Linux-Misc Digest #285, Volume #19                Wed, 3 Mar 99 18:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: Public license question (David Kastrup)
  Re: File trusty varied by cp in crontab ? ("Michael Lee Yohe")
  Re: Is linux 64-bit ready already? ("Michael Lee Yohe")
  Re: Memory Monitoring ("Michael Lee Yohe")
  Re: Starting X at boot (John Hasler)
  Re: More bad news for NT (W Canaday)
  Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux] (Eugene O'Neil)
  Re: StarDivision StarOffice Comments? (W Canaday)
  Re: AOL Instant Messanger (Bill Mitchell)
  Playstation 2 games to be developed on Linux ("Galley")
  Re: best offline newsreader? (Micha� Kuratczyk)
  Re: looking for openGL, or Mesa... (Jim Liedeka)
  Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX (Alexander Viro)
  Re: Windows 98 and System Resources (Mark Morgan)
  Re: RHL5.2 and lsof (David Kirkpatrick)
  Re: newbie! Lexmark 5700 printer...HELP! (Rob O'Connell)
  Re: accidentally deleted /etc/modules ("David Z. Maze")
  Re: Installation problem with IDE CDROM drive (Geoff Allsup)
  Re: running executables from cdrom? ("Francois.Lemaire")

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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 03 Mar 1999 21:48:22 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Armstrong) writes:

> In article <7bjoj9$a42$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Mark Mokryn  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Since I'm sure Oracle links to *something* GPL'ed, some standard library,
> >perhaps #included some GPL'ed header file and use its macros, etc., then I
> >would expect anyday now to download Oracle source code... Certainly Microsoft
> >would *love* this...
> >
> 
> furrfu. Do you have *any* evidence for this, or are you just trolling?

The latter.  The standard libraries are not GPLed, but LGPLed.  Apart
from which I doubt that he has more of a clue than the Oracle
developers and lawyers.


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Reply-To: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File trusty varied by cp in crontab ?
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 02:02:59 -0600


>[wong@gpus1]$ ls -l test*
>-rw-rw-r--   1 wong     wong           95 Mar  1 09:56 test
>-rw-rw-r--   1 wong     wong           95 Mar  3 11:44 test.old
>[wong@gpus1]$

I think this is due to the inherent nature of how crontab handles UMASK.

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Reply-To: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is linux 64-bit ready already?
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 02:10:10 -0600

>I posted to sci.math.symbolic with this question and learned the following.
If you
>install Red Hat linux 4.2 on an alpha system, and then install MapleV for
linux
>it appears to be 64 bit (visit http://130.15.26.62/NewDemo/frame.html to
see
>examples of tensor calculations in General Relativity that were carried out
in this
>fashion).  In fact, if you give the Maple command
>   > kernelopts(wordsize)
>it will kick back 64 (as opposed to 32 on a intel box).
>
>What's darn strange is that, as far as I can tell, the binary distribution
of MapleV
>for linux is the same for both alpha and i386 platforms.

I wouldn't say that it is the "same" to speak.  I would guess that they are
from the exact same source code (with subtle differences).  The compiler
itself (GCC/EGCS for Alpha) will differentiate the %ld (or long) to 64-bits
and the %d (int) to 32-bits on the Alpha, as opposed to the x86 GCC/EGCS
which will consider both long and int 32-bits.

There are packages out there for the x86 that exercise the spliced-bit
theorem (something like that) that will segment two 32-bit registers to
emulate a 64-bit floating point register.

Cool stuff.

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Reply-To: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory Monitoring
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 02:05:58 -0600

>Are there any graphical tools to monitor memory usage on Linux in realtime?

There is a utility that comes with the procinfo package (I think) for X that
shows CPU/memory/etc in realtime.

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:48:54 GMT

Nick Brown writes:
> Now I've changed my mind (of course) - where do I add XDM ?

Edit /etc/X11/config and change "no-start-xdm" to "start-xdm".
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From: W Canaday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:30:31 +0000

I feel really, really bad about Linux locking up for you. I can't seem to
duplicate that on my machine. Perhaps you could tell me how you manage to do
this ... apparently I am not the only other person who can not do it and I am
sure the others would want to know how it's done.

BTW ... if I wanted a game machine I would have bought one.
Bill

Michael Powe wrote:

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>     Jon> Gregory Propf wrote in message
>     Jon> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>     >> As for Netscape locking up, you WILL find that happening under
>     >> Linux.  The difference is that bad software can't crash the
>     >> whole system under Linux like it does ALL THE DAMN TIME under
>     >> Windows.  Don't argue with me on this, I work with this garbage
>     >> every workday and I know what I'm talking about.
>
>     Jon> You again!  Man you are condescending.  You think you are the
>     Jon> only one working with this stuff everyday?  I do too.  Golly,
>     Jon> gee, perhaps we are using it for different things.  I will
>     Jon> argue, based on experience.
>
>     Jon> As for Netscape, it does lock up Linux.  I have locked up
>     Jon> Linux, not with any server apps, yet though.  Couple of DOOM
>     Jon> sessions tells me Linux is pointless as a DESKTOP.
>
> Hmm, DESKTOP != DOOM.  DESKTOP == real work.  Plenty of opportunity
> there for linux.  I know a lot of people are hot for "games on linux"
> - -- but really, you timewasters might as well stick with the
> TimeWasters(tm) OS -- Windows.
>
> mp
>
> - --
> Michael Powe                                          Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene O'Neil)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux]
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 99 20:54:49 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Send me to Linux
>Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:10:09 -0600
>From: Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Organization: Posted via RemarQ Communities, Inc.
>Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.caldera
>
>I understand Linux OS is available at no cost. Please point me in the
>right direction to download the latest version. If I'm mistaken, about
>the no cost availability, let me know; where to go for downloads and
>who's version is best (i.e. Caldera, Redhat, etc.).
>
>Thanks in advance for your help and Best Regards,
>Rich

If you are really nerdy enough to do it the hard way (and there is no doubt 
about it, installing over the net is the hard way) I would suggest debian 
Linux. It is harder to learn than Redhat, but has more powerful features. 
For instance, once you get a small core Debian installation working, you can 
set it up to automatically download and install the rest of the packages you 
want by itself. Check out www.debian.org for details.

-Eugene

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From: W Canaday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: StarDivision StarOffice Comments?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:32:47 -0500

Star Office ate my Word 97 docs just fine. Haven't tried with WP yet ... but will try 
to dig
up some old WP data files and also, for completeness sake, Ami Pro.
Bill

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently 
>scribe:
> : Hi all,
>
> : 1) Is there any Linux distribution that ships StarOffice Personal edition
> : office package with it?
>
> Yes. I think SuSE 6.0 does.
>
> : 2) Are there any other office suites to run on Linux and how do they compare
> : with StarOffice?
>
> Yes. Applixware.
> As for comparison, there's sopmething about that in PCPLUS from a couple of
> months back.
>
> I've never used Applixware, and Staroffice was far too slow to be usefull om
> my 8Meg 486.
>
> : 3) Is it possible to read/import/export MS Word, Excel and Word Perfect files
> : with StarOffice?
>
> StarOffice is touted in the adverts as being Office 97 compatible.
> Don't know about Wordperfect though.
> --
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 01:55:11 +0000
From: Bill Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messanger

Neil Zanella wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Has anyone managed to install AOL Instant Messanger for Linux?
>
> The script aim_linux.sh I downloaded somehow fails to install an executable
>
> on my Red Hat 5.2 system. Isn't that script supposed to install an executable
>
> file called /usr/local/aim/aim ?
>
> I even downloaded JDK 1.1.7 from the ftp site contrib.redhat.com but still
>
> obtained the same results. Am I missing something?
>
> I remember installing it on a Red Hat 5.0 machine. What is so different about
>
> Red Hat 5.2 ? All the script creates on my 5.2 box is a directory called
>
> aim/jre1.1.3 with some stuff but no executables in it.
>
> Thanks.

I'm running TIK which compiled and works perfectly. Get the info on it at the
Messenger site.

Bill Mitchell


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From: "Galley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Playstation 2 games to be developed on Linux
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:14:46 -0500
Reply-To: "Galley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

According to The Japanese site Gamespot it has been reported that the
PlayStation 2 will use the operating environment of Linux for development!
As Linux prepares to host its first huge convention this week at Linux
World, this is huge news and pits Dreamcast with Windows against PlayStation
with Linux. Gamespot also revealed that the specs for the CPU have been
bumped up from the 250Mhz announced at the IEEE conference to 300Mhz. PSX
Nation will have much more tomorrow and throughout the week

More Playstaion 2 details can be found at http://psx.ign.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Micha� Kuratczyk)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 07:52:18 GMT

Kevin & Chelby Geiss wrote:
>Please tell me there is something as good for linux!!!
I use slrnpull to fetch news, and slrn to read. This is very comfortable
way to read news off-line.

-- 
Micha� Kuratczyk


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From: Jim Liedeka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for openGL, or Mesa...
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 22:09:16 +0000

> I'm developping a RPG game in 3D, and I want to use openGL, or Mesa, but
> I don't know where to find the necessary libraries and tutorials.( I
> have look for those on the Web, trough yahoo, altavista or metacrawler,
> but my search was a loss of time :-( )
> 
> Could you help me please.

The URL for the Mesa site is :
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~brianp/Mesa.html

-- 
In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable.
Then how come people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX
Date: 3 Mar 1999 15:41:49 -0500

In article <7bk28p$q9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T. William Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: anyway. In the worst case - mkdir /usr/ucb and there we go ;-/
>
>Still gotta have appropriate driver support....

<cringe> If it will come to conditional symlinks - I'm pass. I *will* *not*
hack this darn bogosity into any of the kernels in question. Changing majors
in critical places might be enough, though. Or remapping them in
ext2_read_inode(). Damn. Damn. I don't have the source at hand and I don't
remember whether ext2 can store 32-bit dev_t values. *That* may be serious.
Hmm... OTOH Linux perfectly can live on UFS... OK, I'll look into devfs code
on FreeBSD side. That may solve the problem. That, or minimal stuff in /dev
with loopback mounting UFS image over it early in boot process.

>:       EXT2FS is enough. Isn't Handbook useful? ;-) See also (referenced
>: from the Handbook) Linux+FreeBSD mini-HOWTO (on sunsite^Wmetalab.unc.edu
>: in /pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/).
>
>I gotta remind my guy to use the handbook....his introduction to
>FreeBSD was along the lines of "Here, boot this disk and I'll go
>through the install with you". So he's missed some of the
>"learning experiences" that are essential to being an effective
>admin. Time to remedy that....

Ahem... That's the danger of easy-to-use installs. I love Debian and FreeBSD
ones, but anybody going to do admin stuff should go through DIY (and bunch of
assorted fsckups) at least once. *Before* they will happen by themselves.
Slackware used to be excellent one on the Linux side. Or HP-SUX upgrade
<shudder> Or transition from SunOS 4.x to Slowlartus (arguably fsckup in
itself...)

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Morgan)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.misc,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Windows 98 and System Resources
Date: 3 Mar 1999 13:43:54 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Kircher  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    I believe our current record for uptime was in excess of 90 days, and we
>rebooted the system at that point voluntarily for a kernel upgrade.  Bragging
>rights, anyone?

Just the systems that have the longest and shortest uptimes.
NT 4.0 SP3: 17 days
       Fairly trouble free, but I only use it for corporate
       purposes. (Outlook Exchange, MS Word, bleh)
Linux 2.0.28 - 2.0.36 : 39 - 270 days.
        No crashes on any of them, but some have had some kernel upgrades.
        And of course when you lose power for longer than your UPS...
Solaris 2.4 - 2.6: No crashes but they've been moved around the most
                   so the best is 91 days. (Sparc & x86)
HP-UX 10.20: More nomadic machines.  40 days is the best.
NCR 3.02: 91 days
AIX 4.3: Another 91 days. (Can you tell they were all moved at once...)
BSD: 265 days; Just one of these.

Linux I've had some weird network problems, but it was the corporate network
no cooperating.  (No crashes, just some lost connections.)  I did have a
problem with Acrobat reader 3.0.  I had left it on overnight and it looks
like it has a memory leak.  I couldn't start any new processes and the
system was refusing connections. Once I killed Acrobat, it cleaned everything
up and has been fine since.  I still haven't repeated it to make sure it
really was Acrobat, but it's currently the main suspect.

Solaris I've also had some weirdness, but it's always been traced to user
error.

The other OS's I use, but don't put nearly the strain on them.

-Mark

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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RHL5.2 and lsof
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:50:23 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Neil,
   Did you do a make clean?  Looks like the System.map does not
match.  What is the lsof?
What exactly were you upgrading a package or the whole OS?  
   Its probably that lsof whatever it is was build for another
release than 5.2.  Was lsof a binary for 5.2?

Neil Zanella wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just upgraded lsof on my RHL5.2 system but things don't seem to be working:
> 
> I get the following error when I run lsof:
> 
> lsof: kernel symbol address mismatch: get_options
>       get_kernel_syms() value is 0x108d48; /boot/System.map value is
> 0x108ce0.
>       There were 384 additional mismatches.
>       /boot/System.map and the booted kernel may not be a matched set.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.

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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie! Lexmark 5700 printer...HELP!
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:31:05 -0600

i dont know much about this printer specifically - but a few general points
-
firstly make sure you are connected properly - ie something happens when
you try to print! so you know the connections are ok

reading the Printing-HOWTO in your /usr/docs/HOWTO dir is essential if you
haven't done this already.

in general, if the printer is not postscipt, then for graphics all
postscipt output from your computer is passed thru a postscipt interpreter
which writes out the native printer language - usually ghostscript (gs) is
used for linux, and you need to setup this filter

aps filter is good, but I think nowadays redhat sets it all up for you (ahh
long gone are the good old days!)

have fun - but make sure you read the printing-howto....

rob


root wrote:

> I have a Lexmark 5700 printer and I'm trying to set it up under Linux. I
> tried to set it up as a text only printer but it won't print at all. Can
> anyone tell me how to set this up correctly? (I mean set it up as a good
> graphics printing printer under Linux)?
>
> I've installed RH 5.1 in my Pentium-350. Please help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kaushik

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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accidentally deleted /etc/modules
Date: 03 Mar 1999 17:49:01 -0500

Angelo Jerod Keresztes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AJK> hello, I am running Debian 2.2

A remarkable feat, given that the Debian 2.1 release was just pushed
back to next Tuesday.  We'll assume you're either running 2.0 or 2.1.

AJK> and have the 2.2 kernel and somehow, I managed to delete my
AJK> /etc/modules file and now I can't get linux to boot up anymore
AJK> without a boot floppy.

Why not?  Are you just getting an error that the file is missing?  As
a last-ditch effort, you can recreate the file with 'touch' and/or
your favorite text editor.  The file contains a list of modules to
load at boot time, one module to a line.  'auto' and 'noauto' can
appear in the file, but these will have no effect on a machine with a
2.2 kernel.

You can also reinstall the 'modutils' package, which contains the file.

AJK> Is there a way that I can get linux to create that file
AJK> automatically, or will I just have to search and hope that I can
AJK> figure out which files belong in it?

I *think* the modconf utility can help you recreate the file.  But
you'll essentially need to know what modules need to get loaded for
your system to work well.

(FWIW, my /etc/modules is empty, save some obligatory comments, and I
arrange for everything to get loaded via kmod.  This involves some
tweaking in /etc/conf.modules and/or /etc/modutils/*, mostly so that
modprobe can find an 'eth0' module [I have it aliased to 3c509].  This 
might work for you, even if you don't have an /etc/modules.)

-- 
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"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Subject: Re: Installation problem with IDE CDROM drive
Date: 3 Mar 1999 22:43:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:23:54 +1100, Hyong J. Cho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I have trouble to install Redhat Linux on my Dell 486 machine.
>I have a double speed Creative CDROM drive with SB16. Linux seems not detect
>my CDROM drive.
>
>Checked BIOS(DELL) and could not find any CDROM information on there. Redhat
>seems to use BIOS to detect CDROM drive.
>
hmmmm, a Dell 486 is fairly old; even my Dell P90 of several years ago used
an SB-compatible interface, NOT IDE.  Try telling the install stuff that 
it's a proprietary interface (sbpcd) and see if that works...otherwise, I 
believe some types of SB interfaces at one point had their own IDE onboard,
but set to some strange IO and IRQ (separate from the sound card portion).
If it's one of these, it may be possible to put the CDROM on the 
motherboard IDE interface as the slave drive (if you only have one hard drive)
Anyway, good luck...

geoff

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From: "Francois.Lemaire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: running executables from cdrom?
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 11:35:01 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi there. I just burned my first cd. I used mkisofs to make the disk image,
> and that program gives all files root group and user ownership. That
> shouldn't be a problem, but anyway, when I mount the cd and try to run a
> program which has these permissions: '-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  root', I still get
> a Permission denied error. Does anyone know why this is the case? Thanks for
> any info. BTW, this is how I mount it (from my fstab):
>
> /dev/cdrom              /cdrom                  iso9660 noauto,ro,user  0 0
>
> thanks again. please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -David
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

Hi David

I give you the anwer for linux (don't know on other systems but may be the
same). By default, the cd-rom are mounted with option noexec. I think you have
to force exec by adding the word exec in /etc/fstab.

Bye




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