Linux-Misc Digest #990, Volume #19 Thu, 29 Apr 99 21:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help choosing distribution (jedi)
Is there an ICQ version for linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (Steve Lamb)
Documented diffs between SCO Unix 3.2.4.2 & Linux 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: kernel hang on 2.0.36. (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Strange Routing Problem (Brian McCauley)
Re: Is there an ICQ version for linux? (Alex Lam)
Re: mgetty (M. Buchenrieder)
Fractals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? ("Walter L. Williams")
Re: Extract from Tar (Bob Martin)
[Q] Which distros are likely to meet my needs? (Jerome Mrozak)
Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I proceed
(Bill Simpson)
Re: pcmcia setup for kernel 2.2.6? (Mohd H Misnan)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 ("Andy Piper")
probs mounting msdos partition rw as normal user (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Re: VFAT FileSystem corrupted by CIH!!! Help ( Expert Only ) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:49:47 -0700
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:30:46 +1000, Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You may be able to help me... how do I alter the /etc/rc file to stop RH
>Linux loading amd at boot-time?
As root.
Run setup.
Under System Services, unclick the amd option.
>
>Chris S.
>
>Des Herriott wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:07:25 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Well, why install all the extra crap if you don't want to use it?
>> > Besides, both RedHat and Debian use that idiotic SysV style (or
>> > whatever) rc setup with those insideous start/stop scripts which are 10
>> > times slower then simple runlevel files like Slackware has.
>>
>> Oh, please.
>>
>> The SysV method is better. Period. One script per service is just so
>> much saner than lumping everything in one file. It makes adding
>> services easy, and it makes removing services easy. It makes
>> programmatic management of services easy and scriptable, and it makes
>> interactive services management easy. Take a look at chkconfig,
>> tksysv, kdesysv, for example, and tell me I'm wrong.
>>
>> 10 times slower? When you can supply some empirical data to support
>> that, I'll agree that your claim is not just pure hyperbole.
>>
>> Insidious? Explain what you mean by that, or is that just empty
>> rhetoric, as I strongly suspect?
>>
>> BSD got a lot of things right (printing services, for example), but
>> init scripts was very definitely not one of them.
>>
>> --
>> Des Herriott, Oracle Corporation UK Ltd.
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - speaking for myself, not my employer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Is there an ICQ version for linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:08:45 GMT
Is there an ICQ out there for linux? If so, where? I have Redhat 5.2 and I've
never downloaded anything off the net from linux OS. I don't know what to do
under linux as far as downloading is concerned and once downloaded, then
what? Downloading I hear is little different under linux, it's important I
learn this very basic, simple task. Under windoze I have a download folder
created and download everything into the folder and double click it and there
it goes. Thanks in advance Allan...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 29 Apr 1999 19:07:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 29 Apr 1999 04:23:55 GMT, Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Lynx and slrn are using slang while mutt and dselect use ncurses.
Uhm.. Mutt uses SLang..
Depends: libc6, slang1 (<< 1.3), slang1 (>> 1.2.2-0), mail-transport-agent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Documented diffs between SCO Unix 3.2.4.2 & Linux 5.2
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:09:55 GMT
We are in the process of analyzing everything that needs to change to port our
current software from SCO Unix v3.2.4.2 (ancient) to Red Hat 5.2 (hip). I was
really hoping we would find something that would list the differences between
commands in our version of Unix and Linux to make our lives easier in knowing
what programs, scripts, etc. we need to change. For example, the straight "l"
command has different output in Linux vs. Unix. If anyone has information, or
can point to a place that has this kind of information, it would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel hang on 2.0.36.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:32:54 -0400
Pat Masterson wrote:
>
> I have a debian 2.0.34 kernel system working quite well. I
> recently compiled a 2.0.36 kernel. It boots most of the way
> up, but hangs. The last message on the screen is
> "starting sendmail".
> Sendmail starts OK on the old kernel, so the config and executible
> files are OK. Why might it be hanging here? What steps could
> I take to discover the real problem? Thanks. -pat
I doubt that your upgrade to the 2.0.36 kernel has anything to do with
sendmail hanging. More likely is that something has been altered in your
DNS setup. The first thing sendmail does is check it's MX record at the
DNS. If the DNS can't be contacted, or doesn't have an MX record (thing
/etc/hosts), sendmail will wait for a while (TCP timeout) then proceed
on.
Either wait a bit when you see the "starting sendmail" message (a couple
of minutes should do it), or change your startup scripts so as to start
sendmail in the background, where it won't delay the startup script.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Strange Routing Problem
Date: 16 Apr 1999 18:33:50 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> However, I am unable to go from the firewall to an internal machine. All of
> the traffic goes through the default route and out to the cable modem.
> Despite what the routing table says:
How are you determining this? You are not using traceroute are you?
Traceroute does *not* honour the local routing table.
IMNSO this is a but in traceroute - everytime I say this someone posts
saying "this is not a bug you just need to use the -i switch". To
which I reply "the existance of a work-round does not prevent
something being a bug".
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there an ICQ version for linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:03:48 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there an ICQ out there for linux? If so, where? I have Redhat 5.2 and I've
> never downloaded anything off the net from linux OS. I don't know what to do
> under linux as far as downloading is concerned and once downloaded, then
> what? Downloading I hear is little different under linux, it's important I
> learn this very basic, simple task. Under windoze I have a download folder
> created and download everything into the folder and double click it and there
> it goes. Thanks in advance Allan...
>
Try http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/
Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: mgetty
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:43:50 GMT
Paradise Lines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hi,
> we are having difficulty setting up the mgetty command in
>/etc/inittab under SuSE Linux 6 (kernel 2.2.5).
>syntax:
>S0:2:respawn:/usr/sbin/mgetty -p @ -n 2 -D ttyS0
>When run from /etc/inittab , mgetty will not pick up the modem and
>answer any calls.
[...]
Run it with -x 9 and look at the resulting logfile.
What kind of modem are you using ?
Michael
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From: "Walter L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fractals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:17:04 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
Here is a good question for everyone out there. Is there a package out
there on Linux
that will do Mandelbrot and/or Julia set fractals. I'm very fascinated
with this.
Thanks
Walt
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:23:36 -0500
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Extract from Tar
if you file is not compressed ( .tar ) do not use the z option. What you
have should otherwise work.
Stephane POMATTO wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> How can I extract a complete directory (in recursive mode) from a Tar
> archive ?
>
> I have an archive called usr.tar wihch is a complete archive of my /usr.
> I want to extract /X11R6 only from this archive
>
> I typed tar xvzf /root/backup/usr.tar X11R6 but it didn't work
>
> Any idea ?
>
> Thanks.
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] Which distros are likely to meet my needs?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:21:16 -0500
I'm trying to move from WinXX (limited experience as *nix user,
practically none in administration), and want to use the box for writing
documents, Java programming and learning Linix admin skills. Note that
I won't be writing native Linux apps on it, although I might need to
recompile the kernel.
I'd like to get a distro that will install into my notebook reasonably
easily with both KDE and GNOME. I'll handle getting Java running on the
box through (known) JDK/JVM sources.
The notebook is a P5/166 (HP Omnibook 800CT) with a NeoMagic video
system, and a 1G partition for Linux. I've 80MB RAM.
The distro advice I'm looking for would answer these questions:
* I plan on installing from external SCSI CDROM (RH 5.1 autodetects it
with its install program, can't remember its adapter right now,
though). I'll upgrade through CDROM or packages copied in through DOS
partitions or ZIP drive (probably not online with that 56KB PCMCIA
modem).
* I'd like a file layout that is "vanilla", because I'll rely on HOWTOs
to learn my way around.
* I'll wait for a 2.2+ kernel version of the desired distros. I
understand improved ZIP disk support is provided in that release
(compared to 2.0 release).
* I need to get a system going more-or-less out of the box, and learn
administration by tweaking. I don't have time/interest/patience for
learning admin. by building a system from scratch, having it
half-working most of the time, because I still don't have a good idea
what constitutes "working" for the broken parts. For example, I've
struggled with RH 5.1 release in trying to configure X files (not
_those_ X-files!) to correspond to my laptop display, getting mostly X
that won't start. For example, SuSE's SaX looks promising for that sort
of configuring.
I'll probably pay for the fancy manual in my next distrib, going with
something like 'Cheapbytes' for updates/upgrades.
Based on these characteristics, which distros are likely to provide
satisfactory answers to my described needs.
I hope this isn't percieved as a "what Linux is best?", but rather an
attempt to define "which Linux should _I_ try now?".
Thanks,
Jerome.
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:40 +0000
From: Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I
proceed
Hi Michael,
>
> Don't munge your address. You are violating Usenet standards. It's
> really ridiculous if you're using linux, since you can set up a 99%
> effective spam filter in about 15 minutes.
How do you do this? (Set up a spam filter)
Thanks for any help!!!
> http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful
This link does say how to do it, just says "munging is harmful".
Bill Simpson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: pcmcia setup for kernel 2.2.6?
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:16:58 GMT
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:47:46 +0000, Peter C.T. Lee wrote:
>HI,
>
>I was trying to upgrade my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.6. Everything
>seems fine except pcmcia. I downloaded the latest pcmcia-cs.3.0.9,
>which is the version i am supposed to use according to the document in
>kernel 2.2.6 Documentation/Changes.(actually the document says 3.0.7,
>but the address i have only have 3.0.8, 3.0.9). I put it in
>/usr/src/linux directory, changed to pcmcia-cs.3.0.9 directory, and make
>config, make all. However, i got the error message "cardinfo.c:
>forms.h is not found, no such file or directory" in the process of "make
>all". I checked all the document, and couldn't find any error message
>about this. They all say "make clean, make config, make all, and then
>make install". Sounds like this is not the place people usually have
>problem with..... Could anyone tell me how to solve this problem???
I guess you're running KDE which installed some x11form library into your
system but its not a complete x11form package. I've got this problem everytime I
recompile the pcmcia source. The only solution I did right now is to comment
out the HAS_FORMS line inside ../pcmcia-cs-3.0.9/config.mk. And uhh, it actually
was trying to compiled the X version of cardmgr (I think..).
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From: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:43:51 +0100
Reply-To: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
root wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have excactly the same problem as you !!!
>I have not been able to run or install StarOffice since I installed glibc
2.1
>and kernel 2.2.6...
>Does anybody know just what the hell is going on ????
SO5.0 is compiled against glibc 2.0 - it won't work with 2.1. A good reason
that I'm not upgrading just yet!
Andy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Subject: probs mounting msdos partition rw as normal user
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:44:27 +0200
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I mount the dos-partition at boottime via fstab with
/dev/hda2 /dosC msdos user 0 0.
If I login as non-root-user I get only read-rights. What is
maybe wrong with my fstab-entry?
thanks Ulli
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I mount the dos-partition at boottime via fstab with
<br>/dev/hda2
/dosC
msdos user
0 0.
<br>If I login as non-root-user I get only read-rights. What is
<br>maybe wrong with my fstab-entry?
<br>thanks Ulli
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: VFAT FileSystem corrupted by CIH!!! Help ( Expert Only )
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:47:44 GMT
Goodday,
It seem sad because still not solutions but all nonsense, and all those
important data is not important for me but my friend. I am Linux User as well
and trying using my knowledge to help whoever I can help because I know their
feel just like I lost my important data, when it come to recovering times,
that is no point to ask the end users that why they didn't backup the data.
The purpose I post it on this few newsgroup is because I know most of the
experts who better than me should can found in Linux or Unix fields and I
don't want post the groups which only end users reply me those nonsense.
Anyway, Thanks for your advise.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > My company PC with M$ OS was infected by CIH virus on 26th, I still trying
> > to recover all those harddisk which lossing partition.
>
> First, you have to expect this when running Windoze.
>
> >
> > I successfully recover a harddisk which 3 partitions with using fdisk (
> > linux ) & ndd ( norton ) and get back the 3 partitions. but problem was
> > happen on the first partition which have been recovered, I can see the
> > directories and files inside this partition, and I try to copy all this
> > files to other partition or floppy, I will get the all the files with
> > 32,768k in size ( all the files with less than 32,768k was fine ), I did
try
> > using linux to copy ( cp ), the error " input/output error " appear.
> >
> > Firstly, I recover partition 2 & 3 with ndd or ndd /rebuild, and that time
I
> > couldn't get the first partition until I using linux fdisk to force
created
> > and new "dos >=32M" partition then I managed to recover it by using ndd to
> > corrected the partition, but then the problem I mension above happen.
> >
> > Anybody, know how can it be recover ? because it really important for us.
>
> Second, if you got to the point where ndd does not help anymore, you probably
> have to inspect each file with the disk editor and determine which files
belong
> together. You get the 32k file size because that is the cluster size on your
FAT
> partition.
>
> Third, if your data is really important, you should probably contact one of
the
> data recovery houses. They are very expensive, but sometimes the data is
worth
> it. Your call.
>
> Fourth, if your data is important, you should have made backups.
>
> Fifth, run a virus checker in the background, if you need to run Windoze at
all.
>
> Sixth, this is a Linux news group.
>
> -Joe
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