Linux-Misc Digest #294, Volume #25 Mon, 31 Jul 00 11:13:03 EDT
Contents:
newbie setting up pop servers ("Michael Ware")
Re: Looking for glibc 2.2 to get XFree86 4.x working (Davide Bianchi)
Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Kenneth
R�rvik)
Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Kenneth
R�rvik)
Re: Which IDE linux C programers use? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Netatalk and Red Hat 6.2 (Rod Smith)
Automatic login (Ray Hernandez)
Re: Only root can run StarOffice 5.2 (giancarlo)
Re: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card (Bill West)
gcc-newbie question... (Geir)
Re: <XVidTune> (Rasputin)
Re: ***HELP! Process cannot KILL*** (Rasputin)
terminal window drectory (Nick Evans)
Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr? (Clayton Roland Carter)
Re: Only root can run StarOffice 5.2 (Nick Evans)
Re: very old laptop as a car mp3 player running linux
Netscape cookies ("Ed Lewis")
Corel Office 2000 for Linux ("Ed Lewis")
Re: gcc compiling error (Rasputin)
Re: gnutella client (Rasputin)
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From: "Michael Ware" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie setting up pop servers
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:08:55 +1000
Hello, I am just learning how to set up the pop server on my linux box.
Firstly, I don't have a fully qualified domain name, so for testing purposes
what server name should I use, localhost, localhost.localdomain.com etc?
secondly, where do I set up the users accounts? ie mailconf, userconf? and
thirdly, how do I test the pop mail server? ie sendmail ?
ps I have no access to use xwindows gui.
I would greatly appreciate any info to email, thanks
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Looking for glibc 2.2 to get XFree86 4.x working
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:30:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:53:38 GMT, "Frederik Tilkin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone know where to find it?
Last time I looked for it, the last version was 2.1.3.
Look at http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis/glibc/index.html
Davide
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:34:18 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> b) The second issue is a minor detail. When 'halt' is commanded,
>everything is done all right except the last step, namely, actually
>powering down the machine. I don't know why because the BIOS does
>support the programmed power down and the previous kernel (2.2.14) did
>power down the machine.
Enable "Use real mode APM bios call to power off" in your kernel config,
and you should be OK :)
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Kenneth R�rvik 91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:36:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>generate that file? I have set on the three options for "Loadable module
>support", namely: "Enable loadable module support", "Set version
>information in all symbols for modules", and "Kernel module loader".
>Then make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install.
You should run "make clean" before "make bzImage" :) Although this will
probably not remove the unresolved symbol messages.
--
Kenneth R�rvik 91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which IDE linux C programers use?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 09:33:03 -0400
David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > etc. *Some* programmers use GnuEmacs or XEmacs -- both of these have
> > syntax highlighting and 'electric C' modes. There is also an interface
>
> How do I turn this on in gnu emacs?
here is what i have in my ~/.emacs
;; pretty colors only work in X
(when window-system
(global-font-lock-mode 1))
;; C mode config
(defun jk-c-init ()
(c-set-style "stroustrup")
(c-set-offset 'inline-open 0)
(c-toggle-auto-hungry-state 1)
(setq case-fold-search nil
c-recognize-knr-p nil
c-auto-newline nil
c-indent-comments-syntactically-p t))
(add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook 'jk-c-init t)
(add-hook 'awk-mode-hook 'jk-c-init t)
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J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 09:36:07 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> On 28 Jul 2000 10:31:00 -0700, Charlie Zender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Thanks, rdate works as advertised and is much simpler to use than
> >hwclock for my purposes.
set hardware time to zulu.
> You should still use hwclock (or setclock in RedHat) to set the hardware
> clock/calendar so it will be correct when you reboot to that other
> OS.
this is a losing battle. microsoft doesn't know how to keep time.
they try to adjust the hardware clock for daylight savings. if you
have two operating systems trying to play this game you can easily see
how losing it really is. i let windows think i live in greenwich
england without daylight savings time.
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J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Netatalk and Red Hat 6.2
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:08:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
FyreFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:32:54 GMT, Stephen Gilbert
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone gotten Netatalk to work with Red Hat 6.2? It's not part of
>>the distrib, and I have been unable to get any version of the source
>>code to compile under 6.2. I found a binary tarball at
>>contribs.redhat.com, but it gives errors trying to start up atalkd. It
>>says...
>>
>>socket: Invalid argument
>>socket: Invalid argument
>>atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting.
>>
> I have the same problem until I loaded the appletalk modual
> (spelling?). Now it works great.
Another point to keep in mind is that Netatalk is a *VERY* finicky
package. Some binaries (or source package, for that matter) work fine,
whereas others flake out in assorted ways. My advice is that if you
run into serious problems with Netatalk, acquire a second and, if
necessary, third and fourth, package. You can find them at places like
http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/. FWIW, here's the information on the
package I'm using:
$ rpm -qi netatalk
Name : netatalk Vendor: (none)
Version : 1.4b2+asun2.1.3 Distribution: (none)
Release : 4 Build Host: minakanusi.ns.musashi-tech.ac.jp
Install Date: 1999-12-30T04:27:47Z Build Date: 1999-04-22T04:55:03Z
Size : 475161 Source RPM: netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3-4.src.rpm
Group : Networking
Copyright : GPL
Packager : iNOUE Koichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Summary : AppleTalk networking programs
Note that not just the version and release number are important; who
built it also matters -- after all, Fred's build x of version y may be
quite different from Sally's build x of version y.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Ray Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Automatic login
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:02:44 GMT
Dear All,
My company is trying to create a Linux box, that when rebooted,
will automagically login to a specified account. This is much like a
mall info kiosk type application. We are not to worried about security,
so this is not an issue. Thanks.
--Ray
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: giancarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only root can run StarOffice 5.2
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:14:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland) wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I don't know have a Staroffice CD. I just downloaded staroffice from
Sun
> >Microsystems. I can't find the "setup" from the single downloaded
file.
> >What should I do?
>
> Run the file how you did to do your initial install but add: -net to
the
> end.
>
> This makes star office install itself so that other users on the same
> machine or on other networks can then install a minimum install
locally
> while using the rest from the -net isstall.
>
> Stick it in /opt/office52 not /root/office52 so everyone can access
the
> necessary programs. Then as a user /opt/office52/progra/setup should
install
> the workstation setup for the user calling it.
>
> Frinky
>
--
I tried this and did not work, I ran setup-net as root and it install,
tnen I loged in as user and try to run setup and get the message that my
script needs to be fixed, I said ok. and the SO installation windows pop
up does whatever it does and said that it is completely installed but it
does not run at all, I downloaded the manual from Sun and I do not see
the screens that they show in there when I try to do a user install.\
If you have any suggestions I will try them.
Giancarlo Castillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.~.
/V\ L I N U X
// \\ <Don't fear the penguin>
/( )\
^^-^^
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Bill West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:22:44 +1000
Hi
It is also worth checking www.sis.com.tw. I found a driver for my SIS620
there. Another good source of info is www.xfree.org.
Good luck
Bill.
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From: Geir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc-newbie question...
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:30:43 +0200
I have just started to try out a little C-programming under Linux and I
am playing around with some small programs just to "try things out". I
wrote the following program which simply is supposed to displays a
message if there is a PCI-bios presenet in the machine;
#include <linux/pci.h>
int main(){
if (pcibios_present()) printf("PCI-bios found...");
}
int pcibios_present(void) is defined in pci.h...
I then try to compile the program with:
gcc -D__KERNEL__ testpci.c
testpci.c is of course the name of the program and __KERNEL__ needs to
be defined when including "pci.h" to get everything included.
But when I try compiling I get an error-message from ld (the linker),
saying:
undefined reference to 'pcibios_present'
I suppose this means the linker cant find the "pci.o"-object file or
something, and therefore is unable to link in 'pcibios_present()'.
How should I compile this program to make it work?
What am I doing wrong?
All the libraries should be installed in their "standard" places as I am
just using a freshly installed Linux distribution from SuSE.
Hope somebody can help me out...
Geir.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: <XVidTune>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:13:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <N/A> wrote:
>how do i run the 'xvidtune' command on corel linux delux cuz i am trying
>to adjust my screen size so i can see it all. i ran it in the run command
>and nothing happened.
If you run it from a shell it'll probably say "xvidtune: command not found"
Install it first.
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ***HELP! Process cannot KILL***
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:11:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Martin Herrman> wrote:
>On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:10:32 +0800, kaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a machine running Redhat Linux 6.2, when I try to reboot or
>> halt my system, those process is failed to kill during it shutting down,
>> can anybody help me to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks for the kindly help and attention !!
>>
>> kaho
>>
>
>which process are you talking about? Maybe you should first try
>to kill it manually with the -9 option (thus "killall -9 <procesname>"
>or "kill -9 <procesid>") and then type "shutdown -h now"
I thought a shutdown would eventually get round to kill -9 ing a process
if other signals it sent failed to stop it.
What process is refusing to die?
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: Nick Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: terminal window drectory
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:35:56 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm having trouble getting the terminal window button to work properly
in RedHat 6.2. Whenever I click it, it takes to the ~/.gnome-desktop
directory not my ~ home directory. Not a big problem, I know, but still
very irritating. Can anyone help?
Nick Evans
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Nick W. D. Evans
Speech and Image Research Group http://galilee.swan.ac.uk
Dept. Electrical & Electronic Engineering Mobile: +44 973 665287
University of Wales, Swansea Tel: +44 1792 295883
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clayton Roland Carter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 14:42:14 GMT
You should probably try to get your money back if they're
really as incompotent as you've hinted at.
Anyway, if you're just wanting to rename files and
directories, use `mv`. For example:
$ ls -F
olddirname/
$ mv olddirname newdirname
$ ls -F
newdirname/
You can also use the `man` or `info` commands to look at the
documentation for other commands, such as `mv`. (eg - `man mv` will
display the manual for `mv`)
That said, I don't really understand what you're trying to
do. Well, I understand up to where you mounted the old D drive as
/home. What happened to the original /home? And why would you mount
the new partition as /usr? That doesn't sound like such a good idea.
If you really want those 6 gigs used for every day stuff, you might as
well just reinstall. Redhat's latest releases make the install rather
painless. Plus, you'll learn a lot more about Linux (which is, I
assume, what you want to do? :) by installing yourself.
--pc
In article <8m1i4h$ok2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I let a local PC dealer setup a dual boot linux /win98 machine for me and it
>cost a ton.
>And they really goofed up with druid.
>
>They let a 6 gig area of the disk go uninitialized as they thought it would
>"grow". It turns out that is only at
>install time, not during normal run conditions.
>
>I found out the hard way. Loading Staroffice
>
>So..I zapped the win D drive and made it into a linux partition and mounted
>it first as /home
>because /home is easier and I can do that.
>(I use gnome to rename directories and cannot do that at linux text level)
>
>I got a suggestion to mount instead /usr but /usr has all the xwindows stuff
>and gnome and
>then I cannot change the names of /nusr (the new usr dir) and /usr.
>
>How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
>
>Thanks
>
>This it taking way too long.
>
>
--
Clayton Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"My mom says I'm the handsomest guy in school."
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From: Nick Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only root can run StarOffice 5.2
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:45:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am having the same problem. I think that the problem is knowing how to
perform the network installation from the .bin files that you can download
from the sun site. I have read about the -net and /Net options but they
make no difference if they are used as parameters to the .bin execution. I
also do not see the screens that the installation guide describes when
attempting a user install following the standard installation. If anyone
has an answer to this question then it would be greatfuly
appreciated........
Nick Evans
giancarlo wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland) wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I don't know have a Staroffice CD. I just downloaded staroffice from
> Sun
> > >Microsystems. I can't find the "setup" from the single downloaded
> file.
> > >What should I do?
> >
> > Run the file how you did to do your initial install but add: -net to
> the
> > end.
> >
> > This makes star office install itself so that other users on the same
> > machine or on other networks can then install a minimum install
> locally
> > while using the rest from the -net isstall.
> >
> > Stick it in /opt/office52 not /root/office52 so everyone can access
> the
> > necessary programs. Then as a user /opt/office52/progra/setup should
> install
> > the workstation setup for the user calling it.
> >
> > Frinky
> >
>
> --
> I tried this and did not work, I ran setup-net as root and it install,
> tnen I loged in as user and try to run setup and get the message that my
> script needs to be fixed, I said ok. and the SO installation windows pop
> up does whatever it does and said that it is completely installed but it
> does not run at all, I downloaded the manual from Sun and I do not see
> the screens that they show in there when I try to do a user install.\
>
> If you have any suggestions I will try them.
>
> Giancarlo Castillo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> .~.
> /V\ L I N U X
> // \\ <Don't fear the penguin>
> /( )\
> ^^-^^
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
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Nick W. D. Evans
Speech and Image Research Group http://galilee.swan.ac.uk
Dept. Electrical & Electronic Engineering Mobile: +44 973 665287
University of Wales, Swansea Tel: +44 1792 295883
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: very old laptop as a car mp3 player running linux
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:54:29 -0400
Yes.
In my pc, i set it's bios to ignore all errors and continue the boot
process.
then I removed the video card, and the keyboard.
So if you can set your laptop to boot ignoring all errors, it should work
fine.
gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have an old P100, 16 megs of RAM, 810 meg hd all inside of a Toshiba
> Satellite laptop. Unfortunately the vid card is going bad (I believe it
> has bad RAM) and I can't get a replacement and can't use the computer
> anymore as the display gets corrupted due to the bad RAM. Linux is
> already on the laptop although I may reinstall if what I'm about to ask
> will work.
>
> Does anyone know if Linux can be installed and especially run without
> having a video card? I was thinking of removing the card and if I
> couldn't rig a replacement which would probably be impossible then
> obviously I'd have to do without one. But if I can do without one then
> it may be a good contender for a car mp3 player as long as I can hookup
> a display to it. I'm still in the preliminary stages of planning this
> but I can't think of anything else to use an old laptop for that has a
> bad video card.
>
> Thanks for any info.
> Brandon
>
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From: "Ed Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape cookies
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:53:56 GMT
I am running netscape 4.73 on a Linux machine and I am trying to find all of
the files that are used to track where I go on the Internet. Internet
Explorer uses a cookie file which also has an Index.dat file to keep track
of the cookies and then in the Temporary Internet Files under Content.IE5
there is also an Index.Dat file that tracks everywhere you go on the
Internet. These index.dat files have to be deleted from within DOS. They can
not be deleted in Windose.
I use Linux (Caldera and Corel versions) on two machines and, so far, I
have not been able to find any files of this type on either system. Any help
will be appreciated..
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From: "Ed Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corel Office 2000 for Linux
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:53:56 GMT
I am using Corel Office 2000 on a Corel Linux machine. When I bring up
WordPerfect9 or Quattropro9 they take around 45 seconds to load. They work
OK after they are loaded but surely there is something that can be done to
make them load faster. Does anyone have any suggestions, if so, I will
appreciate any help.
Thanks,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: gcc compiling error
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:57:19 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Bob Martin> wrote:
>BJW7TOAEM wrote:
>>
>> Ok, before I get flame mail, I am asking this here because it seems like the
>> error I am getting is a general error and is because of some how my Linux
>> system is setup, I am getting similar errors compiling other programs also.
>
>The problem is the missing header files it it complaining about. kdir.h
>is part of kde, and should be in /usr/include/kde. Have you installed
>the kde development packages ?
>--
Those files are being found OK; the ones it can't find are in these lines:
>> /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
>> /usr/include/bits/socket.h:252: asm/socket.h: No such file or directory
These are both inside /usr/src/linux.
Check:
a] /usr/src/linux contains your kernel header files.
b] /usr/src/linux/include/asm is a symlink pointing to the right asm-whatever
for your platform.
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: gnutella client
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:57:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I can't find a Gnutella client that works (under RH6.2). Windows
>Gnutella and Napster (on both platforms) work just fine. Did anyone get
>ANY Linux Gnutellas to work?
>
>Thanks
>
>Wroot
knapster works a treat.
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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