Linux-Misc Digest #885, Volume #20 Thu, 1 Jul 99 21:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Idea for new *nix site: yes or no? (Jason Sosinski)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Gerald Willmann)
Re: HELP PLEASE: can't play CDs under Linux (Gerald Willmann)
Re: What is "INIT: Id "s2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes"? (Ian Briggs)
Re: internet speed ("R.K.Aa")
glibc problem? (John Garrison)
Re: Cheap RH6.0 CD in UK? (Goran Milasinovic)
Re: internet speed ("Jim_Alvarez")
Re: An "ls" question (Carl Fink)
Re: Problem with ftape after upgrading to RH 6.0 (Derrick Boucher)
Re: first/second/third world ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: Navigator Fails. ("m&m")
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:49:59 -0700
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Warren Bell wrote:
> I've been running RedHat 5.2 and am wondering how SuSE Linux is. It
> seems to have a lot of the same features and RPM format. Is it just as
> good as RH? Better?
> I just want to make sure SuSE is a good OS and works well. It seems to
> be packed with features and apps for about half the price of RH 6.0.
Suse is not an OS. Linux is the OS - no matter which distro you use.
Don't think it's worth reinstalling Linux w/o specific reasons. Or would
you simply reinstall because the new distro might have a better
installation procedure ???
Gerald
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From: Jason Sosinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Idea for new *nix site: yes or no?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:51:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kris wrote:
> Hi Chris Harshman,
>
> >Sites like that quickly grow unwieldy and cumbersome.
> >Also, there's really no way of standing behind a script's
> >quality, especially once it surpasses a couple of dozen
> >lines and becomes a program in its own right. It might
> >be worth doing still, however. You'd need a comprehensive
> >way of indexing and cataloging contributions, and a
> >very effective search engine.
>
> A simple, complete tarball of all the entire site would be better IMO.
> That way people could browse it at their leisure. I doubt people would
> go there searching for a particular thing - I doubt it would get to the
> point of being like developer.com.
>
> >If you undertake this beast, I might also suggest
> >putting up a discussion forum of sorts (where newbies
> >can ask simple BASH questions, etc), links to
> >tutorials on the various shells
>
> Yep, that'd be done.
>
> >and a links to the
> >appropriate O'Reilly and Associates titles (maybe
> >an Amazon.com tie-in?) that will quickly become
> >essential:
> >
> >- linux in a nutshell
> >- Practical C programming
>
> Also the Perl ones, too.
>
> Hmmm. If I chose to do this, it *could* become a complete archive of
> hundreds of scripts and bits of sources. Eeek. I have my doubts as to
> whether people would contribute their home-made things, though. Like...
> if someone did a simple web interface so users on a network could change
> their smbpasswd and passwd, then I don't think they'd submit it. I'd
> just be scrambling around searching for nifty things at college (I have
> lots of free time...).
>
> Anyway, I'll decide eventually. Thanks for the input.
>
> --
> Kris
> For a faster reply, use:
> smaug [{at}] dufas [{dot}] globalnet.co.uk
I will contribute to it and use it. I am a new programer that uses mostly
Tcl/TK and expect programing but i would gladly submit any code I have in
either of those two launguages to you if you decide to do it. Lemme know.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:00:20 -0700
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Marcus Holmes wrote:
> Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : How much different is Linux than Unix? Are the system commands basically
> : the same? What are the major differences between the two? Please help
> : clarify this for me. Thank you in advance.
> Depending on what version of UNIX you are speaking of, you will find Linux to be
>very similar to
> other Unix flavors. The commands are basically the same, as you state, and the
>differences minimal.
> www.linux.org should put you in the right direction of finding more technical
>differences if need
> be.
there are also small non-technical differences. Commands (or rather
programs) are the same but the options have an annoying tendency to be
denoted differently. Try ps or df under linux and solaris and you'll see.
Gerald
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE: can't play CDs under Linux
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:54:23 -0700
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, U.V. Ravindra wrote:
> I don't know :-) My CD player doesn't have a headphone socket in
> the front panel (or anywhere else). It's shocking, but that's
> how it is.
but hopefully it has an audio cable which connects it to the soundcard ??
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: What is "INIT: Id "s2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes"?
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:17:10 GMT
Jim White wrote:
:INIT: Id "s2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
If you look in /etc/inittab you'll find a line beginning with "s2". At
the end of that line is a command. This command is failing to execute
properly.
Hope this helps.
Ian
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: internet speed
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:03:13 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Two things, first check your /var/log/message file if should tell you
> at what speed you connected to your ISP. Second check KKKP setup, look
> for modem speed set it to 115200.
Question: i checked for fun in /var/log/message:
Jun 27 07:46:54 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/modem
at 115200
Jun 27 07:46:54 localhost pppd[5154]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
Jun 27 07:47:18 localhost pppd[5154]: Serial connection established.
Jun 27 07:47:18 localhost pppd[5154]: Using interface ppp0
Jun 27 07:47:18 localhost pppd[5154]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
Jun 27 07:47:21 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-21
Jun 27 07:47:21 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-26
Jun 27 07:47:22 localhost modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-24
Jun 27 07:47:22 localhost pppd[5154]: local IP address 195.159.32.50
Jun 27 07:47:22 localhost pppd[5154]: remote IP address 195.159.0.22
I can't see what speed i actually connect at there...only the max
speed i set the script up for.
How *do* I find the real connect speed? Eventually measure it in the
bypass..
i could clock a download I guess but there must be some utility?
It's a 28.8 modem and I suspect it doesn't actually connect at 115200..
K.
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From: John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glibc problem?
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:01:29 GMT
After compiling a program (BasiliskII) I tried to run it. It immediatly
SegFaults. A look a gdb reveals this. It looks to me as though it is
crashing right after main, so I commented out the entire body of the
main function and recompiled, it is still seg faulting. I looked up
genops.c on the internet and found that it is part of glibc. It is
behaving as though I am trying to run libc5 binaries on a glibc system
or a glibc2.0 -> glibc2.1 problem, but I compiled it with my computer so
there wouldn't be any compatiblitly problems would there?
I should note that Basilisk is a C++ program and I have both libstdc++
2.8 and 2.9 on my system. I RPM'd the newer once and couldn't use -U
becuase everything else needed 2.8. Maybe I can force remove 2.8 and
symlink libstdc++.so.2.9 to libstdc++.so.2.8, but I don't think that
would solve my problem here.
any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x4027b741 in _IO_sgetn () at genops.c:274
genops.c:274: No such file or directory.
Current language: auto; currently c
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4027b741 in _IO_sgetn () at genops.c:274
#1 0x40307bdf in fread_unlocked (buf=0xbffffc48, size=44, count=1,
fp=0x81ee6d8) at iofread_u.c:43
#2 0x4033bc14 in __tzfile_read (file=0x403950f1 "/etc/localtime")
at tzfile.c:162
#3 0x4033ab93 in tzset_internal (always=0) at tzset.c:172
#4 0x4033b99a in __tzset () at tzset.c:542
#5 0x808000a in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffffd34) at main_unix.cpp:87
#6 0x402cbcb3 in __libc_start_main (main=0x807ffe0 <main>, argc=1,
argv=0xbffffd34, init=0x8075d20 <_init>, fini=0x811506c <_fini>,
rtld_fini=0x4000a350 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffd2c)
at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:78
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:24:08 +0200
From: Goran Milasinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cheap RH6.0 CD in UK?
How about SuSE 6.1 Linux... it's about 46 Euro (about 30-35 pounds ?) and
includes StarOffice & other stuff... or the SuSE snapshot (23 Euros, but it
doesn't feature as many
extra software and no book but it's cheap)...
If there are no 'religious' issues, have a try.. you can order it online at
www.suse.com
Cheers
Goran
Robert Peters wrote:
> Does anyone know of a cheap source in the UK for Redhat 6.0 CD. I do not
> want to ftp download, nor do I want to pay in the region of UKP60 for a
> free OS!
>
> Cheers
>
> Rob Peters
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From: "Jim_Alvarez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: internet speed
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:38:06 -0700
Heres what my looks like;
Jul 1 17:13:53 samba pppd[563]: Starting link
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: abort on (BUSY)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: abort on (ERROR)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: abort on (Invalid Login)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: abort on (Login incorrect)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: send (ATZ^M)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: expect (OK)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: ATZ^M^M
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: OK
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: -- got it
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: send (ATDT3080962^M)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: expect (CONNECT)
Jul 1 17:13:54 samba chat[13422]: ^M
Jul 1 17:14:16 samba chat[13422]: ATDT3080962^M^M
Jul 1 17:14:16 samba chat[13422]: CONNECT
Jul 1 17:14:16 samba chat[13422]: -- got it
Jul 1 17:14:16 samba chat[13422]: send (^M)
Jul 1 17:14:16 samba chat[13422]: expect (ogin:)
Jul 1 17:14:16 samba chat[13422]: 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS^M
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: ^M
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: ^M
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: login:
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: -- got it
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: send (loginname^M)
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: expect (ord:)
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: ^M
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: login: *******^M
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: Password:
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: -- got it
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba chat[13422]: send (*******^M)
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba pppd[563]: Serial connection established.
Jul 1 17:14:18 samba pppd[563]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
Jul 1 17:14:20 samba kernel: PPP BSD Compression module registered
Jul 1 17:14:21 samba kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered
Jul 1 17:14:21 samba pppd[563]: Local IP address changed to 209.20.173.69
You can see that I connected at 50666. When you set the modem speed to
115200 the modem will connect at the highest possible speed up to 115200.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: An "ls" question
Date: 2 Jul 1999 00:15:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1 Jul 1999 01:04:52 -0400 Paul Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>I have e-mailed my concerns to Richard Stallman directly, however he prefers
>info, so that's that... Any got manpages for libc6?
I'm not a C programmer, but maybe the egcs fork of the gcc effort
have better sense than Stallman?
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
From: Derrick Boucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with ftape after upgrading to RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:00:17 GMT
I had a similar (identical?) problem. After slogging through man pages, I
finally solved it. I performed a "custom" installation and, apparently,
the ftape module was NOT included in the kernel.
I followed the replies that Michael got to his original post, and not one
"expert" suggested this fix. Apparently it was too obvious to mention.
Here are my notes on my fix:
================================
After installing RH6.0, I inserted a tape and ran the command:
mt -f /dev/ftape status
(Returned: No such device.)
As root, I entered the /dev/ directory and:
./MAKEDEV ftape
(mt still returned no such device)
As root, I went to /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/misc wherein there were two
"modules" ftape.o and zftape.o .
I entered the following:
insmod ftape
insmod zftape
Then, (this may not have been necessary, as the sym. links were already in
/dev/) I ran the MAKEDEV command again from /dev.
I then inserted a tape and "mt -f /dev/ftape status" fired up the tape
drive and gave a status report. 30 minutes later, I did a backup of some
crucial files I saved in RH5.1 using the "tar" command.
============================
I must say that I have found many parts of Linux obvious but the HOWTOs
and man pages are nearly useless if one is missing a crucial bit of
information. In my case, these bits were that:
1. ftape is NOT included in the 2.2.5-15 kernel, contrary to the ftape
documentation (maybe Red Hat removed it?)
2. The connection between the kernel an "modules". Am I to understand that
these are compiled object codes that just have to linked to the kernel
executable? This is a simple concept that I never really came accross
before.
Now I can get back to doing some physics on my linux box!
De r r i c k . .. _ __ _______ __o
Bo u c h e r . .. _ __ _____ _-\<,_
(_)/ (_)
========================================================================
Dr. Derrick E. Boucher (570) 208-5900 ext. 5427
Assistant Professor of Physics (570) 825-9049 FAX
King's College [EMAIL PROTECTED]
133 N. River St.
Wilkes-Barre PA 18711
========================================================================
On 28 Jun 1999, Michael Davis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had had ftape working nicely, I backed up my system and did an
> upgrade from RH5.1 to 6.0.
>
> But now ftape no longer works:
>
> /tmp/etc # cd /dev
> /dev # ls -l ftape
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 26 1998 ftape -> rft0
> /dev # ls -l rft0
> crw-rw---- 1 root disk 27, 0 May 5 1998 rft0
> /dev # lsmod
> Module Size Used by
> ppp 18316 2 (autoclean)
> slhc 4328 1 (autoclean) [ppp]
> pnp 45284 0
> emu8k 38600 0
> opl3 13228 0
> sb 31964 0
> uart401 6740 0 [sb]
> midi 27528 0 [pnp emu8k opl3 sb uart401]
> soundbase 481092 0 [pnp emu8k opl3 sb uart401 midi]
> sndshield 4784 0 [pnp emu8k opl3 sb uart401 midi
> soundbase]
> ftape 105844 0 (autoclean) (unused)
> nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean)
> msdos 8220 1 (autoclean)
> fat 25664 1 (autoclean) [msdos]
> /dev # tar tf /dev/ftape
> tar: Cannot open /dev/ftape: No such device
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
> BTW, the tape drive works fine under windows, so it's not a hardware problem.
>
>
> --
> // Michael Davis -- Solaris code slave and happy Linux User.
> //
> // From sunny Toronto...
>
>
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:03:11 -0700
Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7lgk2a$ifc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <7leg8i$j4e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Craig Brozefsky wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>Rob Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>Well shit dewd, where have YOU been? Well, maybe you aren't old
>>>enough to remember Allenda, and the United Fruit Company, and Arbenz
>>>in Guatamala and the United Fruit Company again, and your namesake
>>>Hughes Telecom was also instrumental in the overthrow of Allende.
>>
>>I presume you're referring to Salvatore Allende of Chile? Chile doesn't produce
>>fruit.
>
>Which must be why there's all that stuff with "From Chile" in my local
>grocery store's fruit section. I forgot what it is but I make sure not
>to buy it, just like I don't buy from Del Monte, Chiquita or Nestle ...
>
>With Chile is usually associated the Anaconda Copper saga. Every politician
>of the day (left, right and center) was going to nationalize the copper mines
>but the US-owned company wasn't too happy with that so they gave millions to
>the CIA so it could assassinate Allende and, when that failed to bring down
>his party, to just overthrow the government. Other US companies were also
>involved; the media focuses on those whose money the CIA rejected.
Allende was killed in his palace by an ariel bombardment ordered by Pinochet. How did
the CIA manage to assasinate him then?
>
>And it's Salvador, not Salvatore.
Excusez moi, je ne parle pas chilean.
>
>Note for anyone who cares, I confused Nicaragua with El Salvador in
>my previous post.
>
> Arbenz was in Nicaragua and overthrown by the Sandanista's under Daniel
>>Ortega, not a friend of the US.
>
>Arbenz was the head of state of Guatemala when it was overthrown by a
>CIA backed coup d'etat. The FSLN (Sandinistas) took over after Somoza
>(a brutal military dictator) resigned. All but two of the top leaders
>of the US-backed terrorists (known as "freedom-fighters in the US media)
>operating in Nicaragua were members of the Somozist National Guard.
>
>>>Then there is the little fact that Columbia's death squads are funded
>>>and trained by U.S. military, and happen to have a death and
>>>disappearance rate comparable to that in Kosovo prior to NATOs
>>>destruction of Yugoslavia.
>>
>>This is a blatant lie. I was in the US Military and did some covert
>>work in that area
>>in the early 80's, not training type, mapping and such.
>
>What the fuck kind of argument is that; *you* didn't participate in it
>so obviously there cannot have been such a thing?! Are you asserting
>that you make up the bulk of the US military? Or maybe that you were
>a General in charge of Nicaragua operations at the time?
>
>What do you think your maps in South America were used for?
Well we were there on the behest of the legitimate Columbian Government. We weren't,
nor did we observe any US interaction with the Cartel or their goons. We did have
them under surveillance, close surveillance.
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From: "m&m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Navigator Fails.
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:42:39 -0400
As you said Frank, I ran Navigator from the command line, and when navigator
quit, the error message was "Bus error".
I was not able to locate any options to disable Java in preferences.
In the netscape directory, there is no java director exists.
Any more advices?
Thanks
Frank Riha wrote in message ...
>"m&m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi fellows:
>> Whenever I try to visit web pages with Java functions enabled, such as
>> www.java.sun.com, Navigator quits without any warning. Is there a way to
>> correct this problem?
>> Thanks
>> m&m
>
>Have you tried disabling Java in the preferences?
>
>Are you getting any messages from it? Run it from the command line,
>or check the ~/.xsession-errors file. It could be a mismatched .jar
>file. Sometimes if you have a CLASSPATH defined it can mess up the
>Navigator JVM. Mine usually doen't die tho', just can't start java.
>You can also add the java40.jar file in the netscape/java/classes
>directory onto your classpath, but this could cause some problems with
>standalone Java apps.
>
>Some things to try, anyways.
>
>fdr
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