Linux-Misc Digest #786, Volume #19 Thu, 8 Apr 99 15:13:08 EDT
Contents:
FDisk error ("The AXE")
Re: Cannot solve Kernel Panic (root)
Re: Running as root? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Benjamin K. Belton)
Crashes with general protection: 0000 (Andy Kowalski)
Re: Crashes with general protection: 0000 ("pv")
Really strange problem (mike dombrowski)
Netscape (glibc2) hangs on startup when not connected to the net!!! ("Thomas T.
Veldhouse")
Affordable Linux support for home users and small offices (A Dark Elf)
Re: Is Linux safe from viruses like Melissa ? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: Running as root? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: C/C++:IDE ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: Emacs; is there a third way? (Hal Sadofsky)
Re: NTFS vs EXT2 ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: Is Linux safe from viruses like Melissa ? (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Running as root? ("J�rgen Exner")
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From: "The AXE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FDisk error
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:40:08 +0100
can anyone please help? i tried to install Redhat 5.2 but it didn't go to
well. i tried to reinstall but now it gives me a fdisk error details is as
follows ; " An error occured reading the partition table for the block
device hda. The error was:: No such file or directory". it gives me an
option to skip drive but then it promts with another error message :" An
error occured - no valid devices were found on which to create new
filesystems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem"
i'm quite new to pc's but would ove to get Linux working. does this mean
that my harddrive is bust? please, can someone help???
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Cannot solve Kernel Panic
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:06:05 GMT
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I am pretty sure o whattte problem is, but you probaby already fixed it... if
you stillned he dropp me a line nd il help you mmediatey..
Bruno Barberi Gnecco wrote:
> I'm installing kernel 2.2.4, and got this kernel panic when booting:
>
> [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 16,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
> [me=0x0,cs=4640,#101,fs=59898,fl=1562984,ds=159559682,de=29806,data=159561596,
> se=35328,ts=1835102817,ls=29797,rc=0,fc=4294967295]
> Transaction block size = 512
> [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 16,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
> [me=0x0,cs=4640,#101,fs=59898,fl=1562984,ds=159559682,de=29806,data=159561596,
> se=35328,ts=1835102817,ls=29797,rc=0,fc=4294967295]
> Transaction block size = 512
> Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:03
>
> I have one HD, 6.8Gb, on hda, partitioned in three. cylinders,
> head, sectors are 789,255,63. I also would like to note that the new IDE
> driver does not seems to work, as the boot locks just after Uncompressing
> kernel (so, I'm using the old one). hda1 and hda2 are VFAT, and hda3 is
> ext2 (where linux is). Any ideas?
>
> --
> Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
> Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #1383173 - PGP 5.0i user
> [I'm running Linux] -=-=- Electric Engineering at Politechnic School, USP
> http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/ * Check for C, 3D graphics, etc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: 8 Apr 1999 16:33:17 GMT
On Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:07:19 GMT, oak wrote:
>The problems with not running as root get old after a while; ppp,
Use kppp and make pppd SUID.
>floppy and other devices,
use autofs to automatically mount removable media
> installing software, etc.
This is about the only thing you need root for ( besides configuring
software )
>system I just reinstall from the cd - I keep confuration files
>backed-up along with my data. I haven't had to do that yet but that's
yeah, but it's a pain in the butt to do this.
>when trying out untrusted software. That's rather a pain, I'd actually
>like to be able to compile and install software as a regular user but
>most software is preconfigured to be compiled and installed as root
>and to be put in /usr/local which a regular user doesn't have access
>to. So if the software doesn't blow up my system then I go back and do
>it again as root......is there an easier way? Now as I understand it
Build it in your user account. With a lot of software, you don't need to
run "make install" to install it, you just find the right executable and
run it ( though you may need to set an environment variable or too to
get this to work )
Another thing you can do is do something like this :
make PREFIX=test install
and it will install the software under a directory called "test".
Then you can test it until you are ready.
>if I install hacked software as root that software inherits root
>priviledges and can cause major damage whereas if compile install and
>run software as a regular user that software can only mess up the
>user's account. It would be nice if I could compile and install
>software as a user then make it available to all....
You can. Just install under your home directory ( eg in
${HOME}/software) and then other users can access it by setting their
environment appropritely. Of course, this is pointless if you have root
anyway.
--
Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Buying computer parts ? How do you know which vendors to trust ?
http://www.resellerratings.com
Impartial and accurate. Straight from the buyers mouth.
( disclaimer: i'm not affiliated with resellerratings.com )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benjamin K. Belton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: 8 Apr 1999 10:06:16 -0400
:
: > And interesting case: there's a bug in my version of windows (the very
: > first commercial release of win95). Basically it amounts to this: you
: > can't use the "save password" button on dialup networking unless you
: > have microsoft networks installed (which I never use). This bug
: > persisted for almost 5 years, through many different versions. It may
: > even still be in windows 98, though I certainly haven't tried it -
: > that OS gives me the willies....
:
Have you checked the registry? (See below)
Q. How can I disable the "Save Password" option in dial-up
networking?
A. When you connect via RAS you can cache the password. If you feel
this is a security problem then you can disable the option to
enable the password to be saved.
Start the registry editor (regedit.exe)
Move to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\RasMan\Parameters
>From the Edit menu select New - DWORD value
Enter a name of DisableSavePassword and press ENTER
Double click the new value and set to 1
If you disable the "save password" make sure "redial on link
failure" is not activated as one redial attempts as it does not
save user information it will attempt to connect as Administrator
which will not work (unless the ISP has very poor security :-) ).
--
Keith Belton
Emory University
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From: Andy Kowalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Crashes with general protection: 0000
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:07:09 -0400
Greetings all,
I am having problems with a Linux system crashing. The system locks up
and the keyboard is unusable (Ctrl-Alt-Del won't work). I have to do a
hardware reset. The following is what was displayed on the console
after the last crash:
EFLAGS: 00010246
eax: 00000003 ebx: dea63981 ecx: 000003b9 ebx: 0000039c
esi: 03f1e414 edi: 014eab78 ebp: 00000000 esp: 014eaac0
ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 0018 gs: 002b ss: 0018
Process espace (pid: 11915, process nr: 71, stackpage=014ea000)
Stack: 00144e7b 03f1e414 000003b9 00000000 00000003 dea63981 03f1e414 0000000e
00000000 0014e9f5 03f1e414 000003b9 00000000 00000000 014eab78 03f1e414
00225a90 00000000 00000000 03f1e414 001459a2 03f1e414 00000060 014eabd0
Call Trace: [<00144e7b>] [<0014e9f5>] [<001459a2>] [<0015798a>] [<00157685>]
[<0015747c>] [<0015776c>]
[<001c4688>] [<001577c4>] [<0015bc4d>] [<001741a7>] [<001c1174>] [<001734b8>]
[<001733b8>] [<001adf68>]
[<001ae070>] [<001c5441>] [<001c3fd4>] [<001268a7>] [<0017322e>] [<00171e3a>]
[<00174e56>] [<0010abde>]
[<0012b2f4>] [<0010b33e>]
Code: 82 82 80 10 85 db 0f 85 b1 00 00 00 8b 86 f4 01 00 00 81 48
general protection: 0000
CPU: 1
EIP: 0010:[<00144e7c>]
EFLAGS: 00010246
eax: 00000003 ebx: 00000000 ecx: 00000034 edx: 00000000
esi: 07545810 edi: 07544f04 ebp: 00000000 esp: 07544ea4
ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 003b gs: 002b ss: 0018
Process klogd (pid: 225, process nr: 17, stackpage=07544000)
Stack: 00144e7b 07545810
Other info about the system:
Dual Pentium II 400MHz
128MB SDRAM ECC
ASUS P2B-DS Motherboard
Intel 82557 (rev 2). PCI 100 Mbit Ethernet
BusLogic BT-958 PCI SCSI controller
RedHat5.2
Linux farml21 2.0.36 #4 Thu Mar 11 11:19:56 EST 1999 i686 unknown
I have 20 systems (all identical hardware and Linux installs) and only one is crashing.
This one machine crashes at least every other day. All systems are running the same
user
codes. The vendor replaced the CPUs and memory, but it still crashes. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
--
Andy Kowalski
Jefferson Lab
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From: "pv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Crashes with general protection: 0000
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:43:08 +0200
Andy Kowalski wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
[SNIP]
1. it's still the hardware
2. it's the linux install or some software running on that box
If you're a test freak, pull the HD out of the machine that
crashes and place it in one the computers that don't
crash.. If it survives the whole day without crashing you
have narrowed it down to your hardware and must have
the machine replaced.. logic ;-)
good luck
pv
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mike dombrowski)
Subject: Really strange problem
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:38:00 GMT
This is from the SANE configure program:
checking for gtk-config... (cached) no
checking for GTK - version >= 0.99.13... no
*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
*** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to gtk-config.
Which confuses me because of this:
[root@linux sane-pre1.01]# echo $PATH
/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/mh:/root/bi
n
[root@linux sane-pre1.01]# ls /usr/local/bin
glib-config gtk-config test
[root@linux sane-pre1.01]# gtk-config
Usage: gtk-config [OPTIONS] [LIBRARIES]
Options:
[--prefix[=DIR]]
[--exec-prefix[=DIR]]
[--version]
[--libs]
[--cflags]
Libraries:
gtk
gthread
[root@linux sane-pre1.01]#
What's wrong here? Is it something I am doing wrong or something wrong
with gtk/sane? Please help me because being able to use my scanner is
the last thing keeping windows on my hard disk.
Thanks
Mike
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape (glibc2) hangs on startup when not connected to the net!!!
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:49:17 -0500
Netscape (glibc2) hangs on startup when not connected to the net!!! The
window never appears under X, but it shows up using ps or top.
Here is my setup. Behind the firewall I have a linux box (Slackware 3.6
upgrade to 100% glibc-2.1) which is running Netscape-4.51, glibc2, 128-bit.
The linux box is using my FreeBSD box (firewall, gateway) as a DNS server
also (yes, it is properly configured). The DNS server is configured for my
internal domain (not recognized beyond my LAN). I am running a
gateway/firewall (FreeBSD-3.1-STABLE) that is my interface to the net. The
two boxes are networked together through a 10baseT hub. The
gateway/firewall has a second NIC which connects to my cable-modem.
The funny thing is that my linux box used to be a FreeBSD-3.1 box and
Netscape worked just fine on that one, with the same essential
configuration. This seems to be a problem with Netscape and its
"dns-helper" under linux. I have made sure my /etc/hosts file is empty
except for 127.0.0.1 localhost. I have also tried placing my computer in
/etc/hosts. There should not be a lookup problem at all, because the
computer is a registered member of my domain and it shows up with an
nslookup on the firewall/gateway box. One thing to note is that I DON'T
have bind installed on the Linux box where the netscape problem is
occurring.
So, it seems to me that Netscape is trying to connect to some site external
to my LAN that it can not get to, so it just hangs. I have the mail client
the default window to open, and it connects to an external POP3 server, but
it should not be trying to connect before the window is even instantiated.
It doesn't even have a password to work with anyway.
Any ideas?
Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: A Dark Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Affordable Linux support for home users and small offices
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:01:02 -0500
Linux is becoming a very important Operating System both on servers and on
desktops. From several thousand users a few years ago, to more than
12 million today. Last year commercial support companies were created to
provide the same level of support that commercial Operating Systems like
Solaris and Windows have. An area was still missing: affordable Linux
support for home users and small companies.
Effective Linux Support Solutions is a new project to offer that kind of
support. For more information, check out our web page at:
http://linuxsupport.darkelf.net
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux safe from viruses like Melissa ?
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:57:04 -0500
No, Linux is not virus proof. However, when a program (a virus or a macro)
is run, it is run under the users permissions. So if the user does not have
sufficient privileges to damage the OS, then you should be safe from viruses
introduced by that user. The most likely causes of infection would be to
run a virus while under the permissions of a privileged user. If you do all
you work as a non-privileged user and save root for administration tasks
only, then you should be safe.
Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Efi Merdler wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi
>I know that Melissa is a macro virus,therefore, it will not run under
>Linux,however ,we all know that sooner or later a virus will attack the
>Linux community, is the OS protected ?
>
>I read an article written by John C. Dvorak on PCMagazine
>http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/insites/dvorak/jd.htm
>
>he wrote:
>"...The real culprit here is Microsoft. The operating system has never been
>made virus-proof, and allowing macro capabilities in Word and Excel invites
>destructive code..."
>
>Is Linux virus-proof because if not, it is just a matter of time and then
>Linux will get a very bad publicity.
>
>Thank you for reading
>
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Running as root?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:10:40 GMT
According to oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It think that might be a phobia passed on from users who were also
> systems admins and wanted a measure of safety from destroying any user
> files or messing up a system which many users depended on. It's a
> whole lot different if you're the only one on your machine.
With one important caveat -- if, and only if, your machine is not
connected to a network.
Any application you run as root potentially exposes you to a security
risk. If you are not connected to a network, this is not a big deal.
But if you are, it is one more potential target for a 'sploit.
Remember all those Java and Javascript security bugs? They are really
no big deal if you are running as a user. But if you are running
netscape as root, your system can be compromised. Just one example of
many.
Ok, so you have your data backed up. It is no great loss to *you* if
your system is compromised. However, you have exactly the type of
system that hackers love and security managers hate. A hacker will
break into your system quite easily, and in most cases, unnoticed. He
will then use your machine as a springboard to hack into others. But
because you are probably not doing any tracking or security logging,
it becomes very difficult to trace the hacker back to the source.
A good systems administrator will run as root only when absolutely
necessary, and will even install system daemons w/o root privs. That
way, if someone does fine a 'sploit in the program, damage control
will be limited to a user broach instead of a systems broach.
Let's put it another way. Unix has been arround for 30 years. Unix
existed long before networks, back in the days when there were no (or
almost no) malicious hackers or security threats. The root account
was created for a reason -- A good reason that works.
It is quite sad that Microsoft fucked things up and set the industry
back a decade or more. It is also unfortunate that your attitude
towards security is shared by so many. It is an attitude born out if
ignorance (i.e., lack of knowledge) and nothing else. Now is the time
to send out the deprogramming squads...
> I ran
> msdos for quite some time so I wasn't afraid to run as root - even
> that was safer than msdos ;)
Personally, I have a problem running Winblows for the very same
reason -- It bothers me to run all the time with administrative
privs. (I don't wanna be root. Don't wanna, don't make me,
please!)
-p.
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: C/C++:IDE
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:13:27 -0500
Cygnus sells a suite that is supposed to be pretty nice. I forget what it
is called, GNUtoolsPro or something. Anyway, it has an IDE that should be
promising. Visit http://www.cygnus.com (or is it org?).
Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Powe wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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>>>>>> "Niels" == Niels Gierse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Niels> Hello to all Linux users! I am a programmer who is not
> Niels> very good in programming c/c++. While I am developing
> Niels> applications I have many spell errors or leave out simple
> Niels> things like the ';'. When I programm at a Windows OS that
> Niels> is no problem, since there are many good developing areas
> Niels> like MS Visual C++ or Borland C (IDE). Is there anything
> Niels> familar running at Linux? I would apericate if you could
> Niels> tell me where I can get it.
>
>It seems like the best solution to the problem is to pay more
>attention to what you're doing. ;-) There are some graphical IDEs for
>linux. Xwpe, Code Crusader and RHIDE are ones I can think of
>offhand. I can't imagine what you were doing in the Windows IDEs that
>can't be done in a good editor. Any good editor will allow you to
>jump to error lines in the code. But missing punctuation or brackets
>will typically create bizarrely irrelevant messages, anyway.
>
>At any rate, GNU emacs does this. You can compile within the editor
>and the *compilation* buffer pops up, listing any errors. Then
>C-x ` steps you through the error lines in the code.
>
>mp
>
>powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
>- --
>Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
> "Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Sadofsky)
Subject: Re: Emacs; is there a third way?
Date: 8 Apr 1999 11:14:19 -0700
In article <7ef56q$rjm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <@worldonline.nl> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>The distributions of Linux that I have used thus far
>all claim that the X- and non-X versions of emacs
>can not coexist;
I'm not sure what makes you think this is the case. Typically when
I've installed emacs (which I've done numerous times under different
linux distributions), I'm given the choice between the X and the non-X
version. I always take the X-version.
It runs under X, using the mouse, colors, pull-down menus, etc. in a
nice way. If I type emacs when I'm at the console though (without
Xwindows running) then emacs works fine in the console. In addition,
if I start emacs with emacs -nw while using X, it runs in console mode
inside the xterm I started it from.
This is all with GNU Emacs, not with Xemacs, which I know less about.
There are several machines at work that I've installed both GNU Emacs
on, _and_ Xemacs without any interference, as well.
Hal Sadofsky
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTFS vs EXT2
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:53:08 -0500
**Nick Brown wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>It's kind of academic. You run EXT2 on Linux and NTFS on NT; trying to
>run them the other way round is asking for problems. There are EXT2
>utilities for NT, but no FS driver as far as I know. Similarly, there
>is an NTFS driver for Linux, but it's read-only.
>
Actually, there is an experimental version of the NTFS driver that is
read/write for the linux-2.2.x kernels. Just enable experimental options
when configuring the Kernel and you will see it. Apparently FreeBSD has
support for NTFS too, and I believe that it is read/write, at least in 3.1
or 4.0.
Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: Is Linux safe from viruses like Melissa ?
Date: 8 Apr 1999 17:04:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We had a couple executives receive infected files.
>
>I also heard that Xerox and Microsoft got hit with this one...
>
>But it was amazing to see how 'blown out of proportion' the whole thing
>got.
The most interesting story that I heard about someplace being
shutdown was Eielson AFB near Fairbanks, Alaska. The senior
operations officer (a colonel who is Wing Commander of the
fighter squadron) was one of the first people to blunder into
Melissa and pass it on. "An important message from
Col. xxxxx..." has a little more effect, in that environment,
than the average message. It shut down the email system on the
base for the weekend apparently. (Just imagine who the first 50
addresses in his email list would be. :-)
But as suggested, the newspaper articles are way out of
proportion to the significance.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPDATED Mar 20, North Slope images: <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:54:49 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:07:19 GMT, oak wrote:
>
> > installing software, etc.
>
> This is about the only thing you need root for ( besides configuring
> software )
Not really.
I created another use "staff", which owns e.g. /usr/src as well as
/usr/local.
Whenever I compile the kernel or install another program I'll do it as user
staff. So even the most malicious install routine can not damage the core OS
(in the worst case I would have to restore just /usr/local and /usr/src;
pretty easy if the OS is still up and running).
Only for tasks, which really require very special permissions like writing a
new MBR after creating a new kernel, I go for root.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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