Linux-Misc Digest #990, Volume #18 Thu, 11 Feb 99 21:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: MetroX (Carl Petersen)
Joe Linux and Gary's Encyclopedia (Gary Momarison)
Re: Geochron for Linux? (Marco Tephlant)
Can printing from linux permanently change printer settings (Chetan Ahuja)
spoofing/hacking? (John Meissen)
help with xcopy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Christopher Browne)
Re: Opinions about LyX? (Larry Marso)
PPP connect but no ping! (Philip Denny)
Re: More bad news for NT (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Europarlement wishes to ban Proxy servers (Kelly and Sandy)
Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Opinions about LyX? (Larry Marso)
MySQL: Resolveip problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: kernel too big? (jongarmpark)
Re: KDE RPMs for Red Hat 5.2 ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:51:11 -0500
From: Carl Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MetroX
Bj�rn T Johansen wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any experience to share concerning MetroX?
> I am considering ordering MetroX and I was wondering if that's a bad
> idea?
>
> Regards,
>
> BTJ
MetroX works fine with two Millennium II cards in a multi-headed
configuration. Both XFree86 and X11R6.4 will hang the machine unless
one of the cards is removed so I don't really have a choice here. Bugs
in the millennium driver. Well worth the $39 in my case.
-Carl
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Joe Linux and Gary's Encyclopedia
Date: 10 Feb 1999 11:38:02 -0800
If any of you have appreciated my posts with answers or references
to pages of Gary's Encyclopedia, please submit the site to the
interesting "Joe Linux" site at
http://www.themes.org/joelinux/
They don't want self-submittals for some reason.
Thanks.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: Marco Tephlant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Geochron for Linux?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:04:20 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Steuber wrote:
> Steve Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> -> Has anyone seen or heard of a version of geochron for linux?
> ->
> -> Geochron is a program that shows a map of the world, with real-time
> -> display of the areas that are covered by daylight.
>
> Something like that is included with the SuSE distribution, but I
> forget what it is called :-(
>
> --
> David Steuber
> http://www.david-steuber.com
Um... err.. It's some kind of wierd active background thing in SuSE.
--
Marco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: Can printing from linux permanently change printer settings
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:02:34 GMT
Hi,
I (possibly) have a strange problem. I have a fujitsu 10PPV printer which is
connected to a Win95 machine on my little home network. On my main linux machine,
I am running samba and am printing to the laser printer through samba. So far I
have printed a few postscript pages and text pages. I have also had to turn on
the "send EOF" option to get the pages out of the printer. But all that is Ok now.
Now here's the strangenes... My wife who uses the Win95 machine to type stuff
and print from Microsoft Word. These days she is working on her thesis which
involves a lot of repeated printing of drafts. Suddenly she finds that in her
print-outs, some numbers ( which were in bold BTW) are being printed a little higher
than the rest of the test ... e.g. if she has the ( pseudo marked up) text:
fig <b>3</b>
the bold '3' prints sort of half way to the superscript position ( keeping the same
font size ). This did not happen in the previous printouts of the same text.
Now it could very well be a Word wierdness but I would like to know whether
it is possible to permanently change the printer settings using the PCL drivers of
ghostscript or in any other way, printing from linux. And if so, what can I do
to make sure that every time I print from my machine, it resets the original settings
after printing is finished.... Any hints or pointers will be appreciated...
Thanks
Chetan
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From: John Meissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: spoofing/hacking?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:35:51 -0800
I have someone who appears to be trying to spoof their way into
my network. I tend to get probed 4 or 5 times a day, but this is
getting a little aggressive. I know this isn't originating
internally because a) the firewall tells me so, and b) all the
other machines are curently powered off :-)
Can anyone give me some pointers on how to track this sucker down?
Can I capture the data in the packets to look at? He seems to
be trying to hit ftp, netbios, and something he expects at port
5301.
john-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Log excerpt follows:
Jan 3 01:57:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=9842 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 01:57:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=9843 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 02:09:50 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=46 S=0x10 I=9844 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=44 S=0x00 I=0 F=0x0000 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x00 I=1 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:113
192.168.0.1:5301 L=44 S=0x00 I=2 F=0x0000 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:113
192.168.0.1:5301 L=40 S=0x00 I=3 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:113
192.168.0.1:5301 L=73 S=0x00 I=4 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:113
192.168.0.1:5301 L=40 S=0x00 I=5 F=0x0000 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:113
192.168.0.1:5301 L=40 S=0x00 I=6 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:52 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=7 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:54 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=51 S=0x10 I=8 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:54 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=9 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:57 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=55 S=0x10 I=10 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:57 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=46 S=0x10 I=11 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:57 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=12 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:59 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=48 S=0x10 I=13 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:00:59 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=14 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:01:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=48 S=0x10 I=15 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:01:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=40 S=0x10 I=16 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:01:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=62 S=0x10 I=17 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:01:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1024
192.168.0.1:21 L=51 S=0x10 I=18 F=0x0040 T=64
Jan 3 15:01:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in acc eth1 TCP 192.168.0.3:1025
192.168.0.1:20 L=44 S=0x00 I=19 F=0x0000 T=64
:
:
Feb 11 16:03:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=256 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=512 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=768 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:07 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1024 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:07 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1280 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:07 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1536 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:08 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1792 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:08 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=2816 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:08 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3072 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:08 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3328 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:21 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3840 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:21 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4096 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:22 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4352 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:03:23 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.2:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4608 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:04 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=256 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:04 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=512 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:04 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=768 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:05 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1024 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:05 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1280 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:05 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=1536 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:05 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=2048 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:05 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=2304 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:05 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=2560 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=2816 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3072 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3328 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3584 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:06 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=3840 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:07 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4096 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:07 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4352 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:08 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4608 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:08 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=4864 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:09 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:137
192.168.0.255:137 L=96 S=0x00 I=5376 F=0x0000 T=128
Feb 11 16:06:10 becca kernel: IP fw-in deny eth0 UDP 192.168.0.3:138
192.168.0.255:138 L=245 S=0x00 I=5888 F=0x0000 T=128
etc., etc., etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: help with xcopy
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:15:05 GMT
Greetings,
Can anyone offer some help on the xcopy command used with mtools. I have a
RedHat 5.2 distribution, when I try to use the xcopy command I get an error
"xcopy: command not found"
I know this question is kind of basic, I am on my first installation of a
Linux system and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Best Regards,
Freddy Vega
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:57:43 GMT
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:57:22 +0000, Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, David Taylor wrote:
>> I agree. If someone put time into developing a linux distribution
>> designed for OEMs to tune to specific hardware setups, and then was
>> preinstalled on a computer, it would be just the same as windows. Sure
>> you would have to tweak things to get them perfect, just like in windows
>
>Alerady been done. Red Hat Linux has a feature called kickstart wherein
>you create a `standard' configuration to a kickstart file on a disk. You
>use this file for the installation and the system get's built exactly to
>your standard specification
>
>See the KickStart-HOWTO with RH systems for more details.
Have they built the "reverse-engineering" bit in so that you can take a
working system, and extract a kickstart spec?
The *nice* way of making KickStart useful is if you can go and install,
tune (somewhat) to get things working, thus generating a "golden
system," and then reverse that process so as to build the spec file.
The way to make this *really* slick is to have a process that goes in
and checks *all* files on the system against the RPM database so as to
establish what files have been modified by hand, and then build a
"localization RPM spec" out of that.
Thus, you get:
a) A list of the installed RPMs. This is pretty easy to come up with:
# rpm -q -a > /tmp/rpmlist
b) To figure out what changed...
# foreach i (`cat /tmp/rpmlist`)
> rpm -i $RPMPATH/$i*.rpm
> end
... and I'm missing a parameter here; we need to force a reinstall ...
# cd /; find | grep rpmsave > /tmp/changedfiles
... this determines which RPM-created files you messed with, which
tells you how to build a spec file ...
c) Find other files that you set up yourself...
# rpm -q -a -l | sort > /tmp/allrpmedfiles
# cd /; find . -print > /tmp/allfiles
[and now comes the moderately gory step of figuring out which files
*you* set up that are not automatically generated...]
d) Build a spec file using the files from b) and c) for an RPM file
You'll create something like:
mysiteslocalization-1.0-noarch.rpm
This file would be installed (using the --force option) after all the
other "normal" RPMs get installed.
Automating b), c), and d) would be a Very Cool Idea.
--
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just the UI, design disagreements. Requests from Unix programmers to
replicate Free Agent rightfully so should trigger the throwing of sharp
heavy objects at the requesting party." -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Larry Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 01:14:29 GMT
I most heartedly disagree. An import "failure" simply includes the raw LaTeX. If LyX
understands your raw LaTeX, and it does a very good job with this, then
some of your LaTeX is put into the background -- e.g. in the paragraph format
menu.
Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4 Feb 1999, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> >>Grab hold of LyX 1.0 which is now available and is *very* nice.
>>
>> The last time I looked at it, it wasn't capable of importing latex files,
>> which makes it a bit 'all or nothing'. You can export latex out of it,
>> though.
> LyX 1.0 can import *some* LaTeX files but not very complicated ones.
> Jason Clifford
> Definite Linux Systems
> http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Philip Denny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP connect but no ping!
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:03:19 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My modem is, so far as I know, connecting. All the right sounds and all
the right lights. /var/log/message has a perfect dial up and connect.
Nothing else though. I can only ping localhost nothing else.
ifconfig -a gives me local host (lo) stuff and then ppp0 info which is
inet addr 0.0.0.0 with PtP and mask the same. I have configured all the
correct nameservers, netmasks, the gateway and my IP address in
/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1. Is that only for ethernet config? I also have this
in resolv.conf
search demon.co.uk
nameserver 158.152.1.58
nameserver 158.152.1.43
I am connected and can't even ping the gateway or nameservers. This has
to be simple (or I am, but you don't need to agree).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:29:30 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:38:03 GMT...
..and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last year at Comdex, Ellison revealed plans for a database server composed of
> a minimized operating system tightly integrated with Oracle's database
> software. The architecture, then code-named Raw Iron, is now known as the
> Oracle Database Appliances. Oracle subsequently chose a scaled-down version
> of the Solaris operating system from Sun Microsystems.
Huh? Database *appliance*?
Does that mean, some kind of Oracle Fridge(TM)?
A HyperQube?
Damn. This world gets cooler and cooler everyday. Databases as
appliances.
"Gee, Jack, the old box is thrashing under the load for two months
now, could you bring another one when you're back from lunch break?"
mawa
--
The utility of a fancy Web browser is damn near zero compared with the
utility of a really good text editor.
-- mawa
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From: Kelly and Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Europarlement wishes to ban Proxy servers
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:23:31 +0000
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In a comp.os.linux.misc newsletter entitled "Europarlement wishes to ban
Proxy servers", Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>Oh well, I'd better stop here. This is a technical forum, not a place
>for discussing politics.
When people are forced by circumstance to talk urgently and
courageously, and not care about self-inhibiting "coolness", the
implicit stagnation of Europe will already long be acknowledged to be
irrelevant.
But for now, we should continue to cross our legs and chew our gum.
With Kind Regards,
Sandy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:55:09 GMT
On 19 Jan 1999 18:14:52 -0500, Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <ME7p2.948$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>StressedOut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have been reading about UNIX and Linux recently and have set up a practice
>>RHL machine. I see many suggestions that I should obtain Linux (or another
>>variant) because it's free, it's easy, etc., etc., etc. I just came across
>>another article saying, "Linux is great because its free and it uses similar
>>command and directory structures as other flavors ...". Similar to what,
>>exactly?
> To other members of family. Probably about a hundred of them.
>>I am wondering what the heck "UNIX" is. I mean _real_, unadulterated,
>>up-to-date, commercial grade, UNIX - THE Operating System.
> There is no THE. The last common ancestor is v7 (and that doesn't
>count stepchildren a-la Linux). As for most, erm, successful commercial
>ones now - well, Solaris, HP/UX, SGI, DG/UX, SCO. Plus there are other free
>Unices ({Free,Open,Net}BSD). Plus there is a monster called AIX (IBM ;-<).
>Plus many, many other.
If you want *official,* then consult
<http://www.UNIX-systems.org/questions_answers/faq.html>, the FAQ about
the proper use of the UNIX Trademark.
There are several "generations" in the UNIX "family."
On the one hand, Linux fails to be a UNIX based on branding and
trademarks, as well as based on certain components of recent official
standards (STREAMS being one of the major issues).
On the other hand, if you look back into history, Linux is more like
"real UNIXes" than many officially branded UNIXes that have existed.
>>Is there any advantage to using UNIX vs Linux?
> WHICH UNIX? Linux is one of them. Name your tasks, name the kind
>of UNIX you are going to use - then we may be able to compare.
Distinguishing between Linux and "true UNIX" has a tendancy to provide
an arbitrary/artificial barrier. Linux provides virtually all of the
same sorts of features (STREAMS, a controversial recent addition, being
the most notable exception), and is capable to do most of the same
things.
>>How much is it on average, and how and where might one "get" it?
>>
>>What machines will it run on?
>
> Probably anything not too braindead.
An "official" UNIX, based on the UNIX95 standard, limits you to a fairly
restrictive group. Digital UNIX is one; AIX is another; OS/390, with
the UNIX subsystem, is, hard though it may to believe, another. SCO is
likely one; UnixWare is surely one.
There are some of the "commercial guys" that basically are UNIXes, but
that, like Linux, are not officially branded as such. I don't think
that Solaris is a branded UNIX, which is very interesting if so.
>>Can I get an x86 version?
> Of what? For *BSD - visit their webpages (www.freebsd.org, etc.)
>For SCO and x86 Solaris - SCO and Sun. Look in news.answers for UNIX FAQ
>- it should contain what you need.
If someone wants to be a purist, I think that UNIXWare may well be the
only IA-32 "true UNIX." (With SCO and x86 Solaris as "possibles.")
The BSD folk like to claim direct family lineage, and that Linux lacks
this; they are nonetheless not branded as UNIX.
And the critical issue that would forcibly mandate a particular
selection would be something like:
"We want to run application Foo. Is it supported on [Pick Your Favorite
UNIX-like System]?"
To which the answer will either be "Yes," or "No." Whether the system is
a "pure/true" UNIX system or not will not determine the answer.
--
"In elementary school, in case of fire you have to line up quietly in a
single file line from smallest to tallest. What is the logic? Do tall
people burn slower?" -- Warren Hutcherson
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From: Larry Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 01:10:16 GMT
It is now possible to import latex using a built-in engine called "reLyX",
which is quite boisterous.
Richard Robinson <richard> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Charlie Stross <charlie @ nospam . antipope . org> wrote:
>>Stoned koala bears drooled eucalyptus spittle in awe
>>as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declared:
>>
>>>Grab hold of LyX 1.0 which is now available and is *very* nice.
>>
>>Alternatively, I'd be astonishied if KLyX doesn't hit 1.0 real soon now ;-)
> The last time I looked at it, it wasn't capable of importing latex files,
> which makes it a bit 'all or nothing'. You can export latex out of it,
> though.
> --
> Richard Robinson
> "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
> I don't want to receive UCE :- remove 'x' to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: info.inet.access,fa.netbsd.current.users,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: MySQL: Resolveip problem
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:04:43 GMT
I am trying to install MySQL on RedHat 4.2 system but encounter the following
problem when I tried to run mysql_install_db with following error,
> Sorry, the host 'test.domain.com' could not be looked up.
> Please configure the 'hostname' command to return a correct hostname.
Everything seems to be in order in hosts, network etc files, and I can look up
correctly using the hostname command.
Any idea what went wrong?
If possible, please reply via email.
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From: jongarmpark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel too big?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 01:48:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, i just got my hands on 2.2.1 and tried compiling it, it compiled ok but
> it was huge! I really didn't think i had selected that much but anyway i
> tried using zlilo and lilo apparently agrrees with me in that it is really
> big, but lilo doesn't seem to use it... i try using it anyway and my box
> boots up ok but it boots up with all the things that were in the old kernel!
> and nothing from what was in the new kernel! the kicker is that i moved my
> old kernel and it seems to still be using it... i am quite confused. i have
> tried compiling it with *everything* i could as mods but it is still > 1megs!
> i have used bzImage but that doest seem to be of much help. any help would
> be greatly appricated here!
Well, I alos had same problem with the 2.2.1.
So, I solved the problem by keep really necessary component in the
kernel, and make others as modules.
And.. the 2.2.1 kernel is still big.
I found undocumented "make".
make bzlilo, make bzdisk, etc.
Try them. Or you should boot from your HDD. ( I boot from a floppy. )
Hope it helps.
--
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JongAm Park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Vision Lab.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE RPMs for Red Hat 5.2 ???
Date: 10 Feb 1999 19:39:12 GMT
Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How come Red Hat 5.2 doesn't ship with KDE? Didn't Red Hat 5.1 include
> KDE after all? Is it because they included Window Maker instead?
My understanding (I can't remember where I read this) is that while
KDE *is* GPled, the supporting toolkit library (QT from Troll Tech)
is not. While the QT license allows free distribution it requires that
you provide the source of *your* application in addition to the QT
source. If you don't provide source you have to pay the Troll folk
a license fee.
There must be some component of the boxed set that RH sells that they
won't provide source for (I *don't* know what that component is), so
they don't bundle KDE because KDE uses QT.
Simeon
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