Linux-Misc Digest #317, Volume #19 Fri, 5 Mar 99 11:13:07 EST
Contents:
Kernel 2.2.X Problem(s) (CDROMmount/ISDN) (Daniel Dallmann)
Re: Shooting (Thomas Boggs)
Re: Killing Zombie Processes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion (Jan Vroonhof)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Jason Clifford)
Re: Partitioning question (Peter Buelow)
Just installed Redhat 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: AMD questions (luker)
Re: hard space in WordPerfect8 for Linux (Rod Smith)
Some questions (hardware/software recommendations, issues/concerns, WTB, etc..)
(NeoSoftSys)
Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: scsi cdrom seen by bios, not by linux (Erik Bakker)
Re: Is Red Hat 5.2 worth fifty notes? (Bob Tennent)
Re: Learning Linux (Paul)
Re: lilo gone ("Thomas S. Urban")
Re: Adjust time drift? (Villy Kruse)
Re: Privilages Controls (David Kirkpatrick)
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:49:03 +0100
From: Daniel Dallmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.2.X Problem(s) (CDROMmount/ISDN)
I have 2 annoying problems with the new linux kernels (2.2.0/1/2)
1) if i insert a cd into my SCSI (aic7xxx) CDROM drive (plextor) and
assert a
mount /dev/scd1 /mnt
too early, mount hangs for ever (no way to kill it) and consumes
100% CPU time (State = D disk sleep)
(mount version is 2.9g)
(libc version is 5.4.46)
so far i can remember, this never happened with 2.0.x, 1.2.x kernels
(well i upgraded my system by hand, maybe i missed some
dependencies?
Besides, i read the upgrading instructions very carefully)
2) playing a xquake1.9 network game over my ISDN (ELSA Quickstep ISA
card)
internet connection constantly freezes the whole machine.
(i'm using the hayes-modem emulator to connect to my ISP)
(XFree86 Version 3.3.3)
this may also be a problem with my new ISDN card (i've been playing
the game over a analogous/PPP connection without such a problem for
a while)
How can i track down the 2. problem ?
Is there a way to forward ISDN related
debugging messgaes without delay to a seperate VT100-terminal ?
(i guess the problem is not related to the new kernel, but to my
shift to ISDN)
bye
Daniel
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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shooting
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:03:26 -0500
Oops. Looks like I pressed the wrong button there. Fortunately,
I wasn't sending my credit card info ;)
-thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Killing Zombie Processes
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:05:23 GMT
Try "kill -9 pid" to forcefully kill the process.
Dennis
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:13:59 GMT,
> William T. Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > But this doesn't really kill netscape. Instead,
> > a "zombie" process is left, one that eats up
> > an incredible amount of memory and cpu time.
> > The statistics from running "top" were amazing
> > and the xload tool showed maximum
> > activity.
> >
> > I tried eveything I could think of to "kill" it,
> > such as finding the process ID and issuing
> > "kill xxxx" as root. Nothing worked.
> > In the end, I actually had to reboot.
>
> Icky.
>
> > Now there must be a better way round this
> > mess. I can't believe that Linux requires a
> > reboot to get rid of the remnants of a program
> > that crashed.
>
> It doesn't.
>
> First, what you're describing isn't a zombie. A zombie is a process that
> is not merely broken, but quite dead already and you can't kill it. (The
> parent of the zombie needs to collect the return code from its child and
> until it does so, the zombie will hang around the process table.)
>
> Yours is simply a broken netscape.
>
> These can be slightly tricky to kill in that as of Netscape4, early in
> the startup process Netscape forks into the web browser you see and a
> coprocess that does DNS lookups and such.
>
> You need to kill both of them.
>
> One will ignore you (it traps the signal) and the other will nicely die
> when killed.
>
> Look closer next time and you'll see '(dns helper)', the demon (as opposed
> to daemon) spawn of Netscape.
>
> --
> Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
> Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
>
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion
From: Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 Mar 1999 17:52:28 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> The thought that Mach might be well suited for hosting things like
> databases, treating them at a fairly low level as if they were at the
> same "level" as an OS kernel just recently struck me as a possible
> reason to value the uK approach.
I think at MIT they call this concept "exokernel".
Jan
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1999 17:12:21 +0000
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
>I suppose we should have trademarked "dollar", instead of letting the
>word out under a free license.
>
>Hmm, and if we'd used the GPL, they could use it, but only if they also
>had a president & bicameral congress, rather than Queen & parliament :)
Aside, of course, from the fact that Monarch and Parliament pre-date
president and bicameral congress by many centuries. ;-)
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Peter Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Partitioning question
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:40:59 -0600
Sanjay Rajasekhar wrote:
>
> Configuration:
>
> Hard Disk 2 (Matrox 8.4Gig):
>
> Start Cyl End Cyl Size Partition# OS
> --------------------------------------------------
> hdb1 1 262 ~2G 1 Win95
> hdb2 263 524 ~2G 2 Win95
> hdb3 525 1027 ~4G 3 Linux
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Logical Partitions within Partition 3 (Linux):
> Start Cyl End Cyl Size Mount point
> ---------------------------------------------
> hdb5 525 533 ~64M swap
> hdb6 534 597 ~0.5G /
> hdb7 597 859 ~2.0G /usr
> hdb8 860 1027 ~1.4G /home
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> Linux installed fine.
>
> Problem:
> -------
> Windows sees hdb1 and hdb2 as D: and E: drives,
> respectively. It shows D:'s space as fully available
> but shows 5Meg of E:'s space as used even after
> formatting (with no system files on it). Why is this?
> could this be because of some block boundary problems?
> Any remedy?
>
> Please copy your suggestions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks!
May have something to do with the fact that there was a limitation in
DOS that you couldn't have more than one primary partition that made its
way into 95. The 95 kernel needs to be on the primary partition on the
first drive to work right and it generally may have problems with the
fact that your second partition is also a primary (that's the way it
looks anyway). BTW, where is your C drive? When windows starts, it
should assign the first partition C, second D, and so on.
--
Peter Buelow
Motorola GSM/Bedrock
(847)632-6390
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Just installed Redhat 5.2
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:15:30 GMT
I have 2 questions.(so far)
Actually 3, but I think I may have an answer to my lilo problem. I'll post a
messag if wrong.
Linux can't detect my sound card. I use sndconfig, its PnP but isnt
detected, and when I set up manually I get device or resource busy. My sound
card came built onto my motherboard(I didn't ask for it, but I got it). When
I boot, pnp lists it as CMI8330. Windows has it listed as 2 sound drivers.
WSS, with Input/Output of 0530-0537 and 0388-038F, IRQ of 11, and DMA of 00.
SB16, with Input/Output of 0220-022F, IRQs of 05 and 01, and DMA of 05 Is
there a "quick" fix to this, or a hard one. Do I have to make a custom
kernel? If so, how much different is a linux kernel than a bsd?
My college uses Novell's border manager(IPX), patched into the dorms via 3Com
3c509b. Is there a way to connect with linux, or am i stuck with windows?
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From: luker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD questions
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:30:32 -0600
Jason Clifford wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, J Schenk wrote:
>
> > Does anyone use an Amd k6-2 and have problems.
> > A message in another news group said that There were many problems with
> > the Amd relating to incorrect irq redirecting
> > causing a limit to only use vga mode opperation. is this true and is
> > there any other problems.
I am Running RH5.2 on an AMD K6-2/350 with a S3 Virge/GX card, and I can
only run XF86_VGA16. I thought it was the card! If what you are saying
turns out to be the case, PLEASE let me know. I have been fighting this
for several months now. Thanks.
luker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.apps.corel
Subject: Re: hard space in WordPerfect8 for Linux
Date: 5 Mar 1999 14:32:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Rodgers) writes:
> Does anyone know how to insert a hard space in
> WordPerfect8 for Linux? I'd like to avoid numbers
> getting separated from the corresponding words
> by a soft line break. Instead of 'there are 7
> words', I'd prefer 'there are
> 7 words'
> And how does the same thing work for hyphens?
Hard space: <Ctrl-Space Bar>
Hard hyphen: <Ctrl--> (<Ctrl-Hyphen>)
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NeoSoftSys)
Subject: Some questions (hardware/software recommendations, issues/concerns, WTB,
etc..)
Date: 4 Mar 1999 18:39:19 GMT
I have a few questions. I run a mail server(pop accnts) on a NT box. I use to
have my own Linux box but that was sold. So, now I want to move my mail server
to Linux. But, I also want to be able to do a few things other than serv mail.
I want to use terminal/serial cards(isa/pci), raid(http://www.arcoide.com I saw
recommended), use of either a Oxygen or Intergraph video card. My current setup
is:
Pentium II 233MHz
96mb ram
9gig scsi hd
2x/4x HP SureStore cd-r
I can't find any drivers for my scsi card, so I will have to get a new scsi
card. So, I am wondering if people can make some recommendations for hardware I
am looking for. (also, any good grphical front-end to cd-record? or any good
cd-r apps?)
This is what I want:
Oxygen, Intergraph, or other Professional 3D Cards(is there a driver for the
Intergraph 3D Pro 20mb PCI? or any Oxygen cards(Oxygen 402 Quad Open GL, 102,
etc.?) But the g200 agp is supported? (matrox)
Camera (Quickcam? what interface?) I am looking for still/video/conferencing
A Linux supported dual Pentium II/III mother board(any one selling a P-II
233MHz cpu?)
RAID controller (http://www.arcoide.com a good choice?)
Also, a pop mail server for Linux that is easy to use. I know how to do
webbased email using sendmail, but I don't want that. I want to just serv pop
accnts and also to be able to easily add other pop accnts(free email, so you
can just sign up and the info gets added to the database). Use IMail server 4.2
and 5 for NT, so you get an idea of what I am used to.
Also, this box will be on a dedicated connection to the internet to serv mail,
but I also want to use it for personal use at the same time (compiling,
video-conferencing, newsreading, games, office productivity, etc.) So what do
you see as my experience being with my current hardware? (P-II 233mhz, 96mb
ram, scsi) How about running as a secondary DNS also?
Also, I want to add termial/serial cards to run xterms off of, and maybe have
some diskless clients. (please recommend!)
How about dual monitor support( I have two 20"..), and video capture? (link me
to what's a supported config or hardware).
How about TV-in/out? I wouldn't mind watching Cable TV while I am downloading!
My biggest concern is can I do everything I want on one box? And for links(even
offers) of hardware I am looking for that is supported under Linux. Use is fine
with me, as I can't spend too much.
Also, I know SGI is/has porting Linux to Indy's, but how about an Octane?
Please cc me any posts...comp.os.linux.* runs alot of traffic and I don't want
to miss any replies.
Also, if you think your system rocks, send me your configuration and which
distrubution you are running.
P.S...I am filled with questions..how about webpage templates? If I was to
offer webpages, is there anything like webpage templates for new users? (like
geocities.com has) for people who do not know html. And also, the popserver and
down the road, the webpage template/geocities thing will be used by Windows
user(just in case your recommendation was only a Linux-Linux thing..I need a
Linux-Linux/Windows/Mac/NeXT/Irix/etc thing)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion
Date: 5 Mar 1999 09:14:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels) writes:
>> Seriously, I'd like to see a system that extends itself based
>> on the stuff (for lack of a better word) the user runs. Where
>> you'd select the editor across the system, and all editing
>> activities happen through that editor (like installing Word
>> and having vi as editor).
>
> This is more of a desktop-implementation issue than an OS issue.
You're quite right (I said that before <g>), but an OS is more than
a kernel. With the Mac and Windows, we lost the advantages of
stdin and stdout. I'm always amazed that people accept to act
as interfaces between programs. When I do something more than
once, I script it; many Windows users go through asinine routines
like the one I'm seeing daily:
use 3270 emulator to run job on mainframe
use GUIFTP to transfer file from mainframe
use GUI program to build EDIFACT envelope around said file
use GUI mail program to attach resulting EDIFACT message
to an email
and the converse at the opposite end of the transfer.
All the programs mentioned above (exception made for the 3270
emulator) use MFC, and have been developed in an OO languages
of sorts. Not a pretty picture.
> As a side note: Gnome 1.0 is out.
I noticed - now to find the time to install it without disrupting
my daily routine too much (I'm holding down 1.5 jobs, hence my
play-time is seriously reduced :-(
...snippage...
> No, I believe that abstraction to the point of a file is sufficient.
Most of the time I think so myself - until I get confronted with the
Windows registry.
...snippage...
> I agree with your desire to have this functionallity, but I don't
> think we need to scrap UNIX in order to do it. A uK does not make
> this any easier either.
Agreed.
--
Stefaan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:18:01 GMT
On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:12:17 GMT, Mark Mokryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> >i can understand linus completely. do you remember 16 bit segment
>> >hell? i sure do. i never want to see that kind of brain damage ever
>> >again as long as i live. far pointers are a monumental crock. shame
>> >on you for even bringing it up!
>> >
>> >what would want a larger address space? most likely, it'd be a single
>> >massive program like a number cruncher or database application. you
>> >would have near and far 32 bit and 32+32 bit pointers. it would suck
>> >royally. it'd break all the assumptions that linux makes (basically
>> >all memory is accessible by a 32 bit pointer).
>> >
>> >if you need more address space, get a 64 cpu! for someone really
>> >needing the 36 bit space, the cost of an alpha or sparc is *not*
>> >prohibitive.
>>
>> It's fair enough for someone to want to build a 36 bit Linux port, so
>> long as they're willing to take responsibility for:
>> a) Writing it,
>> b) Rewriting GLIBC to use 36 bit values,
>> c) Creating a 36 bit distribution.
>
>The Xeon is not a "36-bit" machine, whatever that is... It merely has a
>36-bit physical address bus.
That can be interpreted as meaning it supports 36 bit address spaces, so it
is a true statement.
It works in much the same way as, back in the "good old days," you had to
reprogram applications on the 8088 so as to support 20 bits worth of address
space using segment registers.
I am less than intimately-knowledgeable about that; I preferred at the time,
as a "Motorola-partisan," to skip over the grunginess of having to
continually write extra code just to address memory.
>The extended address space is achieved via
>modifications to page table entries, i.e. it is a question of how the CPU
>interprets the PTE's. The CPU can be switched between the different paging
>modes.
... And, for that memory space to be generally usable, will have to be
continually switched between the paging modes ...
>The Xeon, like all x86's, is a 32-bit machine. For the large part, the
>code needing modification is kernel code that deals with physical addresses.
Nope. It will intrude on all user code as well, because user code deals
with logical addresses, which must be mapped to physical addresses, and
therefore need to have an isomorphism to do so, ergo the compiler must be
modified to use the 36 bit addressing mode, libraries must be modified to
use the 36 bit addressing mode, and applications must be modified to use the
36 bit addressing mode.
>Depending on the architecture of Linux (which I am not familiar with), this
>may or may not be a ton of work.
It's a ton of work that pushes its way all the way from user applications on
through the "tool stream" to libraries, compilers, and the kernel.
Addressing is quite entirely pervasive.
>But in any case, from what I've heard in this discussion, Linux cannot even
>utilize more than 1 or 2 GB (depending who you ask) of physical memory, on
>ANY architecture. Why? This will seriously hurt Linux in the server arena.
>From what you've heard.
The only things you've heard are comment concerning trying to support more
than 32 bits worth of memory addressing on 32 bit systems.
Linux has been doing 36-bit addressing on Alpha for a while now. There are
vendors selling machines with as much as 4GB of RAM. (Note that you can
only hold as much RAM as the motherboard can hold, based on the sizing of
available slots.) (See: <http://www.aspsys.com>)
It does not seem to be a reasonable idea to start tying the OS to an
odd-ball addressing mode that will hurt portability later, particularly
when:
a) There are on the order of a dozen architectures that Linux runs on,
b) various of which *do* support large memory spaces,
c) It appears likely that Xeon is merely a transitional processor to tide
people over until IA-64 becomes available.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Erik Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: scsi cdrom seen by bios, not by linux
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:16:25 +0100
that ok
during installation you will only see the harddisk partitions (not the
cdrom)
you can just continue it wil automaticily see the cdrom drive .....
Erik "i have 2x2940 in my system and no problems at al with cdrom
drives"Bakker
Mike Hom wrote:
> I have a PC I've been tasked with setting up Linux on and I'm stuck.
> The Adaptec 2940UW finds the Matshita CR-506 in its bios scan
> but when Linux installation probes the 2940 it only sees hda (HD)
> while OS/2 sees it fine. I tried passing max_scsi_lun=6 and changing
> the 2940 bios configurations but nothing. Dejanews shows that others
> have installed on this cdrom but I can't. Help?
>
> Mike
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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Is Red Hat 5.2 worth fifty notes?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 15:07:40 GMT
On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:21:21 -0500, Harry wrote:
>
>My local bookshop, Mahler's in Newbury, is selling boxed copies of
>Red Hat 5.2 for fifty squid (about eighty dollars). As I'm running
>5.1 and would like upgrade to 5.2 for it's (I'm told) better PCI
>support etc, I'm considering the investment.
>
>But is it worth it? A quick shake of the celophane-wrapped box
>reaved it to contain printed documentation, CD-ROM(s), and loose
>bits of paper (probably registration) - is extra stuff from what
>you'd get from a download worth the money?
>
You should be able to get a CD from cheapbytes or linuxmall for
much less and save yourself a big download.
Bob T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul)
Subject: Re: Learning Linux
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:14:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
'A practical guide to Linux' by Mark G. Sobell, published by
Adison-Wesley might be worth a look
On 28 Feb 1999 15:31:36 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I got into Linux primarily because I found the prospect of *learning* and
>*understanding* what was going on inside my box irresistible - but I am
>having a difficult time finding a good source of information. The Matt
>Welsh book put out by O'Reilly was really good, but a little dated. I
>also tried SAMS' 'Unleashed' book, but the writing is terrible, and too
>much of that book is 'How to do this...' I want to know how this works!
>Since I was actually raised on MS-DOS, the command-line is not totally new
>to me, and I have some background in C, just to give you an idea of where
>I'm coming from.
>
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From: "Thomas S. Urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo gone
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:10:06 GMT
Jason Rotunno wrote:
>
> i have a machine which is dual boot linux/95. i reformatted and
> reinstalled the 95 partition. doing this wrote over the MBR (is this
> right?) so that now the machine boots directly into 95 w/ running lilo to
> select which OS to boot into. how is it possible to restore lilo. now
> that i think about it...maybe booting off a linux boot disk, mounting the
> linux partition and reinstalling lilo...?
Bingo - that's exactly what you need to do. Because
reinstall Windows is a regular maintenance feature,
you'll get very good at this simple procedure.
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Adjust time drift?
Date: 4 Mar 1999 19:55:00 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stef writes:
>> My machine drifts about 30 seconds every day. So I have a daily cron job
>> that performs a rdate. But 30 seconds is quite a lot. Is there a better
>> possibility to adjust the system time?
>
>Install chrony. It is available as a Debian package in unstable
>(www.debian.org) or in a tarball from the usual ftp sites. I don't know if
>there is an rpm package.
>
There is:
at ftp://contrib.redhat.com in the libc6 directory
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mirror archive 238393 Jun 24 1998 chrony-1.0-2.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mirror archive 174290 Jun 24 1998 chrony-1.0-2.i386.rpm
Villy
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Privilages Controls
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:36:14 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Its a little difficult to give an overview but one is available
if you loaded the sag documentation - System Administrators
Guide. see /usr/doc/LDP/sag/index.html its very nice and has
sections devoted to this.
Users can be put into groups and group permissions can be
tailored. You make a user account with adduser xxx then passwd
xxx which makes an entry in /etc/passwd. See man adduser and
passwd. The sag will explain how to tailor permissions for
users/accounts etc.
"Jayasuthan [VorHacker]" wrote:
>
> Hi Netlanders,
>
> I been using Linux for 8 months and I have a good question. How linux
> system manage privillages. All I know is root is the king of system. How
> about others. I been working on vms system for 2 year, on this system
> System Admin. can assign privilages for other lets say operator.... have
> bypass privs, this because operator does backup and operator can bypass
> all permission control.
>
> Please help me out here.. I want to assign certain user to work close with
> linux server without using ROOT.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
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