Linux-Misc Digest #205, Volume #19               Sat, 27 Feb 99 10:13:38 EST

Contents:
  Re: installing linux ("Scott Teeters")
  Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Ilya)
  Re: Looking for a cross-compiler (Andy Smith)
  Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info ("John Burton")
  Help: lowlevel.o errors during Kernel compile (J Sako)
  Re: Mounting a MS-DOS partition (Andy Smith)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Dai-Shan")
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Shane Steven Sturrock)
  Re: Firewall with 1 IP (Eduardo Perez)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Craig Kelley)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Dai-Shan")
  Re: interested in linux... (bklimas)
  Re: partitioning hard drive (Michael Wright)
  Linux Internet Cafe idea ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: wysiwyg html editor ("David Z. Maze")
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (jik-)
  Re: Managing X windows ("David Z. Maze")
  Re: glibc Netscape 4.5 dies when encounters java (Mircea)
  Re: xosview with linux-2.2.2 (Michael Finken)
  Re: (no subject) (Shane Steven Sturrock)
  Re: Looking for a cross-compiler (javierlt)

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From: "Scott Teeters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing linux
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:50:01 -0500

Had a similar problem, and found an easy yet embarrassing solution. First,
check to make sure the cabling is attached correctly. Next, make sure your
CD-Rom and Harddrive are jumpered properly to work together with the HD as
Master, and the CD-Rom as Slave. I've experienced both these problems, and
either one will hose you off the bat. I am now running RH5.2, and loving it.
Good luck.


Chris T. wrote in message ...
>does anyone know why i can't seem to install linux (Redhat 5.2), i boot up
my
>system, and select the option i wanted, then when it comes to where i am
>installing it from, i select local cd-rom, but then i do that, it just
seems
>to be stuck.
>
>I'm installing from CD-ROM which is written in Joliet format, and my hard
>drive is already formatted for linux file format with the swap file
partition
>already made.  If anyone can help me, please e-mail me.



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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: 27 Feb 1999 04:22:25 +0800

In comp.os.linux.misc Boycott Swintel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>       Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
> track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
> turned on and off by software.  

And I won't ever buy an Intel product. Get something else. My Pentium II is
the last one.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Looking for a cross-compiler
Date: 27 Feb 1999 13:49:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:46:14 +0000, javierlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I�m looking for a cross-compiler for C++
>Any help will be apreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>--
>for answer leave xxx in my email

And wich platform would you like to target?

-Andy-
-- 
----Andy Smith ------  reply to:  ----------------
     -KB9KQD-       ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

" Everybody knows that the dice are loaded,           
  Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed;
  Everybody knows that the war is over,
  Everybody knows that the good guys lost..."
                                 
                           -Leonard Cohen-

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From: "John Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:47:08 -0000

Ilya wrote in message <36d7e381.0@calwebnnrp>...
>In comp.os.linux.misc Boycott Swintel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
>> track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
>> turned on and off by software.
>
>And I won't ever buy an Intel product. Get something else. My Pentium II is
>the last one.


I don't understand what all the fuss is about. You'd need to run some
software
to actuallyt _send_ people this serial number so if you object, just don't
run
that software. This isn't any way for people to jut grab it from your
machine you know.



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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:58:57 +0000
From: J Sako <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Help: lowlevel.o errors during Kernel compile

While trying to compile in kernel sound support, I get this:

*** No rule to make target `lowlevel/lowlevel.o', needed by `sound.a'.
Stop.

Everything seems to be in place (looks like a makefile in the sound
dir). Anybody have any thoughts?
Thanks.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Smith)
Subject: Re: Mounting a MS-DOS partition
Date: 27 Feb 1999 13:59:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:32:18 -0800, Nicolassal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>

>
>
>My kernel doesn't recognize the vfat filesystem.  Is this something included
>in more recent kernels?   Sorry for my absolute ignorance (I'm trying).  How
>can I reconfigure so that I can read the vfat filesystem?
>
>Thank you once again,
>
>Nick
>

Try: 
        http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html
        
This page has most of the info you need. The newer kernal versions will
support fat32, but the kernal has to be configured to read a fat32 file
system.

-Andy-

-- 
----Andy Smith ------  reply to:  ----------------
     -KB9KQD-       ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

" Everybody knows that the dice are loaded,           
  Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed;
  Everybody knows that the war is over,
  Everybody knows that the good guys lost..."
                                 
                           -Leonard Cohen-

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From: "Dai-Shan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:18:13 GMT

shows you must be a complete freak if you think 3d games are a waste of
time - let me see you have as much fun on your precious linux box as I do
when I play a 16 player vs 16player teammatch of tribes on a PII450 with 25
ram - 19" monitor and 2 voodoo2 sli cards on top of the tnt primary card -
oh they dont make that for your precious linux box do they - sorry forgot -
anyway I am not knowcking linux and am indeed looking forward to trying it
out but its anti-windows freaks like this that make all the rest of the
computer community look at many of you as just that- freaks- anyway I have
no problem with having another OS  but also believe Microsoft has teh right
to do as it wishes- I hate the idea of the US  govt regulating anything in
business - but before I get on that rant let me say I welcome comments from
those who like to rationally discuss the issues but for those of you who
actually believe that IN ITS PRESENT FORM - linux is better than Windows -
then you have no credibility - as a network systems engineer I would just
LOVE to see you Linux only freaks run a 200+ computer system business of
whatever sort that actual normal - I only use my computer at work end
users - have to use these linux boxes - first the secretaries and many
others would probably quit the first day - next I can only imagine the
number of on staff it people you would have to have - and then the best part
would come as you try and order things from you vendors and they sorta just
chuckle when you say oh we dont have any windows machines so all these
programs and hardware need to work with  linux - anyone heard of Chaper
11?Linux has its place - but a windows killer?- whatever - I am sure the
multi-billion dollar gaming industry is another that is just biting at the
chomp to drop Windows format and go back the trying to get a damn game to
run from a prompt crap -
Michael Powe wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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>>>>>> "Ryan" == Ryan Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>    Ryan> Matthias Warkus wrote:
>    >> > 1. Better GUI
>
>    >> Hmph. Depends on how you define a GUI and what kind of GUI you
>    >> are using on Linux.
>
>    Ryan> I dont't think any UI in Linux even touches Windows ease of
>    Ryan> use. Some of the new fangled desktop enviroments (Gnome,
>    Ryan> KDE, etc.) come close, but MS has done a good job of
>    Ryan> allowing the newbie be able to use the OS right away,
>
>Pshaw!  My experience of "newbies" in Windows is that they struggle
>terribly figuring out what to do with it.  Mostly, they don't.  I
>think part of the reason people are so fascinated with "themes" is
>that it's one of the few things they can figure out how to do with all
>that expensive hardware.
>
>As long as we're doing lists, here's mine:
>
>Biggest wastes of time on a PC
>
>1.TV Tuner Cards
>2."Themes" in window managers
>3.DVD players
>4."3D" games
>
>mp
>
>- --
>Michael Powe                                          Portland, Oregon USA
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.trollope.org
>  "Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
> -- Anthony Trollope
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane Steven Sturrock)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:00:23 +0000

On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:26:56 -0600, Robert Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
>that market. I personally don't believe that MS can (or should) be an OS for
>the people who want to get their hands dirty. Bottom line though, is you can
>do Linux type activities in MS, and vice-versa, but its better to use each
>for what its best at. I wouldn't write a thesis in vi, e.g.

Why on Earth not?  I wrote my Ph.D thesis with vi and LaTeX.  Turned out
very well indeed and with far fewer errors than you would have found had
I used something ghastly like Word.  I see so much aggro for people trying
to write large documents under Word I cannot possibly recommend anyone uses
it for anything more than the odd letter to the bank.  I bought Applix for
my wife to use for club secretarial work but again I wouldn't consider using
that for a large project.

I use Linux for everything and have done since early '95.

-- 
Dr. Shane Sturrock - http://nova.bru.ed.ac.uk/~sss
Linux, a better WinNT than WinNT

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From: Eduardo Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Firewall with 1 IP
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:06:13 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  - My ISP has asigned me 1 static IP.
>  - I have a LAN, and 3 NT Web servers on it that I want to make available to
> Inet with 192.168.X.X IPs.
>  - I want to put a Linux RedHat 5.2 based firewall before the LAN.
> 
>    Would it be possible with just 1 IP, maybe with IP Masquerading or should I
> ask for a Class C Network?
> 
>    Answers will be welcome by private e-mail.
> 
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
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You can't expect anybody out of your intranet to reach your servers if
they are in a private network like 192.168.X.X; and you cannot use
public IP's unless you pay for them.

However, you can use xinetd to redirect external calls to your Linux
firewall to your NT servers. This way, only your proxy can be reached,
requests are serviced by your NT servers. From out of your network,
people will see 3 web servers at the same public IP (on different
ports), but each one will be of the NT servers.


I hope this helps.

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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Feb 1999 07:09:42 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:

> Maybe I say this because I've used Windows for as long as it's been
> out, but I don't find Windows cryptic at all.  Actually, I find it
> pretty obvious-- and I have found that I can sit a new user (*completely
> new user*) in front of a Windows box and say, "Look at this.
> Don't ask me a single question, and poke around for yourself," and they'll
> typically start to figure things out without documentation.  That means
> (to me, anyway) that it's not cryptic.
> 
> Can you do that with UNIX?  Not really.  A newbie wouldn't think in terms
> of "cp" = "copy", "mv" = "rename and move" and so on.

Oh?  So the said user just *accidentally* types in 

    IEXPLORE.EXE

and the web browser starts up?

Oh?  They clicked an icon?  Then why are you comparing this to the
UNIX shells (I'll take any UNIX shell over DOS any day)?

You haven't used Linux in the last couple years, have you.  (and UNIX
doesn't automatically assume that people are so stupid to *not*
understand such "cryptic" commands like cp and mv)

> Nope-- the DOS 6.22 memory manager worked just fine for all the games
> I ever played/setup.  MemMaker actually did a quite nice job doing all
> of that for me... and MemMaker can be found in the DOS 6.2 HELP program,
> which people who use DOS try first... (pretty obvious to try HELP first,
> right?).

Ever try it in DOS 7 (Win 95)?

> As far as CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT-- that's always been like the
> Windows registry is today-- typical users didn't edit those types of
> things because PC World and other computer magazines always carried
> hefty warnings about editing CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT.

And it is so much easier than Linux?

What a crock.

> I've been working with Linux now for about 2 years, and guess what?  I'm
> FAR from getting it all down.
> 
> Sure, I've got my video card working in X, and I've learned about
> /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf, and /etc/rc.d/*.  But there are tons of
> things that I've not learned, some I know of and some I don't.  For
> example, I know enough about cp, mv, gzip, tar, bzip2, ps, ls, and grep
> to use them for what I'd like.  But I don't know anything about sed and
> awk, other than the fact that they exist.  Never learned emacs (although
> I use cvim and am pretty happy with it).  Still learning *TONS* on Linux.

Sed and awk are available for Windows as well.
Does this mean you still don't know Windows?  

I love Microsoft advoacte logic:

"Windows is easier because it doesn't come with any powerful tools."

Do you realize how insane this sounds to us?

-- 
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: "Dai-Shan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:21:45 GMT


Michael Powe wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
lol- bet you think any colors over 16 is extravagant also - and "hell with
that DVD - i've got my 16mm projector - works fine- microwave? what the hell
for I enjoy cooking over the fire that I started - and dont even think of
matches good lord man why do you need them - two sticks work fine" - sorry
couldnt resist a little sarcasm ;)
>
>As long as we're doing lists, here's mine:
>
>Biggest wastes of time on a PC
>
>1.TV Tuner Cards
>2."Themes" in window managers
>3.DVD players
>4."3D" games
>
>mp
>
>- --
>Michael Powe                                          Portland, Oregon USA
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.trollope.org
>  "Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
> -- Anthony Trollope
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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: interested in linux...
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:14:40 GMT

Louis LeBlanc wrote:

>
> A rather lucid comparison of some common operating systems - Author
> unknown:
>
> UNIX Airways
> Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come to the
> airport. They
> all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece by piece,
> arguing
> non-stop about what kind of plane they are supposed to be building.
>
> Air DOS
> Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides; then they jump on and let
> the
> plane coast until it hits the ground again. They then push again, jump
> on again,
> and so on...
>
> Mac Airlines
> All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look and
> act
> exactly the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you are
> gently but
> firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want to know, and
> everything will
> be done for you without your ever having to know, so just shut up.
>
> Windows Air
> The airport terminal is pretty and colorful, with friendly stewards,
> easy
> baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. After about 10
> minutes in the
> air the plane explodes with no warning whatsoever.
>
> Windows NT Air
> Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes, and
> takes out
> all the other aircraft within a 40 mile radius when it explodes.
>
> Linux Air
> Employees of all the other OS airlines decide to run their own airline.
> They
> build the planes, ticket counters, and pave the runways themselves. They
> charge
> a small fee to cover the cost of printing the ticket, but, you can also
> download
> and print the ticket yourself.  When you board the plane you are given a
> seat,
> four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled,
> the fully
> adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on
> time
> without a single problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful.
> You try to tell customers of the other airlines about the great trip,
> but all
> they can say  is "You had to do what with the seat?"
>
> "Linux is a Wonderful Adventure"
>         Louis LeBlanc
>

Ha, ha, ha. This is good.

I am also a 6-month-old Linux newbie and I caught the bug, it seems.

See my homepage for my reasons for Linux:

http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/#why_linux

Best regards,

b.k.


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From: Michael Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partitioning hard drive
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:20:15 -0500

Cedric Ware wrote:
> 
>         Hello,
> 
> >I was not asked to format my new dos partition so really I dont know hoe
> >to get to this partition and install windows on it. Booting from a dos
> >floppy does not see this partition. Does anyone have any idea about how
> >I can get to the new dos partition so as to be able to install windows.
> 
> I suppose that partition has the same type as the Linux partitions?
> Linux uses partitions with type 83 (Linux native) and 82 (Linux swap),
> whereas DOS only sees those with type 4 or 6 (FAT16).
> 
> So you can simply use Linux fdisk to change the partition's type to 6;
> then you can boot from a DOS floppy, it will be recognized as C:, and
> you'll be able to format it and (assuming the partition is a primary,
> not an extended/logical one) install DOS and Windows.
> 
>                                                 Good luck,
>                                                 Cedric.
Sorry I'm breaking in to this OLD conversation, but I did this and my
bootdisk for DOS still doesn't recognize the C: drive. I set my
partitions correctly (I think) one of them is DOS 16 >=32. When I boot
from a floppy for DOS, it not only won't install my CD Rom Driver, but
it won't even recognize the C: drive. I think the problem is in the boot
disk for DOS. But I'm not sure. I've been trying to edit the problem out
in my autoexec.bat (the problem of the CD ROM anyway) but it hasn't
worked yet.

Any ideas?

-=- Michael -=-

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Internet Cafe idea
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:03:48 GMT

Hi all,

I am setting out on a venture to start an Internet Cafe in the UK based
solely on a Linux environment.  I need some help with developing the client
systems and also with the server.  Basically, I do not want to use any MS
products, and am very very new to the Linux scene.  I would greatly
appreciate any help...

For the client PC's, I would like to know which distribution to use.  What I
would like is for the PC to boot straight into xwindows, with a locked desktop
allowing access to software only on the desktop - Netscape, StarOffice 5.0 or
Corel WordPerfect 8.0 (undecided as yet - waiting for reviews to complete)  I
would also like to disable telnet and root access.

For the Server, agian I would like to know which would be the best
distribution to use.  I want to use an ISDN 128k line which will kick in when
a user launches Netscape and has an idle disconnect time which we can modify
as and when required.  I would also like to use IP Masquerading, a virus
scanner, a firewall, and a proxy server thru which we can ban illegal sites.

I also need advice on what kind of network to implement - 10baseT, 10/100 or
Token Ring, and also where I can get my hands on monitor+keyboard+mouse
extenders from.

I am very very low on money for this venture, so no consultants advertising
please!  As much as I'd like to - I can't afford it at the moment!

Look forward to the e-mails!

Naj Hasan

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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wysiwyg html editor
Date: 27 Feb 1999 09:38:56 -0500

Clovis Sena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
CS> Subject: wysiwyg html editor

This is an oxymoron.  Can you guarantee that What You See creating a
page with, say, Netscape Composer, is What I Get using Lynx or Emacs-W3?

CS> I would like to know of a good program for web design, like
CS> frontpage or claris home page. there is some for linux?

I use XEmacs' hm-html-mode and vim for my Web work.  Both give me
syntax highlighting for HTML and at least moderately decent
indentation.  (Look at the source to my home page for an example.)

-- 
David Maze             [EMAIL PROTECTED]          http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"

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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:32:58 -0800

I decided to go back to gnu.org and read some of the webpage again after
flipping through this thread, and following a link from it that
eventually got me there.  I ran into this page, which pretty much closes
the case on what the *real* goals of the FSF are....Its too bad Linux is
so linked to this foundation, I do like it better then FBSD.

Here is the offensive page for you to view.....


http://www.gnu.org/testimonials/testimonials.html

And if you don't want to hear it from the horse's mouth, here is a
shorter version...

Its a testimonials page, it simply put, states that these testimonials
have been edited so that they will not mention certain proprietery
software.  The reason?  Well, because FSF has so much distain for
proprietery software that they cannot talk about it because talking
about it causes us to want to buy it....yet they want to toss around big
names (names which use GNU software to make money...an obviosly capitol
offence) so they didn't simply not put in the testimonial.  I mean
fuck,...were the hell does this foundation stand?????  Please, inform me
because I haven't the slightest clue anymore.

They are obviously extreeme, probably simply for the purpose of being
extreeme....not for any ideal, and definately not any ideal I want any
part of.  I believe in free software....FSF is not about freedom.

I personally find this extreemly offensive and will NOT contribute
anything to this foundation.  Especially not my code, or my name by
GPLing ANYTHING.  Course, I am not saying people who GPL thier software
are bad, just that they may be linking themselves to a group, which
talks about nice ideals,....but really believes in anything but freedom,
or the ideals to which it preaches so adamantly.

And to think, before the KDE incident, I would have defended the GPL,
and the FSF, if anyone spoke the slightest word against it.


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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Managing X windows
Date: 27 Feb 1999 09:42:35 -0500

Paul Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PD> I generally have alot of xwindows open during my development
PD> session and find them hard to manage.
PD> 
PD> Are there any tools available which allow you to 'tile' or
PD> 'cascade' the x windows so they are easy to manage?

This is a function of your window manager.  Recent versions of FVWM2
can do this with the FvwmRearrange module.  I'd be surprised if other
window managers (e.g. AfterStep, WindowMaker, Enlightenment) didn't
have similar functionality.

-- 
David Maze             [EMAIL PROTECTED]          http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc Netscape 4.5 dies when encounters java
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:30:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>From my own experience, Communicator 4.5 dies for lots of reasons, not
only Java :( I had to reinstall version 4.08 to get a reliable browser.

MST

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I've downloaded Netscape 4.5 (glibc version) and installed it on my Debian 2.0
> (glibc).  Netscape 4.5 would just die when I visit any site that has java.

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From: Michael Finken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xosview with linux-2.2.2
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:19:39 +0100

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Standard User wrote:
> 
> Torsten Blank wrote:
> 
> > xosview (version 1.7.0 and version 1.6.1) doesn't work with the kernel
> > 2.2.2. It hangs, even before a window appears. Does someone know the
> > reason?
> >
> 
> Hallo !
>  I have the same problem with version 1.6.0 !
> Applying "strace xosview" I found out, that the
> program open /proc/stat and then ... nothing !
> I don't know how to work-around the problem.
> 
> Bye, Rolf
> 
> =====================================================================================
> 
> Dipl. Math. Rolf Felkel           Tel.: +49 - 6151 - 163284
> Numerical Analysis Group          Fax.: +49 - 6151 - 164424
> Department of Mathematics         email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Technical University Darmstadt    
>http://www.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de/ags/ag8/felkel
> Schlossgartenstrasse 7
> D-64289 Darmstadt
> 
> 
>=======================================================================================
try out xosview 1.7.1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane Steven Sturrock)
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:13:53 +0000

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:18:44 +0000, Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Header in the New York Times technology section for today
>
>***
>By JOHN MARKOFF 
>                                 Intel demonstrated a version of its new
>Pentium III
>                                 microprocessor that computes more than
>one billion
>                                 operations a second, the so-called
>one-gigahertz mark. 
>***
>
>That's a creative definition.

1 Ghz to achieve 1 BIP.  Big deal.  An Alpha 21164 can do 2 BIPS at 500Mhz.
Even for pure integer code I find a 500Mhz Alpha to be twice as fast as the
same clock Intel.  The new '264 processor is reputed to be twice as quick
again for the same clock although I can't confirm this yet because they
are hard to get hold of.

This whole race to achieve the highest clock speed is meaningless if the
processor in question can't do as much work per cycle as another slower
but more efficient chip.

You want real performance?  Alphas are currently being mass produced at
667Mhz.

-- 
Dr. Shane Sturrock - http://nova.bru.ed.ac.uk/~sss
Linux, a better WinNT than WinNT

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From: javierlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Looking for a cross-compiler
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:29:22 +0000

Andy Smith wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:46:14 +0000, javierlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I�m looking for a cross-compiler for C++
> >Any help will be apreciated.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >--
> >for answer leave xxx in my email
> 
> And wich platform would you like to target?
> 
> -Andy-

OpenLinux in an intel pc (pentium)

Thanks

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