Linux-Misc Digest #903, Volume #23 Mon, 20 Mar 00 04:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: I'm Lost!! New to Linux
Re: telnet, keyboard-mappings, emulations.. (Patrick Erler)
Several NT to Linux migration questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Huge? Tiny? on xterm (Potter Wickware)
Re: How do I get rid of LILO? ("Chad")
how to change screen resolution (Mohd Nazri)
Re: Help: installed AWE64 isa, now 3c900b won;t work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Huge? Tiny? on xterm (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Help: installed AWE64 isa, now 3c900b won;t work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: quake installation error (Andreas Kahari)
help! PPP cable direct connection still doesn't work! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: isdn for linux (Robert Klemme)
Re: setting up my network (Andy Guibert)
Re: fetchmail socket error (Robert Klemme)
Re: With ppp-howto, serial howto, I still can't connect 2 pc with direct cable.Why?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: best way to copy a hd? (William Park)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: I'm Lost!! New to Linux
Date: 20 Mar 2000 01:31:57 -0500
Hm, that's pretty much it. The two white boxes are probably 'xterms',
programs that open a window with a shell, a command line interrpreter
like bash, and wait for your commands. The first word at the prompt
is your login name, the second word, 'localhost' is the hostname of
the machine you are logged in to, and the last, '/ldweber', is the
name of your cwd, current working directory. Try these commands to
start poking around:
pwd * print working directory
cd * change working directory
ls * list files in the cwd
more <filename> * page through a long file using the spacebar
man <command> * view a command's manual page
I'd recommend picking up _Learning the UNIX Operating System_
published by O'Reilly as it's great for beginners and you can plow
through it in about 45 minutes.
HTH,
final
In article <aldB4.89$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Larry wrote:
>I have installed Linux which went ok. I'm running a separate HD for Linux so
>I use a boot disk to launch Linux. That all works ok. I log on ok with name
>& passwd & I appear to go to XWindows . Blue background with 2 white boxes
>where my command line comes up.
>
>{ldweber@localhost /ldweber} $
>
>How do I get to an actuall desktop environment??
>
>Thanking you in advance. Larry...
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Erler)
Subject: Re: telnet, keyboard-mappings, emulations..
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:15:57 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T.E.Dickey) wrote in
<yQbB4.627$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Patrick Erler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> but, what i wonder everytime, what is different at the linux-side
>> (environment-variables?) when i log into the box with different
>> terminal applications? maybe something strange gets set when i log in
>> with CRT?
>
>some emulators can (usually) set your $TERM variable, some don't.
>perhaps that is what you are talking about.
only $TERM or something other "behind the scenes" (i told my CRT to force
term to crt-vt220 and it works..)?
PAT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Several NT to Linux migration questions
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:23:10 GMT
So here's my current situation:
1. Writing code, doing other real work on an out of date (2.6) solaris
box which I don't manage.
2. Using netscape as an integrated browser/mail client on NT. This is
bad. Netscape is crashing/corrupting a lot lately.
(Yes, I have two computers on my desk at work.)
3. Frequently getting M$ stuff in attachments. I like being able to
launch Word, etc from a single click on the attachment.
4. This is the biggie. Synching address book and calendar program
(meeting maker) with my palm IIIx. This is very important, as my Pilot
will sometimes beep at me and get my lazy ass out of bed so I don't
miss early meetings.
5. This is a nicety. Synching my palm pilot with AvantGo in NT, so I
can pull down the New York Times, etc.
Desire- To do everything in Linux because I'm a unix junkie, NT sucks,
and BG is the OS antichrist.
Problems:
1. Palm synch support.
Can I get Avantgo from Linux?
Could I have done my PalmOS 3.3 upgrade without using NT?
Can I synch my Palm with Meeting Maker from Linux?
2. Good integrated mail reader/browser required:
Is there a good linux browser/mail client out there?
I hate to admit it, but IE is a superior product to Navigator.
Some people rave about MUTT for a mail client, but for God's sake,
the thing looks like a VT100 with finger paint on it.
I am a total XEmacs geek, and I would love to be able to
M-C-<whatever> my heart away while I compose messages, but I'm not
sure I'm ready to give up rich text composition.
3. Good and reliable window manager required.
The version of enlightenment packaged with RH6.0 froze on me
way too much. I just ordered mandrake and I will be giving KDE
a try.
4. Browser plugins.
If I browse in linux, I'll be missing out on certain
multimedia stuff, right?
Any advice or support would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Potter Wickware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Huge? Tiny? on xterm
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:41:12 GMT
Hello All --
There's a shell utility that changes the size of the xterm font, but I
can't remember what it's called.
A couple of the arguments I do remember are "huge" (banner sized) and
"tiny" (so small you can't see it.)
Any help much appreciated.
Potter
Potter Wickware
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From: "Chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get rid of LILO?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:36:29 -0500
Hum sounds like you have a partition still on your hd that contains your
linux kernel. Have you ran fdisk from linux and made sure to delete all
linux related partitions? You don't need to run setup to do this just get a
mini-distro. Toms is a good one. you can boot up into a linux kernel with
a file system and all from 1 floppy from there you can run linux fdisk and
remove a offending partitons.
hope that helps
"Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9yeB4.5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A few months back I tried dual-booting between Win2k and Red Hat Linux
6.1.
> Linux kept choking so I killed it. Now, a few months later, I'm trying to
> dual-boot between Win2k and Win98 by switching boot-up drives in the BIOS,
> where Win98 is going on the same hard drive that I had put Linux on
before.
> But I can't seem to be able to get rid of LILO. I have formatted the
drive
> from within Win2k and from within DOS, and I tried "fdisk /mbr" but still
no
> go. The whole Linux kernel seems to be booting, but bootup dies when it
> tries to mount the file system since I formatted the drive.
>
> What gives? Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon Davis
>
>
>
>
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From: Mohd Nazri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to change screen resolution
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:30:07 GMT
hi,
as u can see my subject is.....
i'm newbies... help me please.
thanx in advance.
bye
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help: installed AWE64 isa, now 3c900b won;t work
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:57:02 GMT
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:28:34 +0200, "Andreas Meile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My mainboard: Gigabyte GA586TX3
>
>What kind of mainboard do you have?
Mine is a Gigabyte GA-586T2. I have suspected the possibility that it
has some sort of flaw for a while because of a few similar problems I
have experienced that others have not.
>Go to its homepage and look for a BIOS update. This often helps :-), but
>sometimes not.
This I think I will do.
>My only solution, which fully satisfied me, was to exchange this mainboard
I have considered this also. I may do so.
> Andreas
thanks
Wade Segade
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Huge? Tiny? on xterm
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:01:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Potter Wickware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All --
>
> There's a shell utility that changes the size of the xterm font, but I
> can't remember what it's called.
>
> A couple of the arguments I do remember are "huge" (banner sized) and
> "tiny" (so small you can't see it.)
>
> Any help much appreciated.
>
> Potter
>
> Potter Wickware
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> =======================================
>
>
The utility is called "The control key and the right mouse button".
/A
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Subject: Re: Help: installed AWE64 isa, now 3c900b won;t work
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:12:51 GMT
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:59:58 GMT, David Steuber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>According to the Windoze settings, there are no conflicts, yet eth0
>>fails on boot as soon as the AWE64 isa was installed
>
>I went through this problem over a year ago. I'm using all my IRQs in
>my main machine now. What I did was not at all elegant or fun. I
>don't remember the exact details, but it had to do with turning off
>PnP in the bios settings, fiddling with IRQs and turning it on again
>in order to force each PnP device (two NICs (3Com), video, AWE64) to
>pick a unique IRQ.
I have done something similar ('though not quite so involved) for a
similar problem. I may be forced to try this.
>
>My guess is that your eth0 has picked up on the video IRQ, if it is a
>PCI card. Windows won't report which IRQ is used by video and won't
>report a conflict. Windows allows IRQ sharing on the PCI bus.
Windows device mangler tells me video and 3c900b have different irq's,
but I think your idea has merit. I suspect a conflict with the AWE64.
I shall investigate further.
Thanks
Wade Segade
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: quake installation error
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:06:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bergeron Bernard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was a fatal error...
>
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LANG = "fr_FR"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
This far, it's not fatal.
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file '-r' -- using '*/*'
Here, the script starts to get things wrong. '-r' is probably a flag to
some command, but the script thinks it's a file. This continues...
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file '-n' -- using '*/*'
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file 'Verifying' -- using '*/*'
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file 'archive' -- using '*/*'
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file 'integrity...' -- using '*/*'
> Error: no such file '-r'
> Error: no such file '-n'
> Error: no such file 'Verifying'
> Error: no such file 'archive'
> Error: no such file 'integrity...'
> OK
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LANG = "fr_FR"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file '-r' -- using '*/*'
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file '-n' -- using '*/*'
> Warning: unknown mime-type for file 'Uncompressing Quake III Arena
Demo'
That last thing is a message that the script should probably display,
but it's being interpreted as a file name. How strange...
> -- using '*/*'
> Error: no such file '-r'
> Error: no such file '-n'
> Error: no such file 'Uncompressing Quake III Arena Demo'
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> lpr: . is a directory
> ....and so on....
>
Sorry, can't debug it. Try getting a new copy from a different source.
/A
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Subject: help! PPP cable direct connection still doesn't work!
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:10:17 GMT
Hi,Sirs:
I am trying to build a network with direct cable running PPP for
several days. But till now it doesn't work.
the what I got is :
after I run pppd on both computers (both running redhat 6.0),I can
find nothing. If I run ifconfig ppp0 up, I will get
" ppp0 not active
SIOCSIFFLAGS: device not configured"
However, using minicom the 2 computer can communicate with each other.
I can't ping each other.
PC1 has 1 ethernet card which connects to internet. Its address is
210.28.130.33. On its serial port 2 has a direct cable link to PC2.
the IP addr on PC1 is 192.168.0.1
like this:
ethernet |----------| direct cable |------|
| | | |
.....210.28.130.33...| PC1 |.192.168.0.1...192.168.0.2.| PC2 |
|----------| |------|
I have run getty.
I think setserial doesn't need to be run in my enviornment.
I also run pppd. Both side run:
pppd -detach lock 192.168.0.1(2):192.168.0.2(1) 9600&
What I missed?
I also have following questions:
How to check that getty is working?
does direct cable connection need chat script to be run before link is
up?
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From: Robert Klemme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: isdn for linux
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:22:04 +0100
hi frank,
seems that most likely the calls are no data calls but voice calls.
note that a call from a standard analogue modem is viewed as a voice
call by the isdn system! you can't normally call an isdn card from an
analogue modem.
regards
robert
Frank schrieb:
>
> Hi
>
> I need to setup a dial in server using ISDN. I'm using a Eicon diva
> 2.01 pci modem and tried it under Redhat 6.1 and Suse 6.2. I succeed to
> dial out in both distributions, but none of them is able to detect an
> incoming call.
>
> E.g. using minicom i can make a connection, but when I am called, no
> "RING" appears.
>
> In /var/log/messages the following kernel message is shown:
>
> ... isdn_net: call from 617 -> 0 3 ignored
> ... isdn_tty: call from 617 -> 3 ignored
>
> Hence mgetty can't respond to the caller.
>
> Does anybody know a solution for this?
>
> Greetings
>
> Frank
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From: Andy Guibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up my network
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:27:55 -0500
wally wrote:
> 1) My linux box is unable to detect my network card(linksys 10/100 LAN
> card).I have a feeling the non-detection is because the linux drivers have
> not been installed. Is this right? If it is then how can I install the
> drivers?
>
There's a few things that you need to know about Linksys' LNE100TX (10/100 LAN
adapter). There's been three revisions of the card. All three cards are DEC
tulip variants and hence use the tulip (or slightly modified) driver. Have a
look at the network card and see what's printed on the biggest chip, if you
see a number ending with 168 or 169, you should use the "generic" driver
that's included in kernel 2.2.14 (there's been some issues with previous
kernels). More recent LNE100TXs (3rd revision, what they called version 2.0)
support a feature called "Wake-up On LAN" (WOL), and require a special driver
for it to work properly. Linksys includes this driver on "Disk 2" that is
distributed with such cards under a directory conveniently called "linux". The
compile instructions are included at the bottom of tulip.c, so just cat the
file and copy it at the command line... :)
I've got 6 LNE100TXs in machines at home right now and had to learn the hard
way... @ http://www.linksys.com/support/solution/nos/linux_lne100tx.htm ...
hehehe
>
> 2) I have just done a server installation on my box and I'm now trying to
> recompile the KERNEL using the follwing commands:
> cd /usr/src/linux
> make config
> but its coming up with an error message saying : can't target 'config'.
It appears as if you don't have the entire sources for your kernel. If you
were recompiling your kernel to get your network card working, I guess you
won't have to worry about it. If you weren't, you can now pull 2.2.14 off of
kernel.org... :)
Hope this helps,
Andy
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From: Robert Klemme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: fetchmail socket error
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:24:28 +0100
hi there,
did you try to ping the pop / imap host? this sounds like a network
connection problem and not a fetchmail problem to me.
robert
Matt Garman schrieb:
>
> Fetchmail suddenly stopped working for me, and I don't understand why. When I
> issue the command "fetchmail -v" I get the following:
>
> fetchmail: 5.2.3 querying ews.uiuc.edu (protocol IMAP) at \
> Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:37:24 -0600 (CST)
> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from ews.uiuc.edu
> fetchmail: Query status=2
> fetchmail: normal termination, status 2
>
> I read in the FAQ about reducing mru and mtu values in my ppp options file. I
> did that and I still get the same error.
>
> My ~/.fetchmailrc looks like the following:
>
> poll ews.uiuc.edu
> proto IMAP
> user <my username>
> pass <my password>
> fetchall
> flush
>
> I also tried changing the protocol to POP3, no luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
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> "I was just reading the interview with Korn in _Guitar_World_, and one of
> the guitarists said they don't play guitar solos because they've been
> done. Well, I guess that's true if you stick with what's been done.
> But you have to look beyond that; there's a lot more left to say on the
> guitar." -- Warren Haynes of Gov't Mule
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: With ppp-howto, serial howto, I still can't connect 2 pc with direct
cable.Why?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:18:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:55:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> >Since I am a newbie. I did not do other things.
> >However, I can't found any sigh of PPP working.
> >Using ifconfig I found nothing on PC2 except L0
> >on PC1 there is only L0 and ethernet card interface.
> >I can't ping each other too.
> >Can any one give me a guidance. I am totally in a mess!
> >Thanks!
> >(By the way, I have spare NIC , but I want to try PPP in this
> >environment..)
>
> I've had a look at the Serial HOWTO, and as I suspected, you
> actually need to use a command or program to initiate the
> connection (as you have been doing with Minicom).
>
> The HOWTO suggests things like a program called Screen, I've
> heard about this package before, it's a way of giving you access
> to multple sessions.
>
> Also have a look at the man poge for 'login', it seems that you
> might not need any extra software.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Dear Sir:
I use search engine to find program named "Screen", but I can't find
it. At the same time, I want to configure the network manually, so I
can understand more about the linux system. If I use a full-automated
program, maybe I won't know what is happen.
My network still doesn't work. The error message when I type:
ifconfig ppp0 up
the system will tell me:
PPP0 not active
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device not configured.
Can u tell me what's wrong?
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Park)
Subject: Re: best way to copy a hd?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:56:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In article <8b20nq$3eo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: > hello folks,
: > I've got a linux system on a 5GB partition on /dev/hda1 and I want to
: > move it to a brand new 20GB disk /dev/hdb1.. i've got a empty, formatted
: > fs on it, but I am not sure the best way to move my system over intact..
: > searching the web and dejanews, I have found some suggestions:
: > tar -cvpf - / | (cd /mnt/newdisk; tar -xvpf - )
: > Will this work? how will it handle special files (/dev, /proc)? and what
: > will it do when it hits /mnt/newdisk?? I am suspicious of this..
: > dd -if=/dev/hda1 -of=/dev/hdb1
: > This looks promising, but will it still work since hdb1 is a much larger
: > partition with different geometry? I read somewhere that the source and
: > destination need to be the same size to use dd, is this true?
: > cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/hdb1
: > it can't be this easy...
: > Thanks for any help!
: > joel
: >
: >
: > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: > Before you buy.
: Format the new partition and mount it at /mnt then run this script.
: #!/bin/sh
: # Create a complete backup of / on /mnt
: cp -p /* /mnt
: mkdir /mnt/cdr /mnt/cdrom /mnt/mnt /mnt/proc /mnt/tmp
: chmod 1777 /mnt/tmp
: mkdir /mnt/bin /mnt/boot /mnt/dev /mnt/etc /mnt/home /mnt/lib /mnt/opt\
: /mnt/root /mnt/sbin /mnt/usr /mnt/var
: (cd /bin && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/bin && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /boot && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/boot && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /dev && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/dev && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /etc && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/etc && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /home && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/home && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /lib && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/lib && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /opt && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/opt && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /root && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/root && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /sbin && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/sbin && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /usr && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/usr && tar xvfp -)
: (cd /var && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/var && tar xvfp -)
: Make sure that gets all your directories. Then edit /mnt/etc/fstab and
: replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1 for the root partition.
: Now copy your kernel to a floppy. The kernel should be /vmlinuz
: or /boot/vmlinuz.
: cat /vmlinuz > /dev/fd0
: Make the kernel floppy point to the new root device.
: rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdb1
: This kernel floppy should now boot you to your new partition. Then edit
: /etc/lilo.conf, replacing /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1 for the location of
: the root partition and run "lilo" from the command prompt.
Or, use
cp -ax / /mnt
where '-a' is archive copy, and '-x' prevents travelling down different
filesystem. Then, edit 'lilo.conf' and update LILO on the new harddisk,
after setting /mnt as the new "root" directory
chroot /mnt
vi /etc/lilo.conf (/dev/hda* -> /dev/hdb*)
lilo
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