Linux-Misc Digest #333, Volume #19 Sat, 6 Mar 99 14:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: Open source MS bad for Linux? (Harry)
Re: Is there a linux for a palmtop? (gene)
can not install Linux: CD-ROM-Problem with Debian 2.0r3 (zlep)
Re: Screen Configuration (Frank da Cruz)
Re: Partition Magic? (wbg)
Re: user web pages (Geoff Short)
Re: More bad news for NT (Walter Strong)
Re: Linux on HP Vectra 486 XM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems with NE2000 modules (Edward Nather)
Re: Text editors (jik-)
Re: why is compiling (and installation) so difficult ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Any email clients than can directly talk to an Exchange server_ ("Martin Knoblauch")
Stupid Newbie tricks (Add this to list) (Pete Tolen)
Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ?????????? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Could some kind soul help me sort out my libs? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems with NE2000 modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: equivalent of edit? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Justin Murdock)
Re: Public license question (Barry Margolin)
Re: Public license question (Barry Margolin)
Re: Upgrade to libc6 (Jason Ogren)
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 12:05:32 -0500
> I think I've got a good knowledge of computers < knowing about a fe
> 17-year-old high school student <
Ummm. I wouldn't say I've got a good knowledge of computers, and
I've worked in the industry for a decade. Thing is, I've never d
worked on OS/400, or on BeOS, or on an SP system, and my n
mainframe experience dates back to when I was at university and
wouldn't be very relevant today. Normally I'd say I've got a good
knowledge of computers, but when it comes to comparing platforms,
knowing about a few doesn't really count for much.r 8$�| Though we ma
As for Linux being faster than Windows - faster than which f1
version, on what hardware, and running what apps? And with or mwouldn
without X? I first installed Red Hat Linux on a 486DX4 with 16 MB
RAM and 1 MB on board graphics. Under X it ran unacceptably 1
slowly, too slow to be of any use. NT 4 Worstation ran just fine
on the same system. How does this square up with all the s
unqualified statements about Linux wiping the floor with NT I've
read in this thread?t
Harryi
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Open source MS bad for Linux?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 12:15:52 -0500
Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:(
> Am I the only one cynical enough to consider it possible that
> Gate$ has secretly sponsored the recent linux publicitye
> extravaganza in order to show that there indeed ARE othert1
> viable operating systems and that M$ is therefore not a r� �theref
> monopoly?e
Alas no! When the Halloween documents surfaced, a number of h mpreten
industry commentators (including Simon Moores, I think, in 1
JavaVision) noticed the convenience of the disclosure to MS. I
think that's why the Halloween documents haven't attracted more
publicity. I myself think that, while MS is making the most of ,
pretending to be concerned about Linux's threat, Linux actually
*does* pose a competitive threat to MS.s
Harry*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (gene)
Subject: Re: Is there a linux for a palmtop?
Date: 6 Mar 1999 17:20:35 GMT
>>I'd like to run linux on a personal organizer type
>>machine:
>
> The Toshiba Libretto is one candidate; the NEC Ready 120LT is a
> (slightly larger) alternative.
Toshiba has, in no uncertain terms, refused to support the Linux
community. I for one will not purchase a toshiba product until this
situation changes for the better.
Try this:
http://ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca/uClinux
or this:
http://www.bromcom.com/linux/
--
::::: Gene Imes http://www.ozob.net :::::
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 18:36:53 +0100
From: zlep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can not install Linux: CD-ROM-Problem with Debian 2.0r3
hi, can U help me?
I want to install debian Linux 2.0r3 on my old 486-33.
I have this old SONY CDU31a CD-ROM drive.
I read on HOWTO-CD, that debian supports this proprietary
CD-ROM-interface, and found drivers(c-source-code) on the Web.
When I tried to install linux I did the following:
- boot from DOS-floppy with a DOS-CD-ROM driver.
- start the installation from CD-ROM, partition the harddisk, etc.
- but if I get to the step of installation where Operating Kernel and
Modules should be installed from CD, the program asks me to choose the
type of my CD-interface.
- SCSI and ATAPI (IDE) does not work (of course).
- If I choose "proprietary CD interface", the program asks me for a
driver on a floppy, but i have only this driver in source-code on my
other PC(win95)??
How can I get this thing work?
please leave me a mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you
Christian
zlep
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Screen Configuration
Date: 6 Mar 1999 17:55:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Hedger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: When I start Kermit (under Redhat Linux 5.2), it complains about not
: being able to recognise my terminal type - I've tried all the obvious
: terminal types - which ones can I use? Or can I get it to recognise
: xterm? This is the output I get:
:
: Warning: terminal type unknown: "xterm"
: Fullscreen file transfer display disabled.
: Executing /etc/kermit/ckermit.ini for UNIX ...
: Sorry, terminal type unknown: "xterm"
: Executing /etc/kermit/ckermit.local.ini ...
:
At startup, C-Kermit calls getenv("TERM") to find out your terminal type.
Then it calls tgetent() on the result to make sure it can use the curses
library, since if you try to initialize curses with an unknown terminal
type, it can halt the application. However in your case, tgetent() says
it never heard of "xterm".
With all the confusion amongst Linux versions and packages over the
[n]curses, terminfo, and termcap libraries (not to mention libc vs glibc),
I'm not surprised, but there's not much I can do about it. It works
everywhere else.
It's a Linux configuration problem. "man tgetent" for further info.
Hmmm, well I just tried that on RH 5.2 and there is no man entry. Nor is
there an "info tgetent" entry.
In any case, if there is some "new way" of determining in advance if it's
safe to initialize curses in Linux, I'd like to hear about it.
- Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wbg)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition Magic?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 15:18:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey!
>
> What is the recomended Boot/partition Manager for multi OS'?
>
> TIA
>
> Mike
I give Boot Manager (orig. from OS/2) from Partition Magic high marks.
I've never had the slightest bit of trouble with it, running three
different OSes. I'm about to launch Red Hat on a second spindle, and
am inclined to skip LILO as primary BM and stick with Boot Mangler,
letting it pass control to LILO for Linux startup. As far as I can tell
it should work fine that way. And if you don't already have Partition Magic,
you should anyway!
Brewster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Short)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: user web pages
Date: 5 Mar 1999 15:38:38 GMT
: > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:53:02 -0500
: > From: D E G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >
: > i know this is supposed to be really simple, but i'm having major
: > problems seting up user web pages (ie www.../~user =
: > /home/user/public_html). i'm running apache on rh5.2
: >
: > whenever i try to access the page i get:
: > Forbidden
: >
: > You don't have permission to access /~user/ on this server
: >
: > (and yes i do have the proper permissions set on the files)
Is the user's home directory readable?
Geoff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: 6 Mar 1999 17:51:24 GMT
Harry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[snipped]
: As for Linux being faster than Windows - faster than which f1
: version, on what hardware, and running what apps? And with or mwouldn
: without X? I first installed Red Hat Linux on a 486DX4 with 16 MB
: RAM and 1 MB on board graphics. Under X it ran unacceptably 1
: slowly, too slow to be of any use. NT 4 Worstation ran just fine
: on the same system. How does this square up with all the s
: unqualified statements about Linux wiping the floor with NT I've
: read in this thread?t
: Harryi
That's strange, I'm running Slak3.5 on a DX66, 16mb and a 20 mb swap and
the performance is fantastic. Much, much better than win95 on the same
machine, and there's no point comparing it to win3.1. The problem is
that most people here, including myself, speak from personal experience
and that isn't enough to provided unqualified evidence for anything.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux on HP Vectra 486 XM
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:32:22 GMT
It's an AM1500T/AM2100 compatible chipset. Don't know where you'd get the
driver though. HW settings in the BIOS for the NIC cfg.
In article <7bjgql$2t4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to install Linux on a HP Vectra 486 XM but unable to find an
> ethernet driver for the Integrated Network Card.
>
> AMD chip AM79C960K
>
> Any Ideas ?
>
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From: Edward Nather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with NE2000 modules
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 10:04:59 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 01 Mar 1999 21:56:34 +0000, Tom Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Greetings,
> >
> >I'm having some trouble using my new ISA Ethernet card. I'm running 2.2.1
> >with NE2000 (ISA) compiled as module. However modprobe refuses to
> >insert it; insmod 8390.o is fine, but when I insmod ne.o I get a seg
> >fault, regardless of what I set io=0x00 or irq= or whatever.
> >
> >Any ideas would be appreciated! Otherwise I'll be stuck using Windows
> >for my d/ls :( (The card works under 95)
> >
>
I'd guess you have the card parameters set so that modprobe can't
find it. In my case I booted windows95 with the Plug-n-Play enabled,
then explored a bit and found it had been inserted at Io=0x240, Irq=10.
I went to the (DOS) card setup program and disabled PNP, and inserted
these two values manually. Windows95 could not find the card, but
modprobe (run as root) could. It wrote a file (/etc/modules.conf)
with these parameters entered. Afterwards, I found I could turn PNP
back on, and W95 could find it, and modprobe could still insert it.
The card is not detected on bootup, but I can insert it later.
ed
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Text editors
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:14:25 -0800
Goran Allerbo wrote:
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > I've just installed Red Hat 5.2. I am wondering if there is any
> > window-based editors.
> > I'm looking for an editor that works like textedit or jot on other UNIX
> > workstations or something like notepad in Windows95/98. Something simple
> > to create .txt, .html or .c files. Please help.
> >
> > Thank You
> > GK
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For a plain text editor I actually liked 'textedit' the best. It uses
the openlook toolkit and at least used to come on slackware...don't know
if it does anymore, I am fully Xemacs integrated, damn thing does
everything :P
for html and language files Xemacs is the greatest, it does syntax
coloring, has multi-buffers, split windows, a shitload of keyboard
shortcuts,..info front end, command line, terminal emulator,....object
browser...web browser, news reader, email, cvs frontend,...god you name
it, it does it.
Though the web browser sucks, and the news and email is not the
greatest,...sending messages is like editing a text file, you 'edit' the
header like part of the file instead of filling feilds, but it works
just as good...you actually get more control that way.
Xemacs is also a Lisp interpreter, so you can extend it any way you
want...people have written Tetris in elisp for Xemacs. Its an amazing
device.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: why is compiling (and installation) so difficult
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:39:26 GMT
Thank you, nedit now works. I have checked the the files of nedit
package and found out that they have some wired SuSe specific
connections. Another rpm package (not done for SuSe 6.0) works fine
for my RedHat 5.2 distribution.
Best regards,
Christian
On 4 Mar 1999 00:56:37 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
wrote:
>> Installation of nedit.rpm worked
>> fine, but trying to start the software produced an "undefined symbol
>> error: register frame info".
>
>This is a symptom of moving binaries between systems with
>differently-compiled libraries, e.g., taking a binary compiled
>with egcs on a system with egcs-compiled glibc and trying to run
>it on a system with gcc-compiled glibc. (Not easy to describe!)
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From: "Martin Knoblauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any email clients than can directly talk to an Exchange server_
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:40:25 +0100
Hi,
are there any email clients for Linux that can directly/natively
talk to an Exchange server? I am not interested in POP or IMAP
access.
Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Tolen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Stupid Newbie tricks (Add this to list)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:10:06 GMT
I'm sure someone is compiling a "Stupid Linux Newbie Tricks" list.
Here is an addition:
Issuing the 'shutdown now' command from an xterm window while running
X.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: viewing non ascii attatchments with pine ??????????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:38:21 GMT
"Joe (theWordy) Philbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [VIEWER Result: sh: /usr/bin/shownonascii: No such file or directory]
> What is /usr/bin/shownonascii supposed to be anyway???
Part of metamail, a suite of programs that do exactly what you are trying to do
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Could some kind soul help me sort out my libs?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:34:37 GMT
Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I compiled and installed glib and gtk+ 1.2 about a week ago when they
> came out. By default they installed into /usr/local/lib. Yesterday I
> got the new Gnome 1.0 which also came with glib and gtk+ 1.2 however
> the rpm's put them into /usr/lib. So now I have two copies of these
> libs on my system. This raises a couple questions
> 1> Besides hd space is this a bad thing?
Not really, but it makes for an untidy file system and you end up asking
yourself questions like:
> 2>Can I simply remove the ones in /usr/local since I now have a copy +
> the devel libs in /usr?
Yes, but ensure you remove all the components that may have been installed.
Did you install just runtime libs, or did it install headers file and stuff
as well ?
> 3>Which is the preferred place to put these things? Or does it matter?
/usr/local is for stuff that didn't come with the distribution. Thus when
you rolled them yourself, that's where they went. Official RPM's will go
into the main file system.
> 4>How can I tell which libs are being used?
Use ldd on a binary that uses that lib
> 5>Should I look before I leap next time or just dive in like I have
> been doing? :-)
It's not generally a good idea to mix non managed packages with official
versions. If you must, keep track of what has been installed that the
package management isn't aware of so you can remove it more easily at a
later date.
Jason.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with NE2000 modules
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:00:23 GMT
On 01 Mar 1999 21:56:34 +0000, Tom Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I'm having some trouble using my new ISA Ethernet card. I'm running 2.2.1
>with NE2000 (ISA) compiled as module. However modprobe refuses to
>insert it; insmod 8390.o is fine, but when I insmod ne.o I get a seg
>fault, regardless of what I set io=0x00 or irq= or whatever.
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated! Otherwise I'll be stuck using Windows
>for my d/ls :( (The card works under 95)
>
I have a isa ne2000 pnp card. Just go into windows and see what
settings are being used. Then set your isapnp.conf file to
set your card to that irq and io port.
Also there is a couple of tricky lines in the isapnp.conf file
for an isapnp ne2000 card. At the bottom, there are
a couple of commented lines. Something about
"bru upper limit" or "lower" (sorry this is from memory).
One of them should be uncommented, and if it
dosn't work that way, then recomment it, and uncomment the
other. One of them works, the other won't.
Also, put the following in your /etc/conf.modules:
alias eth0 ne
options ne irq=yourirq io= whatever
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:00:22 GMT
On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:25:41 GMT, Wulin Suo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Can someone please tell why when I visit the freshmeat.net with Netscape
>it crashes all the time?
>I had that trouble when I use netscape 4.08, and got worse after I
>installed netscape 4.5.
>When I check the log file it says "bus error". So far this site is
>the only place that crashes my
>navigator.
>
>Am I missing some library?
>
Netscape 4.5 was very buggy for me when using libc5
under the 2.036 kernel. It gave the "bus error" crash, and
would crash clicking on "mailto". It was the libc5 version
of Netscape4.5.
When I upgraded to suse6 with libc6, and the 2.2.1
kernel, Netscape4.5 runs perfectly. It is the libc6 version.
I do notice on bootup, that my motherboard's PCI-bridge
is detected by the 2.2.1 kernel. Could that be a clue
to the bus-error message?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: equivalent of edit?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:00:24 GMT
On 3 Mar 1999 22:22:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ErickShun6) wrote:
>I know it's kinda a stupid question but what is the equvalent of edit in linux?
If you want something that is really close to "edit", and is super
easy to use; try mcedit. It is part of the Midnight Commander
package.
Just type mcedit on the command line.
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From: Justin Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 05 Mar 1999 15:44:46 +0000
>>>>> "Johan" == Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Johan> in the uk, the shifted three gives the proper pound symbol and
Johan> what in the us is displayed as # is in the uk shown as the
Johan> wacky L.
Whilst you might call me a pedant, I wish to inform you that being in
the UK has no effect on the outcome of pressing Shift and 3. However
many of the toy computers sold in this country have weird keyboards
that are have an enter/return key shaped like an L but rotated through
180 degrees, and many of the non alpha-numerics printed in strange
locations - including the $; this in turn has caused many users to
load keyboard mappings into their system; which results in an
appearance of computers behaving differently. Also, regardless of
where you might be located, the character indicating the start of a
directive to the C preprocessor is that denoted by a the symbol
reminiscent of a house surrounded by eight fields.
--
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means of communication." --Western Union internal memo,1876
"[We] are too possessive for this CERN hypertext thing to catch on" --me,1990
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:04:29 GMT
In article <8%YD2.70611$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Seawood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Barry Margolin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: >It doesn't make sense for his control of his work to depend on this either.
>:
>: He's the one who was purported to be writing a program that's dependent on
>: a GPLed library, and was trying to use dynamic linking as a loophole around
>
>If another non-GPL'd library could potentially be used instead of the
>GPL'd one, then his work isn't dependent upon it. But what you're saying
>is that the mere potential isn't enough. So what if someone provided a
>dummy libreadline that contains all of the hooks and public API needed
>to use the program w/o using libreadline? The mere existance of this
>dreadline should not determine whether or not the program in question
>is dependent upon readline.
If this "dummy libreadline" doesn't actually do anything, then no one would
actually consider linking against it to make the program do what it's
supposed to do, so it's irrelevant. We're talking about a situation where
someone distributes a program that has to be linked with a GPLed library in
order to function properly. If the program were linked with dreadline it
wouldn't do so, and the documentation would presumably not mention this as
part of its installation instructions. Someone would have to create a
functional replacement for libreadline, and then the program would no
longer be effectively derived from libreadline.
>I think this is a case where the ambiguity of copyright law wrt software
>works against the goals of RMS. Rather than ignore the ambiguity or
>say that a certain action is against the "spirit of copyright law",
>perhaps the GPL should explicitly close that loophole.
Using what mechanism? The GPL is only enforceable by virtue of copyright
law. Although it refers to itself as a license, I suspect that it would
be considered as unenforceable as a shrinkwrap license. But copyright law
provides the basis for setting restrictions on copying.
All that RMS is doing is claiming that two activities should be considered
legally equivalent if they're functionally equivalent. Dynamic and static
linking are functionally equivalent if there's no alternative library,
hence the resulting program should be considered a derivative of the
library in both cases.
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:08:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>RMS is wrong about the 'spirit' of the copyright. Copyright was created
>for the pourpose of inovation...and here is were it really goes away
>from his ideas...
I think it actually plays right into his ideas. If RMS couldn't use
copyright to spread his notion of software freedom, he wouldn't have
innovated as much software, and others wouldn't have built from it.
If dynamic linking means that RMS has less say over how his libraries are
to be used, I suspect he'll stop producing libraries.
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Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GTE Internetworking, Powered by BBN, Burlington, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
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From: Jason Ogren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade to libc6
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 12:39:36 -0600
"Frederick V. Heitkamp" wrote:
>
> Fung Wai Keung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Hi,
> :
> : I'm using RedHat 4.2 (ie. with libc5 C library). I'm planning to
> : upgrade my C library to libc6. Where can I download all the necessary rpm
> : packages for the upgrade so that my system will run smoothly? I heard
> : that there will be problems in utmp/wtmp when programs that access the
> : utmp/wtmp file and have mismatch libc are run. How to avoid this problem
> : during the migration to libc6? Is it necessary to upgrade my gcc compiler
> : and binutils for the libc upgrade?
>
> Yes. You have to upgrade many files if you want to use glibc-2.0 or
> glibc-2.1 as your primary libs. Believe me it is a *major* pain to
> upgrade from libc-5 to libc-6. First have a resque partition,
> because you will not be able to boot you new installation. What I
> did was make a cross compiler libc-5 to libc-6. You have to compile
> the glibc-2.1 sources first. After doing that (and I left out a lot
> of steps) You have to compile critical system files either static
> or with your cross compiler or you system may not boot. These files
> are like bash, login, getty, init, ls, ln, and others.
>
> There may be an easier way. I'm pretty dumb about UNIX and Linux so
> I assume there is. One other way I'm aware of but did not try is
> to use glibc-2.1 as the secondary library installed in /usr/local/.
> Then it is possible to compile new binaries against them. I guess
> once you get critical system files recompile, you could convert
> the secondary library to your primary library.
>
> Probably best to get a glibc-2.1 based distribution and start over.
>
> --
> Fred
I just upgraded from libc5 to glibc with a RH 4.2 install. Worked
fine. You don't have to worry about your old files failing if you save
the old libc5 files under a new directory so that anything you have
compiled against libc5 can still find the files it need to link to.
See: http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis/glibc/Glibc2-HOWTO.html
Explains this very well with step by step instructions.
Jason
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