Linux-Misc Digest #998, Volume #18               Fri, 12 Feb 99 20:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux + NT, moving from floppy boot to harddisk boot (John Forkosh)
  Re: big endian -> little endian converter (Thomas Boggs)
  Re: My modem won't work.  Please help! (Bob Martin)
  Re: Geochron for Linux? (Gerd Roethig)
  [Q]how to swap Ctrl/CapsLock keys (Tae-Yeoub Jang)
  Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (John Thompson)
  Re: "Proper" Linux System Administration Book, suggestion on writing it! (Michael 
Humphries-Dolnick)
  Making Recovery Disks ("Steve D. Perkins")
  Re: ramdisk for linux:  mount /ramdisk (Tom Fawcett)
  Module support for ZIP 100 plus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (Rowan Volvo)
  Re: Top command (Gary Momarison)
  Re: telnet:  Was my system hacked? (Stan)
  Re: Oracle Compile err 8.0.5 Debian Linux - libctl.so needed (Konstantin Kivi)
  Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: Antivirus ("James R. Bunch")
  Re: SCIOCADDRT: Invalid Argument.... HELP (Colin)
  Big HDD Problems in Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (Rowan Volvo)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux + NT, moving from floppy boot to harddisk boot
Date: 12 Feb 1999 17:28:22 -0500

Don't know what you're doing wrong.  But I'm successfully booting
NT or Linux, both from an EIDE, using NT's loader, as described
in the mini howto.  Works just fine, just as described.
     One thing you might try is keeping boot and root on the
same sda partition.  I don't think you have the same 1024
boot limitation on scsi, if that's what you're worried about.
And this way there's no way NT's loader can get confused
(though I guess it can still panic if it decides it wants to:).
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Klaus Bernpaintner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: When I installed Linux I chose to boot floppy. Now however, I would like to
: boot from the hard drive. BUT I am also running NT, so I looked at the NT OS
: Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO at
: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
: because I want to use the NT boot loader because I don't want to mess with the
: NT bootsector.

: My config is the following. I have two hard disks, one IDE and one SCSI. NT is
: on the IDE, and Linux on the SCSI. My Linux drive has a root partition (sda6)
: and a boot partition (sda1).

: When I boot from the floppy, LILO says to press enter to boot from sda6. (Why
: doesn't it boot from sda1 which is my boot partition where /boot resides?)
: Anyway, I config lilo.config so LILO  put the bootsector on sda1 (or sda6,
: I've tried both). Then I run lilo. Then I peel off bootsector from sda1 (or
: sda6) and throw it into C:\bootsect.lnx of my NT filesystem. This is what the
: mini-HOWTO says to do.

: Now, when I choose Linux in the NT boot loader, it starts up fine, goes much
: faster than using floppy. But it stops with a panic, where it tries to mount
: or find root partition. When successfully booting from a floppy, it says at
: one point: "found compressed kernel image at 0" or something similar. When
: trying to boot from the hard drive it stops at that point with something like
: "VMA: could not find root".

: What am I doing wrong here?

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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cern.linux
Subject: Re: big endian -> little endian converter
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:30:35 -0500

John McKown wrote:

> I'd use the "network" conversion routines. "Network byte order" is big
> endian like the HP. See <netinet/in.h>. There are:
> unsigned long int htonl(unsigned long int var)
> unsigned short int htons(unsigned short int var)
> unsigned long int ntohl(unsigned long int var)
> unsigned short int ntohl(unsigned short int var)
>
> So, if a variable is an "long int" on the HP, then use ntohl() to convert it
> for use on an x86. Likewise use ntohs() to convert an HP "short int" to x86.
> Use the htonl() and htons() to convert from x86 back to HP.
>
> Now - I think that IEEE floating point is identical on both platforms - but
> don't quote me on that!
>
> John McKown

Speaking of floating points, does anyone know of any libraries to convert
floating point values between different platforms?  I've gotten some VAX binary
files containing floats in the past and had to do my own byte swapping and bit
fiddling to use the data on an Intel machine.  It would be nice not to have to
go through that process for each platform.

Thomas


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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My modem won't work.  Please help!
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:58:09 -0600

Offhand it sounds like you have one of those winmodems. They are not fully
functional modems and require windows to actually process the data. They will
not work with Linux or other OSs. Check your modem documents and see if it says
its a winmodem or that windows 95 is required for it.

Mark Kreh wrote:

> I have RH5.2.  I followed the instructions that were in the book for setting
> up ppp, but when I try to connect nothing happens.  How can I tell if the
> computer even sees the modem?  (The modem does work with W95)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerd Roethig)
Subject: Re: Geochron for Linux?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:44:04 GMT

Hello,
 
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:04:20 +0000 Marco Tephlant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>David Steuber wrote:
>
>> Steve Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> -> Has anyone seen or heard of a version of geochron for linux?
>> ->
>> -> Geochron is a program that shows a map of the world, with real-time
>> -> display of the areas that are covered by daylight.
>>
>> Something like that is included with the SuSE distribution, but I
>> forget what it is called :-(

The latter one is surely xearth. I guess http://ftpsearch.lycos.com
will find it. But the version I know of doesn't display the time.

Cheers

Gerd

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From: Tae-Yeoub Jang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux.hardware
Subject: [Q]how to swap Ctrl/CapsLock keys
Date: 11 Feb 1999 13:48:57 +0000


Is it possible to swap the function of those two keys on the PC
keyboard.  What I want to do is put the 'Ctrl' key right below 'Tab'
key instead of the original position in the bottom row, just as in the
Sun machine Keyboard.

Thanks

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:25:53 -0600

David Steuber wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Salgo) writes:
> 
> -> Kinda scary, huh?
> 
> Kinda funny.  Microsoft has the right and the resources to create a
> commercial Linux distribution.  They never will though.
> 
> I wonder if anyone would buy it?

I thought when Microsoft sold the rights to their Xenix
operating system they had to agree not to compete directly
in the Unix marketplace?


-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
Subject: Re: "Proper" Linux System Administration Book, suggestion on writing it!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:20:13 GMT

In article <7942so$41c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John  
Forkosh) writes:
> Ron C. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> <gripe>
> : I've yet to find a "fully decent" book on just specifically Linux  
System
> : Administration (NOT for beginners). What mostly annoys me (and makes  
me not
> : buy them) is: Wasting space on GENERAL Unix stuff...
> : Lixux Companion for S. A. by Jochen Hein  ISBN# 0201360446 comes  
close, BUT
> : it fails by being about a third+  basic Unix stuff...
> </gripe>
> 
> <my_gripe>
>   ditto
> </my_gripe>
> 
> Yeah.  I can't understand what audience many of these books think
> they're aimed at.  Do they really think they can start with a
> Windows user and teach them Unix and System Administration and
> Linux installation in such a way so that they end up productive
> Linux users???  I don't think so ... not by reading a single book
> while having no prior Unix (and probably no prior non-Windows
> and no programming) experience.  
[SNIP]

You just hit the nail on the head of one of my gripes.  

In the Novell / NT / WinTel arena, being a "System Administrator" does not  
automatically imply any knowlege of programming; indeed, back in my WinTel  
days when I used to interview for SysAdmin jobs that required programming  
knowlege (even light), my response was "I'm a SysAdmin, not a programmer."  

A rather naive view, albeit one that has changed for me after coming into  
the Linux fold.  Programming knowlege is, I believe, a prerequesite for  
being a Damn Good SysAdmin.  It makes the difference between a Passible  
SysAdmin and a Damn Good one.  

AWK/SED and Perl should be covered in any good SysAdmin course.  I've  
never had a (paying) Unix administration job that didn't require some of  
it.  C is a definate plus.  Most "administrators" books don't cover  
them... they take the WinTel attitude that "SysAdmins don't program."  Not  
true, in my experience.


-- 
Michael Humphries-Dolnick
"If opinions are expressed in this communication,
 those opinions may not represent those of 
 my employer."

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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making Recovery Disks
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:40:15 +0000

    This might sound like a dumb question, but it's been so many years
since I've needed to do this that I've forgotten... how do you make boot
floppy disks for doing emergency/recovery stuff in RedHat 5.2 if you
didn't create them during the original installation?  Thanks!

Steve




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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ramdisk for linux:  mount /ramdisk
Date: 11 Feb 1999 09:27:44 -0500

Ray Eads <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Here's a feature I would like--anyone else seen something like this:
> 
> I would like to be able to mount a ram disk in the filesystem, 
> somewhat like an Amiga ramdisk.  
> 
> # cat /etc/fstab
> /dev/hda6                /                    ext2    defaults
> /dev/hda1                /boot                ext2    defaults
> 8megs of physical memory   /mnt/ramdisk               ram     defaults
> 
> # mount /mnt/ramdisk
> 
> This would be terribly convenient.  Anyone else wondered about this?

Linux has a ramdisk driver.  You should read about it.
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/ramdisk.txt

Since ram is volatile and doesn't keep a filesystem between boots, I'm not
sure what you expect your "mount /mnt/ramdisk" command to do.

-Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Module support for ZIP 100 plus
Date: 11 Feb 1999 14:35:33 GMT

Hi,
  Firstly, thanks to all those who responded to my original post concerning
compilation of kernel 2.2.0. I now have a working kernel of sorts. I
compliled it with module support for a ZIP 100 plus drive, (external
parallel port). I've got the imm module compiled, but when I do

insmod imm

I get the following message

/lib/modules/2.2.0/scsi/imm.o: init_module: Device or resource busy  

Any suggestions welcome. Incidentely, I did not seem to need any software
updates to ugrade the original 2.0.36 to 2.2.0. Is this the problem ?

Cheers,

vj.

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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rowan Volvo)
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:17:15 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Taylor  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aaron Cody wrote:
>> 
>> is that stupid penguin logo (or whatever the hell it's supposed to be..) ..
>
>Tux kicks ass!  The Windows logo looks like a beer mat.  :)
>

"Penguins are so sensitive to my needs" -- Lyle Lovitt

-- 
Never fly in an airplane that was designed by an optimist

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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top command
Date: 12 Feb 1999 15:51:17 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins) writes:

> Hello,
> 
>       How do I interpret the " Mem "  line while using the
> Top command.
>From the "top" man page:

    Mem  Statistics on memory usage, including total available
            memory, free memory, used memory, shared memory,  and
            memory used for buffers. The display of memory infor-
            mation may be toggled by the m interactive command.

> While running only linux and a single bash shell it looks like this:
> 
> Mem:  31224K av, 23656K used, 7568K free, 3748K shrd, 6200K buff
> 
> What does the 'used' mean?  Why would such a large % of available
> memory be used with little to nothing running?

Whatever you've got running has asked for that much memory, probably
more.  When you first startuped (startup is a verb now, right?), it
didn't look that way (at least before X started).

> 
>       What other techniques are there to monitor memory,
> and how to make memory use most efficient?

Visit http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/memory.html

Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/memory.txt

use these commands: free, "cat /proc/meminfo", xosview

Try this: echo "120 240 1024" >|/proc/sys/vm/freepages

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan)
Subject: Re: telnet:  Was my system hacked?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 23:28:56 GMT

GenaBlu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I've been connecting to my Linux boxes using Windows' telnet for the longest
: time.  Then, a couple of days ago, it stopped working.  Just like that.  I was
: logged on to my Linux box, then closed the connection for a few minutes, then
: tried again and it didn't work.  Here are the symptoms:

1 ) Boot from console.

2) Check thing with: SATAN, COPS or last but not least
                rpm -V $(rpm -qa)
        Check for MD5 sum changes.

3) RH5.1 has serious bug in imapd and any bad person can get root

4) Find out if system decided to go crazy or got hacked.
        If hacked, reinstall hacked rpms and shut down imapd

Bye

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.databases.oracle.misc,linux.debian.users,comp.linux.questions,comp.database.oracle
From: Konstantin Kivi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle Compile err 8.0.5 Debian Linux - libctl.so needed
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:55:58 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Jack Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --------------09BD8881D491E7F4C3A05D5E
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> Installing 8.0.5 on Debain Linux x86 (kernel 2.0.34) 
> Getting the following while building Intelligent Agent...

> Error during action 'Making Oracle Intelligent Agent (target=install)'.

> Command:  make -f ins_oemagent.mk install 

> chmod 755 /opt/oracle/bin
> Building client shared library libclntsh.so 
> Call script /opt/oracle/bin/genclntsh ... 
> /opt/oracle/bin/genclntsh
> Built /opt/oracle/lib/libclntsh.so ... DONE
> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libtcl.so',needed by `dbsnmp'. 
> Stop.

I made a link manualy
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           12 ��� 11 14:22 libtcl.so -> libtcl8.0.so

(I think it must be done by ldconfig)
-- 
Sincerely Yours, Konstantin Kivi, Russia, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    aka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    

    

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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: 11 Feb 1999 14:18:05 GMT



Southam wrote:
> 
> You expect a CEO to learn e-mail on Linux? Right. His time costs about $200
> an hour - too valuable to spend learning a new OS, when Windows is ready and
> able to handle at least this simple chore ( for a while anyway, until it
> chews the FAT table on the disk and explodes like a roman candle) and he
> mostly knows how to use it.

Because the CEO's time is $200+ an hour, he doesn't bother setting
_anything_ up on his system, either Windows or Linux.

I never found setting up email on Windows that easy. I had to find a
script file for my ISP, get TCP/IP settings right, etc, etc before it
would work. A CEO would leave this up to a system administrator.

Same holds for Linux. SA sets it up, CEO just uses it. Using email on
Linux, once setup, can be the same as on Windows if you use something
like Netscape Messenger. No different.

And how much of the CEO's time is wasted because Windows crashes and
gets hosed?

My 2c... :-)

Mark

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From: "James R. Bunch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Antivirus
Date: 11 Feb 1999 14:59:33 GMT

Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: Just keep in mind that a DOS bootsector virus can still infect the MBR
: of a Linux box if an infected diskette is left in the floppy drive and
: the box is powered up with floppy disk booting enabled in the BIOS.

Quite right.  The BSI won't be active in Linux, but will bugger up LILO.
If you boot first into DOS and use loadlin to get Linux going your true
(no dosemu) DOS sessions will be infected but Linux will be OK.  The 
bottom line on BSI's is that they get to the system _before_ the OS loads.

-- 
=============================
James R. Bunch         "A Byte is a terrible thing to waste ... 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     ... a MByte 1048576 times worse"

PGP Key available via finger
PGP Key fingerprint =  B5 31 10 77 BF B0 FD B2  10 54 CB E6 13 7C 26 58
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:33:56 -0500
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCIOCADDRT: Invalid Argument.... HELP

Nobody wrote:

> I am setting up a Redhat 5.2 linux box as a web/ftp server. I am using an
> SMC EtherEZ ISA card.  I have used this card on dozens of Linux Installs
> with no problems at all.  In fact I installed linux  on this machine using
> this card via FTP.  I have never seen the error message SCIOCADDRT: Invalid
> Argument before... any help would be appriciated.
>
> Things that changed since the card last worked:
> The card was originaly setup to using DHCP, It now uses a static IP.
>
> Linux was installed while the machine was on another network than the one on
> which it currently resides.

I get this after I installed the 2.2.1 Linux kernel.  I would also like to know
what this means.

--
Reply to "cwv [at] idirect (dot) com"




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Big HDD Problems in Linux?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:28:20 GMT

Hi all,

If I wanted to install Linux on a big HDD > 2.1GB, would there be a problem
doing so? Is there any >1024 cylinders problems to worry about?

BOB

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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rowan Volvo)
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:26:25 GMT

In article <lDqw2.312$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
William Wueppelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  A general-purpose computer with a powerful operating system just
>isn't necessary for people who use a computer as an appliance and for only a
>few limited tasks.  A stable system and software that doesn't need to be
>upgraded every year just to be able to keep doing the same things, howerver,
>would be a tremendous advantage.
>
>

knowing that, ya have to wonder why the average office would even want to
leave DOS 5.  (the only version with task switching).
On a P2 it would be QUICK.
--
>William
>It is pitch black.  You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
>


-- 
Never fly in an airplane that was designed by an optimist

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