Linux-Misc Digest #7, Volume #19                 Sat, 13 Feb 99 08:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: creating a bootable CD
  Please ignore the previous post. The question was posted earlier.
  e mail stats (Ken Plumbly)
  Checksums (cwj1)
  Re: Dual booting.. (Grant Leslie)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Alexander Viro)
  Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often (Jan Houtsma)
  Linux suxxxx ("softalk")
  Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (Alexander Viro)
  Re: glibc math failure on check ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often (Ville Nummela)
  Re: linux + winpopup ("George G")
  3c509/3c509b and SportsterVoice ("Calle")
  KDE doesn't start (kAos)
  vfat with umlaut and SuSE 6.0 (Thomas Kunert)
  Re: How to make it run faster? (Ilya)
  Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1 (Ilya)
  Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often (Jan Houtsma)
  Emacs and Afterstep problem (Ilya)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: creating a bootable CD
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:22:54 +0100

In article <TXFw2.1265$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Lee Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> create a boot floppy (put on kernel using 'dd', make it point to cd using
> 'rdev')
> copy the boot floppy to the directory that is the source tree for my CD
>     dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/hda4/bootfloppy.image
>     (/tmp/hda4 is the top level directory that will become my CD '/' )
> use this parm in the mkisofs command:
>     -b bootfloppy.image
There is one important thing about boot-images, they have to be placed at sector 0 - 
15. There was a time I wrote drivers for CD Recorders, and in that time
most writers were not able to write to sectors below 16. So if you want to
create a bootable CD you must be sure, that your writer can write to the lower
sectors.

-- 
Jaap de Wolff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.de-wolff.demon.nl
  

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From: <@erols.com>
Subject: Please ignore the previous post. The question was posted earlier.
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:02:36 -0500

Ignore the previous post.  Question was posted earlier.




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From: Ken Plumbly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e mail stats
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:58:05 +0000

Does anyione hav/know of a utility scripts, whatever to make up
a set of stats for a mail server, so that I can know the volume
of mail our server is passing??

Thanks

Ken

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| System Administrator For OC Online    |
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From: cwj1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Checksums
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:25:21 GMT

I find checksums with various files on FTP sites, how do I use these files?

Thanks,
cwj1

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From: Grant Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual booting..
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:01:35 -0400

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First I'd make sure both partitions are set active.. not sure if Lilo
would care about this or not...*shrug*

What I did was make a multi configuartion DOS bootup, which presents me
with a choice of Win98, Linux ( with kernel 2.2.1, or with kernel 2.0.36
),Plain DOS, etc... This is using loadlin, since for some reason lilo
wouldn't install on my hd :(.

To do it this way ( there are other ways... ) I edited msdos.sys and
changed BootGUI=1 to BootGUI=0, so I could control the bootup better.
And then made my startup files, which I attached here, if you'd like to
look at them. Obviously you'd have to change them to match your system.


ps. I know my system defaults to Win98 :( But of the 3 people who use
it, Im the only Linux user *sigh*

Stephe wrote:
> 
> Well not sure what I'm doing wrong but maybe someone can explain.
> I have 2 hard drives in my box. Linux is the primary master and
> win 95 is the primary slave. I can get either to boot by changing
> the sequence of bootup in the bios and the windows file system
> (internally) reset itself to "c" the first time it booted as
> secondary so I think this should work out. I have tried to get
> lilo to boot win95 at the boot prompt by adding this to the
> /ect/lilo.config file..
> 
>           other=/dev/hdb1
>           label=win95
>           table=/dev/hdb
> 
> When I type "win95" at the boot: prompt it looks like it's going
> to work and then the eternal cursor... Never hear a peep out of
> the slave drive and obviously it doesn't boot. Any ideas on how
> to get this working so I don't have to switch the bios setting to
> change OS's? I really don't want to use loadlin as then if I want
> to start linux I have to start win 95, restart in dos and then
> start linux.. Another pain.. ANyway hope this is possible.
> 
> --
> 
>         Stephe
> 
> Having fun with Linux!

-- 
"It looks so lovely, and fragile. Imagine how many millions of people
 are living on it, and don't even realize how fragile it is."
  Alan B. Shepard, 1971, said with a tear in his eye, on the
            Apollo 14 mission looking back at earth from the moon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:42:12 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>FreeBSD has gotten pretty easy to use owing to the USENET support and the
>>FreeBSD website.  Maybe it's because I'm using Debian;  I think I'll switch
>
>What about Debian is harder?  It pioneered the idea of the "smart" package
>manager.  That is the single biggest thing missing from FreeBSD, IMHO.

Frankly, Debian misses ports. Now, ports generating .deb would really make
life nice. For binary install dpkg & co win hands down. For building from
source _and_ downloading source when/if needed ports are great and
dpkg-source -x foo.dsc; cd foo; debian/rules build; is clumsy. It's not that
much to add, but we are missing it. For building a single package we have
all needed stuff right now (after all, debian/rules starts from #!/usr/bin/make
and more than slightly intersects with stuff in /usr/shar/mk/). For source
dependencies and auto-downloading the source (a-la dpkg-ftp for binary) we
have nothing. The most serious problem, indeed, being that we don't have real
information on source dependencies and will have to decide on the conents of
base-devel.

>>I would say FreeBSD is much easier to use.  But then again I've been using
>>FreeBSD for a much longer time than Linx;  it's just a matter of opinion and
>>taste.
>
>Just how is FreeBSD easier to use?
        Erm... if one got accustomed to foo he'll be more comfortable with foo.

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:06:04 +0100
From: Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often

Of course i meant 4.08 :-)


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From: "softalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:34:07 -0000

Let me tell you I give up. After 3 solid weeks trying to set up a linux
system I finally submit to the fact that  me and Linux do not get on. I have
been installing novell & Win networks as a job for 9 years but wow what a
shock I got from Linux. It's like trying to learn to program in C with no
manual or source code to compare. Even a simple job like installing a new
program is sometimes impossible. So goodbye Linux and goodbye smug Linux
users.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: 10 Feb 1999 08:54:27 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Riha  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry) writes:
>
>> On 09 Feb 1999 22:38:41 -0500, David Steuber wrote:
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Salgo) writes:
>> >
>> >-> Kinda scary, huh?
>> >
>> >Kinda funny.  Microsoft has the right and the resources to create a
>> >commercial Linux distribution.  They never will though.
>> >
>> >I wonder if anyone would buy it?
>> 
>> Would kinda be neat to have as a war trophy. :-)
>> 
>yea, but there would never be a version 1.0, it would start at 6.0, or 
>6.2 or something.  Probably one higher than the latest RH release.

Heh... They will (a) call the sucker MSL2.0, aka RH 6.0. (b) claim that
RH5.x == MSL 1.x. (c) add streams. (d) turn it into Missed'em'Five.
(e) produce several incredibly sucking releases. (f) Bump the version
from MSL 2.6 to MSL 7. (g) make it so bloated that EMACS running under
KDE will look lean and mean. No points for STR - too obvious.
                                                        Al,
                                                still missing SunOS 4.x

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc math failure on check
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:57:27 -0600

glibc-2.1 is now out.  Get that instead.  glibc-2.0.112 is simply a very
recent pre-release of glibc-2.1.  However, be warned, many things will not
compile without patches under glibc-2.1.

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <79rg90$87$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>(I don't know if this is the correct place to post this. Please advise me
if I
>am wrong).
>
>I am trying to build gclibc-2.0.112 on Linux 2.2.1 using egcs 1.1.1.
>
>Everything compiles fine. When I run a check, I am getting a failure in the
>floating point math checks (and double math check.
>
>The test-float.out file contains,
>
>testing float (without inline functions)
>Fail: fdim (9, 0) = 9
>Fail: fdim (0, -9) = 9
>Fail: fdim (+inf, 9) = +inf
>Fail: fdim (+inf, -9) = +inf
>Fail: fdim (+9, -inf) = +inf
>Fail: fdim (-9, -inf) = +inf
>
>Test suite completed:
>  2165 test cases plus 2153 tests for exception flags executed.
>  6 errors occured.
>
>I used i586-pc-linux-gnu as the host (I am running on a P166).
>
>Any ideas??
>
>Regards,
>Ian Collins.
>
>
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From: Ville Nummela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:55:27 +0200

On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Jan Houtsma wrote:

> I am running Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2.

4.08, you mean :-)

> For some reason when i try to view some web-pages, netscape completely
> hangs.
> Even the stop buttons dont work anymore and i can not close the program,
> only
> by killing the process!!
> I have the feeling it has something to do with Java stuff that is
> loading when i enter
> some webpages.
> Anyone else recognizes this problem and hopefully someone knows a
> solution
> because its very annoying!

Here's the solution for you: Go to netscape's www-site, there is a page
which tells you with which shared libraries was netscape compiled.
Upgrading to the same versions helps a lot with these hangs (I can't
remember when was the last time my netscape hung :-)


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 | ViGe / gasp inc. | http://www.lut.fi/~vnummela | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: "George G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: linux + winpopup
Date: 13 Feb 1999 12:05:47 GMT

It should be a simple matter of writing a script, incorporating the Samba
suite's smbclient -M <host> command.

And yes, it goes both ways.

George G

Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Marko Brandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > i'm looking for a tool or script which allows me to let my linux-box
> > open a popup window on winNT if something special happens on my linux
> > box (e.g. mail arrives or a fax could not be sent). The linux-server
and
> > the NT-clients are connected over a LAN using the samba-suite, it would
> > be very grateful if someone could say me where to get such a program
> > from or even where to find documentation with this topic.
> 
> Might that be "LinPopUp"?  I'm not sure which direction it goes, or both.
> 
> Find in http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/microsoft.html
> 
> -- 
> Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
> Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
> 
> 

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From: "Calle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: 3c509/3c509b and SportsterVoice
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:05:33 +0100

Hello!
I wonder does anyone have a checklist for the configuration steps needed
to be taken to get lan card and modem working?
I'm running RedHat 5.2 on a Compaq EP 6333, 3COM 3c509 lan adapter
and USR SportsterVoice 33.6 external modem.
I have tried configuring the lan adapter using netconf and there's some
connection?! The hub indicates that there is a connection, (it is lit), but
when I try to ping another machine on my little network, the hub doesn't
indicate any activity. And ofcourse, it is not possible to ping my Linux
machine from the other box either.
All the HOWTOs says that the 3c509 works fine, they just don�t say
HOW to make it work fine!

I�m desperate

Calle



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kAos)
Subject: KDE doesn't start
Date: 13 Feb 1999 12:20:17 GMT

Hi all,

I installed KDE under Red Hat 5.2 on my machine. I installed everything in the
prescribed sequence (qt, qtlib, (qt-devel), kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase and a
bunch of apps), using rpm (so it checks dependencies). It did install with no
probs. Then I ran install script (for one user), set all the environmental
variables I could find a reference to (PATH, QTDIR, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, KDEDIR):
So my .profile:

QTDIR=/usr/X11R6
#QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt
#QTDIR=/usr/lib
PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=$QTDIR/man:$MANPATH
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH
export QTDIR PATH MANPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH LIBRARY_PATH
export CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH

But when I start 'startx' (or 'startkde'), the X server starts okay, but then
dies, and gives me the following error messages:

kfmkpanelkwmsoundkrootwmkaudioserver: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti13QRangeControl
: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti7QBuffer
: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti6QFrame
: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti6QFrame
: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti7QWidget
kwm: error in loading shared libraries
/opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.2: undefined symbol: __ti13QRangeControl

I thought the above symbols/functions are in the qt library, but setting
'QTDIR' in my .profile did not make any difference.

Does anyone have a solution/suggestion? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Since I'll not be around the net for a few days, please cc
messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Akos

-- 
Change 'SMALLHAND' to 'BIGFOOT' in my email address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Kunert)
Subject: vfat with umlaut and SuSE 6.0
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:24:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I have some trouble with on the vfat filesystem with files including
some umlaut. If i copy under linux files with an umlaut in it to
another place on the vfat partition, the filename is changed.
The orginal file was generated with DOS. If i look onto the copyed
file under DOS again, the filename is changed. If i look with linux to
this files, there is no problem. Also only the short filename is
changed. I have mounted vfat with several otions for testing e.c.
-o codepage=850 or -o codepage=437. No luck.
NLS is also included in the kernel 2.0.36
 The log filenames
have no problem.
Here a example:
orginal:
short: Men�ba~1  long: Men�baumhaus
after the copy:
short: Men�ba~1 long: Men�baumhaus

This behavour is of course very bad for files used under windows 95.
Some idears out there ?

kind regards
---
Thomas Kunert
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:13:32 +0800

In comp.os.linux.misc TURBO1010 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 256M of ram, and 2 processors, and it's still slow as hell.  Win98 will
> smoke linux, and that that it runs on 1 processor.

I got two processors with 128MB and it runs very fast. Does not use swap at
all, even during compilation.

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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:11:44 +0800

Trying to compile kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1. 
Getting the following error:

make linux
....

kutio.c: In function `ttsspd':
ckutio.c:4679: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
ckutio.c:4679: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ckutio.c:4679: for each function it appears in.)
ckutio.c:4685: `TIOCSSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
ckutio.c: In function `ttgspd':
ckutio.c:4833: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
ckutio.c: In function `in_chk':
ckutio.c:6092: warning: passing arg 3 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
ckutio.c:6092: warning: passing arg 4 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
make[1]: *** [ckutio.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/bin/kermit'
make: *** [linux] Error 2

Any ideas?

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:47:53 +0100
From: Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often

Ville Nummela wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Jan Houtsma wrote:
>
> > I am running Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2.
>
> 4.08, you mean :-)

of course :-)

> Here's the solution for you: Go to netscape's www-site, there is a page
> which tells you with which shared libraries was netscape compiled.
> Upgrading to the same versions helps a lot with these hangs (I can't
> remember when was the last time my netscape hung :-)

upgrading or downgrading? I have the latest libraries on my computer. If i
change
them back to older ones, i prolly run into trouble with other applications
again. Sounds like a 'chicken or egg' problem :-)

Best and cleanest thing would be to recompile with my own libraries then.
I think the source code was available, but maybe only to a selected group
of people?
I also dont know where to find it.

Jan


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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Emacs and Afterstep problem
Crossposted-To: comp.editors,gnu.emacs.help,comp.unix.questions
Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:18:59 +0800




I am running Afterstep window manager. It seems to conflict with Emacs
control-v function. Where in the Afterstep configuration files can I change
this?

Also: I would like to remap my caps lock and control keys. I can't remember
where the configuration file is in Linux that does it.

Linux 2.2.1


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