Linux-Misc Digest #973, Volume #18 Wed, 10 Feb 99 08:13:14 EST
Contents:
Simple text processor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CMI8330 Howto (Rob Tillotson)
Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (Karel Jansens)
Re: Problem with NPRINT and LPR (Izak Burger)
Re: running gs as a non-root user (Karsten Suehring)
Re: How can I get the 2B channels up in my ISDN Modem using RH5.2 ("JLS")
Re: i'm looking for some of those great looking linux icons (Tim Laursen)
How do I know which window manager I am using? (Benyang Tang)
Re: lresolv Libraries? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Linux printing problem (Mihai Moise)
Re: PPP Dialers (Bill Unruh)
Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke) ("Edwin van der Elst")
Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (Matthias Warkus)
Re: KDE RPMs for Red Hat 5.2 ??? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (David Kastrup)
Re: X Apps via Telnet (Rob O'Connell)
Re: Umount won't unmount /usr (Rob O'Connell)
Re: swapon -s returning error (Rob O'Connell)
Re: kernel too big? (Mark Matties)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
Re: Rebooting Linux (Simon H. Garlick)
Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors ("David R. Bergstein")
Re: LINUX INTERNET (Lyle Taylor)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Simple text processor
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:54:31 GMT
I am looking for a small and simple text processor for Linux to write letters
and small documents with a minimal set of formatting options like underline,
bold, paragraph numbering and table of contents.
Perhaps for XFree, but perhaps something on the level of WordPerfect 4.x (of
which there used to be a Unix version).
Regards, Michiel
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From: Rob Tillotson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CMI8330 Howto
Date: 09 Feb 1999 11:05:35 PST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters) writes:
> Mike Plemmons wrote:
> :I have searched Dejanews and have come up with nothing. Can someone tell
> :me where I can get the CMI8330 Howto?
>
> You won't find anything. It uses a soundpro chip wich is not compatible with
> even the 2.2.1 kernel. If you want to get the most out of it then you will
> have to use the 4front (opensound) drivers.
Not true. The CMI8330 works just fine as an SB16 or MSS -- it's plug
and play, of course, so you have to use isapnptools to initialize it.
There are basically only two things to know:
First, you should configure both the SB16 and MSS devices in
isapnptools, even though you probably only want to use one of them.
Second, when the chip boots, it sets a couple of its custom registers
to an undesirable state. In particular, it mutes the analog CD-in and
line-in -- if you want to use either of those, you need to run a small
program (found in the CMI8330 HOWTO) to un-mute them. The CMI8330 on
my mainboard also annoyingly turns on surround at boot, so I have
modified the setup program to also turn it off.
Otherwise, it's a fairly generic sound chip, which works just fine
with the drivers in 2.2.x. Compile both the SB and MSS modules, and
take your pick at run time...
(As for how to find the CMI8330 HOWTO... if DejaNews won't cough it
up, I'll be happy to supply the setup program to the original poster
and provide additional assistance by e-mail.)
Enjoy,
--Rob
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Rob Tillotson N9MTB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: 9 Feb 1999 19:59:37 GMT
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:38:03, Allen Crider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Clive wrote:
> >
> > Whats to stop them ?
> >
> > Steve Salgo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >Kinda scary, huh?
> > >
> > >
>
> I'm sure they're already stealing lots of Linux code for Windows 2000�
That would _certainly_ make an interesting lawsuit, given the contents of
the GPL.
Unless Microsoft were willing to make Windows 2000 open source, of course.
As for the rest... who cares?
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
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If we could have our cake and eat it,
people would start whining about seconds.
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From: Izak Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problem with NPRINT and LPR
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:05:57 +0200
I had the exact same problem. So far I havent seen any answer to this so
I thought I might as well answer it.
My solution was to dump lpr and get LPRng. You can also look at the
article I wrote in the November issue of Linux gazzette
(http://www.ssc.com/lg/). There are however some things in the article
that are not quite clear (Even if I have to admit that myself). So if you
have any trouble, I can send you all the stuff I have here.
You can try this test, this was the giveaway for me:
somewhere in the printfilter file, insert a "slist>/tmp/list.txt" or
whatever. slist should dump a list of netware servers. In my case I got
no list, implying that vannilla lpr can not see netware servers somehow.
LPRng has been great, and I have even dumped lpr on my own system at home,
even though it is not connected to any network at all :)
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From: Karsten Suehring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: running gs as a non-root user
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:05:52 +0100
> svgalib: cannot get I/O permissions
>
> I tried compiling a new version of svgalib, and that didn't
> work. Is it simply a matter of changing the permissions for
> some program or device, or is there another solution?
Its a general problem of svgalib. The library can access
the SVGA hardware only as root.
A good svgalib porgram should, if startded with setUID root,
change its UID to the one of the user who started the progam.
I don't know if gs does or not.
If you want avoid the root permissions, you should try
an X version of gs.
Karsten
--
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Der Toast springt hoch, der Toast springt weit,
Warum auch nicht, er hat ja Zeit.
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From: "JLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I get the 2B channels up in my ISDN Modem using RH5.2
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:03:30 -0500
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.dcom.isdn
ppp options have to have asyncmap 0.
Jeff Sofferin
Mark Cooperstein wrote in message ...
>for one thing, the init string below won't work because you MUST escape any
>ampersands "&" with a backslash character, eg:
>ATS71=1S80=1\&D2
>
>I don't have any experience with the IQ and Linux, although I do own an IQ
and
>have used it extensively with DUN and Win98. Currently, I have an Motorola
>BitSurfr PRO hooked up to a 2.1.130 Linux box and it works great with both
>channels. It took some diddling to get it to work at 230K, but eventually
I
>figured it out.
>
>Are you sure that your ISP will allow a 2B connection for your account?
>(Stupid question, but I had to ask....). If you haven't setup with them
for
>2B ISDN, they will usually nuke the second channel as soon as it tries to
>authenticate.
>
>
>Mark
>
>In article <79o9k4$6ns$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>Any response you get from this I would also like to read...
>>I have the exact same problem..
>>Keith
>>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Xaymara Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I have a 3Com Impact IQ ISDN modem (external) on a machine running Linux
>>> RedHat 5.2 (and the 2.2.1 kernel). I can connect to my ISP just fine
>>> but with one channel instead of the two channels. How can I connect
>>> with the two channels? I thought that changing the initstring from ATZ
>>> to ATs71=1s80=1&d2 would do it, but it still connects to only one
>>> channel. I did changed the speed to 115200 and I'm using the command
>>> ifppp0 up to connect.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>
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From: Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i'm looking for some of those great looking linux icons
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:02:22 +0100
Lawrence Holtsclaw wrote:
>
> I'm creating a web server and I sure would like to use one of those
> great looking linux powerd gif's. If you know where I might locate
> one, please let me know.
??? They are all over the place. Whenever you see one, you can grab it
from the page by right clicking on the image. You could start searching
at www.linux.org, and work your way from there. Oh, and one from the top
of my head: http://www.hotmail.dk/ has one of the icons you are
requesting.
--
(\ Best regards, /)
-||||8- Tim -8||||-
(/ 2B OR NOT 2B = FF \)
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From: Benyang Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:08:30 -0800
I am confused by fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm95, AnotherLevel. All these seem to be
the same thing but have their own configuration files. How can I cwhich
one my Linux is using?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: lresolv Libraries?
Date: 9 Feb 1999 20:09:07 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Teichert) writes:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AdmFrodos)
>writes:
>>Where would I find a version of the resolver libraries? I own the Slackware
>You don't. The functions are in the libc. Just remove the -lresolve.
Actually at least on redhat, they are in libresolv (no e at the end)
locate libresol
/lib/libresolv-2.0.7.so
/lib/libresolv.so.2
/usr/lib/libresolv.a
/usr/lib/libresolv.so
/usr/lib/libresolv_p.a
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From: Mihai Moise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux printing problem
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:39:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> and yes, the printer is connected to the right p.port (LPT1, /dev/lp1)
>
> any suggestions?
>
> thanx in advance,
> .:jay.
>
>
My printer used to be not working, but lp said "/dev/lp1: device not
configured."
Anyway, in case you have the same problem which I do, in newer kernels, like the
2.2.0pre4 there is a parallel port driver called parport. It assigns the first
parallel port to /dev/lp0, I mean the one which would usually be /dev/lp1 in
older kernels. You should therefore edit the file /etc/printcap to read
/dev/lp0.
See also the file Documentation/parport.txt in the kernel source for how to
configure the modules. This needs to be done too, I think, and maybe some
auto-probing too.
Tell me if this solves your problem.
Mihai
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP Dialers
Date: 9 Feb 1999 20:12:27 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elliott Chapin) writes:
Or wvdial. However, it is really not that hard to set it up from scratch
and it also then allows you to control and understand what is happening.
(and if your ISP is using some weird authentication procedure, it will
allow you to figure out what it is. All of th eautomatic procedures make
assumptions, which are not always good assumptions.
email me if you want those detailed instructions.
]>> and I was wondering if there are any other PPP dialers on the net like Kppp ?
]There's also ezppp
]http://www.interlog.com/~echapin
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From: "Edwin van der Elst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:15:01 +0100
Jay O'Brien wrote in message <36c0e930.8649805@news>...
>
>system that controlled the entire ship. The result of asking the
>system to divide by zero? The boat sat dead in the water for a number
>of hours.
>
I'm not advocating NT here, but on Unix the *application* would have stopped
working as well. (Core-dump or something like that). Not really an OS
problem,
but an application problem.
Edwin van der Elst
>
>Jay
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:38:47 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:11:37 GMT...
..and Steve Salgo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kinda scary, huh?
Yawn. Go away.
mawa
--
Every woman and every man should at least try to keep in mind through
their whole life just how incredibly bad one is able to feel during
puberty.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: KDE RPMs for Red Hat 5.2 ???
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:38:20 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 08 Feb 1999 18:05:40 GMT...
..and Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If Red Hat puts KDE and Qt on its CD along with Gnome, then hats off to
> the folks at Red Hat. They will prove to world that they truely have
> the end users best interests at heart. If KDE and Qt are missing then
> the Linux doomsayers have been right and its time to switch to another
> distribution! We will have to wait and see.
Even if they don't package KDE, it won't be the end of the world.
Must a distribution be a kitchen sink?
No. Choice is good. Both KDE and Gnome in one CD set is good. But it's
not like packaging just one of the is a political statement, for
Chrissakes!
And since they're both GPLed, well... what would be Red Hat's benefit
if they packaged only Gnome?
mawa
--
Every woman and every man should at least try to keep in mind through
their whole life just how incredibly bad one is able to feel during
puberty.
-- mawa
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 10 Feb 1999 13:07:21 +0100
"Mark Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Max F Lang wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >In the 80's among OS/2
> >developer groups it was pretty well known that BG -hated- children,
> >esspecially babies. Couldn't stand to be around them. Now he has two(?).
>
>
> You get used to them... if you're not careful, you actually
> become quite fond of them.
You don't need to get used to them if you are working 20h/day and have
a large enough mansion.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: X Apps via Telnet
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:50:52 -0600
you need to get an x-server app for windoze - something like exodus, there
are some freebie ones out there - I think TNT or something like that - there
may be links from winehq.com
then you telnet to your linux box and redirect the display to the windows
machine
linuxbox% setenv DISPLAY windozemachine:0
linuxbox% xclock &
and xclock should pop up
but be careful with xhost privileges....
g'luck
Rob
dgap wrote:
> Hi, there...
>
> On my LAN I have a Linux server and some PC's with Windows 9*/NT4.
>
> I want to develop graphical Apps (using Tcl/Tk or some Motif-like library)
> on my Linux Server, nut I also want that users on the PC's use those apps
> (and, of course, the graphical environment). Is this possible??
>
> I know that, in some ways (for example, when using SGI Irix...), it is
> possible to redirect the graphics output to another computer (I think that
> it involves setting the display variable, although I don't know how to do
> it), but will it work with PC's ??
>
> Thank you for your help and I hope to ear from you soon
>
> Paulo Ferreira
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Umount won't unmount /usr
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:42:32 -0600
maybe putting a "ps -axu >> /var/log/messages"
followed by a "fuser /usr >> /var/log/message"
just before the "umount -a" to see which processes have not been killed?
Rob
Dan Srebnick wrote:
> My rc.6 script that runs to do a system shutdown does a umount -a to
> unmount all filesystems. This used to work just fine. Recently, however,
> I am unable to unmount /usr because it is busy. I've made a lot of system
> changes recently, including upgrading to glibc2.06. Can someone suggest a
> way to diagnose why this is happening and propose a fix?
>
> Many thanks.
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: swapon -s returning error
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:10:20 -0600
> /proc is not swap file. I not sure of this.
the first response to this post is more on the money - yes proc definitely is not
the swap file/dir - I'd agree with the first response - either no support for proc,
no mount mount for proc or maybe a change in the proc setup so some compatibility
flag needs to be set (ie swapon and procfs out of sync with each other)
good luck
Rob
> >
> > | When I run swapon -s I get this:
> > | swapon: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory
> >
> > does your kernel have support for the /proc filesystem? if not, this would
> > explain it
> >
> > | I don't think the swap space has ever been utilized. I tried loading my
> > | system, which has 48 mb of ram, with no utilization. Free mem dropped to
> > | less than 1MB, and still no swapping.
> >
> > clip the output of a 'free' so you can better see exactly what's going on
>
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell
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From: Mark Matties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel too big?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:06:17 +0000
yes - i know that my kernel is too big - that's the point of the post.
yes - i know that many options can be added as modules to reduce kernel
size. however,
i have not added any.
why is it that the default kernel options create a kernel that is too
big
when most everythig is turned off anyway??
any useful ideas?
mark
Dan Nguyen wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.setup Mark Matties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : make dep; make clean; make; make zImage
> ^^^^
> Don't need the lone make there
>
> : System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
>
> : any ideas??
>
> Your kernel is too big. Did you try using bzImage? Instead of a make
> zImage use make bzImage. If that does work, consider making things
> which would not normally be used as a module. Like I have IDE-CDROM
> controller as a module because I don't use my cdrom that often. I
> also have ppp, and a few other things as a module. That will keep
> your kernel smaller.
>
> --
> Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 10 Feb 1999 13:18:53 +0100
David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> > You make some pretty good points, but I think your target is off-
> > center a bit. The US government is not trying to define 'what' an OS
> > is, but whether or not Microsoft's immense OS power is allowing it to
> > hedge other markets.
> >
> > If the Internet Explorer is so much better than Netscape and Microsoft
> > is really "COMPETING in the free market" then why didn't they compete
> > toe-to-toe with Netscape instead of "integrating" it into Windows? It
> > seems to be conveniently coincidental that the OS needed an internet
> > browser right when IE was at a fraction of the marketshare it enjoys
> > today. The obvious answer to this question is that Microsoft
> > integrated Windows into it's OS to strangle Netscape -- not very fair
> > play, now is it.
>
> Your second paragraph here goes against your first. It would have been
> perfectly fine for Microsoft to integrate their browser into the OS *IF*
> Netscape had just as much ability to integrate their browser into the
> OS. Integration of the browser into the OS is a perfectly fine idea,
> but, due to technological issues, only one browser could be integrated
> into the OS. Therefore, doing this would probably (95%+) wipe out the
> independent browser market.
This is wrong. If you make sensible interfaces for browser
integration and publish them, *then* hand out your own browser as
something that integrates in just that manner, you have a sound
technical solution, probably the sanest possible one. Netscape would
have had to follow after, but all Microsoft would have gotten would
have been a headstart.
Microsoft decided *not* to compete. They are integrating their
browser without well-defined and published APIs. There is no
technically compelling reason to do so. They have tampered with a few
DLLs so that once installed, IE is pretty hard to remove to the
average user. Since it is not really tightly integrated, however, it
could be removed without adverse technical effects if you cater for
the traps Microsoft has laid out. To obfuscate this, Microsoft tried
to use a doctored video tape in court to suggest otherwise.
Even browser integration would not be anticompetitive or a problem per
se. The problem is that Microsoft has taken and still is taking all
measures it can to make sure nobody else can integrate their browser
in the same way.
This is *not* a technological problem, and that is why Microsoft
should get slapped hard for this manner of trying to kill competition
by refusing to compete on reasonably equal grounds and technical
merits.
While I don't think (as some) that Microsoft should be forced to ship
Netscape as well at the option of Windows customer, they *should* be
forced to make all necessary information for doing that publically
available so that Netscape as well as other browser vendors have a
chance to compete with Internet Explorer on Windows. And this should
be controlled tightly to ensure they don't hide important APIs, making
the task more or less undoable for people not into the secret.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon H. Garlick)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rebooting Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:20:32 GMT
Yea, verily on Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:48:29 -0500, did Kristofer Vorwerk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write unto us:
>Sean Loaring wrote:
>
>> Working with 'doze drivers is horrible. Nothing like having to restart a
>> system five times to get a damn network card working properly (as far as
>> 'doze goes).
>
>Heh heh heh. I agree -- it gets frustrating after a while!
>
>Two days ago, under Linux, I compiled and installed a new glibc (2.1),
>compiled and installed a new compiler (egcs 1.1.1), and compiled and
>installed a new ld.so (hmm... 1.9.9, i think), and didn't have to reboot
>once ;)
>
>Apart from being rather poorly thought-out, I imagine that Windows needs
>to reboot after making minor changes in order to stay "compatible" with
>all hardware. (I can't think of any other reason for not being able to
>unload a driver and load it back up again, without shutting down the
>whole gui.)
I'm pretty new to Linux, and I recently set up an old 486 with Linux and
SAMBA to sit in the corner as a file/print server. I installed Linux on the
486 (machine 1) via FTP from a CDROM in a machine in a different room
(machine 2), and drove the whole process via telnet from my desktop machine
(machine 3). I installed SAMBA on the 486, and due to my newbieness had to
mess around a bit with smb.conf until I got it all working satisfactorily.
In other words I issued a whole lot of "smb restart" commands in a telnet
window on my desktop machine - after initial installation the 486 did not
need to get rebooted ONCE.
After playing the "your machine must be restarted before the changes will
take effect" game with Windows for a few years, I was blown away :-)
S
Simon H. Garlick <"simon" at "nzgames.com">
PGP Keys available at www.nzgames.com/pgp.html
Viva la Linux! www.linux.org
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From: "David R. Bergstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:33:53 -0500
Thanks - the tip seems to have worked and my system is now rock stable.
Prior to cleaning out the CPU grease & dust I had upgraded to Linux
Kernel 2.2.1 and another similar system crash occurred - this was
motivation enough for me to open the case and try your suggrestion.
Cheers,
- David
"David R. Bergstein" wrote:
>
> José Ureña wrote:
> >
> > When using Heat Tranfer compound (grease), remember to remove any
> > excess from the sides and walls of the heat sink. (the Radiator)
> > The compound tends to collect dust and turns into a kind of insulator
> > that prevents the heat from excaping the heat sink.
> >
> That's a great tip - I will check for this next time I service the unit.
>
> Thanks again,
> -
> David R. Bergstein
> Systems Engineer and Blues Musician
> Rockville, MD
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From: Lyle Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX INTERNET
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:47:30 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Philipp Heise wrote:
>
> how to get ppp in the kernel ?!
> in the howto file i read that the kernel had to be new compiled or
> something like that . i am a
> newbie in linux and i only want to know how to get in the internet over
> linux.
>
> please help me !
>
> :-)
Even newbies need to read and follow HOWTO's. :-) Otherwise, give some
more information, such as what Linux installation you are using, etc.
That gives people more to go off of when responding. Otherwise, it's
hard to know what you specifically need to do.
Lyle
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