Linux-Misc Digest #285, Volume #25 Sun, 30 Jul 00 13:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? ("m.hoes")
Inittab and Cron ("Andy")
Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr? ("Michael Coulter")
Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise (John Hasler)
Re: Move Linux partition to new HD, how? (Robert Jones)
Re: Dual NICs of same type? (David Steuber)
SSH2: Authentication fails (David Steuber)
Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise (Grant Edwards)
Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr? (Carl Fink)
Re: Red Hat Linux 7.0 (Grant Edwards)
***HELP! Process cannot KILL*** (kaho)
Re: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card ("Dave Stanton")
Re: Ethernet problem ("Mike & Claudette")
Re: [Help] LILO doesn't boot from SCSI disk ("Dave Stanton")
Re: Mp3 player problems ("Dave Stanton")
Re: Console font / resolution ("ne...")
Re: ***HELP! Process cannot KILL*** (Martin Herrman)
Re: Can I delete these RPMs on my HDD? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise ('Dungeon' Dave)
Attach/remove SCSI devices without reboot (root)
Re: SSH not free. Is there alternative? (Kari Pahula)
Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise (Dances With Crows)
Re: Can I delete these RPMs on my HDD? (David Rysdam)
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From: "m.hoes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.unix,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd,comp.unix.bsd.net
Subject: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:28:47 +0200
Hi.
Currently, I am trying to learn Unix on my PC. However, I am not sure which
Unix flavour I should choose for learning this OS?
The main purpose is to learn as much of Unix as possible, without spending
(too much) money. Although I simply do not have the kind of cash to go buy a
RS/6000 and get a license for AIX, getting a semi-free thing like Solaris 8
for i86 (+/- $75 dollar) is no problem either.
I know there is no such thing as a "One Unix", and that there a lot of
differences between Unix versions, especially when it comes to
Administration. AIX uses smit, HP-UX (i believe) sysadm, and I wouldnt be
surprised if RedHat actually came with a script named 'setup' for its
general administration ;)
Still I would prefer to get a Unix version which is as 'generic' and
'true-to-unix' as possible.
'User-friendly-ness' is something which is not important. Although a lot of
the current linux-distributions come with nifty setup tools like linuxconf,
they do not actually assist in learning the OS. To illustrate my point: the
latest RedHat release easily lets you select a printer and everything runs
ok, but (ages ago) Slackware 3.0 actually forced you to hack the printcap
file to print even simple ascii files. While not very user-friendly, it DID
teach me someting about *nix printing mechanisms.
Hardware support is also not important. As long as it runs on Intel it is
ok, never mind my Voodoo card or USB port.
Good documentation would be nice though ;)
So what to choose? I have been told that Debian Linux and FreeBSD come
pretty close to 'generic' and true unix implementations? Am I better off
staying away from SCO Unix cause its so Intel focused its almost got a
Autoexec.Bat startup file? Leave Solaris alone cause everything you learn on
Solaris is only valid in the land of the SUN?
Please let me know what you think, point me to web-pages which might assit
me, or redirect this message to /dev/null.
Any and all suggestions are more than welcome.
Thanks.
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From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Inittab and Cron
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:12:11 +0200
I have insert a new script which is executed when I press CTRL-ATL-DEL in
/etc/inittab, but now I have the problem that it works only 1 time. The
second time I press this buttons there does happen nothing. Does somebody
know why?
My second questions is if somebody know how I can prevent to get an e-mail
after cron has executed the script, but it's only a particular script I
don't want to get a mail from, not all.
Thanks for your help
Andy
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From: "Michael Coulter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:37:48 -0500
I let a local PC dealer setup a dual boot linux /win98 machine for me and it
cost a ton.
And they really goofed up with druid.
They let a 6 gig area of the disk go uninitialized as they thought it would
"grow". It turns out that is only at
install time, not during normal run conditions.
I found out the hard way. Loading Staroffice
So..I zapped the win D drive and made it into a linux partition and mounted
it first as /home
because /home is easier and I can do that.
(I use gnome to rename directories and cannot do that at linux text level)
I got a suggestion to mount instead /usr but /usr has all the xwindows stuff
and gnome and
then I cannot change the names of /nusr (the new usr dir) and /usr.
How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
Thanks
This it taking way too long.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:46:38 GMT
Cihl writes:
> For an ftp-client, you have the standard 'ftp', or 'ncftp', 'cftp', you
> name it.
ncftpget and ncftpput would probably be suitable for his purpose.
> dial-up client: SuSE has 'wvdial'. I don't know about the others.
That's a configurator and user interface. Pppd handles your connection.
> dial-up server: take your pick. Many to download from the internet.
PPP is a peer-to-peer protocol. There is no client-server distinction.
Linux uses pppd to handle both ends of the link, whether a home KDE box or
an ISP's server.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Move Linux partition to new HD, how?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:54:05 -0500
Matt O'Toole wrote:
> I currently have Linux installed on a drive with Windows 98. I've run out
> of space with my Linux partition. I have another hard drive that I could
> install, and move either my whole Linux system, or just part of it, over to
> that. What's the best way to go about this? I'm currently running Mandrake
> 7.0, with one large partition, plus swap. I should also mention that I have
> a cdrom and Zipdrive too. Also, whole point is to get more space without
> spending any money.
>
> Matt O.
You should probably have a look at the Hard Disk Upgrade mini how-to. It's at
file:/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade on my RH6.0 system
If you proceed deliberately and follow his instructions carefully, you
shouldn't have to use the backup which anyone in his right mind would
automatically make before doing anything else.
Cheers
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Dual NICs of same type?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:00:02 GMT
Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
'
' > Will two 3Com 3C905B-TX type PCI NICs play nicely together in a single
' > Linux box, or should I get another type of NIC for eth1?
'
' I have two 3C905B in my firewall and never encountered a problem.
'
' The only minor problem I can see is that you may have to figure out
' which one is which by either trial and error or by looking at the MAC
' (hardware) addresses. And, if you unplug eth0, eth1 becomes eth0....
' But those issues are there even if you have different NICs.
Cool. Thanks, guys. I guess I'll order that second NIC then.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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Subject: SSH2: Authentication fails
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:00:01 GMT
I am trying out SSH v 2.0. I set up sshd2 to be run from inetd as
there seemed no need for it to run as a seperate deamon. I've been
trying to get another machine to use ssh2 to logon to the first
machine using the ssh2 protocol, but I seem to be doing something
wrong. Does anyone have a simple procedure for setting up the keys
and whatnot once SSH has been compiled?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:02:10 GMT
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:27:20 -0700, chief <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if available, can you recommend the best distribution to run on, and best
>app? if i have to program some stuff myself, what is the easiest language to
>use?
Try Python: www.python.org.
One of the nice things about python is that it's quite
portable. You can write programs (text-mode or GUI) that will
run on Unix or MS-Windows (or MacOS if you're careful).
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Look!! Karl Malden!
at
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 15:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:37:48 -0500 Michael Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
Why not just use the shell?
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.devel,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 7.0
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:05:04 GMT
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:28:28 -0800, Sludge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone have a timeframe for when it will be out? (an estimate at least)
>And are they planning on designing it for the 2.4.x kernel and XFree86 4.x?
Based on my experience with 6.0, I'd skip 7.0 and wait for 7.1
or (preferably) 7.2. ;)
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Didn't I buy a 1951
at Packard from you last March
visi.com in Cairo?
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:10:32 +0800
From: kaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: ***HELP! Process cannot KILL***
Hi All,
I have a machine running Redhat Linux 6.2, when I try to reboot or
halt my system, those process is failed to kill during it shutting down,
can anybody help me to fix it.
Thanks for the kindly help and attention !!
kaho
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:13:52 +0100
"Nightshade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi'a.
>
> I have been having troble trying to install my grapic card for linux
> mandrake 6.5.
>
> Even thought it is in the list, it dosen't seem to be recanising it.
>
> Its like just lots of blakc boxes in sted of the text and all the images
> are
> just black.
>
> The name of the grapic card is SiS 6326 and the company is SiS.
> I have not used any clock setings on the grapic card instlasion on linux.
> Could this help?? And if so what seting should I use.
> This is my first time that I have used linux, so can u please make it
> sound as simple as posible please.
>
> Can any boady help please.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nightshade
If you go to
www.suse.com
thers lots of help on getting SiS cards to work.
Dave
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From: "Mike & Claudette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Ethernet problem
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:13:51 -0600
I'm not sure, but I think if there is a conflicting IRQ, it will detect, but
not work properly. Can you check to see if anything else is on IRQ 10?
"Robert Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I can't ping, I kow why but don't know what to do about it.
>
> My ethernet card is getting picked up OK:
> NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x320: 00 00 6e 31 7d d3
> eth0: NE2000 found at 0x320, using IRQ 10.
>
> But somthing is wrong as I then get the following messages:
> eth0: Tx timed out, lost interrupt? TSR=0x3, ISR=0x3, t=924.
> eth0: Tx timed out, lost interrupt? TSR=0x3, ISR=0x3, t=1000.
>
> Obviously something is messed up here, I just don't know what.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
>
>
>
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Help] LILO doesn't boot from SCSI disk
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:16:57 +0100
"Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
> I cannot get LILO booting from an SCSI disk. Can you give me some
> hints?
>
> This is the situation. I've just installed Linux Red Hat 6.2 on a Dual
> Pentium III machine equipped with:
> Mainboard: SUPERMICRO, SUPER P6DBE
> SCSI controller: Adaptec SCSI Card 29160
> SCSI disk: Seagate ST318436LW (17.5G)
> IDE disk: Seagate STS320430A (20GB)
>
> The IDE disk is only temporally installed, and it is going to be used
> only to hold data, no system files. All the system is installed on the
> SCSI disk. This is the partition table (generated with disk druid):
> --------------------
> Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2233 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
> /dev/sda2 14 2233 17832150 5 Extended
> /dev/sda5 14 906 7172991 83 Linux
> /dev/sda6 907 1548 5156833+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda7 1549 1880 2666758+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda8 1881 2174 2361523+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda9 2175 2213 313236 82 Linux swap
> /dev/sda10 2214 2233 160618+ 83
> Linux --------------------
>
> and this an excerpt from /etc/fstab:
> --------------------
> /dev/sda10 / ext2 defaults
> 1 1
> /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda5 /home ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda6 /usr ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda7 /usr/local ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda8 /var ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda9 swap swap defaults
> 0 0
> --------------------
> So the /boot partition is (/dev/sda1) located at very beginning of the
> disk.
>
> The overall installation was straightforward. Only the LILO
> installation issued a warning:
> "Warning: /dev/sda1 is not on the first disk"
>
> But then, before booting again I changed the BIOS booting sequence
> setting SCSI on the first place and IDE on the second. After saving
> this, the booting is restarted. The BIOS displays:
> "Searching for Boot Record from SCSI..OK"
> And then only appears:
> "LI"
> and it gets frozen.
> According to LILO's User's Guide (pag. 44):
> "LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
> loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a
> geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map
> installer."
> Of course, I haven't moved /boob/boot.b. Since the disk is a large one,
> I used the "linear" global option in lilo.conf, but no luck. I've also
> tried without it, with the same lack of success.
>
> If I install LILO on the IDE disk, it works all right, but I don't like
> this solution because of the temporal condition of the disk.
>
> LILO's version is 21.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any help to get the SCSI disk booting
> properly.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Cheers!
>
> Jos� Manuel
The only thing I can add to the excellent other post is to turn off the IDE
drives in your bios. Linux does not need the bios to detect IDE and tries to
use these as the boot drive if they are enabled.
Cheers
Dave
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mp3 player problems
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:20:41 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8lrluu$675$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi everyone
> i have a redhat 6.2 dist running on my box
> my sound card is "creative vibra"
> while iam playing MP3s on Xmms or mpg123 the slightest disk access,
> for example, opening a new xterm spoils the sound to a very great
> extent.
> i am getting really pained,
> please help me out
>
>
> thanx
> das
The only thing I can say is that I had the same prob when using IDE drives,
when I changed to SCSI the problem went. So I assume it was data throughput
on the bus.
Cheers
Dave
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Console font / resolution
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:18:25 GMT
On Jul 30, 2000 at 02:35, Jeffrey Hood eloquently wrote:
>Thanks... that definately answers my question... and raises another one...
>when I do a vga=ask, and then scan, I get a list from 0 to b (1-9,a-b)... I
>can type in either 9, or 0122 (I guess the hex value...) and have it load
>the resolution (in my case, 100x30...) but I can't seem to put
>either vga=9 or vga=0122 in the lilo conf file... it accepts them,
>but gives me an ask prompt during boot... are the only ones that I
>can use the ones that come up first, before the scan...
Did you run /sbin/lilo after chaanging the 'vga=' line??
>And one more... when I do get vga=788, etc to load (I guess my kernel must
>have had framebuffer support enabled already...) my console is flaked
>out after returning from a startx Gnome session... none of the modes
>seems to cure it, and I have to reboot to get a "clean" console...
If you have framebuffer support for your graf card,
you should use something like:
append="video=matrox:vesa:402"
This give that nice cute penguin image on bootup.
NOTE: vga=<value|ask> does not necessarily mean you
have framebuffer support in your kernel. If/when
your consol is messed up after exiting X, try
typing 'reset'.
[...]
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
If you analyse anything, you destroy it.
-- Arthur Miller
12:08pm up 20 days, 15:20, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ***HELP! Process cannot KILL***
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Jul 2000 16:20:31 GMT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:10:32 +0800, kaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a machine running Redhat Linux 6.2, when I try to reboot or
> halt my system, those process is failed to kill during it shutting down,
> can anybody help me to fix it.
>
> Thanks for the kindly help and attention !!
>
> kaho
>
which process are you talking about? Maybe you should first try
to kill it manually with the -9 option (thus "killall -9 <procesname>"
or "kill -9 <procesid>") and then type "shutdown -h now"
good luck!
Martin
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
6:10pm up 22 days, 11:02, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Can I delete these RPMs on my HDD?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 16:21:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Jul 2000 14:29:58 GMT, Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>Would I still be able to keep an audit trail/history of all the
>installed RPMs even after I physically delete them from the drive?
"Them" meaning what, exactly?
If you download foopackage-1.2.3.rpm and install it with rpm -Uvh
foopackage-1.2.3.rpm, information is written to files in /var/lib/rpm/,
and binaries and configuration files are placed wherever the RPM directs
them to be placed. Once this is done, the file foopackage-1.2.3.rpm is
no longer necessary unless you wish to reinstall the package.
If you start deleting files in /var/lib/rpm, it may be difficult to do
an audit trail, though.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:35:24 +0100
Reply-To: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Previously, chief <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
>have some requirements for a project which i am considering doing in
>linux,
>if possible. are the following features supported in most distributions?
>
>must be text based...
>
>ftp client
>dial-up client (to ISP and direct comm with the server)
>dial-up server
>scheduling command that will launch programs at specified time/date
>download manager like GetRight
>encrypting/decrypting program
>mp3 player with playlists, random, no repeat
>a built-in scripting ability like DOS
Yes - in fact, almost everything from Winderz is included in Linux,
including the BSoD (its one of the screen savers). The only
Windoze features missing from Linux is:
1. the ability to GPF
2. the requirement to reboot for any system change
3. wizards that do everything for you, thus removing the need for
any knowledge on how something functions which leaves you
high and dry when you need to fix it
4. the nice feature of slowing down after too much heavy work.
>if available, can you recommend the best distribution to run on, and best
>app?
Can't recommend the best distro, as I only use RedHat myself. In
terms of apps, Star Office is 99% compatible with M$ Office,
without the bloated code to slow things down and the annoying
paperclip.
>if i have to program some stuff myself, what is the easiest language
>to
>use?
shellscripting, as it's basically a load of operating system
commands strung together in a batch file (think of the commands
in AUTOEXEC.BAT - you get the idea).
However, perl is more powerful - it's cross-platform. So is Java
and C, but they require compilers or Virtual Machines to run.
>
>can you also recommend the best modem and sound card for that
>distrib?
Any should do - most are supported. Sounds cards under the
ALSA (http://www.alsa-project.org/) and modems under
Linmodems (http://www.linmodems.org/)
>also,
>is anyone aware of linux support for small LCD screens?
Not too sure about this one.
>
>it's alot of questions i know, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
No problems. Welcome to the world of proper operating systems,
and I'm glad you've seen the light.
--
Linux: that which NT aspires to become but will never acheive...
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Attach/remove SCSI devices without reboot
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:46:03 +0200
Dear Linux users
I have a small SCSI question: I have a Iomega JAZ which I only need
sonetimes, so nornally when I boot the system, the drive is powered off.
In Windows 98, there's no problem to attach my JAZ drive after booting;
a click to "Update" on the SCSI controller inside Windows's device
manager will force a SCSI bus rescan so new devices will get their
needed drive letters.
How can I do the same in Linux? Linux only seems to scan the SCSI but at
boot time, and after that I can see my devices in /proc/scsi/scsi but
what I want is to *force* updating this list.
In general: Is there a way to get SCSI ID# based special device files
(for example /dev/sda for that device with ID#0, /dev/sdb for #1 and so
on) like in Digital UNIX and ULTRIX? There we have /dev/rz4x for the
device with SCSI ID #4, /dev/rz6x for that with ID #6 and so on instead
the BIOS like method where the devices get their special device files in
numbered order according to the list at boot time.
Any hints are appreciated. :-)
Andreas
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From: Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH not free. Is there alternative?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 16:43:31 GMT
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a free (as in liberty) alternative to SSH?
http://www.openssh.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise
Date: 30 Jul 2000 16:46:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:27:20 -0700, chief wrote:
>have some requirements for a project which i am considering doing in linux,
>if possible. are the following features supported in most distributions?
>must be text based...
(Replying because while a lot of people answered your questions, they
didn't give specific answers to some things!)
>ftp client
ftp or ncftp, as they said.
>dial-up client (to ISP and direct comm with the server)
>dial-up server
pppd, wvdial, minicom. To be a dial-up server, you'll probably need a
modem that can auto-answer, but most modems can do that.
>scheduling command that will launch programs at specified time/date
cron is intended for tasks that must be performed at the same time every
day/week/hour. "Every Tuesday at 2am, back up /home/me to CD-R." at is
designed for one-off execution. "Today, and today only, play
Rammstein's 'Sehnsucht' at very high volume at 6am so I'll wake up."
>download manager like GetRight
I don't know what a "download manager" is supposed to do. If you want
to keep track of what you downloaded and where you put it, you'll have
to do that yourself for the most part. If you wish to download things
and be sure you got them all even though the connection keeps timing
out, take a look at "wget".
>encrypting/decrypting program
pgp, gpg, hordes of things available on http://freshmeat.net
>mp3 player with playlists, random, no repeat
mpg123 and mp3blaster for text-mode work well.
>a built-in scripting ability like DOS
DOS .BAT files were designed as a poor man's imitation of the scripting
available in bash, tcsh, and ksh. If you can't do it in a shell script,
do it in a Perl script. If you can't do it in a Perl script, do it in
C. If you can't do it in C, do it in assembly, though you may wish to
avoid going that route....
>if available, can you recommend the best distribution to run on, and best
>app? if i have to program some stuff myself, what is the easiest language to
>use?
Asking "what's the best distro?" will cause Holy Wars. Use the distro
that your friends use, and if you don't have any Linux-using friends,
find some! Most medium-sized cities have a Linux User Group; start
there. "Best app" depends on what you want that app to do. vim is a
very nice text editor, but it's not a very good web browser. Language
is a matter of personal preference; if you already know a real
programming language (VB doesn't count as a real language) then it's
probably available for Linux.
>can you also recommend the best modem and sound card for that distrib? also,
>is anyone aware of linux support for small LCD screens?
An external modem that plugs into the serial port. Lots of sound cards
will work--a cheap, easy-to-set-up card is sold under the name "Ensoniq
AudioPCI", and it uses the ES1371 sound chipset. Since it's PCI, you
don't have to mess with figuring out IRQ and I/O and DMA settings.
Installing it with a modern distro is as easy as "modprobe es1371".
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I delete these RPMs on my HDD?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 12:07:44 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:
> Would I still be able to keep an audit trail/history of all the
> installed RPMs even after I physically delete them from the drive?
Yes. There is an RPM database "out there" that keeps track of what
you've installed. You don't need the physical RPMs after you've used
them.
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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