Linux-Misc Digest #255, Volume #26                Tue, 7 Nov 00 05:13:02 EST

Contents:
  network slow in linux, fast in win... (Matt Warnock)
  Looking for LyX-like spreadsheet ("Morten Skaarup Jensen")
  Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: network slow in linux, fast in win... ("William Fong")
  Re: kernel 2.3.99-pre9 compile problem (muzh)
  Re: Linux/UNIX=Windows ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: redirecting mail already delvered to the spool? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  How to get pwd in $ or # prompt? (Victor Dods)
  Re: help with apache on redhat linux (Markus =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6hmer?=)
  Re: network slow in linux, fast in win... (Rob Kroll)
  Re: LINUX utility to change IRQ on 3C509 (Mogens Kjaer)
  Re: Linux/UNIX=Windows (Peter)
  Re: Beowulf cluster ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LINUX utility to change IRQ on 3C509 (Stefan Silberstein)
  Install Linux on Acer TravelMate 350 ("Paul Man")
  Re: How to get pwd in $ or # prompt? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  automatically loading modules after upgrading from kernel 2.2.17 to 2.4.0-test10 
("Simon Oosthoek")
  KDE rpms - distro (Alessandro Magni)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Matt Warnock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: network slow in linux, fast in win...
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:25:16 -0500

I run mandrake 7.2 w/ a linksys NE2000 network card.  my network is
very fast in windows, but when im in linux, it starts fast, then just
stops, sometimes it keeps moving, but evenutally stops after a few
seconds.  I've ran RH, slackware, and Mandrake, i've use the kernel
that comes w/ each dist, i've compiled a new one.  Same results
everytime.  I'm on a school network.  the local campus has NT servers,
but the main servers, to the net, are UNIX.  People in my building use
same distros w/ no problems.  any suggustions?

------------------------------

From: "Morten Skaarup Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for LyX-like spreadsheet
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:36:52 +0100

I'm looking for a spreadsheet that saves its complete output in an ASCII
file. A program like LyX is a brilliant example of the kind of functionality
I like. It has a powerful graphical user interface, but if ever I want to
edit the file
directly (simply because this would involve less keystrokes & mouse clicks)
then I'm free to do so at my own risk. Another advantage of saving as an
ASCII file is that it works better with CVS (e.g. I can diff two versions).

I hope you can help

Morten






------------------------------

From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communication Server like Exchange on Linux?
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:04:05 -0500

Weber wrote:
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> does anyone know a stable running free program for linux
> that is comparable to exchange server?
> I mean not only eMail, but also meetings, scheduling and so on...
> 
> Also a Web based Solution is great welcome.
> 
> Thanks for any hints

Lotus Domino (Lotus Notes server)

-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

------------------------------

From: "William Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network slow in linux, fast in win...
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 07:45:56 GMT

Sorry, can't help... but I have the exact opposite problem.  My network runs
so much faster in Linux than in Windows...  Not with an NE2000 card
though...


-will

--

______________________________
William Fong - www.digitaldev.com

"Matt Warnock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I run mandrake 7.2 w/ a linksys NE2000 network card.  my network is
> very fast in windows, but when im in linux, it starts fast, then just
> stops, sometimes it keeps moving, but evenutally stops after a few
> seconds.  I've ran RH, slackware, and Mandrake, i've use the kernel
> that comes w/ each dist, i've compiled a new one.  Same results
> everytime.  I'm on a school network.  the local campus has NT servers,
> but the main servers, to the net, are UNIX.  People in my building use
> same distros w/ no problems.  any suggustions?



------------------------------

From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.3.99-pre9 compile problem
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:09:26 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sounds like a corrupt file.
You may have to download it again -- :(

roundman wrote:

>  I am trying to compile the above kernel on a RedHat 7.0 system with all
> updates installed, and received the following errors:
> 
> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.3.99/arch/i386/lib'
> gcc -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -traditional -c
> checksum.S -o checksum.o
> checksum.S:238: badly punctuated parameter list in #define
> checksum.S:244: badly punctuated parameter list in #define
> make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.3.99/arch/i386/lib'
> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.3.99/arch/i386/lib'
> make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2
> 
> 
> What do I need to do to fix this?
> 
> Bob Full
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

-- 
Never trust a man in a suit

cll


------------------------------

From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/UNIX=Windows
Date: 6 Nov 2000 23:13:32 GMT

Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:30:10 -0700, "Steve Wolfe"
: I am about to try RH 7. Of all the distros, I found RH the most obtuse
: to install and Mandrake the most helpful. Some of the other distros,
: like Debian, have definite advantages but are not up to date. I would

The latter statement is absolute nonsense, and in any case, not a good
thing! Being "up to date" means being used as a beta test and having 
all the worlds bugs heaped on you. No responsible admin would think
of taking the last version of anything unless they were actively
participating in its development or trying to be fired. 

(your stance is understandable - horses for courses).

Peter

------------------------------

From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redirecting mail already delvered to the spool?
Date: 6 Nov 2000 23:59:07 GMT

Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Recently our mail server crashed and I set up an alternative one. I now 
: have the original one back up and would like to send the mail that is 
: stuck in /var/spool/mail files over to the new machine. I cannot copy it 
: over as the new machine has an active mail spools. I guess merging the 2 
: sets of spool files is possible, but a lot of work - was are talking 100 
: users. Any ideas? We are using sendmail (v8) feeding into procmail.

This is a simple script. I used to have to do it often when I was
running twinned failover mailservers. Lemesee, something along these
lines:

  killall sendmail
  mount remote:spool nearby
  for each user in local/spool; do
    touch $user.lock
    cat nearby/$user >> $user
    rm -f $user.lock
  done
  restart sendmail


(thass pseudocode, by the way). You don't have to stop sendmail either,
if you're careful with the lock files, i.e. you only make the lock
when it doesn't exist and you do it atomically when you do it, and
wait when you don't.


ONLY 100 users? I have thousands.

Peter

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:25:52 -0800
From: Victor Dods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to get pwd in $ or # prompt?

I just installed Redhat 7.0, and discovered that the command-line prompt
contains only the name of the immediate present directory, and not the
entire path.  Its been quite a while since I've used commands like that,
and I was wondering what the command to do that is.

Thanks

Victor Dods

------------------------------

From: Markus =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6hmer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with apache on redhat linux
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:34:05 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> i find that my http server died. there were no processes for httpd
> under the list of processes.
> i tried to run the httpd daemon itself /usr/sbin/httpd but i got the
> following error.....
> 
>        httpd: Cannot determine local host name
>        Use the ServerName directive to set it manually
> 
> but do a hostname (comand hostname) it gives the host name fine
> 
> next, I rebooted the system, the httpd daemon started up on box
> reboot.
> please let me know as to what went wrong and what does the error
> message above mean ? (use ServerName directive to set it manually)
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
ServerName is an directive in the file httpd.conf which is I guess in
the /etc or /etc/httpd directory.
It's a configuration command for the apache.
-- 
Markus Boehmer
Systemadministrator & Datenbankentwickler
SSI Schaefer Shop GmbH
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network slow in linux, fast in win...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Kroll)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:40:18 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Warnock) wrote in 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>I run mandrake 7.2 w/ a linksys NE2000 network card.  my network is
>very fast in windows, but when im in linux, it starts fast, then just
>stops, sometimes it keeps moving, but evenutally stops after a few
>seconds.  I've ran RH, slackware, and Mandrake, i've use the kernel
>that comes w/ each dist, i've compiled a new one.  Same results
>everytime.  I'm on a school network.  the local campus has NT servers,
>but the main servers, to the net, are UNIX.  People in my building use
>same distros w/ no problems.  any suggustions?


"Linksys" NE2000? Isn't the NE2000 card made by Novell? Perhaps you mean 
NE2000 compatible?

Doesn't matter. You've got the latest drivers for the card? Are you using a 
PCI or an ISA card? Are you using PnP/dynamically assigned resources, or 
statically assigned resources? (Despite what you may have heard, most 
BIOS's will allow you to reserve IRQ's and I/O addresses for specific PCI 
slots.)

I've got the exact opposite: my 'net runs faster under Linux than under 
Windows. I'm pretty sure it is because of the MaxMTU setting, which under 
windows is currently 1500, while under Linux it is 1492. (Configured by the 
PPPoE software.) I'm too lazy to go into Windows registry, because the 
Windows really is just a dummy box to test the connection under a different 
O/S should my ISP demand it. Believe it or not, they actually support 
Linux. Well, RedHat and Corel. But it's a start :)


If it interests you, my current configuration is:
Cyrix 6x86 166+ (at 133MHz), 64MB RAM.
2* ISA Novell NE2000 cards. Statically set up for resources. IOW, no 
modprobe. I set the resource demands myself, and know what each card is.

Your problem could be because of the Plug 'n' Pray nature of Windows. In my 
experience, it is better at dealing with PnP cards that take on a different 
I/O and IRQ at every boot. My suggestion would be to go into your BIOS and 
reserve an address for your NIC, and then in your /etc/conf.modules file 
include the line:
options ne io=0x300 irq=10
(For example).


HTH


-- 
-RK
rkroll (at) ottawa (dot) com
do not reply by e-mail without changing the address.
otherwise, root on your smtp server will get the e-mail
instead of me. just my way of stopping spam.

------------------------------

From: Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LINUX utility to change IRQ on 3C509
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:41:24 +0100

Stefan Silberstein wrote:

> The problem is, that 3com provides a *.exe file that has to be extracted. I
> can�t extract them with only a Win95-bootdisk.
> Hope the link helps me, too.

Can you extract the .exe file (e.g. with lha in Linux), and copy the
extracted executable to the win95 boot disk?

Mogens
-- 
Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg Laboratory, Dept. of Chemistry
Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk

------------------------------

From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/UNIX=Windows
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:01:17 GMT

On 7 Nov 2000 03:12:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
wrote:

. 
. 
>> Hard disks remain unchanged after 30 years.
>
>???!  OK, so vast improvements in capacity, size, price, and transfer
>speed are enhancements rather than radical changes.  OK, so things like
>SMART and GMR heads aren't that visible to the end-user.  OK, so maybe
>you don't like the idea of hot-pluggable FireWire 30-giggers.  *I* think
>they've changed a lot.

The sector size has not increased in proportion to file sizes. There
are no multiple parallel heads to get single disks running at max
channel speed. The general improvements fail to keep up with
performance demands. RAID temporarily bridged the gap for servers. IDE
RAID bridges the gap for workstations. We cannot continue to drop the
size and price of workstations until single disks make a huge leap in
performance.

. 
. 
>>The mass market, the user of the future, works at about the level of
>>PHP/Visual Basic/Excel macros so will not be able to resort to reading
>>C code. 
>
><semi-rant>
>"User of the future" my left hind buttock.  Anyone in the business of
>education will tell you that if you treat kids (users) like they're
>stupid, most of them will act stupid.  If you treat them like they're
>smart and capable of learning things, most of them will do so.  A
>computer is a very complex device, and most people (myself included) are
>incapable of using it to its true potential--but the least that can be
>done is to show people that the potential is *there*.
></semi-rant>
>
Electronic  spreadsheets sold more computers than any compiler. There
was a stage when 75% of the world's programmers were people writing
Visicalc and Excel macros. Today there are more people learning
JavaScript than C. I expect in the future a scripting language simpler
than PHP will supplant JavaScript, Perl, Visual Basic for Word and
Excel as the common language behind any application that displays
data.


>OK, I'll bite.  What in the seven hecks is Diskeeper or Raxco supposed
>to do?  du and df do a great job of showing me which directories and
>filesystems are filling up, and tar/bzip2, rm, and rpm -e are very nice
>for saving space or getting rid of stuff.  There are graphical
>interfaces for these tools--I'm just old-school enough to like the
>command line better.

Thanks for the tip. When I run up RH 7, I will look for the graphical
versions.

>
>>I do not need the GUI apps but find them many times faster so will
>>stick with NT Workstation until the right set of apps are Gnomed.
>
>Whatever floats your boat.  If you want to speed up the process of
>getting the right set of apps going, check Sourceforge and see if
>there's a worthy project or 2 that could use help.  Documentation,
>artwork, and ordinary user testing are just as important as coding, so
>don't feel you have nothing to contribute.
I contribute to some apps via the documentation annotation facilities
at the developer's web sites. Not many 

I tried reading the source code for one app but ran aground because of
the nested C style includes and my lack of knowledge thereof. Some
products seem overly complicated in structure and I do not have time
to learn C.

I will stick to testing, tutorials and doc.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Beowulf cluster
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:48:37 GMT

Thanks,

Both links are interesting, the beowulf-dist seemed very easy to say
the least ;-) I'm not complaining.

Fredrik

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:54:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is there an "easy"-to-follow guide to setup a Beowulf cluster.
> >It's only ment as a try n' error setup.
> >What I mean is that when I looked at www.beowulf.org there were a lot
> >of information but not a consistent guide.
> >It was more like, "here is a little part of the whole soloution, you
> >configure it like this and the rest you have to find somewere else."
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
>
> Buy O'Reilly's Building Linux Clusters, by David Spector. Pretty darn
nice.
> You can read my review at:
> http://www.32bitsonline.com/article.php3?
file=issues/200009/clusterbook&page=1
>
> Regards, Dustin
>
> --
> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

------------------------------

From: Stefan Silberstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LINUX utility to change IRQ on 3C509
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:54:08 +0100



Mogens Kjaer wrote:

> Stefan Silberstein wrote:
>
> > The problem is, that 3com provides a *.exe file that has to be extracted. I
> > can�t extract them with only a Win95-bootdisk.
> > Hope the link helps me, too.
>
> Can you extract the .exe file (e.g. with lha in Linux), and copy the
> extracted executable to the win95 boot disk?
>
> Mogens
> --
> Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg Laboratory, Dept. of Chemistry
> Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
> Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk

I didn�t thought that the exe-file could be compressed with lha, so I didn�t try
it yet. I will give it a shot and let you know if I succeed.
But I mean to know, that my 3c509 hasn�t got this plug and pray  function at all,
because it is a 3c509 w/out a "b" (But perhaps I simply don�t know enough about
this networking stuff.)

Bye
Stefan


------------------------------

From: "Paul Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Install Linux on Acer TravelMate 350
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:04:03 +0800

Did any body try to install Linux on the new Acer notebook TravelMate 350?

Paul



------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to get pwd in $ or # prompt?
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:09:27 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:25:52 -0800, Victor Dods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I just installed Redhat 7.0, and discovered that the command-line prompt
>contains only the name of the immediate present directory, and not the
>entire path.  Its been quite a while since I've used commands like that,
>and I was wondering what the command to do that is.

put this in your .bashrc or in your /etc/profile:

PS1 = "\u@\h:\w > "

it will generate a prompt like this:

username@machine:/currentdir >

adjust to your needs.


--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

------------------------------

From: "Simon Oosthoek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: automatically loading modules after upgrading from kernel 2.2.17 to 
2.4.0-test10
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:23:32 +0100

Hi

sorry for the long subjectline ;-)

I'm running linux mandrake 7.1 and I want to try out a new kernel
(because of the included differentiated services support). The kernel
compiles and boots well, the "tc" tool from iproute2 works as expected,
so I'm reasonably happy, but the modules aren't loading automatically, as
they do with 2.2.17... :-(

I've upgraded all the tools as described in the kernel changes document,
and I did that by using mandrake packages, so theoretically this should
be ok.

But after booting, no modules are loaded at all. modprobe works fine, I
can manually load the required modules (e.g. es1371 so I can listen to
mp3 music ;-)

I'd hate to go back to creating a script to load the necessary modules...
any ideas?

TIA

Simon

------------------------------

From: Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE rpms - distro
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:42:16 +0100

I was waiting sad that the KDE2.0 RPMs for RedHat6.1 to appear,
when I wondered:
is there really a big difference if I use RPMs by other distros?
After all, when I download RPMs from Rufus, if there isnt a RH6.1 RPM,
the others work, all the time!

I'd be glad to hear your opinion

Thanks

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
\  Dr.Alessandro Magni
/                               IEN Galileo Ferraris
\                               c.M.d'Azeglio 42, 10125 Torino (ITALIA)
/                               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\                               Fax (39)11-6507611
/                               Tel (39)11-3919757
\                               Homepage at:
http://www.ien.it/~magni/index.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************

Reply via email to