Linux-Misc Digest #294, Volume #19 Thu, 4 Mar 99 06:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: Cable Modems with Linux (Eugene Strulyov)
Re: Adjust time drift? (John Hasler)
Re: Public license question (Emile van Bergen)
Re: More bad news for NT (Jason Clifford)
Re: Anti-Virus for Linux (Jason Clifford)
Re: RHL5.2 and lsof (Jason Clifford)
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: Caldera RPMs in RH? (Villy Kruse)
linuxthreads + libc5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (jik-)
Linux Newsreader (Brian Moore)
Re: which Linux distribution? (jik-)
xcdroast-0.96e: Error: No /dev/sr-Devices found. (=?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?=
Peyrucq)
Re: Windows 98 and System Resources (sandrews)
Re: Public license question (Christopher Seawood)
Re: mkisofs AND loopback mount (Stefan Nehlsen)
Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Public license question (jik-)
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:20:32 -0500
> I'd certainly agree with anyone who argued that improving its
performance is worth sacrificing the stability of the server. <
Somehow I missed the "not", as in:
> I'd certainly agree with anyone who argued that improving its
performance is NOT worth sacrificing the stability of the server. <
Harry
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:16:27 -0500
> Is there a mechanism within CMD.EXE to allow
> switching between tasks or is it just a "detach
> and forget" type of thing?
Well, it's a command prompt and allows you to issue commands, as you
would in Linux without X. If you want, for instance to stop WINS
you'd issue the command NET STOP WINS. Is this what you want to
know?
> Sure, but would you use that Lexus for hauling freight?
No, but I'd not advise you to buy a Lexus for freight! I'd not
advise using an NT box for file and print serving, where NetWare is
more efficient. And I'd not advise NT for your coporate DB, which
should be on a mainframe, Unix system (not Linux, though!), or
AS/400. I'd certainly not advise you to buy NT for a file server and
then set about "stripping it down".
Harry
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From: Eugene Strulyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Cable Modems with Linux
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:20:09 GMT
they *might* be able to tell it if you use IP aliasing (1 network card
with 2 IP addresses for both local network and the cable modem), but it's
impossible if you use 2 network cards (1 for local network, 1 for cable
modem), or so I think. In any case, I don't think anybody actually checks
it. I've been doing that for 2 month. A friend of mine's been doing that
over a year.
Eugene
www.happypenguin.dhs.org
Bob Deep wrote:
> Bill Unruh wrote:
> > Use IP Masquarading of the first computer to the second Linux machine
> > connected to the cable modem and the net.
>
> It is possible that this would violate your agreement with the cable
> company and it is possible for them to tell you are doing this.
>
> So... They may shut you down for Masquarading for another box, but I
> doubt they would even notice...
>
> -= bob =-
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adjust time drift?
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:44:01 GMT
Stef writes:
> My machine drifts about 30 seconds every day. So I have a daily cron job
> that performs a rdate. But 30 seconds is quite a lot. Is there a better
> possibility to adjust the system time?
Install chrony. It is available as a Debian package in unstable
(www.debian.org) or in a tarball from the usual ftp sites. I don't know if
there is an rpm package.
Package: chrony
Version: 1.02-3
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u)
Conflicts: xntp3
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/chrony_1.02-3.deb
Size: 249806
MD5sum: 531dbf5240df9aacca9c6a0e911fee6c
Description: It sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net.
It consists of a pair of programs:
`chronyd'.
This is a daemon which runs in background on the system. It
obtains measurements (e.g. via the network) of the system's offset
relative to other systems, and adjusts the system time accordingly. For
isolated systems, the user can periodically enter the correct time by hand
(using `chronyc'). In either case, `chronyd' determines the rate at which
the computer gains or loses time, and compensates for this.
`chronyc'.
This is a command-line driven control and monitoring program. An
administrator can use this to fine-tune various parameters within the
daemon, add or delete servers etc whilst the daemon is running.
installed-size: 444
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:03:02 +0100
Geoffrey KEATING wrote:
>
> This whole "derived work" stuff is really very simple.
In the following two examples, yes.
> Here's how to make a derived work: Take some substantial code from
> GCC, or from the linux kernel, or whatever. Copy-and-paste it into
> your program. You now have a derived work.
>
> Here's how to not make a derived work: Think hard. Make your own
> solution to the problem. Type it into your program.
>
> You see the difference? It's nothing to do with the thing that's
> produced; they may turn out the same. It's how they were made. Of
> course, it's much easier to prove that wasn't copied if they are
> substantially different, but that's not the essential thing.
But I have another question, which may be a FAQ on this group; in that
case, my apologies. I read this group rather often, but due to the high
traffic and the long threads that always seem to go off-topic at some
point, I don't get to read everything...
The question is the following. Assume that I'd like to build a
proprietary small database application using the GPL'ed (not LGPL'ed!)
gdbm. Not by extending gdbm (i.e. copying and pasting), but just
{statically | dynamically} linking with it.
How does the 'derived work' clause apply here? It's a library, but it
isn't LGPL'ed. When I statically link my app with gdbm, I don't copy any
gdbm source into my program, however, I do copy _binary_ pieces of gdbm
into my program. (If I dynamically link my app with gdbm, I guess the
end user performs the act of linking).
I haven't a clue about how this is to be judged under the GPL. I've read
the license myself, but found it rather vague on the 'derived work'
part.
Solutions, anyone?
--
M.vr.gr. / Best regards,
Emile van Bergen (e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
This e-mail message is 100% electronically degradeable and produced
on a GNU/Linux system.
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:40:50 +0000
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Jon Wiest wrote:
> >The rest of your system is almost certainly OK. You just can't communicate
> >with it. It's still breathing, just deaf-mute. :\
>
> O that's great. Maybe he should just let it sit there, fully content that
> Linux itself hasn't been violated.
If the system is on a network that is exactly what he should do. Then he
should telnet into the system and kill the errant process.
If the system is not on a network and there is absolutely no input
possible (CAPS Lock light does not come on when Caps Lock key is pressed)
then he will have to pull the power. He should not do this if the disk is
obviously busy unless he absolutely must as this is a good way to corrupt
a filesystem.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus for Linux
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:48:07 +0000
On 3 Mar 1999, D. Dale Gulledge wrote:
> > However, the original poster was worried about viruses contracted off a
> > network, which is virtually impossible under Linux.
>
> Does anyone here know of any Linux viruses? And do they have to initially
> infect your system through a trojan horse run by root?
There are two known trojan horse attacks for Linux neither of which
actually works very well if at all.
They depend upon being executed by root.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RHL5.2 and lsof
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:51:26 +0000
> I get the following error when I run lsof:
>
> lsof: kernel symbol address mismatch: get_options
> get_kernel_syms() value is 0x108d48; /boot/System.map value is
> 0x108ce0.
> There were 384 additional mismatches.
> /boot/System.map and the booted kernel may not be a matched set.
Have you installed the kernel 2.0.36-3 update? I found that I was getting
this exact error message on one system because I had installed the updated
kernel but had forgotten to set the updated kernel as the default boot and
the system was still running with the default 2.0.36-0.7 kernel which is
known to have several problems.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:24:50 -0500
> OK, next question: can you set up NT with a text-mode shell
and still be able to manage multiple simultaneous
applications? I know this is possible with OS/2 (TSHELL)
and linux, and is quite useful when you want to provide
maximum resources to a server (for example) that doesn't
need a fancy user interface. <
You'd define a system policy and specify cmd.exe as the default
shell. Why, God only knows. It's a bit like buying a Lexus and then
deciding that all the electric motors for the back support etc and
all the extra trim is slowing the thing down.
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Caldera RPMs in RH?
Date: 4 Mar 1999 10:10:32 +0100
In article <7bjkrd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron Dershem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can I install Caldera RPMs in Red Hat 5.2? I want to add netatalk, but RH
>doesn't supply a package. Caldera does, but I'm not sure if it will work
>correctly.
>
We won't know until we try. Some packages work, some don't. Your redhat
system needs the libc5 package installed though and you might need to add
some symbolic lincs from the /usr/lib directory to /usr/share directory
for the terminfo zoneinfo directories.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: linuxthreads + libc5
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:47:55 -0500
Hi, im using slack 3.6 (libc5) and trying to compile linuxthreads 0.71
and thread safe Xlibs afterwards, ultimately to be able to install GTK
1.1.*
When trying to compile linuxthreads I get the following and I have no
idea what to do...hopefully someone can help:
gcc -pipe -O2 -Wall -m486 -D__BUILDING_LINUXTHREADS -Isysdeps/i386
-Ilibc_r -D_POSIX_THREADS -c pthread.c -o pthread.o
In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:17,
from pthread.h:26,
from pthread.c:25:
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:134: warning: `struct task_struct' declared
inside parameter list
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:134: warning: its scope is only this
definition or declaration,
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:134: warning: which is probably not what
you want.
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h: In function `waking_non_zero':
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:141: `PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use this
function)
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:141: (Each undeclared identifier is
reported only once
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:141: for each function it appears in.)
/usr/include/asm/processor.h: At top level:
In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:74,
from pthread.h:26,
from pthread.c:25:
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:278: warning: `struct task_struct' declared
inside parameter list
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:282: warning: `struct task_struct' declared
inside parameter list
make: *** [pthread.o] Error 1
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 01:59:40 -0800
Robert Sexton wrote:
>
> Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Here are some areas in which Windows is still better than FBSD and
> : Linux:
>
> : * better books on programming, systems programming, etc. I don't think
> : there's any books out there on specifically programming for FreeBSD
> : (although Stevens' book might be close).
>
> We don't need any 'FreeBSD' specific programming books.
> Its UNIX, ya, know? Basically, every book on UNIX programming is
> directly applicable to FreeBSD and to a slightly lesser extent, Linux
> programming. (Linux has more mint flavored extensions).
I agree, though I use Unix programming to learn lots of Linux too....
Linux books are crap, I haven't seen or read one that was worth the tree
they cut down to print it....they all skim over lots of topics and never
get into any nitty gritty on anything,...your basic newbie could write
one.
Unix books on the other hand....well you can find one of those on just
about every aspect of Unix programming out there...they DO get into the
gory details necisarry to actually learn anything.....they might be
worth that tree.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Subject: Linux Newsreader
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 20:41:46 GMT
Linux Users.
I have problems installing nn-tk 16.4 into Red Hat 5.2
After running "make" no nn-tk binary is built.
Could anyone help please?
Thanks, Brian.
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which Linux distribution?
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 01:52:23 -0800
Kirk R. Wythers wrote:
>
> I'm looking for advice on the relative strengths and weaknesses of the
> various Linux distributions. No flame wars please, just a simple explanation
> of which distribution you use and why. Also I need to settle on a word
> processor that will allow documents exchange with both
> UNIX/FrameMaker people and Windows/Word people.
>
> All rational thoughts appreciated,
>
> Kirk
I still think Slackware is the best distribution overall. Good for the
newbie, good for the advanced. It has a package utility, granted it
doesn't do any checking, that is very intuitive to use,...but rarely is
it necisary to bother (its just a tarball with a script inside). Your
actually better off getting the source and compiling ON YOUR OWN....you
get the best deal that way, no matter what distribution you have....
The inittab and rc file setups a very nice,...as apposed to ANY of the
others I have tried...all you do is look in the file for the runlevel
you want to change and do some command line adjusting, easy to add, easy
to remove...no wierdness...as a newbie I was able to hop right in and
get it to do exactly what I wanted,...as a more advanced player,...I
still don't make much sence of the other system's init setups....and
there is little documentation in this area, so keep this in mind.
The system is small and elegant. No massive dependancies, your much
more free to decide how much of a system you want, and can leave out
almost anything. Course, if you get into wanting a large amount of
stuff like special window managers, or Xemacs...you have to get these
yourself. But it does come with Gimp, Gtk, Qt, LessTif, Netscape,
Xaw3d...gv....lots of great stuff that comes in most other distributions
(with the exeption of Qt probably)
It is also pretty up to date, though it didn't used to be....which some
people may say against it to this day. It doesn't use glibc yet, but
untill pretty recently, glibc was not acceptably stable to be used in
Slackware. Slackware doesn't go state of the art,..it uses the latest
STABLE release of all its software...tested by a single person.
And if you really want a package manager (which is totaly overrated) you
can install RPM and use it....but you have to scap some dependancy
checking because the system files were not registered.
All and all, it takes up a lot less wasted room because it doesn't use a
shitload of unnecisary stuff to do its thing. It is a straight Linux
box like no other, I have tried a wide variety of Linux flavors and this
one stands as THE best. It is the easiest to learn on, and the easiest
and fastest to use. Its your basic *nix box...not a commercialised,
overemphasized load of whatever....just Linux.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= Peyrucq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: xcdroast-0.96e: Error: No /dev/sr-Devices found.
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:47:58 +0000
Pb: Making run xcdroast-0.96e on RedHat 5.2, with kernel 2.2.2
My box:
Redhat 5.2
xcdroast-0.96e
kernel 2.2.2
PentiumII 300Mh
scsi: aha2940
CD-W: Sony CDU948S
ATAPI CDROM
I had xcdroast-0.96d installed and kernel 2.1.114, on a slackware,
working, with many problems (bad burned images)
I have seen in the readme that the aha2940 adapter may cause this pbs so
i upgraded all my system:
I installed the RedHat 5.2, with kernel 2.2.2 , and xcdroast-0.96e
I can mount the cdrom ( device: /dev/sr0 )
I have an IDE cdrom installed, but it doesn't detect it, and I don't
know how to mount it (I don't care about it, bat may be it helps to know
it),
When I run xcdroast, it tells me:
Error: No /dev/sr-Devices found.
Please create first the devices. Run "./MAKEDEVICES.sh"
in the xcdroast-0.96e directory.
I made it, without problem, changes nothing
As written in the readme I did:
#cat /proc/devices
Character devices:
...
21 sg
...
and i can see that the sg device is present
This is the same with the xcdroast-0.96d version.
I made this test:
# /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.96e/bin/cdrecord-1.6.1 -scanbus
Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J�rg Schilling
scsibus0:
0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST34572W ' '0876' Disk
1) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST34572W ' '0876' Disk
2) *
3) *
4) *
5) *
6) 'SONY ' 'CD-R CDU948S ' '1.0j' Removable
CD-ROM
7) *
This doesn't detect my ATAPI cdrom reader (but doesn't matter)
--
Does anybody have an idea ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:44:50 -0500
From: sandrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 98 and System Resources
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.misc,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Jorge Padron wrote:
>
> The real issue to me, more that the amount of resources available right
> after re-booting Windows 98 which could be improved by not having that many
> processes running at system startup (run MSCONFIG from the Start/Run menu),
> is the fact that a typical machine running Windows 98 *will* undoubtedly
> lose resources with time and will eventually require a "re-boot" to regain
> resources.
>
> After working with Windows 3.x, 95, and now 98 in the support role of an MIS
> environment for many years, I have experienced this helpdesk-call-generating
> "feature" of Microsoft Windows (3.x, 96, and 98) daily -- what happens is
> that users sometimes don't turn off their machines at night, so they use
> them for days without re-booting them; after a few days of typical office
> use, their machines' resources go down to unbelievable low numbers (i.e.
> Resources = 29%); at that point, even if they close every running
> application and most uneeded tasks, their resources won't go back up to even
> 65 or 70%. Most of the times their machines simply collapse altogether after
> a few days of continuous operations. At the end, there is no other choice
> but to re-boot these machines to recover your resources.
>
> Two other observations: [1] The amount of RAM you have really has not much
> to do with the percent of available resources -- in other words, Windows 98
> machines with only 32MB of RAM will leak resources and will not recover from
> those memory leaks just the same as machines tha have 128, 256 or even more
> RAM. The real problem is the inability of the Windows 98 operating system to
> reclaim all the resources that have been previously assigned to
> memory-leaking applications or tasks. [2] In my MIS experience supporting
> Windows NT, I've also noticed a depletion of resources on NT machines;
> however, this happens over more extended periods of time (i.e. 5 or 6 days
> instead of 2 days). What's interesting is that NT 3.x and 4 machines also
> have short system-up cycles. On NT, I've noticed this happening more on
> havily used workstations -- on NT servers, memory resource levels seem to be
> more stable than on NT Workstations.
>
> ***** What I'd like to know at this point is whether operating systems such
> as UNIX or Linux suffer from this inability to self-recover from
> memory-leaking processes, tasks, applications, programs, threads or any
> executing process that allocates memory? I have no professional experience
> with UNIX or Linux so I'd be very interested to know from UNIX and Linux
> professionals how is it that they are able to have the long system-up cycles
> (sometimes months at a time without re-booting) they claim to have?
>
> Jorge Padron
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
Nope....from a Linux user with a server uptime of 423 days and counting
--
"When people understand what Microsoft is up to, they're outraged."
-- TIM O'REILLY, President, O'Reilly & Associates
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Seawood)
Subject: Re: Public license question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:52:40 GMT
David Kastrup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Mark Mokryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > But I don't know what the Linux community expects, because the GPL
: > is so !@^%$* vague.
:
: Read it. It is very explicit. If you have a trouble understanding
: it, ask.
Maybe I'm misinterpretting the situation but it seems as though Mark has
been asking all along only to be replied to with sarcasm and contempt for
his efforts. I've read the GPL many times and I do not find it to be
"very explicit" to the point where I have no questions about whether a
certain course of action is prohibited. And before you go off on your
tirade against proprietary software developers, the ambiguity in the
GPL affects other "free" licenses as well.
I have a few questions about the GPL and certain scenarios that I
was going to direct to RMS (and probably still should) but since you've
opened the floor to questions... ;P
1) Per Section 3, what constitutes "normally distributed with major
components of the operating system"? Motif distributed with Solaris seems
to fall under this distinction but Qt distributed with Linux-Mandrake does
not. What's the difference? This clause may have been straight-forward
in the days when you could only get an OS from a single vendor but at
least where the "free" OSes are concerned, this clause is very ambigious.
2) I briefly looked for the definition of "derivative work"
under the context of copyright and this is what I came
across: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/101.html
A ''derivative work'' is a work based upon one or more preexisting
works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization,
fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art
reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which
a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting
of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other
modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of
authorship, is a ''derivative work''.
Does linking your code with another piece of code make it "based upon"
the second piece of code or are they mutually "based upon" each other?
Are dynamically loaded modules considered to be "based upon" the program
they can be loaded by (assuming dynamically loaded modules are considered
to be "annotations" or "elaborations")? What if the modules can be
loaded by several programs?
3) What is the boundary of a derivative work wrt software? Process space?
Source files? Sockets? There has to be some limit otherwise we'd all be
in violation of the GPL due to the use of non-GPL'd code for webservers,
daemons, dynamic loaders, etc.
4) If a dynamically loaded module under the GPL is considered to be a
derivative work of a proprietary product, is there a violation of the GPL?
If so, who is performing the violation?
5) If a program calls functions of a library, is the program considered
to be a derivative work of that library? If so, from the definition of
"derivative work", which type of change is occurring to the library?
(This example assumes some sort of linking was involved).
6) If a program calls the functions of a library but is not linked to the
library (doesn't share process space nor is part of a single executable),
is the program considered to be a derivative of the library?
7) How are the scenarios in questions 4, 5 & 6 different than a program
calling syscalls into the kernel? The linux kernel comes with a notice
(quoted below) at the top of the GPL distributed with it. Is this notice
adding an exception to the GPL or merely clarifying a point? (I'm not
sure what copyright law says about "normal use").
NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user programs that use kernel
services by normal system calls - this is merely considered normal use
of the kernel, and does *not* fall under the heading of "derived work".
Also note that the GPL below is copyrighted by the Free Software
Foundation, but the instance of code that it refers to (the Linux
kernel) is copyrighted by me and others who actually wrote it.
: If that does not fit your purpose, go elsewhere. Stop whining.
Lesse, if you ask a question, you're considered to be whining. If you
don't bother to ask and accidentally (thru misinterpretation) violate
the GPL, you're at fault because you didn't bother to learn about the
GPL by asking about it. "Dude, this is f*cked up right here!"
- cls
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Nehlsen)
Subject: Re: mkisofs AND loopback mount
Date: 4 Mar 1999 10:09:34 GMT
In <iCWC2.388$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 rawimage /mountpoint
>>
>>Directories below 8 levels have dissappeared and a simple find comes up
>with
>>No such file or directory -- and stops. Looking at the mounted filesystem,
>>the directories in question have no "." or "..".
>>
>RockRidge extensions on ISO9660 forbid any deaper.
This is a restriction of ISO9660, not of Rock Ridge Extensions.
mkisofs has the option -D to ignore it:
-D Do not use deep directory relocation, and instead just
pack them in the way we see them. This violates the
ISO9660 standard, but it works on many systems. Use
with caution.
> I believe that
>mkisofs-1.12b4, which you are using, allows for Joliet extensions. If you
>do:
> mkisofs -r -J -o filename -V VolID sourcedir/
>you can make a hybrid CD that has both RockRidge and Joliet extensions.
>That is how I make my CD's viewable from both FreeBSD (no Joliet support)
>and Windows. I am not sure if it will allow you to have a filesystem any
>deeper than you had before though. If you are simply using the disk with
>Linux (not a distribution CD), then you could try putting a ext2 filesystem
>on there, but I would worry about wasted space.
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash?
Date: 4 Mar 1999 11:23:08 +0100
Roger Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Under RH 5.1 and a 2.0.34 kernel, I have experienced crashes with both
> Netscape 4.08 and 4.5 when accessing Freshmeat. It doesn't happen every
> time I access Freshmeat, but it hasn't happened on any other sites.
I had the same problem with several Unix variants (Linux, SGI). The only way I
found so far to prevent crashes/freezes of Netscape was to disable JavaScript.
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Alain Borel
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 01:37:25 -0800
> Well, if you plan to release your box as a whole thing, and you
> include GPLed software, then you must include source to the whole
> thing. That's the point of the GPL.
Not so at all....it says right in the GPL that just because the 2
programs are on the same disk does not mean that you must also release
yours under GPL....only derivative works...if they even tried it
wouldn't hold up in court at all.
So, releasing a Linux Box with some proprietery software on it should
not be a problem
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