Linux-Misc Digest #136, Volume #25 Sat, 15 Jul 00 02:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: E-mail program (Grant Edwards)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (Homer Jay)
gnome logout problem (Mike Edelstein)
gnuvoice config file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Which one to use (blowfish)
How to get pop3 Mail in 'pine'? (softrat`)
/etc/kppp.allow question (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: File Description under Apache 1.3.x (David Efflandt)
Re: Running a dos program under linux (Paul Pelzl)
Re: How to get pop3 Mail in 'pine'? (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: modprobe message? (Krzys Majewski)
Re: gnome logout problem (Sylvain Louboutin)
resizing partitions in linux (Craig A Lebowitz)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Peter R. Schmitt)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Peter R. Schmitt)
Re: Apache CGI problems. (Dave Brown)
Re: Play mpeg without Xwindows (Scott Smith)
Re: dd (Dave Brown)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: E-mail program
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 03:17:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Pine rocks.
>
>s/rock/suck/
>
>Elm on the other hand...
Is a venerated but long-in-the-tooth ancestor of mutt.
;)
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! It's OKAY --- I'm an
at INTELLECTUAL, too.
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer Jay)
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:22:40 -0600
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:49 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jerome Mrozak wrote:
>> I'm choosing between distros and would like to NOT be stuck with a
>> distro that can't find the "latest and greatest" software, such as Gnome
>> updates, KDE updates, editors.
>> Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and Mandrake. But when all
>> is counted, what % of RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for RH
>> and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
>Basically. Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
>Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
>won't work on SuSE or RH.
>But most rpm and .deb will work on *BSD. Especially FreeBSD.
>Some Linux apps even run better on BSD than on Linux native. Even rpms.
>-blowfish.
That's interesting. Why do you suppose that is? And, why would the
software run better on a BSD kernel?
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From: Mike Edelstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome logout problem
Date: 15 Jul 2000 03:26:43 GMT
Hello,
I recently installed redhat 6.2 as an upgrade over 6.0 and now
if I log in as someone other than root, use startx to start gnome
and then try logout from gnome, the window manager seems to go
away but the Xserver wont go away. I have the mouse cursor and
the background image and that's it. I have to use the
ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the server. I'm wondering if anyone
else has seen this or has any suggestions.
Thankyou,
Mike Edelstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gnuvoice config file
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 03:21:50 GMT
The gnuvoice Makefile references a gnuvoice.conf. But it doesn't exists
in the distribution or gnuvoice cvs.
Does anyone have a working gnuvoice.conf file?
Many thanks,
Ian Collins.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Which one to use
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:58:05 -0700
conduit wrote:
>
> Hi, I am looking to re-experience installing
> linux on my computer.
> After two years i think it is time to try
> a different distribution. I am looking at either
> Slack
> SuSE or
> Debian.
> Now i know there must be some
> opinions out there.
> So join in on the debate.....
> Which is best ??
>
> WW
SuSE (SMP support right out of the box, tons of toys and apps. Brain
dead easy to install and set up),
FreeBSD/BSDi (speed king of the free OS/s, SMP supports-with custom
kernel.Brain-dead easy to build new kernel, and 99% idiot proof, system
will still boot even if you groofed with the new kernel. ease of set up
is about the same as with SuSE.)
OpenBSD (AnyBSD is really easy to set up. Excellent/unbeatable track
record on security.)
Slackware (the old fashioned way. no frills , but works.)
Any BSD will beat any Linux in ease of installation (except SuSE, maybe
Mandrake as well.)
and upgrade. All four mentioned here are very stable. Can't go wrong
with any. And most BSD runs linux's binaries extremely well.
If you chooseSuSE. Go for the Frasier / LVM file system, instead of the
old ext2fs.
I use SuSE, FreeBSD and OpenBSD myself.
Have a lot of fun. :)
-blowfish.
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From: softrat` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to get pop3 Mail in 'pine'?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:59:44 -0700
How do I configure pine to get my pop3 mail from the WWW? Or if pine
won't do this, what will?
--
the softrat
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS: fetchmail doesn't work either.
---
God is real, unless declared integer.
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: /etc/kppp.allow question
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:51:59 -0700
How come after creating '/etc/kppp.allow' adding my username, still get
this error:
--
$ kppp
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
kppp: cannot connect to X server :0
$
--
Please reply me direct without removeme.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: File Description under Apache 1.3.x
Date: 15 Jul 2000 04:01:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 14 Jul 2000 23:42:40 GMT, ljb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>I have an intranet site where we are posting common/useful files among
>>other things.
>>
>>I am trying to fill the last part of the listing where the Description can
>>be given ....
>>
>>Could anyone give me an example how to do this ....
>>
>>For the record, the server is running Linux (2.0.38 for the moment) and
>>Apache 1.3.9 ....
>>
>>What I am trying to do is to lessen my phone calls for helping our staff
>>with question like which file do I donwload for ..... ????
>
>You can use the Apache directive "AddDescription" in httpd.conf to
>add a short description, based on the file extension, or the filename.
>For example: AddDescription "GZIP compressed document" .gz
>will put "GZIP compressed document" next to all *.gz files.
>You can also add descriptions for individual files, but to me this is
>useless because you have to edit the httpd.conf file and restart Apache
>whenever it changes. You are better off creating your own directory
>index in index.html.
You can use AddDescription in .htaccess which can be specific to the
directory and does not require restarting apache. The conf file just
needs to include Indexes (or All) in AllowOverride. An example is
http://www.de-srv.com/linux/ which also has a HEADER.html and README.html
(which is really a footer).
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: Paul Pelzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running a dos program under linux
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:18:49 GMT
The -L flag is used for loading a bootable DOS hard disk image, not astandard
dos executable. You need to boot a hard disk image (whichcontains a DOS
kernel) first, then start the executable. Yourdistribution probably has a
small disk image set up already (that is thecase if typing "dos" alone gives
you a dos prompt). You may be able touse the mtools package (man mtools) to
copy your dos executable ontothat disk image so you can access it. However,
IMO a better solution isto use a DRDOS disk image that you can download from
lineo.com. Thatincludes the LREDIR utility, which lets you directly mount
Linuxdirectories from under DRDOS. Once you've used LREDIR to mount
thedirectory with your B.EXE, you can run it from DRDOS without any extra
work.The DRDOS HD image is available at http://www.drdos.com . - PaulIn
article <8kmhil$9rh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Bas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>
Hello,>> i have a DOS executable that i want to run under linux called
B.EXE.> > How can i achievethis?> > When i run 'dos -L B.EXE'> it says: DEXE
file not found or not executable.> > i hope someone can help.> >Kind
regards,> > Erik Bas> >
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: How to get pop3 Mail in 'pine'?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Valid for a limited time)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:33:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, softrat` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How do I configure pine to get my pop3 mail from the WWW?
"POP3 from the WWW"?
If you just want pine to get mail from a POP3 server, use
inbox-path={mailserver/pop3}
in your .pinerc .
--
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
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From: Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modprobe message?
Date: 14 Jul 2000 21:48:11 -0700
Put
alias sound-slot-0 sound
alias sound-service-0-0 sb
in /etc/modutils/aliases and run update-modules,
or else just put it in /etc/modules.conf
(substitute whatever your driver is called for "sb") -chris
-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I get the following upon boot:
>
> Jul 14 13:17:54 sue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
> sound-slot-0
> Jul 14 13:17:54 sue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
> sound-service-0-6
>
> I'm using a module for the Maestro-2 chip and everything seems
> to work OK.
>
> Any ideas on how to get rid of these?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Sylvain Louboutin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome logout problem
Date: 15 Jul 2000 04:58:35 GMT
Mike Edelstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recently installed redhat 6.2 as an upgrade over 6.0 and now
>if I log in as someone other than root, use startx to start gnome
>and then try logout from gnome, the window manager seems to go
>away but the Xserver wont go away. I have the mouse cursor and
>the background image and that's it. I have to use the
>ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the server. I'm wondering if anyone
>else has seen this or has any suggestions.
same problem; on top of that logging in as other than root takes
forever; current solution: running KDE instead :-) and on the
advice of a colleague, am re-installing Gnome from Helix (www.helixcode.com)
which I am told is much less troublesome that Gnome as distributed by
Redhat (besides, Helix have a pretty cool way of distributing/installing
Gnome). Should find out how it goes this weekend :-)
--Sylvain
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:34:02 -0400
From: Craig A Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: resizing partitions in linux
I'm running Red Hat 6.2 and I'd like to get rid of Windows and resizem
my linux partition. Can anyone suggest the best way to do this? I
really don't want to mess up my config at this point.
Also - what is a good way to see where HD space is being used on my
filesystem? I haven't found an easy way to do this. I have KDE and
GNOME available. TIA.
craig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter R. Schmitt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: 15 Jul 2000 04:10:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On or about Tue, 04 Jul 2000 20:42:29 -0700,
Mike Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> allegedly wrote:
>TurboShitzu is a mess. Have any of you installed a minumum software set
>and then gone in and tried to do the REAL install using turbopkg? Have
>you noticed that
>
>1. There is no way to select EVERYTHING? That you have to go down the
>entire f--king list, checking the packages one at a time? Have you
[snip much possibly valid rantage]
>
>-- If you can't give a WRITTEN GUARANTEE that your distro will NOT
>NEGATIVELY IMPACT the current state of your box, then get out of the
>game. You got no business in it. You're a piss-ant. You can't run with
>the Big Dogs. You're a Tech Shitzu. Get off my leg.
>
>Mike
You've been reading *way* too much ASR, right?
You're getting there. You'd be laughed out of the ASR academy, though.
Laser like precision is required for a quality rant. Seeing red, being
extremely overtorqued on caffeine, and liberal doses of various
complex carbon compounds really help to focus the sensibilities.
You need a tad more practice. There was something a bit errmmm... flaccid
going on there. I wasn't moved as much as I should have been.
ObSpellingFlame: It's copascetic, you fool =^D
Style suggestion: Turboshitzu? Please!
Rant on, d00d!
Pete.
--
- Nobody moves very much in a Hanna Barbera cartoon! - Zorak
- Kids! Lusers! If I context switch any faster, my brain is gonna burn up!
- Prschmitt at yahoo dot com .
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter R. Schmitt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: 15 Jul 2000 04:51:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On or about Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:03:19 GMT,
Jeffrey Gudmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> allegedly wrote:
>Thomas
>
>I accept and agree with the points you raise.
Ye GODS! Get the fscking chain saw!
>
>In my youth (!!!) I enjoyed fixing and tuning my old bomb of a car so that
>it would get
>me to University for 4 years. Looking back I think it was a "good" thing
>that I scraped my knuckles in this fashion, cos I learnt a great deal about
>motor vehicles. But I swore back then that when I could afford it I would
>buy a car that just "worked" and didn't need constant mothering to keep it
>alive.
Ok. I gotta challenge this.
I am CONSTANTLY approached by people that know that I understand
machinery to fix their stuff for them. What do I do? I tell them to
RTFM! (shop manual) If I DO work on their shit, I charge them right up
the ol' wazoo as a severe disincentive for them ever to ask me again. I
do better work than most shops because I *care* about what I do, and
people realize this.
I do NOT enjoy being used in this manner. If you utilise a piece
of hardware, you should have SOME clue about how it works. Period.
Leave me the fsck alone. Educate yourself. I have a life. I am most
emphatically NOT your defacto or for hire servant. I learned this stuff.
That learning inconvenienced me. You are not exempt from incovenience
in life. Deal with it.
>By comparison, my son (21) wouldn't know the difference between a
>distributor and a differential because nowadays we want something that just
>works out of the box. In addition, if you opened the hood of a current model
>vehicle then 1) you wouldn't know where to start because its all
>"computerised" and b) if you altered anything you would probably bugger it
>up. But you accept this because it just "works" - until something does go
>wrong and then you're really up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
So sorry about your son. I have a nephew like this (23). He's never been
absolutely stranded on occasion like I have. He expects assistance on trivial
issues. I could provide it, but I choose not to. So far, the strategy
has worked rather well. He's clued himself up >< this much about
computing, and knows M$ to some degree. He's 'administrating' NT boxen,
whatever that actually means...
Still.. The point is this: I let him know in no uncertain terms
that I fully expected him to educate himself, as I did. I would help,
but there would be no cheating.
He's gotten the message ( and thinks he's hot stuff LOL!) and is
learning on his own.
Find your son a classic car of some sort, and see how he deals
with that. Dwell angles and advance curves are very cool!
Sorry I couldn't retain the rest of the article. I grew impatient
about editing it.
You should trim extraneous context from any usenet followup.
Huge inclusions from previous posts are verboten. Don't do that.
Play with us. Our rules are very accomodating!
Pete.
--
- Nobody moves very much in a Hanna Barbera cartoon! - Zorak
- Kids! Lusers! If I context switch any faster, my brain is gonna burn up!
- Prschmitt at yahoo dot com .
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Apache CGI problems.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Jul 2000 00:47:16 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, walter wrote:
>specifically my apache error log states:
>
>[Thu Jul 13 18:09:37 2000] [error] [client 192.168.1.3] Premature end of
>script
>headers: /home/admin/public_html/uffl/score.cgi
>
>The http.conf file is set up to allow users to execute cgi scripts in
>their home directories:
>
>FROM HTTPD.CONF:
><Directory /home/*/public_html>
>Options All
>AllowOverride All
></Directory>
>
>the server has been restarted.
>
>The html file calls a post to the scripts like so:
>
><FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="score.cgi">
>
>The perl scripts score.cgi is in the same directory as the html file
>which is in a public_html subdirectory. It has 755 permissions, I
>removed any of the dos end of line characters that might have been
>there. I checked the location of perl and it is correct. The script runs
>fine on my ISP site using the same files.
>
>I don't know how to run it manually since it requires two pieces of
>input data. do you run it like a C executable? by passing parameters
>manually?
>
>
>
>Dave Brown wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Akira Yamanita wrote:
>> >walter wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I can't get cgi scripts to work anywhere, not in the defined cgi bin,
>> ...
>> Can you execute the script yourself, instead of having the server
>> execute it? When you execute it, you should see the errors directly.
>> However, the server should also log those errors somewhere (depending
>> on server configuration) when it executes the script.
>> ...
I haven't set up Apache to run user cgi scripts, so I don't know if this
is a server setup problem. When setting up the "system's web page" as
root, the cgi scripts are not in the same directory as the htmls, but
in a directory cgi-bin under "server_root"--perhaps there's something
magic about this location. It sounds much like you're dealing with an
Apache config problem.
On the question of how to test a cgi script when it doesn't have the
inputs provided by the client through the server, you just add a
couple of lines to your cgi script. For instance, if you're using
"GET", values are placed in the environment variable QUERY_STRING.
Well, you can set that variable in your script... then see how the
script performs when it's there. Or if you're using "POST", you
have to feed the values in via "STDIN", (a little bit harder to
simulate... you could do it with a "here document" or use input
redirection on the command line. (You may also have to supply a
CONTENT_LENGTH value, which the server provides when getting a POST.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Play mpeg without Xwindows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 05:43:04 GMT
>>> Is it possible to play a movie (mpeg or quicktime) without using Xwindows,
>>> only in Shell screen.
>>>
>>> Maybe using frame buffer ?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your help.
>>>
>>> thierry
To view mpegs at the console in Linux (and hear them), go to freshmeat.net
look up smpeg. On smpeg's page they will have the source (maybe binaries)
and also a link to SDL which you will need.
You will need SVGA and have to tell SDL to support it (by default, it won't).
--
Scott Lacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Student of Computer Science
"Nullus Anxietas" Denton, Texas, US
The University of North Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: dd
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Jul 2000 00:54:28 -0500
In article <8kfnfj$671$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kieran Tyrrell wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know where I can get hold of the 'dd' util compiled for DOS?
>
>(I need to raw write a linux partition from a windows machine...) or if
>anyone can suggest a good alternative to dd?
I've seen DOS versions of dd, probably have one around. But it's not
clear to me how you're going to "address" the 'raw linux partition' to
dd a partition image from some source >>in DOS<<.
Several have mentioned rawrite.exe, which is fine for writing to a floppy
device, but not apparent to me that you could write to a raw hard disk
partition.
I really don't understand what you're trying to do, but if it's what I
think it is, it would sure be a lot easier to do in Linux, using a
Linux rescue diskette to boot the machine into linux.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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