Linux-Misc Digest #883, Volume #19 Sun, 18 Apr 99 06:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help choosing distribution (Nathan Ranger)
FAX Software for Linux (Oliver Bach)
sound question (panick)
Bootting error.. Help ("sungho")
HELP: Apache and address mapping and Dynamic IP (Marie-France Toupin)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux ("Stephen H. Kapit")
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux (Nicolas Blais)
Re: size of compiled binaries. (brian moore)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux (Nicolas Blais)
Re: network card.. help!!! (brian moore)
Boot problem (kernel 2.2.6) ("mox")
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux (Tony Thomas)
Re: Small qmail problem(was Re: Mail server for Linux) (Russell Nelson)
Re: Autoconf (root)
Re: Install ? again. ("mox")
Re: Linux is dead (Harry)
Re: problem with executable file (root)
Re: Linux is dead (Harry)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (Harry)
Re: What-ya-ma-callit (Carl Fink)
Re: rcp large file crashes network! (David Steuber)
Re: FREE Computer Documentation (Chris Sherlock)
Re: Linux lock-ups (brian moore)
.a => .so library? (oak)
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From: Nathan Ranger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:04:04 -0400
Hate Spam,
I'm a Slakware veteran and a RedHat newbie. If you know a lot about the
systems, UNIX in general and hardware, I fully recommend Slakware.
However, if you are new to the field, without a doubt, RH should be your
choice. Lots of people around to help you support it. Debian too, would
get high ranks for UNIX newbies.
For me, however, a 15 year UNIX veteran, Slakware Rulez. RedHat and
Debian do to much for me. *I* want to write those rc.local files. *I*
can do *MY OWN* kill -9s and kill -1s!!! However, I ramble. Good luck.
Regardless, Linux is a killer OS. Makes most any other OS look like a
cheap trick, a bad date or a rotten apple. Well, any other OS except
Ultrix 4.2. SHEW, but talk about a pain in the butt to configure!
I'll shut up now. :)
-NR
Hate Spam wrote:
>
> I don't want to start yet another holy war on distributions. Please keep
> your comments sensible. Thanx.
>
> I would like to install and play with linux. I am pretty good with
> computers, with some programming experience. I've played with unix
> machine at school (IRIX server), read lots of FAQs on linux, and
> distribution how-to's. I get the sense that RH is most popular and
> probably the easiests to set up. But I would like something less
> "packaged" so that I could get a change to "get my hands dirty" so to
> speak. I figure that way I would learn more than if things were just
> set up for me, ready to run.
>
> So, here I am, debating perhaps I should go with Slackware, or maybe
> Debian. I don't know too much about other distributions (like SuSE and
> such). What I would like is your comment on the strength and weaknesses
> of various distributions. Thanks in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oliver Bach)
Subject: FAX Software for Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:56:27 -0800
I am looking for Fax On Demand Software for Linux!
OB
Please email me.
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From: panick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound question
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:17:16 -0700
can anyone help me config a soundcard to work under linux. Its a built
in to the motherboard type. Its called a Sound Blaster 64D. I can't get
the sound config tool in redhat 5.2 to find it. Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.
Panick
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From: "sungho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bootting error.. Help
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:15:08 -0700
Hello.
I edited a user's count, exactly I deleted the user using linuxconf.
and then I rebootted the linux ( redhat5.2)system,
After that, I got error messages as follows: I couldn't boot the system.
===============================
.......
INIT: version 2.74 booting
INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit"
INIT:entering runlevel:3
INIT:cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc"
INIT:ld"1" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"2" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"3" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"4" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"5" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"6" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
no more processes left in this runlevel.
==============================================
How can I fix these error message?
I tried to get into the system using resuse.img booting disks,
but there was not any command to fix it.. it was like base directory and
files when I get into there using rescuse disks, I got them from Redhat ftp
site.
please help, if you know what problems are, I think it is terrible thing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marie-France Toupin)
Subject: HELP: Apache and address mapping and Dynamic IP
Date: 18 Apr 1999 01:06:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marie-France Toupin)
I got a working Apache server on Linux with a dynamic IP address
but if it is accessed with http://IP_ADDRESS then
IP_ADDRESS is changed to my_server_name on the client browser.
But since it's a part-time server only the IP_ADDRESS is
known (ping'able) and thus the client browser won't be able to access
it since "my_server_name" is not visible to the client.
Thus, is there a way to prevent Apache to do this mapping?
If you got any idea why this happens and/or or to prevent it, please let
me know.
Any pointer will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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From: "Stephen H. Kapit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:22:44 -0700
I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting only system. I seem to be
coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on this for me? I
plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram. And co-locating
the server.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Stephen
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From: Nicolas Blais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:27:56 -0400
"Stephen H. Kapit" wrote:
> I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting only system. I seem to be
> coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on this for me? I
> plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram. And co-locating
> the server.
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Stephen
If you want power, use FreeBSD., but if you want a kitten with holes you can
always get Linux. I'm allergic to cats to I user FreeBSD.
In other words, get FreeBSD, i'll do the job plus coffee if you need it.
--
Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org
My current running version : FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: size of compiled binaries.
Date: 18 Apr 1999 01:27:09 GMT
On 17 Apr 1999 23:35:31 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I obtained the source of fileutils-3.16 that comes with debian 2.1.
> When I compile it with either gcc or egcs, the resulting binaries
> are appx 3 times larger than the ones that come with the
> distribution. For example, the ls program is appx 73K when built by
> me,whereas it is only about 24K in the distribution. Shouldn't they
> all work out about the same size ?
Try 'strip ls' after building it and you'll strip the symbols from it.
It will be harder to debug that way, but it will be smaller.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Nicolas Blais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:29:42 -0400
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"Stephen H. Kapit" wrote:
> I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting only system. I seem to be
> coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on this for me? I
> plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram. And co-locating
> the server.
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Stephen
If you want power, use FreeBSD, but if you want a kitten with holes you can
always get Linux. I'm allergic to cats so I use FreeBSD.
In other words, get FreeBSD, i'll do the job plus coffee if you need it.
--
Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org
My current running version : FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting
only system. I seem to be
<br>coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on
this for me? I
<br>plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram.
And co-locating
<br>the server.
<p>Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
<p>Thanks.
<p>Stephen</blockquote>
<p><br>If you want power, use FreeBSD, but if you want a kitten with holes
you can
<br>always get Linux. I'm allergic to cats so I use FreeBSD.
<br>In other words, get FreeBSD, i'll do the job plus coffee if you need
it.
<pre>--
Nicolas
Blais
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: network card.. help!!!
Date: 18 Apr 1999 07:22:12 GMT
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:01:50 -0700,
NewsReader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a question:
>
> I when I boot with a floppy my nic gets detected just fine (3com 3c509) but
> when I boot up with my hd it doesn't detect it actually it doesn't even try.
The kernel on your floppy doesn't match the one on your hard drive.
(You can verify this with 'uname -a': the version will differ (note the
'#x' part, which is the x'th build.)
How did you build your kernel -- the one that is now on the floppy?
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: "mox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot problem (kernel 2.2.6)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:23:30 -0400
Anyone have an idea why my system halt right after the boot disk says: "Ok,
now booting the kernel..."
I just installed the kernel v2.2.6..
I don't know why.. many ppl said to me to remove some things into my config,
I made what the asked me to remove, but I have no results... the problem
can't be my system.. (p2 333 / 20gig / 96 ram)
I think the problem is my kernel configuration, cause the v2.0.36 boot fine.
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Date: 18 Apr 99 04:42:02 GMT
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Thomas)
Nicolas Blais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [post deleted for brevity]
*Please* stop your Mozilla from posting HTML formatted articles.
Better yet, use a real newsreader.
t.
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Tony Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Small qmail problem(was Re: Mail server for Linux)
Date: 18 Apr 1999 00:36:33 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Britten) writes:
> I'm having some trouble w/ redhat 5.2 and qmail. Trying to use the
> ~/Maildir setup, thought I followed the instructions well, but whenever I
> boot up the computer hangs on the startup script for qmail.
Did you remember the '&' to put it into the background?
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Autoconf
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:31:21 -0500
Matt Cole wrote:
> As far as I know, kernels with versions 2.0.xxx are considered to be stable
> versions of the kernel, versions 2.1.xxx are considered to be somewhat unstable,
> and 2.2.xxx are considered to be highly unstable....they are built mainly for
> testing purposes. I assume that versions 2.2.xxx of the kernel are built mainly
> to test to see if certain modules or features work....that 2.1.xxx versions of
> the kernel are built to find bugs in the kernel, and 2.0.xxx are what's
> distributed as working. Chances are that the framers didn't include the header
> file with your version of the kernel, because they're distributing it for
> testing purposes and didn't see a need to include it in with that distribution.
>
> But, I have been wrong before.
And according to the literature, you're wrong again. :^)
Actually, I don't know my ass from a turnip but the literature claims that
even versions of the kernel are tried and trued releases (which makes 2.2.x
as stable as 2.0.x). The odd number versions (i.e. 2.1.x, 1.1.x, 1.3.x, etc.)
are suppose to be the testing grounds for new features, etc. I find this in
*every* book I have on Linux and it's even in the Lniux Kernel HOWTO
by Brian Ward. I'm hoping these people can tell their ass from a turnip,
cause I'm just guessing. :^)
Rick
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From: "mox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Install ? again.
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:13:43 -0400
Partition your disk.. you can use fips, fsisk, partition magic, etc..
Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I have a 13G hard drive. Can I install win95 OSR2 on half of it and
> > install Linux on the other half? How? Please, I'm waiting to set up it
> > for working on my project.
> > I have nothing important on the hard drive now.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Pls reply to me.
>
> If you don't want to destroy any data, try using fips. This is a program
> for dividing an existing HDD without destroying any data. Oh, and make
> sure you a) backup your drive before doing anything, and b) defragment
> your drive in order to place all data onto the start of the drive. (use
> defrag or something better - like Norton's Speeddisk). Beware though,
> with a 13G HDD this is probably going to take a leetle while... ;)
>
> Hope this helps - Chris Sherlock
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:28:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSIE does Java again? I thought they were using their own form of
Java
like language now. Oh and MSIE does JavaScript?? I thought it did some
thing similar by another name. <
MS isn't going to offer any new JVMs for MSIE as MS won't support any
JDK specs after 1.0 (1.1 has never been fully supported). However, you
can use someone else's JVM with IE. My opinion is that this makes no
difference, as Java on the server is where the industry seems to be
headed. I've tried running some JavaScript on Internet Explorer just now
to test it (IE 4) and it runs fine.
Harry
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: problem with executable file
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:51:34 -0500
Stefan Hetzl wrote:
> nturdali wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to the Linux world.
> > Today I needed to run a C program. Compilation seems to work OK.
> > But I cannot use executable file.
> > After commands:
> > # gcc -o myprog myprog.c
> > # myprog
> >
> > the system responds:
> > "dash:myprog: command not found".
> >
> > Why? What should I do?
> >
> > nturdali
>
> In Linux - different to the DOS/Windows world - the working directory is
> not in the path. That means that if you want to start a program in the
> working directory (the current directory) you have to explicitly specify
> the directory using "./myprog".
>
> Stefan
Another thing is you might need to make the file executable first. In
Linux and Unix, you generally need to do a chmod +x on the file before
it becomes executable. I have not compiled a C program in Linux yet
so I'm not sure if this is automatic. I doubt it is.
Rick
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:30:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> And a damn good one at that!
Oh, shucks! Now I've gone all coy!
Harry
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:22:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Harry Lewis wrote:
>> From some of the replies in this forum you'd think it takes a degree
in
>> engineering to learn to use a mouse! Even if this were so, however,
>> X-Windows still gives you the option of starting an Xterm and typing
>> commands away to your heart's content.
>
>Interesting comment, really, because from what I've observed, it seems
a
>lot of people think you need a degree in engineering to learn how to
use
>a command prompt. It really isn't that difficult.
>
>Jim
>--
>Jim Henderson
>Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums
Now here's the bit you snipped:
>Matt O'Toole wrote:
>> why not have the option of either the mouse or keyboard at all times?
>
>Sorry to butt-in, but I just had to say "hear, hear!"
See � I'm advocating GUI _and_ CLIs where each is appropriate, but with
the proviso that a GUI can offer you a CLI where needed. No degree on
engineering needed.
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: What-ya-ma-callit
Date: 18 Apr 1999 08:11:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 17 Apr 1999 22:37:29 GMT Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:39:45 +0100 TonyC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>What they can't do is share a modem.
>
>What you want is called "IP Forwarding" under Linux . . .
"IP Masquerading". I really did know that.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rcp large file crashes network!
Date: 18 Apr 1999 01:30:05 -0400
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto) writes:
-> -> I don't have any specific advice, but the generic recommendation
-> -> is to watch the network traffic using tcpdump.
Results of tcpdump:
19:18:15.710000 arp who-has interloper tell 10.7.7.10
603564 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
I had to physicly remove PCMCIA NIC to reestablish networking.
--
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http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
Take everything in stride. Trample anyone who gets in your way.
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From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: FREE Computer Documentation
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:38:08 -0700
FREE Computer Documentation
books, standards, specifications, source code, and more
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/LDP - The Linux Documentation
Project!
Welcome there.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Linux lock-ups
Date: 18 Apr 1999 07:48:48 GMT
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:34:51 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I previously used RedHat 5.2 on a p200 with 64meg of ram with no problems.In
> December I upgraded to an Asus P2B with 128 Meg ram and an experiening severe
> lock-ups in X. Is there a torture-test program that runs under Linux that will
> point me in the right direction? I tend to suspect the ram since a lot of ram
> sold as 100mhz doesn't cut it.
Try building the kernel: it generally gives your system a good workout.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .a => .so library?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:55:31 GMT
I just compiled tcl but it created
libtcl7.6.a instead of libtcl7.6.so
My "expect" program requires
libtcl7.6.so Where or how can I get .so?
Thanks,
-Tony
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