999 17:02:10 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I was wondering has any got a RIVA TNT2 card to run with linux (
>Red Hat 6.0) ?
Yes, using the standard XF86_SVGA driver,
with XF86Config.TNT2 as posted recently on a Linux newsgroup.
(Alternatively, you can get an X driver from http://www.nvidia.com
which would probably be better.)
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei N. Ronto)
Subject: Debian 2.1
Date: 01 Jul 1999 16:02:48 +0300
Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is your opinion about Debian 2.1 versus
RedHat 6.0. A RedHat user, I am cosidering bying Debian for -- well,
for they say it's better :-) There are some inconveniences with the
former distribution that I've found myself; maybe there is a
significant difference?
Regards,
Andrei
--
Si vous voyez l'erreur, corrigez-le!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Debian 2.1
Date: 5 Jul 1999 20:32:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrei N. Ronto wrote:
>Hello everybody,
>
>Could you please tell me what is your opinion about Debian 2.1 versus
>RedHat 6.0. A RedHat user, I am cosidering bying Debian for -- well,
>for they say it's better :-) There are some inconveniences with the
>former distribution that I've found myself; maybe there is a
>significant difference?
The last time I tried Red Hat was 5.1. There were enough things
different from normal Linux, and their phone support was useless,
that I gave up on them. 6.0 might be a lot better.
Debian has treated me very well. Almost everything works right
out of the package, and when I install large sources like BIND
they work, because Debian is normal Linux. If they get their
documentation together it will be the best OS available for PCs.
But all Linux distributions have that problem. *Nobody* is doing
serious end-user usability testing yet AFAICT.
Cameron
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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: swap question
Date: 4 Jul 1999 07:47:07 GMT
Hi all. I have 128mb of RAM and 128mb of swap but Linux start using the swap
when I'm using only 32mb (total). It's just an example. It occured after
the updatedb and seems to be a recent change. I used the kernel 2.0.35 for a
long time and it rarely entered the swap.
After this updatedb it was using 620K of swap. Now, after 10 minutes it's
using only 340. I really don't know why it's using the swap if I was using
1/4 of my ram at the updatedb.
--
Frederic L. W. Meunier - running Linux marseille 2.2.9
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +55-21-620-7173 (Brazil) Site: http://olympiquedemarseille.org/
IRC: uptime!pedophile@* Frames, Javascript, mail w/HTML, Spam? /dev/null
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: e-mail program
Date: 5 Jul 1999 20:43:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Chadfield wrote:
>pico wrote:
>>
>> Is there a user friendly e-mail program for Linux? Something like the
>> clients I know from windows9x (eudora, pegasus, calypso etc.). Kmail is a
>> big crap to me, but I want a program with a graphical interface.
>
>Netscape Communicator?
xfmail? Anybody tried it?
http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html
Cameron
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From: "m.nine.six" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome and window manager
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:36:59 +0200
look in the gnome setting box closer and u will see that u can do and
HOW..
alias m.nine.six....
pico wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to start Gnome with another window manager then
> enlightenment? If so, how do I change that. What file do I have to edit? I
> have looked around in Xclients, but there I can only change the window
> manager I prefer. But where can I change the window manager Gnome is using?
>
> Reactions by e-mail please: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome and window manager
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:00:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5 Jul 1999 18:14:28 GMT, pico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Is it possible to start Gnome with another window manager then
>enlightenment? If so, how do I change that. What file do I have to edit? I
>have looked around in Xclients, but there I can only change the window
>manager I prefer. But where can I change the window manager Gnome is using?
>
>Reactions by e-mail please: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you install another gnome compliant window manager like window maker or
something else, it should show up in your window manager capplet and allow
you to switch. I like window maker once some appicons are gotten rid of.
--
Michael Perry - .o0O Gnome - http://www.gnome.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( c) Where great feet think alike!!
"Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself" -Cicero
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Holger Petersen)
Subject: Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:20:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
>One of the most frequent FAQ/complaints about LILO is the requirement
>to maintain an entire partition inside the first 1024 cylinders, so
>that BIOS can see all the blocks of a bootimage located there.
There was one way-out in a german newsgroup. I did not see
any more mentioning of this try...
Yours, Holger
PS: ---- sorry, german --->
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Siebrecht)
Newsgroups: de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
Subject: LILO bootet von Zylinder 5000
Date: 18 Feb 1999 09:33:00 GMT
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Hi!
Die 1024 Zylinder Grenze von lilo ist in der NG ja h�ufig genug
diskutiert worden. Selbst lilo-21 schafft hier noch keine Abhilfe. Ich
habe einen kleinen Patch gemacht, der lilo auf dem Extended INT13
Interface aufsetzen l��t, sofern es im Mainboard BIOS vorhanden ist.
Damit entf�llt die 1024 Zylinder Grenze. Nach Anwenden des Patches (und
Neukompilieren usw.) bewirkt das Einsetzen der Option "linear" in die
lilo.conf einen gr��eren Unterschied als vorher, n�mlich nun Nutzung von
INT13Ext. Ich kann hier z.B. prima von einer Partition booten, die bei
Zylindernummer 5103 beginnt. Es bleibt allerdings bei diesem
vergleichsweise geringf�gigen Eingriff eine 8 GByte Grenze bestehen,
weil auch in der linearen Darstellung die Sektordeskriptoren mit nur
24bit Breite gespeichert sind; das reicht bis 2^24 * 512 Byte.
lilo bietet ja sehr viele Features.... ob die alle mit dem Patch
funktionieren, habe ich nicht getestet. Es bleibt also vorl�ufig im
experimentellen Stadium. Die ganz normale Anwendung von lilo
geht aber damit - jedenfalls hier. Wer auch damit herumprobieren m�chte,
--> http://home.t-online.de/home/rolf.siebrecht/lilo1024.html
Bye,
Rolf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: ALL LINUX SEARCH ENGINES
Date: 5 Jul 1999 17:49:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and wrote the following ....
>www.chipmod.com/search
>
>FOR FOUND 100% FREE -= LINUX SEARCH ENGINES =-
Wow, at least 4 linux engines and a lot of sex sites.
Try a real one
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
(java needed)
Regards Hans
--
Linux / Com21 kabel modem / CMI8330 Soundpro Mini HOWTO
http://linux.gelrevision.nl/
7:48pm up 7 days, 21:47, 2 users, load average: 1.04, 0.37, 0.12
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Kovalev")
Subject: Re: LILO hangs on LI
Date: 5 Jul 1999 17:07:47 GMT
I had exactly the same problem:
2 hdd : 1st win 2nd linux, and I tried to install lilo on 2nd(/dev/hdc) so
it can boot both, by changing bios boot sequence to "D,.."
It didn't work for me. I ended up physically switching the drives.
Now when lilo and linux are on /dev/hda it's fine.
I got an impression (by reading lilo docs) that it's incabable
of being the primary boot loader if installed somewhere other than 1st hdd
(or floppy), no matter what is the bios boot sequence.
If you finally make it work your way and boot from secondary drive,
let me know.
Cheers
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,redhat.general
Subject: Can't get ppp to work w/ RH 6.0
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:54:38 -0400
I'm able to dial out using KDE, but after the ISP answers and try's to
negotiate a ppp connection, I get dumped. The baud rate is set to 115k and
doesn't matter if I make it slower. The modem is a Modem Blaster (Creative
Lab) external which worked fine in RH 5.2. I attached a copy of the debug
log file. Thanks again for everyone helping.
Ed
Jul 5 12:11:18 localhost pppd[6493]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
Jul 5 12:11:18 localhost pppd[6493]: Using interface ppp0
Jul 5 12:11:18 localhost pppd[6493]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua1
Jul 5 12:11:24 localhost pppd[6493]: Remote message: Login Succeeded
Jul 5 12:12:01 localhost pppd[6493]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jul 5 12:12:01 localhost pppd[6493]: Modem hangup
Jul 5 12:12:01 localhost pppd[6493]: Connection terminated.
Jul 5 12:12:01 localhost pppd[6493]: Connect time 0.8 minutes.
Jul 5 12:12:01 localhost pppd[6493]: Exit.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To:
linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,flashnet.it.hobby.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem with Iomega ZIP.
Date: 5 Jul 1999 21:11:40 GMT
On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:38:57 +0200, Marc Leeman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got the same.
>
> insmod parport
> insmod ppa
>
> solves it for me
Or modprobe ppa. I think you have to have "Kernel module loader"
compiled in though.
--
Darren Winsper - http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/darren.winsper
'"Whaddar we gonna do today Bill?" "The same thing we do every day,
Balmer...."' - Craig Kelly in comp.os.linux.advocacy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process?
Date: 5 Jul 1999 21:30:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:02:13 GMT,
Matthias Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does Linux clear memory blocks before granting processes access to
>them? In other words. Does a program that works with sensitive data
Yes, it does. Kernel processes don't necessarily get zeroed pages
though.
>have to clear all its memory blocks before terminating to eliminate
>the possibility of another process getting a previously used memory
>block that still contains passwords etc.
That might be a good idea. You would also have to lock the memory
region intended for such purposes to prevent it from being swapped out,
even temporarily. Users aren't supposed to get to such, but you never
know.
>In a situation where many people use the same computer (e.g. a
>University's computer room) this might be a real issue. I don't want
>strange people to catch fragments of my emails just by doing a bunch
>of mallocs an then scanning the memory blocks. MSB
Won't work.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kdm instead of xdm??
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:47:27 -0500
Hi,
Can somebody please tell me how to make kdm available at startup instead
of xdm?
Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:19:03 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compile: 'make dep' errors: .h files are not being found...
There is somewhere a symlink to be done. I don't have it handy, but it
should be in the kernel HOWTO.
Marc
--
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS), 0x31748570 (DH)
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:49:44 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel patch 2.2.10
Kris wrote:
>
> Hi Frederic L. W. Meunier,
>
> >>This worked for me too. Kind of disapointing that a patch has to be
> >>modified by the end user. For the record I'm using patch 2.1b
> >
> If his version of patch is _that_ old, chances are his system is
> relatively ancient also, and that it's inherently insecure. So, any
> crackers reading this thread will think "oh, kewl!" and off they go.
>
Do you mean 2.1b to be _that_ old? SuSE 6.0 ships with it.
Marc
--
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS), 0x31748570 (DH)
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:49:49 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Duplex printing!
I guess if your printer is duplex capable, then it also has postscript.
In that case you should try to get your hands on a ppd (postscript
printer definition or so) file. I don't know the format of it or if
apsfilter can use it, but it's a start.
Marc
--
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS), 0x31748570 (DH)
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:23:10 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: df on raid disk
Rodolphe wrote:
>
> I've read in linux-raid mailing list that kernel 2.2.7 to 2.2.10 can not
> handle raid anymore. Does any one know why ?
>
Huhh? Working with stock 2.2.9/2.2.10 since they're out. Surely
raid0/linear are not affected?
I'll go and check 'df': Nope, works fine.
Marc
--
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS), 0x31748570 (DH)
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