Linux-Misc Digest #885, Volume #19 Sun, 18 Apr 99 11:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Voodoo Banshee and XF86_SVGA (Rob Fisher)
Re: How to do secure X11: NT Workstation SP4 (SecureCRT v2.4, Exceed v6.1), Redhat
Linux 5.9.7 [Starbuck]: SSHD v1.2.26 (peter)
Linux command: bg and fg (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: d/l recoverey (Tony Ekron)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux (Tak Pui Lou)
Re: linux being user-friendly (peter)
Linux Book Recommendations please?? (Nigel R Lau)
Re: linux being user-friendly (David M. Cook)
Re: Install ? again. (Chris Sherlock)
Shutdown Problem & Mirror?? (Payton)
Re: video card ("Prasanth Kumar")
Re: Cool penguin icons (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Yamaha DB50XG (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Problem compiling SSH-1.2.26 under Redhat Starbuck release 5.9.7... (Ingo
Buescher)
Re: microsoft bus mouse (Shimon)
Linux Book Recommendations??? (Nigel R Lau)
Re: please suggest a smaller WWW browser. (Pedro R. Andrade)
promise pci ide cards (Ralph Blach)
booting problem. (Sung-Ho Maeung)
Re: Boot problem (kernel 2.2.6) (Killingtime "@drum14.freeserve.co.uk>)
Re: Boot problem (kernel 2.2.6) ("mox")
Re: Voodoo Banshee and XF86_SVGA (xTaCy)
Re: please suggest a smaller WWW browser. (Muzh)
freebsd cleanup (Coco)
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From: Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Voodoo Banshee and XF86_SVGA
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:05:50 +0100
Thanks for all your help everyone. I downloaded the rpms everyone
pointed me at, and after building an rpm program so I could install it,
had my 1280x1024x24 screen up and running in no time. It's a /huge/
improvement over what my poxy old S3 card could provide.
Haven't got it working with Solaris yet beacause I haven't yet worked
out how to get the source out of the ruddy rpm! It's okay for you Red
Hat people, but those of us with home-made mongrel Linuxes don't have it
so easy!
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.ssh,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to do secure X11: NT Workstation SP4 (SecureCRT v2.4, Exceed v6.1),
Redhat Linux 5.9.7 [Starbuck]: SSHD v1.2.26
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:06:30 GMT
In article <01be883b$8a7f7750$24921e18@test>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Topic sums up the configuration..
> I SSH (3DES encryption) into the Linux box with SecureCRT 2.4b1, and export
> DISPLAY to my NT Workstation.
>
> Now do I make X11 *secure*?
>
>
secureCRT can auto-X11-forward. all you have to do is enable the checkbox
in sessionpreferences-sesssion-advanced and restart the session.
securecrt autosets the DISPLAY-env.var. to the correct setting ! DO NOT
SET DISPLAY MANUALLY !!
to check if it is set just type
$export
when DISPLAY is like linuxmachine:11.0 it is ok !
when DISPLAY is like ntmachine:0.0 or undefined it is not ok !
due to port-forwarding the display is set to a local-linux-port and ssh
forwards this port to nt where securecrt waits for it ;)
ok !!
peter
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Linux command: bg and fg
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:03:02 -0700
I use Linux Red Hat 5.2. I'm wondering if after launching X Window by
"startx" and do Ctl+Alt+F1 afterwards to login with text_based workspace
but decided to go back to X Window later. Is it possible to foreground
X Window process or putting current session to background? Here's my
PID's to see what I meant...
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
240 a0 S 0:00 gpm -t ms
258 1 S 0:00 -bash
259 2 S 0:00 -bash
260 3 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
261 4 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
262 5 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
263 6 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
299 1 S 0:00 sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
300 1 S 0:00 xinit /root/.xinitrc --
303 1 S 0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker
305 1 S 0:00 wmclock -shape
311 1 S 0:00 usernet
345 1 S 0:00 sh /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ppp daemon
ifcfg-ppp0
352 1 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd -detach lock modem crtscts
defaultroute mru 1
358 1 S 0:15 /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator
367 1 S 0:00 (dns helper)
412 1 S 0:00 xterm -sb
It may be a stupid question, huh? Somebody had asked me after an Linux
Install SIG and I can't give an another. Somehow there's neither "man
fg" nor "man bg" in Linux Red Hat, I dunno for other distro... (=:
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P.S.: Please reply me direct by removing extra.
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From: Tony Ekron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: d/l recoverey
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:15:39 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
brian moore wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:52:44 +0200,
> Tony Ekron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all
> > Anyone done anything yet with d'l recovery
> > I am looking for a prog like getright but for linux
> > anyone know of anything like that
>
> Other than wget, snarf, GREED and a whole slew of others?
Thanx alot for the help
Linux is the best
and so are it's users
thanx to all of you
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From: Tak Pui Lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:48:10 -0700
Dana Booth wrote:
> In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Stephen H. Kapit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> SHK: I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting only system. I seem to be
> SHK: coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on this for me? I
> SHK: plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram. And co-locating
> SHK: the server.
>
> Try Windows NT, it's the best, way better than any of those cheezy, free
> UNIX wannabes.
>
Did you post this to entertain other people? I think this joke make a lot of people
laugh. Yeh, NT, HAAHA...
Lou
>
> --
>
> ---------------------------
> Dana Booth <dana[at]oz.net>
> Tacoma, Wash., USA
> ---------------------------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Subject: Re: linux being user-friendly
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:40:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
if a os can be user-friendly it should be userfriendly !! of course !!
(I think there is no need for mystery-monger at the beginning of a new
millenium)
the question is : can a os be user-friendly at the current state of
computerdesign ? what I hate most when using NT is that it suggest that
it is so easy and anyone can use it. just move the mouse, click here,
drop there and <magic-wizard> your system is configured.
this is not true. configuring a os is sophisticated work and I like linux
cause it is clear: if you dont know the commands and dont know the
libraries and .. you cant do anything.
I played around with redhat-linuxconf a while. it suggest that you can
easily setup a network with it in not time. but it didnt work. (It tried
to assign both network-cards to eth0 ;)
So : I want REAL userfriendly systems
but I prefer cryptic text-commands to non-working gui-configurationtools.
but of course I like to have a computer one day that configure up itself
by just listening to my spoken wish.
peter
> why are poeple trying to make linux user-friendly? i don't think linux
> should be any user-friendly than it already is. the morons complaining
> about linux having to many confusing aspects or cryptic commands, etc.
> etc. shouldn't be using linux and should use windows instead. not
> everyone should use linux... only those who actually need linux to
> perform some powerful, administrative tasks, not the general public...
> the general public should be using winblows. gnome, kde and the other
> desktop envoirnments are trying to make linux operation easier, but i
> don't think they should make it too easy. linux isn't supposed to be
> friendy... it's supposed to be a powerful, stable os that can actually
> do stuff... stuff that windoze can't do and other operations that would
> be too confusing for the average windoze user.
>
> what do you think?? i'm just curious as to what anybody else thinks
> about this. btw, i have slackware and use fvwm2... i don't really like
> fancy stuff (as you've probly guessed). i love my command line and i
> love typing away furiously doing various complex commands... so i wanna
> hear what you think (if you like lots of terminals and typing... or a
> nice, easy interface). just curious... hope i didn't offend anyone,
> (ie, kde/gnome users) heh...
>
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Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,alt.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nigel R Lau)
Subject: Linux Book Recommendations please??
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:43:40 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone recommend to me any good linux books for a newbie/internediate????
I've heard Running Linux is good but last Edition was 1996 i think 2nd Ed.
I'm using Slackware btw, dont intend to use Red Hat or the like.. TIA
Nige
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: linux being user-friendly
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:53:11 GMT
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:24:45 -0400, hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>why are poeple trying to make linux user-friendly?
Because it's an interesting problem.
Dave Cook
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From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Install ? again.
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:43:32 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have a 13G hard drive. Can I install win95 OSR2 on half of it and
> install Linux on the other half? How? Please, I'm waiting to set up it
> for working on my project.
> I have nothing important on the hard drive now.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pls reply to me.
If you don't want to destroy any data, try using fips. This is a program
for dividing an existing HDD without destroying any data. Oh, and make
sure you a) backup your drive before doing anything, and b) defragment
your drive in order to place all data onto the start of the drive. (use
defrag or something better - like Norton's Speeddisk). Beware though,
with a 13G HDD this is probably going to take a leetle while... ;)
Hope this helps - Chris Sherlock
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 06:03:51 -0700
From: Payton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shutdown Problem & Mirror??
[Using RH 5.1]
Ever since I use the command, 'shutdown -h 09:30 Computer shutdown'. I
can't seem to login as a non-root user (I can still login as root).
But, it just keeps on saying, 'login incorrect'.
I tried 'shutdown -c', but all I got was 'no pid found' (<-- something
like that).
Also, I would like to download a copy of RH5.2 via HTTP or FTP using the
'mirror' program, the only problem is, I can't seem to figure out the
correct syntax. Can somebody provide some examples please.
Any help would be great. If you can, please email replys.
Thanks,
Payton
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From: "Prasanth Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 05:37:53 GMT
Check out ftp://ftp.precisioninsight.com/pub/pi/XBF/
NewsReader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:2_aS2.677$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i just go a intel video card that uses teh i740 chipset. I'm trying to
> configure X ...
> so when i go to xf86config which video card/chipset do i use ... i don't
see
> one for i740 thanks
>
>
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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cool penguin icons
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:10:03 GMT
Sabbat wrote:
> Does anyone know where I could find cool penguin icons in xpm format? I
> used to have them but now I cant find them anymore...
> I tried all the themes sites already...
> Thanks
Have a look at http://wm-icons.dhs.org/ ...
HTH,
Thomas
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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yamaha DB50XG
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:06:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have this daughterboard installed on a Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 SCSI
> II/ASP card. I know the SB16 ASP is supported, not sure about the SCSI
> chipset, how about the daughterboard?
I have the SW60XG, which is exactly the same thing, but on a separate
ISA card instead of a daughterborad on a sound card. Here are the
relevant kernel config pieces:
#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y
# CONFIG_PAS is not set
CONFIG_SB=y
CONFIG_ADLIB=y
# CONFIG_GUS is not set
CONFIG_MPU401=y
# CONFIG_UART6850 is not set
# CONFIG_PSS is not set
# CONFIG_GUS16 is not set
# CONFIG_GUSMAX is not set
# CONFIG_MSS is not set
# CONFIG_SSCAPE is not set
# CONFIG_TRIX is not set
# CONFIG_MAD16 is not set
# CONFIG_CS4232 is not set
# CONFIG_MAUI is not set
CONFIG_AUDIO=y
CONFIG_MIDI=y
CONFIG_YM3812=y
SBC_BASE=220
SBC_IRQ=5
SBC_DMA=1
SB_DMA2=5
SB_MPU_BASE=0
SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
MPU_BASE=330
MPU_IRQ=-1
DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
# CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND is not set
Just say "y" to "MPU401" and "MIDI", and note the [SB_]MPU_{BASE|IRQ}
settings!
HTH,
Thomas
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From: Ingo Buescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.ssh,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problem compiling SSH-1.2.26 under Redhat Starbuck release 5.9.7...
Date: 17 Apr 1999 20:05:41 GMT
tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I get an error in login.c... Anyone know how to fix this?
> -DTIS_MAP_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_tis.map\" -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include login.c
> login.c: In function `record_login':
> login.c:437: structure has no member named `ut_syslen'
> login.c:441: structure has no member named `e_termination'
> login.c:442: structure has no member named `e_exit'
> login.c:454: `WTMPX_FILE' undeclared (first use in this function)
> login.c:454: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> login.c:454: for each function it appears in.)
> make: *** [login.o] Error 1
I had exactly the same problem. To solve this remove the
HAVE_UTMPX_H entry in config.h after configuring.
IB
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From: Shimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: microsoft bus mouse
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:02:39 +0300
Jeff Darling wrote:
>
> I'm also having mouse problems. I have the microsoft intellimouse ps/2.
>
> works find on console, but bouncy bouncy bouncy in X. It just shoots right
> up to the left hand corner of the screen.
>
interesting....
i just installed RH5.2, and i have a MS Intellimouse PS/2.
it works fine when i log in in linemode, it works beautifully in X.
but... when i close down X, THEN it goes berserk... in the linemode
screen.
it starts cutting and pasting insanely every time it moves.
i have startd to do gpm -k to 'kill' mouse support in line mode.
i set it up for X using XF86Setup, with protocol IMPS/2.
Shimon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nigel R Lau)
Subject: Linux Book Recommendations???
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:26:11 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone recommend to me any good linux books for a newbie/internediate????
I've heard Running Linux is good but last Edition was 1996 i think 2nd Ed.
I'm using Slackware btw, dont intend to use Red Hat or the like.. TIA
Nige
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pedro R. Andrade)
Subject: Re: please suggest a smaller WWW browser.
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 06:03:00 GMT
You may always use lynx. You'll see no pictures though.
Pedro Andrade
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:53:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi there, just recycled an old PC with linux (486SX25)
>Plan is just to use it as a web-browsing box. Idea being
>it'll be faster than a windows machine could be.
>
>However I now discover Netscape 4.x takes about 3 minutes
>to load ! can anybody suggest a WWW browser with slightly
>less overhead that'll cope with java and the like.
>
>Oh and if you can tell me where I could find it that would
>be nice too. Cheers.
>
>Dez.
>
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From: Ralph Blach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: promise pci ide cards
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:48:48 -0400
Hi,
are the promise pci ide cards supported by linux?
There website is
http://www.promise.com
Thanks
Chip
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:25:07 -0400
From: Sung-Ho Maeung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: booting problem.
Hello.
I edited a user's count, exactly I deleted the user using linuxconf.
and then I rebooted the linux ( redhat5.2)system,
After that, I got error messages as follows: I couldn't boot the system.
===============================
.......
INIT: version 2.74 booting
INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit"
INIT:entering runlevel:3
INIT:cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc"
INIT:ld"1" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"2" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"3" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"4" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"5" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
INIT:ld"6" respawing too fast:disabled for 5 minutes
no more processes left in this runlevel.
==============================================
How can I fix these error messages?
I tried to get into the system using the resuse.img booting disk,
but there was not any command to fix it.. it was like base directory and
files in there when I get into there using the rescued disk,
I got it from Redhat ftp site.
please help, if you know what problems are, I think it is terrible
thing.
or, could you please recommend whether there is a good site to
figure it out?
please, any comment I will appreciate it.
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Computer Science
Sung-Ho Maeung
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From: Killingtime <"matt<NO SPAM>"@drum14.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Boot problem (kernel 2.2.6)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:07 +0100
If you recompiled the Kernel and then moved it to /vmlinuz did you type 'lilo'.
This may solve your problem. You will need to use your boot floppy to get
access to your partition.
mount root=/dev/hxx
mox wrote:
> Anyone have an idea why my system halt right after the boot disk says: "Ok,
> now booting the kernel..."
>
> I just installed the kernel v2.2.6..
> I don't know why.. many ppl said to me to remove some things into my config,
> I made what the asked me to remove, but I have no results... the problem
> can't be my system.. (p2 333 / 20gig / 96 ram)
> I think the problem is my kernel configuration, cause the v2.0.36 boot fine.
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From: "mox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot problem (kernel 2.2.6)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:50:39 -0400
I don't use lilo, my HD don't support it.. maybe because it is too big
(20gig)
I boot from a floppy made by (cat zImage > /dev/fd0)
My old kernel version (2.0.36) works fine like that.. I think the problem is
more with configuration
Killingtime @drum14.freeserve.co.uk> <"matt<NO SPAM> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If you recompiled the Kernel and then moved it to /vmlinuz did you type
'lilo'.
> This may solve your problem. You will need to use your boot floppy to get
> access to your partition.
> mount root=/dev/hxx
>
> mox wrote:
>
> > Anyone have an idea why my system halt right after the boot disk says:
"Ok,
> > now booting the kernel..."
> >
> > I just installed the kernel v2.2.6..
> > I don't know why.. many ppl said to me to remove some things into my
config,
> > I made what the asked me to remove, but I have no results... the problem
> > can't be my system.. (p2 333 / 20gig / 96 ram)
> > I think the problem is my kernel configuration, cause the v2.0.36 boot
fine.
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:47:06 +0000
From: xTaCy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Voodoo Banshee and XF86_SVGA
Rob Fisher wrote:
> I'm sure I've read somewhere that you can get XFree86 to work on Voodoo
> Banshee boards using the SVGA server? I had a quick go at it last night,
> but I could only get 320x200x256 resolution. (I'm after 1280x1040x24).
> Am I wasting my time trying this, or is it possible? I don't care about
> the 3D stuff, I just want a big, colourful, fast desktop.
>
> I'm not asking for step-by-step instructions, just hoping someone knows
> what I'm on about. Mailed replies would be especially nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
Try downloading the XF68 _FBDev . It uses the framebuffer device
/dev/fb0. Youll need the 2.2 .x kernel though . I spent about 2 hours last
night sorting my banshee. If you want the Howto and a couple of other handy
files just mail me.
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From: Muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please suggest a smaller WWW browser.
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:02:08 +1200
Actually, I see a lot of pictures using Lynx. Just run it in an xterm,
and when you open a picture link then ee or xv will display the
picture!! :)
"Pedro R. Andrade" wrote:
>
> You may always use lynx. You'll see no pictures though.
>
> Pedro Andrade
>
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From: Coco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: freebsd cleanup
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:03:36 -0500
what directories and files can i safely remove to make room for
xwindows? i'd like to keep my man files for now..
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