Linux-Misc Digest #998, Volume #27 Fri, 1 Jun 01 02:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Request for research ("Sam")
remotely changing OS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DVD: FreeBSD or Linux? (Faux Pas III)
Re: Linux - ok, which one? ("bowman")
Re: The problem of a pager ("bowman")
Re: Apache question (hoffmyster)
Re: 2GB File size limitation (David Schwartz)
Re: Bummed by debian apt-get (John Hasler)
Re: Limit the user session time (joshua)
Re: palm m505 & USB & Linux (Michael Perry)
Re: SO5.2 file error (Michael Perry)
Re: SO5.2 file error (Dave Uhring)
Re: Help! Hardware or software error? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: how to connect to internet in non-X (Dave Uhring)
Re: remotely changing OS (Vilmos Soti)
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From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98,alt.windows-me
Subject: Re: Request for research
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:15:20 -0500
ditto
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"Carey Holzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f6t5e$2d98o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I'd do it.
Carey
"John the research guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I am working on a study of technical newsgroups. I am interested in
> creating a questionnaire that would be available online and would
> attempt to assess your confidence level in solutions to problems that
> you've posted as well as overall newsgroup usability and overall
> newsgroup satisfaction.
> Initially, I am attempting to find out how well received a link to an
> online registration site to participate in an online survey would be
> received by newsgroup users. The participant would remain anonymous
> and would NOT be added to any marketing lists of any sort. The
> participant would simply be asked to opt-in to receive ONE email
> invitation to the online questionnaire. The participant would not
> receive any future correspondence!!
> I am very interested in conducting a study of this type but may not
> continue if the idea is not welcomed by the newsgroups.
> Please let me know if you are for or against this research effort.
> I apologize if you feel I have wasted your time.
> Thanks,
> John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: remotely changing OS
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:55:34 GMT
Two questions:
- Is this do-able, or is it suicidal?
-Where can I begin researching this?
Thanks.
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Dave
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From: Faux Pas III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: DVD: FreeBSD or Linux?
Date: 1 Jun 2001 02:25:44 GMT
In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will be installing either FreeBSD or Debian Linux on a computer that will
> later be equipped with a DVD drive. I want to watch DVD movies on it (sue
> me). I know for a lot of things people can't recommend one over the other,
> but for DVD-viewing, is Debian Stable better than FreeBSD?
I expect you'll find it to be a moot point. All that DVD requires is a
scsi cd-rom driver that supports DVD, which both have, udf filesystem
support, which I'm fairly certain FreeBSD has as well as Linux, and a
bunch of userspace stuff on top of that which will be the same code
regardless. The real improvements in dvd playing that have been made
recently have been in X, specifically the improved support for hardware
overlay scaling.
When you get set up, check out mplayer,
http://mplayer.sourceforge.net/homepage/
You'll be glad you did.
Cheers !
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Josh Litherland ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of Mtn Dew that thoughts acquire speed.
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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux - ok, which one?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:19:10 -0600
"luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:gszR6.79$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here's what I am going to use it for, for starters anyway:
> Webserver (Apache - might want to add Tomcat too, not sure; maybe PHP;
> anyway, redhat has Apache..)
you can run Apache on any distro, including Windows. Or Xitami, or several
others
> - attached to a database - mysql? pgsql? not sure..
again MySQL, PostGreSQL, Db2 and so forth run on just about anything.
> FTP server (I guess redhat comes with one, but I can't figure out what it
is
> or what its called)
ftpd, oddly enough. try 'man ftpd' many webservers also do ftp along with
http. you might find an existing server squatting on the default ports.
> Question #1)
> WHICH DISTRIBUTION? There are so many... maybe choice IS a bad thing!
any one. I'm running Mandrake currently (because it was the cheapest
shrink-wrapped box after I
hosed RH5.2 doing a kernel/glibc update). Have also ran RH of various
flavors, Slackware. Debian is the most stable, as they don't try to have the
latest, greatest of everything. Suse if fine.
Most distros have more shit than you need/want, and in most cases you'll
either build or or rpm the updates for those apps you actually use.
> Question #2)
> KDE or GNOME? I want one of them. What's the friggin' difference? Why is
> RedHat Installer asking ME which one to install?
Not much difference. Personally, I think KDE is a little more together,
though I'm running Gnome on my machines at the moment. Or, actually, I'm
running the Gnome desktop on IceWM, and for most purposes really am just
using the IceWM functionality. I'm a programmer -- give me gVim, some xterms
(or gnome-terminals or konsoles), and a working browser and I'm good to go.
> Again, any links providing insight into answering these two questions
would
> be greatly appreciated...
This is Linux, not Windows. Anarchy, not a patriarchal BigBrother. I don't
have any real statistics, but lets say 85.2% of the Linux users spend 64.3 %
of their time dicking around with different WMs, Desktops, Editors, and so
forth, 27,2% of their time repairing failed installations, and the balance
doing anything productive.
Not quite that bad, but it is all personal preference, and really very
little difference at the end of the day. BTW, the HOWTO's, Mini HOWTO's,
docs included in various tarballs, man pages, info, and so forth ARE the
Linux documentation. RH is no better or worse in this regard.
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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The problem of a pager
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:26:14 -0600
"Collin E Borrlewyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b16b613$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Besides this, I think you are thinking of "Grab title bar, drop on pager"
> whereas I am thinking of "Grab pager representation of window, move within
> pager".
fvwm2/AnotherLevel does that nicely. IceWM lets you do a Ctrl-Alt-Shift # to
send it to whichever desktop. Fully configuable, of course, so if you use
the feature a lot, Ctrl-F1 .... CtrlF10 would get the job done.
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From: hoffmyster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.networking.general,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Apache question
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:31:54 -0400
Lamar Thomas wrote:
> I am running RH 7.1 and I have FTP and Apache web servers working.
> However, after rebooting my Linux box no one can connect to my Apache
> web server until I issue the following command: # "service httpd
> restart".
>
> Anyone know how I can make Apache auto start after a reboot? Thanks for
> any and all help.
>
> Lamar
It seems to me that you can just simply put your command there in
/etc/rc.d/rc.local and let that script type it in for you. I find that
just about the easiest way although I have a feeling some RH enthusiast and
gurus find that as being the cheap way of doing it, but it is quick and
dirty AND saves you from having to do it which is what you are trying to
accomplish, right?
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From: David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: 2GB File size limitation
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:39:26 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My advice: just don't. Why do you need big files, anyway?
Well, for one thing, you might want you name server to be authoritative
for 'com'.
DS
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bummed by debian apt-get
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:32:46 GMT
Jerome Mrozak writes:
> I pointed my Stormix install to http.us.debian.org and told it, through
> sources.list, to fetch woody (or testing).
_Exactly_ what commands did you give? _Exactly_ what was the result? I
can't guess what you mean by "told it to fetch woody" (BTW testing was
broken recently).
> I really expected it to install new stuff,...
It doesn't install new stuff unless you tell it to. IMO the man page makes
this clear.
> Someone who can tell me how to get to woody from my current potato-based
> distro.
Put
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
in /etc/apt/sources.list and run (as root)
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
When this completes successfully run (as root)
apt-get install console-apt
And use console-apt to get your Gnome and KDE stuff. You'll like it better
than the command-line interface. You might like gnome-apt even better.
You'll probably want task-gnome-desktop and/or task-kde.
BTW the best place for Debian-specific questions is the debian-user mailing
list. Go to www.debian.org to subscribe.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joshua)
Subject: Re: Limit the user session time
Date: 31 May 2001 20:59:16 -0700
Thanks, Nordi and Sean
Best Regards,
Joshua
Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> nordi wrote:
> <snip>
> > If you want, you can generate a
> > message box before you do that, just read one of the many tutorials on how
> > to do X-programming with Perl or the like, or just write the program in C.
> >
> or use xmessage to generate the message.
>
> Sean
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: palm m505 & USB & Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 05:22:07 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:32:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there
>
> I need help with Redhat 7.1 and my serial palm m100. I went through
> the how-to's and did all that but still now device on /dev/pilot
> found. I've linked tty0 to /dev/pilot bot nothing Please help
>
>
tty0 or ttyS0? So is your serial port (in dos parlance) on com1 or com2?
When you know, symlink /dev/pilot to that ttySx port you want.
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Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: SO5.2 file error
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 05:25:19 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 31 May 2001 20:47:34 -0500, Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
>
>> I got this error:
>>
>> Error loading document /tmp/.myself/mhn3UaqWJ:
>> Object not accessible.
>> The object cannot be accessed
>> due to insufficient user rights.
>>
>> drwxr-x--- 2 myself 315 May 31 16:51 /tmp/.myself
>> -rw------- 1 myself 21504 May 31 16:51 /tmp/.myself/mhn3UaqWJ
>>
>> StarOffice was started thus:
>>
>> soffice.bin /tmp/.myself/mhn3UaqWJ
>>
>> For crying out loud, I just created the file (unattached from
>> email) and want to edit it with SO. Maybe SO should RTFM and let
>> me edit a file I own? ;^% So, then I change the permissions
>> on the file and on the directory containing it to be read, write,
>> and execute for all. I get the same SO error.
>>
>> Seriously though, what gives?
>>
>> Thanks....
>>
>>
>
> You might get better results by executing 'soffice' wrapper script instead
> of the raw 'soffice.bin' binary. That is the usual way of starting
> staroffice.
>
StarOffice does not seem to respect umask whatsoever either. It will create
files in directories I have manually changed to give certain groups
read-write access with non-group read-write access. I consider that the way
StarOffice manages multi-user systems to be basically broken at this time
since it cannot manage unix style permissions across directory structures.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SO5.2 file error
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:44:34 -0500
Michael Perry wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 20:47:34 -0500, Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> I got this error:
>>>
>>> Error loading document /tmp/.myself/mhn3UaqWJ:
>>> Object not accessible.
>>> The object cannot be accessed
>>> due to insufficient user rights.
>>>
>>> drwxr-x--- 2 myself 315 May 31 16:51 /tmp/.myself
>>> -rw------- 1 myself 21504 May 31 16:51 /tmp/.myself/mhn3UaqWJ
>>>
>>> StarOffice was started thus:
>>>
>>> soffice.bin /tmp/.myself/mhn3UaqWJ
>>>
>>> For crying out loud, I just created the file (unattached from
>>> email) and want to edit it with SO. Maybe SO should RTFM and let
>>> me edit a file I own? ;^% So, then I change the permissions
>>> on the file and on the directory containing it to be read, write,
>>> and execute for all. I get the same SO error.
>>>
>>> Seriously though, what gives?
>>>
>>> Thanks....
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You might get better results by executing 'soffice' wrapper script
>> instead
>> of the raw 'soffice.bin' binary. That is the usual way of starting
>> staroffice.
>>
> StarOffice does not seem to respect umask whatsoever either. It will
> create files in directories I have manually changed to give certain groups
> read-write access with non-group read-write access. I consider that the
> way StarOffice manages multi-user systems to be basically broken at this
> time since it cannot manage unix style permissions across directory
> structures.
>
>
Did you install staroffice with the /net option? Do you have an office52
directory in your home directory?
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help! Hardware or software error?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 05:44:38 GMT
"B.Y." wrote:
>
> Can someone tap me with a clue stick and point the way. before I open the
> box and tamper with my hardware I would like to know that this is not a
> software problem.
>
> OS: Linux 2.2.17, Red Hat 6.2 stock with all updates installed.
> Using IPCHAINS to do NAT.
>
> Machine: dual PIII/550 [Katmai], 512MB,
> Microstar MS-6120N <440BX chipset> motherboard
>
> lspci of the PCI bus:
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03)
> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
> 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
> 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
> 00:0e.0 SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c895 (rev 0
> 00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine 10/100] (re
> 00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10)
> 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: 3DLabs GLINT R3 (rev 01)
>
> Other hardware: 18 GB U2W SCSI hard drive [Fujitsu]
> Toshiba 16x SCSI CD-Rom
> Yamaha 16x6x4x CD-RW
>
> Original routing table:
>
> default is eth0
> eth1 to 10.0.0.0 with netmask 255.0.0.0
Bad, bad eth1. You haven't assigned eth1 a host IP address; you've
assigned it the network address.
Given 10.0.0.0, netmask 255.0.0.0, IP 10.0.0.0 names the network,
10.255.255.255 is the broadcast IP address, and 10.0.0.1 through
10.255.255.254 are the host IP addresses.
> eth1 no longer connects; attempt to deactivate and activate it emits this:
> route: netmask doesn't match route address
> Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [<AF>] List kernel routing tables
> route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ... Modify routing table for AF.
>
> route {-h|--help} [<AF>] Detailed usage syntax for specified
> AF.
> route {-V|--version} Display version/author and exit.
>
> -v, --verbose be verbose
> -n, --numeric dont resolve names
> -N, --symbolic resolve hardware names
> -e, --extend display other/more information
> -F, --fib display Forwarding Information Base (default)
> -C, --cache display routing cache instead of FIB
>
> <AF>=Use '-A <af>' or '--<af>' Default: inet
> List of possible address families (which support routing):
> inet (DARPA Internet) inet6 (IPv6) ax25 (AMPR AX.25)
> netrom (AMPR NET/ROM) ipx (Novell IPX) ddp (Appletalk DDP)
>
> output of route
>
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
> 210.58.244.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
> 10.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
> default 1.c210-58-244.e 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to connect to internet in non-X
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:57:13 -0500
NG_lurker wrote:
> hello again,
>
> as root i run Xconfigurator to adjust my monitor and graphics card
> settings. in the pci probe test this is what i get:
>
> PCI entry S3 Inc | Savage 4
> X Server XF86_SVGA
> XFree4 driver No match
>
> i proceed with setup, selected Generic monitor non-interlaced SVGA 1024 X
> 768 (my real monitor is Acer 77e).
> i selected no clockchip setting.
> in select video mode i selected 8 bit 800 x 600 and 16 bit 800 x 600.
> then Xserver probed the settings, ok (i was taken back to the prompt).
> hit Ctrl + Alt + F7 to return to X-window.... nope, no effect. i still
> have display corruption.
> restarted linux but still i get the same.
> now what do i do?
>
> sorry for this dumb question but what is "CD to your installation CD and
> use rpm -Fvh
> X*"? im getting there.....
>
>
XFree4 driver No match
does not make any sense. See http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.3/savage.4.html
and then install XFree86-4.0.3 on your system.
Since there doesn't appear to be available any XFree86-4.0.3 update RPM's
for RH-7.0, you can do the install by downloading the tarballs and install
scripts from www.xfree86.org or one of its mirrors. Get the installation
instructions first, print them out and then follow them carefully to
perform the installation.
Or, better yet, upgrade to RedHat-7.1.
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Subject: Re: remotely changing OS
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 06:09:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> - Is this do-able, or is it suicidal?
It is possible but I wouldn't do it. What happens it the boot sectors get
screwed?
Vilmos
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