Linux-Misc Digest #136, Volume #19 Mon, 22 Feb 99 03:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Russell Nelson)
Need help with mounting floppy and cdrom (Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nystr=F6m?=)
ppp prodigy setup - help!!! (Thomas Frese)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Shaun Lipscombe)
Re: Chat Program (Bill Unruh)
New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel (Doug Nordwall)
Re: Modem driver??? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (void)
Moderate newsgroup ("MrCyber")
Re: IBM adds Linux (Ed Young)
Re: kernel compilation problems (Tim Moore)
Re: Please help! Xfree86 (Ed Young)
Re: Balsa, gnome 0.99.8, RH5.2 and compile problems (Tom Ellis)
Re: _Good_ (support 5+ systems) Monitor/Mouse/Keyboard switch for pc... ("Jan
Johansson")
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Ken)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Ken)
Re: swapon warning (Seth Van Oort)
Re: sendmail effective user (Russell Nelson)
Diamond internal modem setup (Colin Walls)
Advanced RAM usage question... ("news.rogers.ca")
Linux for DECstation ? (Taizo SUZUKI)
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From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:20:46 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis) writes:
> >
> > I tend to side with John, but isn't there room for more than one
> > license in the world?
> >
> That is *exactly* the kind of point that I have been making. GPL
> isn't the only license. Sometimes in it's growth, some misuse
> of language has been used, and it is time to look at free licenses
> as an alternative.
Your freedom to swing your fist stops at my face. Does that mean I am
misusing the word "freedom"?
Indeed, the very term "free license" is an oxymoron. If there are no
limits, why does it need a license?
--
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson
Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:53:24 +0100
From: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nystr=F6m?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need help with mounting floppy and cdrom
Hello all
I have a problem, when i mount the cdrom and floppy in Linux with the
command
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom i get the message : /dev/fd0 (or
/dev/cdrom) is not a valid block device, Why? How do i mount the cd or
floppy?
Michael Nystr�m
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Thomas Frese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp prodigy setup - help!!!
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:27:23 -0500
I just signed up for internet access with prodigy
but can't get the ppp connection to work under
linux. The modem dials in, connects but then hangs
up, ppp never comes up. Any suggestions?
Below are my script files: I have replaced
my prodigy login by 'john.smith', but the real one
is similar and contains a period (is that a problem?)
A very similar configuration worked with mci/cwix, just
that they used chap. I replaced the nameservers with the
prodigy ones and put in the pap-secrets. What about netmask?
Any suggestions are appreciated!!
Thanks
Tom
frese01@...
dialin:
/usr/sbin/pppd connect "/usr/sbin/chat -r/etc/ppp/connect-errors -f
/etc/ppp/prod.chat"
/etc/ppp/prod.chat:
REPORT CONNECT
ABORT BUSY
ABORT 'NO CARRIER'
"" ATL0
OK ATDT*70,829-9801
CONNECT ""
/etc/ppp/options:
/dev/ttyS1
115200
modem
crtscts
defaultroute
netmask 255.255.255.0
asyncmap 0
name john.smith
user john.smith
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets :
# Secrets for authentication using PAP
# client server secret IP addresses
john.smith * <password>
/etc/resolv.conf:
search
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 198.83.19.241
nameserver 198.83.19.244
/etc/named.boot:
;
; a caching only nameserver config
;
directory /var/named
cache . named.ca
primary 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa named.local
forwarders 198.83.19.241 198.83.19.244
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From: Shaun Lipscombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:26:23 +0000
I thought that Solaris became free only recently (and I am sure that
it was for areason other than generosity to joe blogg user). I have
heard from people who use Solaris on sparc's that x86 is vastly
inferior, but I cannot comment myself. Linux and FreeBSD are free,
and always will be, and its the philosophy behind free software in
general, especially Linux, that makes me use it.
--
( )
~oo~
.. Gnu!
/ =\ \=
- - - =-=-The choice of the Linux generation-=-=
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Chat Program
Date: 22 Feb 1999 06:17:54 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>As a newbie, I couldn't get chat to work at all.
>minicom, kppp, even ppp0 from the command line
>work for me without any problems. But chat? No!
chat is designed to be used by pppd, not from the command line. However
it can be used except that you have to make sure that the output and
input go to the serial port
thus
chat -v '' at OK ATD1234567 CONNECT '' ogin: fred assword: geewizz '' pppd
>/dev/ttyS1 </dev/ttyS1
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From: Doug Nordwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:48:22 -0700
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Whenever I hit new message in Netscape (4.08 and 4.5), it freezes
netscape. This is after I updated my kernel to 2.2.1. It does not freeze
if I am logged in as root, but it does as any user, so I suspect that it
is a permission problem on a library, but I have no idea which. Perhaps
someone with more knowledge could give me a hand?
--
Doug Nordwall "Who's the bigger fool?
New Mexico Highlands The fool or the fool who follows him?"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ben Kenobi
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Whenever I hit new message in Netscape (4.08 and 4.5), it freezes netscape.
This is after I updated my kernel to 2.2.1. It does not freeze if I am
logged in as root, but it does as any user, so I suspect that it is a permission
problem on a library, but I have no idea which. Perhaps someone with more
knowledge could give me a hand?
<pre>--
Doug
Nordwall
"Who's the bigger fool?
New Mexico Highlands
The fool or the fool who follows him?"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Ben Kenobi</pre>
</html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Modem driver???
Date: 22 Feb 1999 06:20:33 GMT
In <7aqm0h$amj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Carson Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Does anyone know where I can get a driver for my US Robotics 56K X2 Modem?
>Its not the Winmodem but its on the list of unsupported modems that I found
>on Redhats web site. Does anyone have one? Im running Red Hat 5.2.
modem drivers do not exist in Linux. The only modems which need drivers
are winmodems . If yours is an external modem, yours is not a winmodem.
If it is a PCI modem, it almost certainly is (even if it does not say
so. Manufacturers have learned that the tems "windows modem" scares off
some customers so they nolonger tell you.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (void)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 22 Feb 1999 06:22:56 GMT
On 22 Feb 1999 02:45:49 GMT, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>It is _you_ who misuse the term "free". You aren't the only one, but
>most other people who use your notion of freedom seem to love in small
>shacks somewhere in the middle of nowhere, preferably Montana.
Well, hang on: John's not suggesting general anarchy, just an anarchistic
software license. One can be against rules in software licenses without
being against rules, period.
While I don't agree with your socioethnogeography above, I think there
might be something to it. Specifically, could it be that the GPL is
somehow European in character while the Berkeley license in more American?
I have some thoughts of my own on which license is superior, and why, but
I'll keep them to myself for now as this seems more like a flame war than
a discussion, and I don't want to add fuel to the fire.
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
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From: "MrCyber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Moderate newsgroup
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:59:46 +0100
Hello all,
I have this problem. We have a moderated newsgroup which we need to
moderate. This was first done by someone who used Linux to do it, but he
quit and isn't willing to exchange his knowledge with us, so we need to
completely re-setup things but I don't have much experience with Linux.
Can anyone help me with this please ? It's really very important since our
newsgroup hasn't been moderated for the last 3 days now and loads of
messages are waiting.
Grtz,
MrCyber
P.S. I am using Debian 2.0
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM adds Linux
Date: 21 Feb 1999 02:11:44 GMT
I like the idea of IBM supporting Linux. It will legitimize it in the
corporate scene. But I'm not too happy with AIX. I use HP-UX, AIX, and
Linux at work. I'll take Linux or HP-UX any day over AIX. I have
processes mysteriously lock up on AIX, not so with Linux or HP-UX (the
same processes BTW in an IBM product no less, others have complained, no
fix in sight)...
sean mc cann wrote:
>
> The really interesting thing is that IBM are to support several
> different distrabutions of linux. This is an interesting choice.
> Personally I thing this is for the best and IBM don't want to swap one
> vendor lock for another. The impression you get from some of the PC
> press is that their are only Red Hat and Calderra distrabutions.
> They are both excellent distrabutions but so are SuSE, Debian, Slackware
> and many others.
>
> I wonder what Redmonds reaction to this will be. They'll probably site
> this devolpment in the anti trust case as an example of competition:)
> If anyone has the financial clout to to take on Redmond its IBM.
> Although they might see it as a way of leveraging their extensive Unix
> knowledge into the PC market. If IBM can input some of AIXs scaleabilty
> into Linux then we'd be on the pigs back. What does anybody else think.
>
> Sean.
>
> Ronald Hands wrote:
> >
> > Interesting story in many newspapers this week, reporting that IBM has
> > decided to begin adding Linux to its Netfinity servers -- the ones that
> > already come configured with NT.
> > *That* should stir things up.
> > The story's available on www.nytimes.com (search using Linux on previous
> > issues; I think the story actually appeared Thursday).
> >
> > -- Ron
> >
> > --
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:13:44 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel compilation problems
> First problem: I have a DLink DFE530TX. Fine; found on the net that
> Donald Becker's got an experimental via3403.c driver that should run it.
> My problem: how do I add the driver to the kernel build? I'm going to
NIC drivers are in /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx/drivers/net. If I remember
correctly the 530 uses a DEC 21040, commonly referred to as the Tulip
chip. Try selecting the Tulip driver before mucking about with prototype
code. If you don't have tulip.c (tulip.c:v0.89H 5/23/98) send email.
Also see /usr/doc/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.
> 2.0.32 only see <64 Mb of the 128 Mb of installed memory in the machine.
'append "mem=128M"' in /etc/lilo.conf
--
[Replies: yy -> y]
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help! Xfree86
Date: 21 Feb 1999 02:15:07 GMT
Mark Cardwell wrote:
>
> I have been using DOS up to Windows 98 for 4 years and finally decided I
> had to try Linux. My local computer store had Red Hat 5.2, so I got
> that and installed it today. I have it dual booting between Linux and
> Win 98.
>
> I have the Diamond Monster Fusion Banshee graphics card. I installed
> the SVGA server and selected Unlisted card and then selected my
> monitor. Ok, when I enter 'startx' it goes to a blank screen for a
> fraction of a second, and then brings me back to the prompt. It says
> "No screen found" in the error message.
>
> Any idea what's going on?
>
> I'm new to Linux and this is my first day, so if this is a stupid
> question, sorry!
>
> _________________Mark Cardwell__________________
> THE CELERON OVERCLOCKING GUIDE
> Version 2.1 - Check it Out!
> http://www.ultranetwork.net/celeron/index.shtml
> ________________________________________________
Go the the RedHat update site (updates.redhat.com or mirror) and pick up
XFree86-*3.3.3.1-1.i386.rpm updates. Also pick up the VGA16 driver for
same. Install them. Then use the XF86Setup utility provided to setup
your mouse, keyboard, video card, and monitor. This has worked well for
me on 4 different computers. Best of luck...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Ellis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Balsa, gnome 0.99.8, RH5.2 and compile problems
Date: 20 Feb 1999 20:05:32 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Rule #1 for the Gnome aficionado: install from source. RPMs are
>worthless with this beast.
Thanks for the tip. I just thought it would be easier to stick with the RPMs
since they were available, and that this route might make the continual
upgrade process a little easier down the line.
>Are you sure you've got the most recent GTK+, 1.1.15? GTK+ 1.0.x won't
>work.
Well, a quick check with rpm -q reveals that gtk+-1.1.15-2 and
gtk+-devel-1.1.15-2 are installed, so I would assume that the version is
correct for balsa 0.49. Actually, I just tried the older 0.46 source
available from the balsa webpage, www.balsa.net, and it also bombed at the
exact same point. Might I have better luck snagging the latest source from
CVS? I noticed that the source on the CVS server has replaced ./configure
with ./autogen.sh. Thanks.
Tom
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc
Subject: Re: _Good_ (support 5+ systems) Monitor/Mouse/Keyboard switch for pc...
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:27:11 +0100
Cybex (www.cybex.com) Prolly makes the best there is.. but they are NOT even
close to cheap. But it is about the only ones i have found that can tackle
multiple 1600x1200@99Hz machines in a good way.
Man wrote in message <01be5c9f$40870ae0$240b5e18@workstation>...
>I currently have a two-computer vga/serial/kb switch that is made by PC
>Concepts that I purchased from Fry's Electronics for ~$35. Now, I am
>looking to add another computer and would still like to have control over
>all three boxen from my single monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Could anyone
>suggest a better one than the one I have now, possibly one that just just
>push a soft button instead of turning a large (0.5") switch for each
>computer...
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:43:53 -0800
From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Mr. Torvalds,
I like (very much) and use both Linux and FreeBSD. I don't, however,
think that the license (BSD or GNU) has anything to
do with which of the two is the "best" free Unix. They are
both nice systems.
As far as licensing, both you and Mr. Dyson have publicly
stated that you think people should have a right to choose
whatever license they want to release their software under.
Yet, at the same time, you both criticize each other for
your respective choice of license.
While I respect your right to disagree with each other, this
thread (although it _was_ entertaining at first) seems more
and more like a personal thing between the two of you. So, with
all due respect, could you argue in private, or at least keep
it out of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and comp.os.linux.misc?
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> In article <7aq10u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-- snip --
With best wishes,
Ken Deboy
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:49:46 -0800
From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Mr. Dyson,
I like (very much) and use both Linux and FreeBSD. I don't,
however, think that the license (BSD or GNU) has anything to
do with which of the two is the "best" free Unix. They are
both nice systems.
As far as licensing, both you and Mr. Torvalds have publicly
stated that you think people should have a right to choose
whatever license they want to release their software under.
Yet, at the same time, you both criticize each other for
your respective choice of license.
While I respect your right to disagree with each other, this
thread (although it _was_ entertaining at first) seems more
and more like a personal thing between the two of you. So, with
all due respect, could you argue in private, or at least keep
it out of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and comp.os.linux.misc?
John S. Dyson wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis) writes:
-- snip --
With best wishes,
Ken Deboy
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: swapon warning
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 06:44:27 +0000
If anyone can write to the swap partition, they can potentially change
or read any data from any process. I'm not sure if you should be worried
about this thing though since the group for /dev/hdax is disk (in
redhat at least) and therefore restricted.
seth
John Thompson wrote:
>
> Since upgrading to kernel 2.2.1 I've been seeing this
> warning from swapon whenever I boot:
>
> swapon: warning: /dev/hda6 has insecure permissions 0660,
> 0600 suggested
>
> Why are permissions a concern for the swap partition? How
> concerned should I be about this? Where do I change it
> (fstab)? Or elsewhere?
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail effective user
Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:25:38 -0500
Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How can I find out under what effective user my sendmail DELIVERS mail?
Well, if you were running qmail, you could just read the documentation,
then you'd discover that qmail always delivers mail as a particular user.
So, you could either switch to qmail (easier done than said), or else
you could try the following under sendmail:
|/usr/bin/id | mail prudek
I have no idea whether it will work or not, sendmail being sendmail.
But heck, it *might* work!
--
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://crynwr.com/~nelson
Crynwr supports Open Source(tm) Software| PGPok | There is good evidence
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | that freedom is the
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | cause of world peace.
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From: Colin Walls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Diamond internal modem setup
Date: 20 Feb 1999 10:13:00 +0000
I have had a Diamond SupraExpress PCI modem given. I have read the
serial and modem HOWTOs but I have not been able to make the thing work.
Can anyone help?
Could you please respond by mail, as well as to the groups since I am
having some problems reading News at the moment :-(
--
Colin Walls
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.murorum.demon.co.uk
Phone: 01625 535123
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From: "news.rogers.ca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Advanced RAM usage question...
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:16:19 -0500
Hello,
I just added an additional 48 megs of RAM to my slackware Linux system
and after a week of usage I have 5 megs free (when I run "free" I see this)
and 45 Megs in Buffers.
My question is, what do those buffers do and should I be worried that I
have a running program with a memory leak? After all I only have 5 megs
free... I was expecting to see 45 megs free.
Thanks!
Luc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Taizo SUZUKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux for DECstation ?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:44:48 +0100
Where can I find Linux for MIPS DECstation ?
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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