Linux-Misc Digest #255, Volume #19 Mon, 1 Mar 99 23:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: glibc Netscape 4.5 dies when encounters java (Hans Wolters)
Re: does people use console or X ? (Pas Moi)
Problems with NE2000 modules (Tom Ford)
Re: Learning Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ncurses displays gibberish for root not for regular users ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (void)
Re: Console prompt and kernel 2.2.2 ("Marius Gedminas")
RADIUS server (Tod Glasgow)
Network Administrators - why is pay so low? (Marc D. Bumble)
Re: Booting from a CDROM (Gary Hodges)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Gregory L. Hansen)
Floppy drives Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why
FreeBSD?)) (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: Applix 4.4.1 feedback? (Tim Moore)
newbie! Lexmark 5700 printer...HELP! (root)
Re: Anti-Virus for Linux ("James R. Bunch")
Re: Can Linux run on NT for stability? ("Scott D. Hernalsteen")
Re: Digital Cameras (steve mcadams)
Re: Digital Cameras (steve mcadams)
[Fwd: Send me to Linux] (Richard Vosburgh)
Re: Sound card question (Le petit =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9sus?=)
Re: Sound card question (Le petit =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9sus?=)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Johan Kullstam)
Re: changing shells (Matthias Warkus)
Re: FreeAgent for Linux (Matthias Warkus)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: glibc Netscape 4.5 dies when encounters java
Date: 1 Mar 1999 17:37:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:57:57 -0600, Richard Griswold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snap]
>I've tried reinstalling Netscape from tarballs and from RPMs, and
>deleting my configuration files, but it still doesn't work. Someone I
>talked to thinks that I may have a bad library, but I'm not sure which
>one it would be. I might have upgraded something about the same time
>Netscape quit working correctly, but if I did, I don't remember what it
>was. I'm sure I could reinstall my system, but I *really* don't want to
>do that. I'd rather live with a broken Netscape than try to reconfigure
>this system from scratch.
>
>I'm running RH5.1 with the 2.0.35 kernel and XFree86 3.3.3-1. My
>processor is a PII, and my video card is a Matrox Millennium II.
>
>I'd appreciate any suggestions ..........
I've been using 4.5 since a few months now and have no troubles at all.
The problem might be the java40.class. I'm working with one of the newer
JDK's installed and don't have any problems visiting sites that use
Java/Javascript. Installing a JDK version iss no good idea but it might
explain why so many people have trouble with it.
There was an announcement on freshmeat yesterday for the newest NS (4.51).
Try it as soon as it's available. It seems that the java part has been
updated and you can even use Swing classes.
Regards Hans
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Subject: Re: does people use console or X ?
From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 22:06:42 GMT
>> "FW" =3D=3D Finnskoga W=E4rdshus wrote on Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:42:15 +0=
100:
FW> I am pretty new to this but I just wounder Does you people usually
FW> hang around in console mode or have you all instaled X?
i use the console most of the time. i just like it better. i only
use x when i work in japanese because the fonts are better, and xemacs
doesn't do japanese on the console. but use what _you_ prefer.
FW> Anoter one... If I install Xfree (X11 or wht it is called) vill I
FW> nead an extra prog ontop of that like KDE, Gnome or Windowmaker or
FW> is it the same..
yeah, you'll need a window manager at least. you don't need kde or
gnome, though. i like afterstep, but you might prefer another.
ciao,
g.y.
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Th' MIND is the Pizza Palace of th' SOUL
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From: Tom Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with NE2000 modules
Date: 01 Mar 1999 21:56:34 +0000
Greetings,
I'm having some trouble using my new ISA Ethernet card. I'm running 2.2.1
with NE2000 (ISA) compiled as module. However modprobe refuses to
insert it; insmod 8390.o is fine, but when I insmod ne.o I get a seg
fault, regardless of what I set io=0x00 or irq= or whatever.
Any ideas would be appreciated! Otherwise I'll be stuck using Windows
for my d/ls :( (The card works under 95)
Cheers,
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Learning Linux
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:41:57 GMT
On 28 Feb 1999 15:31:36 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I first learned linux be exploring the file system. what went where.
Then played a little with some of the commends I found ( thought lots
of them apeared to be useless util I learned how to use them.
the biggest part of learning Linux is how to configure it. Once
there, It's just like using any other command line driven system or
GUI (X) if you prefer. I thing the best part is having the choise of
command line vs gui.
>Hey,
>
>I just migrated over from that other operating system [hereinafter TOOS]
>that most people run on x86 boxes, and I find myself both thrilled and
>frustrated. Many of you are probably unaware of the brain rot that TOOS
>can cause, as the user clicks her/his life away, never having to think
>about a thing.
>
>I got into Linux primarily because I found the prospect of *learning* and
>*understanding* what was going on inside my box irresistible - but I am
>having a difficult time finding a good source of information. The Matt
>Welsh book put out by O'Reilly was really good, but a little dated. I
>also tried SAMS' 'Unleashed' book, but the writing is terrible, and too
>much of that book is 'How to do this...' I want to know how this works!
>Since I was actually raised on MS-DOS, the command-line is not totally new
>to me, and I have some background in C, just to give you an idea of where
>I'm coming from.
>
>Any suggestions? I appreciate everybody's patience with yet another
>ignorant newbie, by the way.
>
>------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ncurses displays gibberish for root not for regular users
Date: 1 Mar 1999 22:06:48 GMT
Ken Plumbly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone run accross this one?
> Any display which uses ncurses (linuxconfig, etc) prints out the display
> plus gibberish around the edges instead of the proper display characters,
> for root, but if a regular user runs the same software, the display is
> just fine, (I'm actually not sure if this is ncurses causing this or not)
> I would like to solve this as make menuconfig and linuxconfig are
> software I use often and this is driving me nuts.
an faq (look for ~root/.terminfo and remove that).
The current version of ncurses is 4.2
There's an faq at
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html
> Thanks
> Ken
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (void)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 2 Mar 1999 03:11:43 GMT
On 1 Mar 1999 23:33:32 GMT, John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>man sysctlbyname
>
>Try apropos when something doesn't match exactly.
Huh? I didn't have trouble finding the page; I was demonstrating that
sysctl lived in section 3 of the manual rather than section 2.
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
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From: "Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Console prompt and kernel 2.2.2
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:15:07 +0100
tuxer0 wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>My *console* prompt (not in X) changed from
>http://members.xoom.com/tuxer0/images/2.0.36.jpg (kernel 2.0.36) to
>http://members.xoom.com/tuxer0/images/2.2.2.jpg (kernel 2.2.2) Any1
>know why?
Looks like 2.2.x uses Latin-1 console translation table by default. I
noticed
that when setfont my-custom-font-without-unimap.psf stopped working. Just
do an echo -e \033errr... uh, I forgot. :) Unfortunately I do not have
Linux here
at work, but do `man console_codes' and you should find the required
sequence.
Best Regards
Marius Gedminas
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From: Tod Glasgow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RADIUS server
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:43:31 -0600
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Does anyone have some experience with using Linux as a RADIUS server...
I have an Ascend 6000 with two incoming PRI's and an Outgoing T1. I
need to install and configure a RADIUS server to authenticate my inbound
clients...I know unix and NT have third party programs; however I have
found little info in the Linux world. Any suggestions? :-)
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Subject: Network Administrators - why is pay so low?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Bumble)
Date: 01 Mar 1999 22:10:09 -0500
Why are Network administrators paid less than software developers?
Seems to me that possibly hundreds of developers are dependent on just
a small number of admins, and that only a few admins actually achieve
very nicely running networks, with properly configured software
systems. So how does this make sense. Shouldnt Admins get the big
$$$'s?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Hodges)
Subject: Re: Booting from a CDROM
Date: 1 Mar 1999 16:47:50 GMT
I use mkisofs to make an iso image which I then write to CD on a Win95
machine. There is a option where you give the path to your boot image file,
e.g. boot.img. Then set your bios to boot from a CD and your off.
Gary
Philip Rademakers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: I would like to boot linux from a self made CDROM.
: Currently, I have a boot scheme that uses 2 floppies. The first contains
: the kernel, the second a compressed ram disk image. This works fine,
: even when the floppies are write protected.
: I would like this to work from a CDROM though ... but I cannot figure
: out how to make it work (I found some pointers to make bootable CDs but
: they all seem to boot DOS ...).
: Does anybody know hot to make linux boot from a CD using as root
: filesystem a compressed ram disk image?
: Thanks for any help,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory L. Hansen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 2 Mar 1999 03:20:46 GMT
>>> "RSS" == Robert S Sciuk wrote on Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:56:34 -0500:
>
>RSS> Stallman's vision is slightly myopic with respect to the forces
>RSS> which drive innovation. I respect his/your/anyone's right to
>RSS> give away whatever they like, but the GPL is akin to the
>RSS> Bolshevik forced collectivization at the turn of the century
>RSS> ... it takes away others rights to derive proprietary products.
>RSS> That is something to which I cannot subscribe.
Rights? What "rights" to derive proprietary products? Since when did
anyone have the RIGHT to derive proprietary products from any licensed
code? You may get permission to derive proprietary products. You might
have to ask, and pay money, to get permission, and permission may be
denied. The GPL tells you under what conditions you are allowed to derive
proprietary works. The BSD license is more liberal -- if you use any
BSD-licensed code, be sure to thank the authors for doing you the favor.
But no, you do not have the "right" to derive proprietary products from
whatever code you find laying around. No more than others have the right
to copy and distribute your proprietary product without permission.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Floppy drives Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why
FreeBSD?))
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 03:33:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
|It's most if not virtually all of the hardware: which PC has a floppy
|drive without the big "eject me" button? Which Sun has a floppy drive
|WITH such a button?
A Sun Ultra 5.
On such a computer, you have to do "volcheck" after inserting a floppy.
If you manually eject the floppy while it is mounted, it will ask you
to put it back in if you try to use its filesystems. If you say "eject
floppy" it removes it from the mount tables and then tells you that you
can manually eject it.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:02:05 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Applix 4.4.1 feedback?
> I saw Applix 4.4.1 Office Suite US$99 now enhanced enabled import/export
> MS Office 97 files, e.g., Word97, Excel97, etc. Is this Applix 4.4.1
> good enough comparable to MS Office 97 or Corel Office Suite 8.0?
I use 4.4.1 + enhanced filters, et al. Import is good on simple documents,
more complex ones loose font and spacing information, or loop endlessly
lost in a filter.
Export for word97 is limited to rtf. In general import is better than
export.
Working order: Excel, Word then Powerpoint. Check out www.stardivision.com
or starnews.stardivision.de first.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie! Lexmark 5700 printer...HELP!
Date: 2 Mar 1999 03:37:56 GMT
I have a Lexmark 5700 printer and I'm trying to set it up under Linux. I
tried to set it up as a text only printer but it won't print at all. Can
anyone tell me how to set this up correctly? (I mean set it up as a good
graphics printing printer under Linux)?
I've installed RH 5.1 in my Pentium-350. Please help.
Thanks
Kaushik
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From: "James R. Bunch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus for Linux
Date: 1 Mar 1999 22:46:29 GMT
Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 27 Feb 1999, James R. Bunch wrote:
: > On Intel platforms you still have to be carefull of BSI's since they get
: > to the machine _before_ the OS loads. They can do a good job of clobbering
: > lilo. Probably the highest risk systems are those that dual-boot linux and
: > DOS/WinXX.
: how exactly do the get to the boot sector before linux boots ???
: or did you mean dual-boot systems are the only ones at risk ???
Richard's right on here. The infection in the floppy boot sector gets
to the HD boot sector before the OS takes control.
One other possibility is running an infected file under dosemu. Could
easily infect all the DOS executables it sees. I don't know if a very
permissive dosemu configuration could allow a dropper to get to the MBR.
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From: "Scott D. Hernalsteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux run on NT for stability?
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 22:48:04 -0500
Alex Butcher wrote:
>
> On 26 Feb 1999 12:15:49 -0800, moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have found my NT server very reliable, and want to run Linux on it. Is this
> >possible? I know some people say Linux is stable, but I don't want to take a
> >chance.
> >
> >moi
>
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!
>
> Nice troll.
> --
> Alex Butcher Using Linux since '95 - because windows are too easy to break.
> Berkshire, UK URLBLAST:slashdot.org:www.freshmeat.net:www.dejanews.com:
> lwn.net:www.tomshardware.com:www.stardiv.de:www.gimp.org:
Wouldn't it more appropriate to run NT on *Linux* for stability! ;)
--Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:03:40 GMT
[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Cough, cough", ahh well, I don't own a digital camera yet. I came close
>to buying an Agfa from the list that I saw advertised on buycomp for about
>$250 (I'm thinking of playing around with stop action animation), but backed
>off.
You did good. I highly recommend that you NOT buy from buycomp.com
because my experience is that their web-site is a disaster, you won't
know for sure whether your order has gone into the system ok or not,
it is a nightmare. imho.
> I was only going to buy a camera from the list but decided to
>hold off on buying period till I was really ready since the technology is
>moving so rapidly.
You did good again <g> I have a Leica Digilux (same as Fuji MX700)
and it does an excellent job of what I bought it for. But it's not a
pro-quality camera (only 1240x1024 resolution) it's a pocket-cam. The
pro stuff is coming down in price fairly quickly. But at this point
the one I really want is vastly out of my price range (about $15k) so
I bought the Leica which will do 90% of what I want to do and 100% of
what I need to do for a small portion of that price. Camera quality
is going to triple within the next two years is my guess.
Suggest you drop by rec.photo.digital for lots of conversations,
debates, and owner-experiences before buying. -steve
____________________________________________________________________________________
"The meaning of life is of dubious value..." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:03:41 GMT
[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
"Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.hardware The Infernal One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Does anyone either know or have good source information on
>: which digital cameras support linux? TIA.
>
>The Sony Mavica line of digital cameras. All images are stored on a
>floppy. Thus any OS (including Linux) that can read a floppy with an
>MS-DOS filesystem on it can use it.
Depending on what recording media the camera of choice takes, there
may be other alternatives. For SmartCard cameras, Fuji makes a
floppy-disk adapter. You slip the SmartCard into it, then put it in
the floppy drive and read off its file system. As I recall it's about
$150 retail. Works nicely on NT and 95, I haven't tried it on Linux
but a dos partition is pretty much a dos partition.
____________________________________________________________________________________
"The meaning of life is of dubious value..." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: [Fwd: Send me to Linux]
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:27:37 -0600
======== Original Message ========
Subject: Send me to Linux
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:10:09 -0600
From: Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: Posted via RemarQ Communities, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.caldera
I understand Linux OS is available at no cost. Please point me in the
right direction to download the latest version. If I'm mistaken, about
the no cost availability, let me know; where to go for downloads and
who's version is best (i.e. Caldera, Redhat, etc.).
Thanks in advance for your help and Best Regards,
Rich
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From: Le petit =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9sus?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Sound card question
Date: 1 Mar 1999 21:47:03 -0600
"teknokr@t" wrote:
>
> Marc Hering wrote:
>
> > http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
> >
> > Download oss demo and install it,,,if it works then buy it, I usually don't
> > reccommend throwing money at a problem to solve it,,for for $20, OSS is
> > worth it's weight in gold for configuring sound cards :) got my ad1816a
> > noname sound card working no probs
> >
> > "teknokr@t" wrote:
> >
> > > I set up my sound card with following lines in my /etc/conf.modules
> > > files:
> > > alias sound cs4232
> > > options -k cs4232 io=0x260 irq=10 dma=0,1
> > > alias midi opl3
> > > options -k opl3 io=0x388
> > >
> > > This gives me the following message at bootup
> > >
> > > ad1848/cs4248 codec driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> > > ad1848 detect error - step A (ff)
> > >
> > > mpu401.c: I/O port 260 already in use
> > >
> > > YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft
> > > 1993-1996
> > >
> > > Now, most of the time the soundcard works fine but on occasion the
> > > bootup process
> > > freezes after diplaying the detect error line. Does anyone know why and
> > > what the error means?
> > > Also how do I get mpu401.c to use a different I/O port?
> > >
> > > thanks
>
> I'm a bit confused here. I thought linux already came with OSS support.
> Can someone explain what drivers linux is using?
>
> thanks
It sort of works with the older kernel, with the new kernel it works like shit.
I thinks it is a cripple version of OSS. I tried the demo of OSS that works
for 20 minutes and the sound works OK so it seems. Even the midi plugin work with
it. I have an ESS1869 card. I am investigating the Open Sound stuff to see if I
can get it to work before I spend $20 per computer for OSS.
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From: Le petit =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9sus?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: Sound card question
Date: 1 Mar 1999 21:51:10 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
> > >
> > > Download oss demo and install it,,,if it works then buy it, I usually don't
> > > reccommend throwing money at a problem to solve it,,for for $20, OSS is
> > > worth it's weight in gold for configuring sound cards :) got my ad1816a
> > > noname sound card working no probs
>
> Also consider the completely alternative soundcard drivers at
> http://alsa.jcu.cz which are (for the most part) OSS compatible
> and have a number of advantages:
> [1] The documentation is better, both of the API and the source code
> [2] Completely GPL
> [3] You get a user library that handles all of the ioctl() calls for you.
> [4] The buffering system is better thought out and may give better performance.
>
> There are some disadvantages too:
> [1] The author is trying to write a system that is totally future proof and
> so has made things more complex than OSS in order to ensure that every
> eventuality is covered (some would think this an advantage but I'm sure
> that it could be trimmed down a lot).
> [2] Less people use it so it is harder to find someone to help if something
> won't work.
>
> > I'm a bit confused here. I thought linux already came with OSS support.
> > Can someone explain what drivers linux is using?
>
> Briefly, the original sound system for Linux was OSS which was originally
> completely GPL. Then the OSS split and released a non-free version with
> extra features and a free version which was bundled with the Linux kernel.
> Then independent development modified the free version as kernel development
> continued so that the current 2.2.2 kernels use an almost-OSS system.
>
... modified it to make it useless for recording. It plays OK except for the
midi plugins on netscape which don't work anymore.
> The ALSA system was a parallel sideline that has had some small influence
> on the development of the kernel. With the latest kernels, ALSA just uses
> the standard module interface and you can load ALSA modules without
> recompiling anything in the kernel. You can even use the OSS module for a
> while then pull that out and load up the ALSA module without rebooting.
>
I tried Alsa but I get a device busy on boot. My card is an ES1869.
The 20 OSS demo that lasts 20 minutes works good with the same hardware.
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Mar 1999 23:04:31 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion) writes:
> In article <7begp2$1gi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Richard E. Hawkins Esq. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>I've typically seen it $100US, vs $100A ('strine), or $100CDN.
> > ^^^^^^
>
> >Which, according to something I read years ago, would be redundant.
>
> So how would you distingiush 100 Canadian dollars from 100
> Australian dollars or 100 United States dollars.
i have often seen `USD' used for united states dollars.
> >I can't back this up aat the moment (and it may be wrong, too :),
> >but my understanding is that the $ sign came from the superimposed
> >U and S (I forget what happned to the bottom part of the U).
>
> That would be all well and good if there were only one dollar on
> this planet, but times change.
i have no idea why others would copy a symbol obviously composed from
the letter U and S, unless their country also had these very same
initials.
it would be better if all the copy cats got their own symbol! ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: changing shells
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:54:36 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:40:49 -0000...
..and Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, if changing the shell for root, ensure the shell is on the root
> filesystem, just in case you have file system corruption.
Not only in that case. Actually, init needs sh even before it starts
to mount filesystems. Without a working /bin/sh on the root file
system, you are seriously f*cked.
mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: FreeAgent for Linux
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:56:57 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:35:51 -0600...
..and Monte Milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[newsreaders]
> Are you saying GUI based, or CLI?
Actually, lots of the character-based newsreaders actually are GUI.
They use a character-based GUI. Take a look at slrn. It's not exactly
what I'd call a command-line-controlled application, and it's very
pretty. Yes, it hasn't got pull-down menus, but it works well without.
mawa
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50.000-Zeilen-Skripte zur Steuerung von Bohrinseln zu programmieren).
-- Sriram Srinivasan, _Fortgeschrittene_Perl-Programmierung_
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