Linux-Misc Digest #903, Volume #19 Mon, 19 Apr 99 15:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Old version of linux? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Leahy)
Re: Sound Card Problems (eisme@theoldsameplace)
Samba help... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux (Leahy)
Re: ppp-on ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What if DNS gets down for a long time? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ppp-on ("D. Vrabel")
Turtle Beach Fiji setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: STRANGE HDD PROBLEM (Stefan Heimers)
Re: This is not an oppinion - just an interesting fact. (Stefan Heimers)
Re: Information for students (Stefan Heimers)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? (Peter)
Re: ATI xpert 128 AGP help (Francisco Romero)
Re: X-CD-Roast Problem (Steve)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Bill Frisbee")
Re: Wanted!!!! TUX (jik-)
Re: Samba help... (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet? (Ron Wellsted)
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old version of linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:56:01 -0500
Why do you want an old version of Linux? Why not any modern "non-rpm"
version of linux. I can think of two off hand:
Slackware would be the first choice and Debian would be the second
(because it uses its own proprietary dpkg packing system).
Tom Veldhouse
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Matthew King wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>(please cc [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>Does anyone, preferably in Britain, have an old version of linux they
>would be prepared to give - or sell :( - me. I do not mind which
>distribution, but I would prefer it to be pre-RPM.
>
>Many thanks,
>Matthew King,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:49:35 -0700
"Stephen H. Kapit" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Everyone was so enamored of the win nt response, they forgot to answer my
> original question! So, if anyonw would like to comment, I'm trying to decide
> which system to get. Either FressBSD or Linux.
> The system will be used for web hosting only. No dial up access. ftp, pop mail,
> mysql, heitml and some other things. Any comments?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Stephen
I guess the main question then is "How loaded will the system get?"
I think most will agree (unless you ask on a Linux newsgroup) that under very high
loads
FreeBSD is more stable.
If its going to be a light to moderate load, the answer is (IMO) 6 in one, half
dozen in the other.
So then, as a user of both operating systems, I will say that Linux might be
slightly easier to configure for those not very familiar with UNIX type systems.
Either OS has all the capabilities you need.
FreeBSD is rock stable under light or very heavy loading.
Linux will take care of light to moderate loads very well and is easier to set up.
(once again IMO).
Chris
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From: eisme@theoldsameplace
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound Card Problems
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:25:19 GMT
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:20:41 -0500, "Jonathan Wiens"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having trouble setting up my sound card to run under Linux. I have
>a Sound Blaster AWE 64 PnP and I am running Red Hat 5.1 with Kernel version
>2.0.35
> When I attempt to run sndconfig, everything works fine until I get to
>the testing stage. Here it states that there is an error running modprobe.
>I have also noticed that when booting, the messages "Can not find module:
>sound" and "Can not find module: midi" appear.
> I have reviewed the file /etc/isapnp.conf and everything seams to be
>alright. It appears that the card is recognized.
> Would anybody be able to help me get my sound card working?
>
>Jonathan Wiens
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
I would get a copy of "Linux unleashed" for redhat from the local
bookstore.
It comes with the 2.0.36 kernel (and the patches for earlier versions)
The 5.2 linux supports awe 32/64 sound. I spent $32 US for the book at
bookstar. The book will help a lot. Even if you are a guru, it will
give you insight into things you never thought about.
so i've heard
__
eisme
sed 's/stuff/shite/g' .rantrc >>rant 2>/dev/null &
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Samba help...
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:21:47 GMT
Greetings,
I am farely new to the Linux world and, while I'm learning more and more every
day I have come accross this stumbling block...
I am attempting to setup Samba release 2.0.3 and while attempting to build the
binaries by running ./configure I get the following messages:
Checking for gcc... no
Checking for cc... no
Configure:error:no acceptable cc found in $PATH
Can anyone offer help in understanding this error?
Thanks in advance,
Freddy V.
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From: Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:00:48 -0700
Donn Miller wrote:
> "Stephen H. Kapit" wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting only system. I seem to be
> > coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on this for me? I
> > plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram. And co-locating
> > the server.
>
> I'd prefer FreeBSD over Linux. But if I were using Linux, I wouldn't
> use RedHat. Debian or Slackware are the Linuces I recommend. A lot
> of people don't like Slackware (it's what I use), but Linux isn't my
> main OS, FreeBSD and Windows are. Slack doesn't seem to be too "up"
> on glibc2, aka libc6, though beta versions of Slack might have
> packages available.
>
> Just check out:
>
> BSDs:
> http://www.freebsd.org/
> http://www.openbsd.org/
> http://www.netbsd.org/
>
> Linuces:
> http://www.linux.org/
> http://www.slackware.com/
> http://www.debian.org/
>
> --
> Donn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards to Donn, I'm not familiar with Debian or Slackware so I cant really
compare. I use RedHat 5.2
(as well as FreeBSD 3.1) I'm not sure why he is recommending against RedHat. I find
it to be stable and easy to set up. The accompanying software is extensive and
RPM's are readily available and easy to install. Compiling and installing from
source is also relatively simple. As I say though, I have not tried the other
Linuxes.
Donn, can you tell me why you recommend against RedHat? I'm not being smart, I'm
genuinely curious.
Regards
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ppp-on
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:28:00 GMT
In article <7feg6q$vud$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lian PL) wrote:
> My ppp-on does not work. When I key in the command ppp-on ,bash says
> command not found.
> Could it be the path problem.
You can check your PATH variable, if you type : set <Enter>
If you see in the line (beginning with PATH) that /usr/local/bin:
is there (where your 'ppp-on' file resides), then it should run...
--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What if DNS gets down for a long time?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:15:48 GMT
In article <7ff3ia$vo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am a newbie to DNS. I have setup my Linux box to host my domain as primary
> server. My ISP will be the secondary. I need to ask that what should I expect
> when this primary host goes down for, say, 3-5 hours?
It's advisable to put more than 1-2 DNS item into your /etc/resolv.conf file.
If the first server is down, the others may be usable for name resolving...
--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp-on
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:51:03 +0100
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <7feg6q$vud$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lian PL) wrote:
> > My ppp-on does not work. When I key in the command ppp-on ,bash says
> > command not found.
>
> > Could it be the path problem.
> You can check your PATH variable, if you type : set <Enter>
> If you see in the line (beginning with PATH) that /usr/local/bin:
> is there (where your 'ppp-on' file resides), then it should run...
Just a small tip:
Since there are many variables try
set|grep PATH
to get only the PATH line.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Turtle Beach Fiji setup
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:52:59 GMT
I'm running the 2.2.6 kernel, on a PII@350 MHz, with 128 MB SDRAM.
I'm trying to put the Turtle Beach Fiji Card to work, I
followed the instructions on the modular sound driver docs
and on the README file at the top of the shar Multisound.
After loading the modules with:
modprobe soundcore
insmod msnd
insmod msnd_pinnacle cfg=0x260 io=0x290 irq=10 mem=0xd0000
The kernel log message is:
msnd_pinnacle: Turtle Beach MultiSound (Pinnacle/Fiji) Linux Driver Version
0.8.3.1, Copyright (C) 1998 Andrew Veliath
msnd_pinnacle: Non-PnP mode: configuring at port 0x260
msnd_pinnacle: 131072 byte audio FIFOs (x2)
msnd_pinnacle: Fiji revision C, Xilinx version 1.4, I/O 0x290-0x297, IRQ 10,
memory mapped to 0xc00d0000-0xc00d7fff
msnd_pinnacle: DSP reset
msnd_pinnacle: DSP firmware uploaded
There is no /proc/sound. The cat /dev/sndtat is not supported.
>From what I can make of the docs, there is only support for /dev/dsp,
not for /dev/audio. Now with the lastest version of the driver
there is also midi support.
Trying:
cat endoftheworld > /dev/dsp
it hangs and when interrupted gives the following kernel log
message:
msnd_pinnacle: Starting write for c50734a0
msnd: Enabling IRQ
msnd: Disabling IRQ
msnd_pinnacle: Stopping write for c50734a0
No sound is produced whatsoever.
I would appreciate if someone could give me a few pointers on
what is really happening, and suggest a possible solution.
Thank you,
Antonio Almeida
"Do not complain of the mean and the petty, for regardless of what you
have been told the mean and the petty are everywhere in control." - Goethe
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From: Stefan Heimers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: STRANGE HDD PROBLEM
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:00:21 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Make sure that Master/Slave jumpers are set right at HDs.
Make sure that CD-Roms are slave, if they are not alone on a cable. Some
don't like being master and have a slave disk.
Make sure all connected Devices are also connected to DC-power.
Do you have conflicting controllers on-board and in a slot?
Turn off shadow ram in BIOS.
If you still have problems, pull out all unnecessary cards.
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From: Stefan Heimers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This is not an oppinion - just an interesting fact.
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:48:39 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Desmond wrote:
>
> I saw a friend of mine compiling and running KDE under NT
X11 or Windows API? I'm just curious, I would never waste my time
compiling KDE for Windows, I don't even have Windows at home.
Stefan
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From: Stefan Heimers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Information for students
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:14:55 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I know that Linux is a free OS, but who distributes it?
Have a look at http://www.linux.org . There are many interesting
informations, and also links to distributors like www.suse.de,
www.redhat.com, www.debian.org .
> What's the main
> advantage of Linux over Windows?
It's free, it's stable, it's very flexible, you have the source-code, it
is capable of logging in many concurrent users.
> What does Microsoft do against Linux?
Sell Windows, corrupt standards,...
Stefan
--
Stefan Heimers, Klingelbergstrasse 69, CH - 4056 Basel Tel: ++41 61 261
27 96
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.datanetworks.ch/~sheimers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:01:39 -0400
In article <7f8c38$a83$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edwin E. Thorne"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's a vast amount of Linux software? The same amount as Windows has,
> and of the same quality?
There is a huge amount of software out there. If you consider that source
code is available from years and years of development in academia and the
total volume of software is HUGE. I would say the quality of this
software is better than MS. I say this because much of the software was
written to adress very specific problems and thus tends to be better. MSs
products tend to be develop fro a broad range of applications and does not
focus on specific problems. The software that comes to mind for me is the
Molecular modeling software. None exsistant on the NT side compared to
Unix
--
Peter
" Don't you eat that yellow snow
Watch out where the huskies go"
FZ
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From: Francisco Romero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: ATI xpert 128 AGP help
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:09:37 -0700
>
Do you have the lastest X-Server software?
I had the same video card for my linux box two months ago, and I got the PCI one,
and it works!
Also, check your RAM. Not only was the AGP card no good, but a RAM card wasn't
good either.
Also, my friend was having problems with his video card. For some reason the
mother board didn't accept the video card. He got an update for his ROM and it
worked.
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-CD-Roast Problem
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:28:36 +0000
Hi Tonny,
Actually, I have been trying to burn music CD-ROMs, and most of the time
I have been trying to burn fairly small amounts (say, half a disk) of
comilations of my favorites.
I have not yet tried burning data CD-ROMs; I don't know if they are that
much different. Do you need different burning software to burn data
instead of music?
Sorry about the delay in replying, but I have been away.
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From: "Bill Frisbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:21:06 -0400
D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Bill Frisbee wrote:
> All hardware manufacturers would be doing be releasing there drivers as
> open source would be providing the interface to there hardware. It would
> say nothing about the internals of the hardware which they
> (understandably) like to keep.
And that would not allow you to use all the features in the Voodoo3, TNT,
SoundBlaster Live!, any Aureal stuff, and a lot of other high end video
cards that are very dependent on driver support.
> Someone must explain to me why a PCI soundcard is much better than a ISA
> one. The bandwidth required for CD quality sound is well, well below the
> maximum bandwidth of the ISA bus. There is no technical reason that you
> couldn't put the same hardware of the Soundblaster Live! on an ISA
> soundcard.
data... the ISA bus cannot handle the amount of data and the speed of data
required. Also an ISA slot tends to take up more CPU resources than PCI. PCI
is capable of more voices, clearer 3D sounds and less latency.
> You must be rather misinformed. There are C++ compiliers, JAVA, Oracle
> and other major database programs for linux.
C++ compliers yes, but NO Java2 support, and all those databases that
support Linux you have to PAY for to use which goes against the Slashdot
longhair mantra of "FREE SOFTWARE". Sure you can get a single user copy for
free and use it for testing only, but not for real life applications, in
fact the 8i license (for the linux test version) from Oracle also prohibits
you from having more than one active connection, which is USELESS for
anything but saying "COOL".
> There is an opensource flight sim FlightGear http://www.flightgear.org/.
> Though I agree there is a lack of commercial games for linux.
it is a JOKE, graphics are horrible, fligh model is WAY out of wack... I sad
a REAL flight sim...
Linux is an EXCELLENT server OS without a doubt but there are SEVERAL MAJOR
areas which prevent it from being much else. One of which is the attitude of
some Linux users that if you don't use linux you don't know what you are
doing and other typical elitist attitudes. Do I support and program for
Linux? yes I do. Do I make much money off of it... actually NONE. Meanwhile
while the Slashdot longhairs are complaining about how often NT or Win98
crashes, I am here making money with both OS's without any of these SO
called problems.
Bill F.
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:22:40 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wanted!!!! TUX
D. Vrabel wrote:
>
> On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, jik- wrote:
>
> > Kang Ch'ang-su wrote:
> > >
> > > I need images of TUX.
> > >
> > > Where do I get images?
> > >
> > > I want not plain images but cute images.
> >
> > I ate him....went hunting in the arctic and blasted TUX, made a fire and
> ^^^^^^
> I'm surprised you found any penguins at all in the arctic. They are
> exclusively a southern hemisphere bird.
Well he was there, I was there, I was hungry and sick of him grinning at
me and looking so stupid so I blasted him with my rail gun and
eliminated his head....end of story.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Samba help...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:32:43 GMT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:21:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I am farely new to the Linux world and, while I'm learning more and more every
>day I have come accross this stumbling block...
>
>I am attempting to setup Samba release 2.0.3 and while attempting to build the
>binaries by running ./configure I get the following messages:
>
>Checking for gcc... no
>Checking for cc... no
>Configure:error:no acceptable cc found in $PATH
>
>Can anyone offer help in understanding this error?
>Thanks in advance,
According to the samba configuration program, you haven't installed
a C compiler. gcc is a specific C compiler (Gnu C), and cc is the
generic c compiler command.
Install the programming language tools and retry
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Wellsted)
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.database.oracle
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:56:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 Apr 1999 12:04:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip W
Ross) wrote:
>In article <01be89ee$6008e510$24921e18@box1>, Lesser wrote:
>>I haven't gotten mine yet. I was wondering if anyone else has though.
> Not me, I'm still waiting too.
>
>--
>Phillip Ross
>Financial Information Systems
>Application Support Services
I downloaded it (150Mb) over the ISDN link at work. It works well. A
Win32 cliant application just had to be pointed to the new server and it
worked first time.
--
Ron Wellsted BSc, MCSE
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web page: http://www.csc-solutions.co.uk
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