Linux-Misc Digest #885, Volume #25 Wed, 27 Sep 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: make-kpkg compile OK, dpkg install fails (Jerome Mrozak)
Re: Can StarOffice import LaTeX equations? (Garry Knight)
Re: Java on Linux? (Garry Knight)
Re: kppp and WindowMaker (Robert Kiesling)
Re: 2 boxes, one file, no clue (Robert Kiesling)
laptop rh6.2 and PPP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
searching for old x game
Re: KDE Sound Configuration ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Boot problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RedHat 6.2 install problems (jbrown)
Re: help: external modem on redhat 6.1 (Fluri Dave)
Re: HELP! - Corel Linux install (Dances With Crows)
Re: CD-ROM problem (Dances With Crows)
Re: Gathering a recursive list of URLs? (Shaun)
Re: CP/M: 'tis not _completely_ gone... (Bob Hauck)
Re: been hacked...have a question (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Java on Linux? (David Rysdam)
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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: make-kpkg compile OK, dpkg install fails
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:26:34 -0500
I fixed things up now. Interlaced are my comments.
vachi wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What did you mean by "can't find menuconfig or xconfig"? If you can't do
> make menuconfig then you need some more packages(libncurses-dev if I
> remember it right).
What was my problem is the kernel-package scripts are looking for a
gcc272 compiler and Storm has a gcc compiler. After making a link the
xconfig script compiles and works.
> You will have to recompile the pcmcia modules again for the new kernel
> you
> want to install. It can be done with make-kpkg too. After installing the
> pcmcia source in the same manner as the kernel source,
Which is what I wasn't aware I needed to do.
> try make-kpkg
> modules_image in the kernel source tree and you get the pcmcia debball
> for
> your new kernel. Yes, there is debian way to do things :-)
>
After compiling I must install two dpkg files. Not knowing how to make
both of them install together ("dpkg -i A" says B conflicts, "dpkg -i B"
says A conflicts, "dpkg -i A B" does the same thing, only in one
statement), I did "dpkg --force-conflicts -i" for each .deb and all is
well.
That is, as long as I can compile and install kapm from somewhere (the
debian KDE packager site is down for this). But apm and xapm works,
etc.
Jerome.
> Hope this help
>
> Vachi
>
> PS: By the way, I don't think leaving every options as default is a good
> idea...
>
> Jerome Mrozak wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to get an APM enabled kernel for my laptop, which is running
> > Stormix (hail) distro, with kernel 2.2.16.
> >
> > I install kernel-package and the source, and configure my kernel (make
> > config, can't find menuconfig or xconfig) by answering (default) to
> > every question except APM (yes, I want it).
> >
> > Now I compile according to the kernel-package README (make-kpkg). It
> > compiles.
> >
> > I install with dpkg and I get a complaint about conflict with
> > pcmcia-modules, and the install fails.
> >
> > I don't know what to do here, and tried the various make-kpkg options to
> > try to affect the modules. Doesn't let dpkg succeed.
> >
> > I also tried compiling with make bzImage, make modules, make
> > modules_install, make zlilo. With that everything completes but when I
> > reboot with the new kernel I get continuous module dependency failures.
> >
> > (Now Debian Potato uses a 2.2.17 kernel that starts off saying "APM
> > enabled", and follows with "APM disabled by request". Now I didn't
> > request it, and a global search with KDE find for "apm" yielded zilch.
> > All I really want is an APM-enabled kernel and would download one from
> > Debian if it existed.)
> >
> > I tried installing Debian 2.2.17 kernel and used its /boot/config file
> > as my .config file, changing the APM question to what I want. Still no
> > joy.
> >
> > So how do I successfully compile and properly install my kernel? I'm
> > hoping "the Debian way" works.
> >
> > --
> > Jerome Mrozak "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
> > (the Stainless Steel Rat)
--
Jerome Mrozak "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
(the Stainless Steel Rat)
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can StarOffice import LaTeX equations?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:49:09 +0100
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Bala wrote:
>> staroffice.com.support.starwriter
>> staroffice.com.support.starmath
>
>Thanks Garry, but here's another stupid question: where can I access these
>newsgroups? I've tried searching on Deja and on Google but to no avail.
I take it your ISP doesn't carry them then? I believe there is a dedicated
public-facing server and that the groups are peered out globally. Since my ISP
carries them I don't know the name of the server. If you go to Sun's website
and have a look around you'll probably find it documented there. Start
somewhere around one of these:
http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice
http://www.wernerroth.de/en/staroffice/index.html
--
Garry Knight
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Java on Linux?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:57:27 +0100
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Exits Funnel wrote:
>Sun's JDK is available on linux but am wondering what alternatives there
>are.
http://www.ibm.com/java/jdk/118/linux/ IBM's jdk1.1.8 for Linux
http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html Blackdown Java 1.1.7 JDK for Linux
--
Garry Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: kppp and WindowMaker
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Sep 2000 20:23:28 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, root wrote:
>
>>i've some problems with the kppp-tool that i'm using to make my
>>internet connections. When kppp connects to the remote computer
>>i cannot start other applications from my WindowMaker Desktop. (like
>>Netscape...)
>>
>>Is this a bug of kppp or just a "real" Linux-newbie mistake!?
>
>It's two newbie mistakes. Firstly, this question gets asked often enough to be
>a FAQ. A search on Deja News should throw up the answer very quickly.
>http://www.deja.com
I guess this means I'll have to re-install KDE to check it out..
Sheesh.
>Secondly, this error can happen if you set kttp to auto-configure your host
>name from the IP that's dynamically assigned to you by your ISP. Doing this
>prevents the X server from recognising your host name. To fix this, start kppp
>and click Setup. Double-click the account name, then the IP tab. Uncheck the
>setting at the bottom of the dialog.
Not unless the server recognizes 'localhost', and the DISPLAY environment
variable is only '0.0'. But if the server requires a host name, then
the connection to the internet is probably done through a different
host completely. Correct me if I'm wrong...
--
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: 2 boxes, one file, no clue
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Sep 2000 20:32:57 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Bradley J. Bartram" wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have two systems with a common set of files. What I would like to do is
>> be able to take a directory from one machine and have it copied to another
>> at certain time during the day.
>>
>> Here's the trick, I don't want to use NFS or SMB to do it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>Maybe "rsync" package.
The Perl "mirror" package from metalab is what I use here, even though
it's unmaintained. Runs on every machine here, completely reliably.
It's at metalab/pub/Linux/system/network/, or something, I can't
get through right now.
--
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: laptop rh6.2 and PPP
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:41:13 GMT
I have loaded RH6.2 and upgraded to 2.2.16-3 kernel in a few m/cs. Now I
got a laptop from DIGITEK singapore with PIII 450, 96MB Ram and 6.3 GB
HDD. It has PCMCIA slot for modem with Bright 56k PCMCIA modem.
When I first started gnome dialer for Internet modem was recognized but
didn't
get connected. When I checked /var/log/messgaes, There I found no
support for
PPP in kernel. Further lsmod also gave no ppp. I have used the same CDs
used
for installing in desktops. There is no line in messages for for PPP
registering
as I found in desktop. Why same kernel from same CDs didn't have PPP
support in
laptop whereas it gives in desktop? Any solutions.
I have selected lcd panels 1024x768 for monitor. Any better solutions.
Mine XGA TFT monitor.
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Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: searching for old x game
Date: 27 Sep 2000 03:27:02 +0000
not really a linux specific question, but it does fit in the misc
category. i was wondering if anyone out there could jog my memory. i
remember playing a game in x in which one assumed the character of a
monster godzilla, some robot, a poison gas cloud, etc. and romped
around trying to smash up a town. what was that game? and is it
still available somewhere?
thanks in advance.
g.m.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE Sound Configuration
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:45:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I just posted a message about screen resolution and now I have
another
> >question concerning Linux setup. I can't figure out how to setup the
> >sound card. I did it before, but I forgot. I guess I wasn't paying
> >much attention, thinking I'd never have to do it again. Thank You.
>
> What do you mean by "set up the sound card"? Do you mean how do you
get it to
> work at all? Or, since your subject line is "KDE Sound
Configuration", do you
> mean how do you get KDE to use system sounds?
>
> You haven't even told us which sound card you have, by the way, which
makes it
> difficult to know what to suggest.
>
> --
> Garry Knight
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I'm sorry, Garry Knight. Perhaps my terms were a little vague and non-
descript. Perhaps the following paragraph(s) will provide a bit more
information.
My sound card is not configured, meaning it's not working and I can't
hear sounds at all. I'm not trying to get system sounds to work, I
need to get the card to work, so that I can hear system sounds. I have
a Sound Blaster sound card, and of what I remember of the last time I
set up the ol' card, it was horribly easy. I mean, 1 or 2 clicks and I
was done. But now that knowledge appears to have eluded me.
Oh yes, maybe my subject line was also off-task. I'm sorry, Garry
Knight. Thank You, Garry.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boot problem
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:53:53 GMT
I started up my computer today, running Red Hat 6.2, and I get this odd
error.
_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
Fatal Server Error
could not open default font 'fixed'
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
It displays the previous line about 8 times I think. Then it switches
to runlevel: 3, where I can hit Enter and go to the command prompt.
This error occurs when it is switching to the graphical login. I have
no idea what could be causing this. Please give me some help.
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From: jbrown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 install problems
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:41:45 -0700
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> I went to a Redhat Linux version 6.2 class last month. Finally got
> the
> cd(I was suppose to get in class) last week. I'll had nothing but
> problems. Finally I changed the cd rom to a Sony from a NEC and now I
>
> am getting a signal 7 error.
>
> Configuration:
> Dell
> Pentium 200 MMX
> 128 Meg memory
> Sony cd rom drive modelcdu701
> I went to Redhat and got the the latest anconda updates, same problem
>
> Any answers or insights to how you fix a signal 7 error?
>
> Thanks
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From: Fluri Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help: external modem on redhat 6.1
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:20:16 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> This is step one of a list of things I want to set up ppp, ipmasq, but
> getting the modem to work is the bottleneck. I am using my nt box to
> dial in because I can't get the same modem to work on my linux box
> consistently. I got it to work once so I know it can.
>
> Its an external usr modem not a winmodem.
>
> At this stage I'm plugging the modem into the serial port corresponding
> to ttyS1 (the one I got it to work on before) and trying to contact it
> using kermit (it seems easier then minicom, I never know what to do
> when in minicom). I've configured it using minicom -s, I've tried
> wvdial, and kermit and the system does not seem to recognize that the
> modem is even connected.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
This may sound like a stupid question and you can flame me
if it is: are you sure it's _actually_ hooked to ttyS1? Did
you try connecting to it through ttyS0, just to be sure?
--
Dave Fluri
North Bay, Ontario Canada
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: HELP! - Corel Linux install
Date: 28 Sep 2000 01:30:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:43:51 GMT, Glen Stromquist wrote:
>win98 or linux - I am just trying to salvage my data from the c: drive.
>This is what I've tried so far:
>*ran fdisk /mbr several times on the drive from a floppy - it seems to
>do something but I still cant boot the disk or see any data on it
>*ran partition magic 4 from a clean win98 install and a bootable
>floppy - it wont do a check on the disk, but see's it.
>*ran norton disk doctor from a bootable floppy - it diag's the disk as
>ok except wont repair the boot sector...
>*did clean install of W2K on another disk & used disk admin - no luck
>*installed the disk as a hdb (2nd), linux disk as hda and created
>a /home/win dir and tried to mount /dev/hdb hdb1 on it - still cant see
>any data because I get errors when trying to mount it.
>I am wondering if its worth my while to take the disk to a data
>recovery place - I heard that they are big $$$. I am still trying to
Don't do that unless the disk is physically damaged! It's unlikely (but
possible) this is the case. To find out if it is, plug the disk into
/dev/hdb and do something like
dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/null bs=8192 count=20000
and watch for error messages. If none come up, the disk isn't
physically damaged.
What does "fdisk -l /dev/hdb" show you? Does it look sane? There
should be one big partition on it if it's followed the standard Lose9x
conventions. If that is not the case, Linux fdisk can recreate the
partition table, or there's another utility called "gpart" that can do
the same thing in an automatic way. The mount command is "mount -t vfat
/dev/hdb1 /mountpoint" too--hdb by itself will not work.
I remember the first message in this thread; I don't think you did
anything that could've caused the filesystem on /dev/hdb to get hosed.
However, I was without Net access for 36 hours recently, and I've missed
about 140 articles in this NG. If you munged around with Lose9x disk
utilities, all bets are off... some of those can wreck a filesystem
beyond easy repair, just like their Linux counterparts.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM problem
Date: 28 Sep 2000 01:30:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:38:58 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I installed RH6.1 by booting from CD-ROM and I usually boot using the
>boot disk. However, when I try to mount CD-ROM mount comes back
>with "mount: Wrong medium type."
>I checked
>/proc/devices that says block device 22 is hdc, and is correct.
>/proc/filesystems says iso9660 is supported by kernel.
And what was the exact mount command you typed in? What does "mount -t
iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom" give you? If you just enter "mount
/mnt/cdrom", take a look at /etc/fstab and /dev/cdrom, since /dev/cdrom
may be pointing to the wrong place and/or /etc/fstab may be incorrect.
If there's no disc in the drive, or if you try to mount an audio CD, or
if you try to mount a CD-RW made with packet-writing software, you will
get this error message or one similar. (Audio CDs cannot be mounted,
you must get a kernel patch or use "cdparanoia" to copy tracks.
Packet-written media use the UDF filesystem, which requires an
experimental kernel patch.)
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Shaun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gathering a recursive list of URLs?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:16:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> `-nr'
> `--dont-remove-listing'
> Don't remove the temporary `.listing' files generated by FTP
> retrievals. Normally, these files contain the raw directory
> listings received from FTP servers. Not removing them can be
> useful to access the full remote file list when running a mirror,
> or for debugging purposes.
Aha! I believe this is what I'm looking for. Thanks Steve!
Shaun
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Command trouble? See the linux man pages online: http://linux.man-pages.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: CP/M: 'tis not _completely_ gone...
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:43:42 GMT
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:54:27 GMT, Christopher Browne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In our last episode (Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:37:18 -0400),
>the artist formerly known as Aaron R. Kulkis said:
>>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>> Note that sources to ZSDOS, an advanced upwards-compatible successor
>>> to CP/M, are now available under the GPL.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for an operating system to use with a Z-80,
>>
>>Ummm...err...but...why?
>
>- Because doing multitasking on an 80386 just seems Too Easy;
>- Because it's not as minimalist as programming PICs;
[snip]
You forgot:
- Because Z-80 chips are *really* cheap.
There was actually an article this month in Embedded Systems Journal
about Z-80 derivatives that are still being sold in quantity. I would
have loved a 25 MHz Z-80 back in the early 80's <g>.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: been hacked...have a question
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:48:49 GMT
MIchael Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > MIchael Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > If you 'trust' any IP outside your own subnet, you better do it VERY
> > > carefully. You can never 'trust' an IP outside your own subnet unless
> > > you have access to that network's servers. DNS is getting better. It
> > > still has a ways to go before we can trust the domain service
> > > completely.
>
> Actually, Johan, here I was being rather flippant -- my definition of
> trust
> and the gentleman asking the question are different. Still There is a
> thing
> called DNS cache poisoning. For example suppose there is a server up
> stream
> that is set up to give you a bad IP address for a name you query or vice
> versa.
>
> Since your system trusts the DNS server that gave it the name -- or IF
> YOUR DNS server TRUSTS the server that it got the name from, when that
> server is not authoritative for the domain. -- It becomes possible
> for someone to maliciously feed you a bad name or IP and redirect
> your traffic to a site which is not what it seems to be.
i was figuring that you had a trusted IP, e.g., you call you friend on
the phone and he says "my machine is at IP number x.y.z.w". i admit
that router tables can get hacked, but that doesn't have anything to
do with DNS.
dj bernstein has nice program called "dsncache" which goes to the root
name servers and builds up from there. oh, i see it's been renamed to
"djbdns". anyway, it seems to work a bit differently than "bind" and
it is much less trusting of so-called non-authoritative nameservers.
<URL:http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html>
> Your host will store that information in it's arp table. From there
> on out, your system will talk directly to the wrong IP address, until
> that address times out in the arp cache. That usually takes about
> 120 seconds of no packets exchanged.
> For example, I once saw this used to redirect people at an ISP to a site
> that LOOKED like it was Yahoo but when you (they) went to check their
> mail
> the site only took their username and password... then left them
> hanging.
>
> The problem is a very complex problem involving authentication. How
> does
> a DNS server KNOW the DNS server it is querying IS who it thinks it is?
>
> This is done with authentication... either based upon RSA or some other
> means of encryption. To date these 'specilized' DNS servers are usually
> DES based. I hope in the future we see a standard that requires DNS to
> authenticate using RSA and to maintain encrypted data streams to any
> DNS server willing to use the protocol. This would go a very long way
> towards bringing accountability back to the internet. The vast majority
> of name servers on the internet do not use any form of authentication
> except to trust an IP address.
>
> >
> > i am not sure if DNS plays any role here. correct me if i'm wrong but
> > doesn't DNS basically map a string to an IP number? if you've already
> > got the IP number, then DNS is out of the loop.
> >
> > --
> > J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> > [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > sysengr
>
> --
> "... freedom without responsibility belongs to children." - Grega Bremec
> Wise words.
>
> http://www.cryptography.org/getpgp.htm
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Java on Linux?
Date: 28 Sep 2000 00:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm new to Java but have been using Linux for a long time. I don't
think GNU has a java impl (yet, anyway) but if what you are really
asking is "is there a GPL'd Java implementation?" the answer is: Kaffe
(www.kaffe.org). I'm using it and it works great. I don't know (and
don't really care) what the performance diff is--I'm just messing
around right now and the app I'm building doesn't need performance.
Nor have I used the debugger (I'm a print statement person, myself)
although I know it comes with one--jdb.
And Exits Funnel Spoke:
>Hello,
>
>I'm a java developer new to linux (or any unix for that matter). I'm
>wondering what java compilers/tools most linux developers favor. I know
>Sun's JDK is available on linux but am wondering what alternatives there
>are. Does GNU have a Java offering? I'm looking for something with a
>good command line debugger. The debugger that comes with the JDK is
>really, really poor. Anyone have any suggestions or thoughts on the
>topic in general? Thanks in advance.
>
>Exits
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
- --
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