Linux-Misc Digest #973, Volume #23 Mon, 27 Mar 00 18:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: CDRW as floppy (Johan Kullstam)
Re: announce: library for event ques (Anthony Liekens)
Re: Duplicating hard disk (Grant Edwards)
Re: Does SuSE-linux or FreeBSD supports Turtle Beach sound card? ("J. C.")
Re: Netscape printer fonts, page headers & footers (Achim Linder)
Re: Help w/grep,sed to fix CR/LF problem from MS file... (Robie Basak)
Re: find and grep ? (Robie Basak)
Linux~MS Backoffice Equivalent Resources (asanam)
Re: Can Linux be setup to host web folders? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to turn X window autostart off? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Which RDBMS would you choose? (Michael Martin)
Re: Ftape error - read only (Rob Komar)
SuSE Linux password problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Partitioning Problems (Michael Kelly)
Re: Dynamic Libraries (Michael Kelly)
Re: SuSE Linux password problem (Ninad Ghodke)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Linux GUI query ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Duplicating hard disk (Minko Markov)
Re: find and grep ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: >1 linux on the same computer? can it be done? (Me)
Re: Q3 Win32 on Linux? (Matt Dorsch)
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDRW as floppy
Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:50:25 -0500
Henrik Enqvist IB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is it possible to use a cd-rw disc as a floppy. I mean, just put the
> disc in the writer, mount in some way and use it as any other
> filesystem?
not really. a cd-rw random access for reading, but writing requires a
linear access. thus you can certainly mount and read from a cd
filesystem, you cannot write randomly. you must burn an image at one
shot.
it is possible to append to the tail of a disc, but a normal cd-rom
cannot read such a disc until you finalize by writing the index table.
once you have finalized the disc, you can no longer write to it.
the re-write feature is a global disc eraser rather than a way of
using it as a file system.
either use temporary storage on a hard drive to manipulate the data or
get a large floppy like ls-120 or one of those magnito-optical drives.
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: Anthony Liekens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: announce: library for event ques
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:30:31 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
> Hi,
> I have put together a simple library called TimeQ.
> From the README <snip>
If you're building complex agent system, your library containing a Queue and a
couple events is not enough. Try to add generic or abstract agents and events
to get something done...
Anthony
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Duplicating hard disk
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:40:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thorsten Bucksch wrote:
>Using dd seem to be convenient but when doing this the partition is
>copied raw as it is, i.e. after successful copying a "df " on the copy
>shows the same size as the master partition.
>
>How can I arrange to duplicate a small Linux partition to a larger one?
I'd use dump/restore. I've always used them with tape or other
backing storage, but I think you can pipe them together to do a
disk copy.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Yow! Is my fallout
at shelter termite proof?
visi.com
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From: "J. C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Does SuSE-linux or FreeBSD supports Turtle Beach sound card?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:53:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex Lam." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: Can't find info on SuSE's hardware db. Does anybody knows if ALSA
: or OSS supports Turtle Beach sound card? If it does, which model?
:
: Linux kernel 2.2.x, or FreeBSD 3.3. (I bought the official SuSE 6.3
: CD set, I believe the ALSA is in there and paid for.)
<http://www.alsa-project.org/src/soundcards.html>
The ALSA site has a list of supported cards; the Turtle Beach Wavefront
is supported, but not (unfortunately) my old Multisound Classic, which
cannot be run under the 2.3.x kernels.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Achim Linder)
Subject: Re: Netscape printer fonts, page headers & footers
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:59:37 +0200
On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:58:56 +0100, Achim Linder wrote:
> wline = " "strftime("%a %b %d %Y")" "fline") show\n" \
Oops. This was meant to read
wline = " "strftime("%a %b %d %Y")" "fline" ) show\n" \
Achim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Help w/grep,sed to fix CR/LF problem from MS file...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Mar 2000 05:05:07 GMT
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:19:05 GMT, Kelly said:
>Hello All!!
>
>I have a text file from an M$ Access DB. It is a csv delimited with the
>tilde (~). The text fields in this file are contained in double quotes
>("). One or more of these text fields are description type fields where
>the user was allowed to enter free form text. Well, these people put in
>CR/LF instead of just letting the text wrap around. These CR\LF's are
>messing up my cut commands I'm using to manipulate the data (separating
>columns) into different files. Can someone out there suggest a way to
>get rid of these in the text fields...I can't figure out how to do this.
>I tried using some sed examples I found....I am new to this and am
>trying to learn, but, time is against me here on this project.
>Suggestions appreciated....
I don't know about sed/grep, but you can use vi (really vim, but use
vi to start):
Load using vi filename
then press :, a command line will appear
type '1,$ join' (without the quotes) then enter
press ZZ (note - case matters) to save and quit.
This will turn all the cr's into spaces. Forgive me if you already
somewhat know vi, but no-one I know does :-)
If vi puts ^M's at the end of every line, then you need to get rid of
the ^M's first (as unix/linux use CR and DOS uses CRLF - after
loading, type:
:1,$ s/^V^M//g
(the ^V is a Ctrl-V etc, the ^V won't appear but the ^M will, case
matters).
>
>If I can show the power of Linux tools to the powers that be on this
>one...it gets us a little closer to using Linux on the project as a
>whole...
>
>TIA!!
>
>Kelly
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>ps. Please email response in addition to post....
I don't even know how to from slrn, nor have I set up SMTP servers
etc. It's normally expected that you read the newsgroup, so that
everybody can benefit from the answers.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Robie.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: find and grep ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Mar 2000 05:08:40 GMT
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:09:27 +1000, Doug said:
>Hello all,
>
>How do I give the output of something like
>find . -name '*html'
>to grep so that I can search through the contents of all the found files.
>
>eg: to find all the *html files that contain <FORM>
>
>Piping doesn't seem to work as the file list is searched, not the contents
>of each file in the list.
The command rgrep is designed to do this without having to pipe
through find, although it's just another command to remember and pipes
do just as well.
Just my two pee :-)
Robie.
>
>Thanks,
>Doug
>
>
>
>
--
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Subject: Linux~MS Backoffice Equivalent Resources
From: asanam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:06:25 -0800
As there a good place to be informed on Linux SME equivalent
configurations and experiences as MS Backoffice?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can Linux be setup to host web folders?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:02:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Larry B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to use my linux box as a file server through the web via
> web folders. Can this be done? What packages would this involve? I
have
> samba installed and working currently.
>
"Web Folders" is Internet Explorer 5 speak for "WebDAV folders". There
is a module that plugs into the Apache web server (mod_dav) which, last
time I checked, will do what you want. The URL:
http://www.webdav.org
should get you started.
I played around with this a few months ago, and almost got it to work,
but IE started choking on something, then my boss starting wondering
what I was doing. It'll probably only take you a few hours to get
everything installed and set up, if you know Apache. If you don't, it
may take a little longer...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to turn X window autostart off?
Date: 27 Mar 2000 21:11:33 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Richard Cobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Simon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> try "linuxconf"
:>
:> Or read the documentation :-)
: While I'm all in favor of RTFM as a solution strategy, I wouldn't actually
: know where to find this in "The Docs<tm>". And I've been using Linux for 4
: years now! Where could one find the documentation for runlevels and their
: meanings, and other init-related stuff?
Any book on unix or unix admin. Fox's unix for the superuser springs to mind.
Peter
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From: Michael Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Which RDBMS would you choose?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:39:25 -0600
Dennis Edward wrote:
>
> Oracle just p*d me off again with their palm-out attitude, and I'm (not for
> the first time) considering replacing our Oracle RDBMS with an open-source
> alternative. The two that come to mind are Postgres and Interbase (when the
> source comes out). Since this is for a business setting, things like
> robustness, speed, and transaction/rollback ability are important. Our data
> is less than 10 GB, and read-mostly.
>
> Anyone done anything similar, and care to share some sooth?
I've been using PostgreSQL for awhile now. I like it. It's apparently
not
the fastest, but it appears to be pretty full-functional, and I haven't
been able to break it yet. I do admit that I don't run a tremendous
amount
of transactions against it (yet).
--
================================
Michael Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(713) 918-2631
================================
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From: Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ftape error - read only
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:01:26 -0800
scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had already tried changing permissions to /dev/qft0, though I
> forgot to say that in my original post. Anyone else have any idea? I
> refuse to believe that no one out there knows the answer to this. (That
> was a challenge, by the way!)
> Scott
> Robie Basak wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:30:10 GMT, scott said:
>> >Whenever I try writing to my Iomega 3200 tape drive, I get an error
>> >similar to the following;
>> >
>> >Cannot open /dev/qft0: Read-only file system
Hi,
you get this kind of error if you try to write to a tape that has the
write-lock on. If the tape doesn't have the write-lock on, then check
the little button in the tape drive itself to see if it isn't stuck
in the lock position. Normally, the button sticks out a few millimetres.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE Linux password problem
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:39:09 GMT
hey,
I got SuSE Linux 6.1 and Windows 98 on my Laptop. I didn't use Linux for
a while and I forgot the root-password (I konw it's a shame ..)
I use LILO to chose which OS to boot. How can I make Linux accessable
again????????
I tryed to boot the kernel and to activate a shell and I thought I could
then change the password - but it didn't work !! I entered:
linux shell=/bin/bash
in the LILO-Prompt but I still have the "login and password" prompt.
What can I do ???
Thanks a lot,
Philipp
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Before you buy.
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning Problems
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:04:45 -0500
noel wrote:
>
> For the past few months, I've been struggling, unsuccessfully, to install
> Linux on my computer which currently runs Windows 98. My problem is with
> the partitioning process which is prevented from happening by virus
> software on my PC. I have uninstalled Norton AntiVirus from my computer
> and turned off the BIOS' virus checker but I am still prevented from
> applying the partitioning process when the PC reboots to start the process
> outside the Windows 98 environment. I appreciate you don't know what
> software there is on my PC but do you know of any way that I can find out
> what is causing this problem when the computer reboots and how I can stop
> it?
> Thanks a lot
>
> Noel Evans
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Hi Noel. If you have Win98 it's worth the $50 to get
Partition Magic 5.0 or higher and save yourself the
aggravation. If there's a problem it will most likely
find it. Plus when you ask to resize a partition, it's
smart enough to change the size a bit so it lands on a
partition boundary that's compatible with NT, Win9x and
Linux(and maybe OS/2 too, I dunno')
If you resize c: with it and tell it to make another
partition, if you select 'yes' when it asks if you
are going to install an OS, and select Linux, it will
automatically suggest a swap partition in line with the
size of your ram. Then when you run the Linux install
it will see the ext2 and swap partition and know what
you want to do. Much easier!
Good luck.
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dynamic Libraries
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:58:59 -0500
Jose Juan Iglesias Rebollo wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> How can I determine at compiling time where the application shall look
> for dynamic libraries if possible?
>
> I have Red Hat 6.0. I want to decide where to install these libraries
> instead of installing all of them in /usr/lib, say
> /usr/local/lib/whateverapp/. I guess this must be done at compiling
> time.
>
> Thanks in advance!
/usr/local/lib is usually a good choice.
I believe the convention is also to check
for an environment variable
LD_LIBRARY_PATH
to check for shared libs.
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: Ninad Ghodke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux password problem
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:23:52 -0800
use -s at lilo prompt
lilo: linux -s ,It drops you to a single user shell .
change the password after you get the shell .
ninad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hey,
> I got SuSE Linux 6.1 and Windows 98 on my Laptop. I didn't use Linux for
> a while and I forgot the root-password (I konw it's a shame ..)
> I use LILO to chose which OS to boot. How can I make Linux accessable
> again????????
> I tryed to boot the kernel and to activate a shell and I thought I could
> then change the password - but it didn't work !! I entered:
> linux shell=/bin/bash
> in the LILO-Prompt but I still have the "login and password" prompt.
> What can I do ???
> Thanks a lot,
> Philipp
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:29:19 GMT
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:52:06 GMT, Michael W. Coulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul wrote:
>>
>> Funny, windows runs fine but linux takes 4 hours of setup to get a printer
>> and a usb mouse working.
>> Become superior before claiming you are.
>
>
>Hmm - my printer was set up in about 5 minutes. Can't comment on USB as
>I've not seen enough USB devices to warrant using it. (Everywhere I
>look - USB hubs. No devices to plug into the damn things. :)
USB is no problem for someone not intimidated by a kernel compile.
I'm not sure if there is a USB driverset that you can just plug
into a 2.2 kernel yet (ala v4l & 2.0).
--
It is not the advocates of free love and software
that theare the communists, but rather those that |||
advocate or perpetuate the necessity of only using / | \
one option among many, like in some regime where
product choice is a thing only seen in museums.
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux GUI query
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:47:05 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harvey Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> What choices are there for Linux GUIs?
>
> I know about KDE and XFree86; are there any others?
You are obviously confused. XFree86 is a server that gives a graphical
capability. There are others such as MetroX. Most of them are commercial
products and generally work a bit better than the free version and are
specialized toward different graphics capabilities, or laptops, etc.
KDE is a desktop that can run on top of a server. As is Gnome, IceWM, XFCE,
FVWM, Enlightenment, WindowMaker, and a whole host of others.
> Is there any appreciable difference in application support
> for the various GUIs?
That depends on what you mean. Some (Enlightenment, AfterStep,
WindowMaker, Gnome, KDE, etc) have applets that will only work in the
desktop environment for which it was designed. Most have programs that
come with them that can work in other environments: Kppp can be used with
any desktop, as can most other KDE programs, Gnome programs, etc.
If you mean apps like Gimp and various soundplayers, many are desktop-
independent and can be run regardless of the desk enviroment.
> Further, is there any work going on to define a common
> GUI API to which application developers could write
> and which would leave the actual GUI a user choice?
Gnome is supposedly sort of like that. There are many desktops that will
use Gnome capability if it is available, and some of them give the option
to use it or not. That leaves the possiblity of using some of the Gnome
programs without having to have all of the overhead (KDE and Gnome are
resource hogs IMHO).
As for a complete standard, no way, no how, though some are trying hard to
do exactly that. This is Linux. Linux=Choice. I personally like some of the
KDE and Gnome apps. I personally hate both KDE and Gnome because they
eat up everything available on my computer. Therefore, I use IceWM
(sometimes XFCE) to keep overhead low and use the apps I like from the
others. I prefer (and will fight) to keep it that way.
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Subject: Re: Duplicating hard disk
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:56:04 GMT
Hi,
I had to do it a while ago. Used tar, but be careful, some
of the options do not copy device files and pipes!
So, suppose that you have installed the new hardware,
done appropriate partition(s) on it, and formatted them.
Suppose your target partition is called /dev/hdb1 -
this is where you want to copy. Suppose that the
current one is /dev/hda4
Linux is still on the old partition only. You create
a new directory, say /NEW , then mount the target
partition to it
mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /NEW
Then
cd /
tar cpf - . --exclude NEW --exclude proc | (cd /NEW; tar xpf -)
You don't want to copy the /proc directory. You want to avoid
recursive copying as well.
When it finishes, check the result
umount /NEW
fsck.ext2 -f /dev/hdb1
Then mount again and make the appropriate corrections
in the /etc/fstab of the _new_ partition. Then you
have to modify LILO as well.
Good luck.
--
Minko
Thorsten Bucksch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all!
>
> Briefly:
> Up to now I have been sharing 1 hard disk with Linux and another OS.
> Now I have built a new hard disk into my computer and want to copy my
> linux partitions from the first to the second HD without re-installing
> Linux.
>
> Using dd seem to be convenient but when doing this the partition is
> copied raw as it is, i.e. after successful copying a "df " on the copy
> shows the same size as the master partition.
>
> How can I arrange to duplicate a small Linux partition to a larger one?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Thorsten
>
--
Minko Markov - Doctoral Student in Computer Science,
University of Victoria, Victoria, CANADA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office: (250) 721-8768 home: (250) 385-1041
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: find and grep ?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:27:58 -0600
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, James Silverton wrote:
> Andreas Kahari wrote:
> >
> > In article <8bnfgp$8rj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > How do I give the output of something like
> > > find . -name '*html'
> > > to grep so that I can search through the contents of all the found
> > files.
> > >
> > > eg: to find all the *html files that contain <FORM>
> > >
> > > Piping doesn't seem to work as the file list is searched, not the
> > contents
> > > of each file in the list.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Try
> >
> > grep '<FORM>' `find ./ -name "*.html" -print`
> >
> > Notice the use of backticks to get the filenames to run grep on.
>
> Neat! This is not meant to be be pedantic but the use of the back tick
> rather threw me since the only shell I use much is bash where
> $( commands ) would be more usual instead of ` commands `. However, I
> did check and I see that the back tick (or "back quote") method of
> command substitution is listed "for backwards compatibility".
I wonder. I always use the backticks. I've been under the impression
that most people do. I don't know.
In any case, command substitution is not a good idea for this problem. You
are, in effect, putting the names of many many files on the command line.
In practice there is a limit to the length of the command line which you
may easily exceed. Example: go to your root directory '/' and try
grep blahblah `find . -print`
You're just about guaranteed to get an error message about the argument
list being too long.
You are better off using -exec
find . -name "*.html" -exec grep blahblah {} \;
or xargs
find . -name "*.html" | xargs grep blahblah
--
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From: Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: >1 linux on the same computer? can it be done?
Date: 27 Mar 2000 22:59:32 GMT
There shouldn't be any problem with this, so long as *ALL* of the
partitions for the different distributions are distinct. That way
settings and installed programs in one don't affect the other.
The only other trick will be making sure LILO points to the right kernels
on the right partitions, but /etc/lilo.conf is a pretty straightforward
file. It ought to be trivial.
Let us know how it works out. One last thing that occured to me is that
LILO can pass variables to the kernel using the `append' statement.
Different kernels may need different variables and values for those variables.
Be careful about running different versions.
Later...
--J
Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: hello!
: i saw a post on this a while ago in some ng, but never saw any
: answers.
: also tried deja and a few search engines. no luck.
: i wonder is if it's problematic to install 2 linux systems on one
: computer?
: i now have mandrake7. also i got some free space and would like to try
: perhaps debian.
: what would happen if i tried another install?
: how would my now existing partitions be treated?
: could i use my /home partition on both systems?
: or would i perhaps HAVE too?
: is it even possible to have two different / or /boot (or whatever with
: the same name)
: on one single harddrive?
: any other things that would happen?
: all speculations/advice/thoughts are appreciated.
: thanks / alex
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From: Matt Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,rec.games.computer.quake.editing,rec.games.computer.quake.misc,rec.games.computer.quake.playing,rec.games.computer.quake.servers,sunyab.os.linux
Subject: Re: Q3 Win32 on Linux?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:04:21 GMT
Ed,
You'll probably find a bunch of useful information in loki.games.quake3 on
the news.lokigames.com news server. That's the Quake3 on Linux newsgroup... has
lots of Qs and As regarding GL installation for the cards that are supported,
for instance.
Matt
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