Linux-Misc Digest #910, Volume #19               Tue, 20 Apr 99 11:13:17 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Oracle8i for Linux:  Anyone recieved their CD yet? (Bruce Ritchie)
  Re: small linuc on a 386i with 6meg RAM, 8 meg harddisc and tcp/ip networking 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: What if DNS gets down for a long time? (Azfar Kazmi)
  Re: This is not an oppinion - just an interesting fact. (Roberto Alsina)
  GNOME, kde and kppp ("M.V. Ramana")
  Development guide for HP CRet & PhotoRetII (Anders Staehr)
  Re: Old version of linux? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  Re: Old version of linux? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  Re: Problems compiling the Kernel ("Mark Levis")
  Re: Old version of linux? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  can't boot to win95 anymore (jtl)
  Re: saving program state with core files (Robert Wuest)
  Re: Samba and Windows98 ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  Re: Applixware Office vs StarOffice (Ed Hurst)
  Re: gcc problems (Matthew Slowe)
  mySQL : how to feed with data ? (Mihaly GYULAI)
  Re: Citizen Swift 240 Printer (mist)
  Re: Any RealAudio G2 compatible players out there? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: X gone dead :( ("Alan Davies")
  Re: Trouble with SB128PCI kernel 2.2.5/2.0.36. Request help. (Gerry Singh)
  Re: bw-qcam driver ("Kertis A. Henderson")
  glibc2 on slackware 3.6 (Sasa Ostrouska)
  Re: Running as root? ("Guus Z." <"(remove this but dont send me)
  Re: GNOME, kde and kppp ("David T. McKEe")
  Re: How to change GMT to EST (Villy Kruse)
  ac time warp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Old version of linux? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  Printer accounting on Linux??? ("John Cardoso")

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From: Bruce Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux:  Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:12:09 +0000

Phillip W Ross wrote:
> 
> In article <01be89ee$6008e510$24921e18@box1>, Lesser wrote:
> >I haven't gotten mine yet.  I was wondering if anyone else has though.
>         Not me, I'm still waiting too.
> 
> --
> Phillip Ross
> Financial Information Systems
> Application Support Services


I've received mine a week ago....

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Subject: Re: small linuc on a 386i with 6meg RAM, 8 meg harddisc and tcp/ip networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:16:34 GMT

According to SSG Berlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> i have only an 386i with 6 meg RAM and 8 meg harddisc. I �want use this
> hardware for tcp/ip networking with an wavelan pcmcia card.

Is that an _8_ meg disk or an _80_ meg disk?  You could set up a
router with 8 megs of disk (heck, you can do that from a floppy if you
have some more ram and don't need to swap) but that's about it.

If you want to use it for something other than an "embedded system"
you really need a minimum of about 60 megs of disk.

-p.


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From: Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What if DNS gets down for a long time?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:14:14 GMT

Thanks. Yes, I am going to get that book. I just wanted to get an idea.

--
Azfar Kazmi

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Bruce Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It depends on your dns setup.
>
> Eg. after the serial number in your dns file (/var/named/db.whatever for
> example) is a line like :
>
> 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours
> 3600  ; Retry after 1 hour
> 604800        ; Expire after 1 week
>
> These affect the dns caching and retry times for dns clients. For more
> extended information, O'Reilly has a pretty good book on DNS
> (www.ora.com)

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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This is not an oppinion - just an interesting fact.
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:25:14 GMT

In article <7fd0i2$b3q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You cant be serious -- kde running in NT -- i really dont belive it

It is theoretically possible, if not really too practical.

You would need:

Cygnus' cygwin package and tools.
The X consortium's X client libraries.
Qt for X sources
KDE sources
A X server for windows which supports the shape extension (if you want to
display locally, only)

A hell of a lot of disk space and patience :-)

--
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:33:04 -0500
From: "M.V. Ramana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: GNOME, kde and kppp

Hi,

I just installed GNOME 1.0 on my laptop (RH 5.2). Gnome seems to be an
awesome desktop (http://www.gnome.org). I am now considering unistalling
kde 1.0, but would like to keep kppp. What files/folders do I need to
keep for kppp to work (I have all the kde files in /home/opt, which is
linked to /opt/kde. If I keep the link, then kppp work under gnome, but
if I remove the link, and run kppp executable from a different
directory, it seems to dial, but not communicate with the ISP's modem).

I know the manual way of setting up an ISP connection and have used
it in past, but I'd prefer using kppp-like client (it makes ISP hookup a
piece of cake!).

Will appreciate any pointers.

Thanks!

Ram

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:50:17 +0200
From: Anders Staehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.drivers,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Development guide for HP CRet & PhotoRetII

Has anyone tried to develop a driver for the HP DeskJet 890, 1100 or
1120 printers utilizing the HP proprietary CRet or PhotoRetII mode, and
where did you find the necessary information?
We have the "HP DeskJet 1120C Software Developer's PCL guide", the "HP
DeskJet 1100C Software Developer's Guide for Windows" and the "HP
DeskJet 1100C Software Developer's PCL Guide", but they are of little
help (if you want the best print quality from these printers!), as HP
says they have an internal "PCL encyclopedia" which is really meant for
HP internal use only! Has anyone found that one on the Net?

thanks, Anders

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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old version of linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:33:21 -0500

You can get a new CD of any dist for $1.99 from www.lsl.com

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matthew King wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
>
>> Why do you want an old version of Linux?  Why not any modern "non-rpm"
>> version of linux.  I can think of two off hand:
>
>If they're non-rpm, that's fine. I would prefer an older one because I
>cannot spend hours online and the CD would not cost so much.
>
>>
>>     Slackware would be the first choice and Debian would be the second
>> (because it uses its own proprietary dpkg packing system).
>
>In that case, preferably not debian.
>
>>
>> Tom Veldhouse
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
>Matthew King
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old version of linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:34:23 -0500

Yes, but you only NEED tar to use it.  The others you have to use the
package managers.  With Slackware you can use standard tools.

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

brian moore wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:20:35 +0100,
> Matthew King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
>>
>> > Why do you want an old version of Linux?  Why not any modern "non-rpm"
>> > version of linux.  I can think of two off hand:
>>
>> If they're non-rpm, that's fine. I would prefer an older one because I
>> cannot spend hours online and the CD would not cost so much.
>
>You do know that you can buy the latest and greatest Linux CD's from
>places like Cheapbytes for $2 or so.
>
>> >     Slackware would be the first choice and Debian would be the second
>> > (because it uses its own proprietary dpkg packing system).
>>
>> In that case, preferably not debian.
>
>Well, then, Slack has package management, too, just contained in tgz
>files (there are shell scripts to add and delete the package in each
>tarball).
>
>What's this aversion to packaging?  Just because something has packages
>doesn't mean you need to download them all the time.
>
>--
>Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
>      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
>      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary
chain."
>      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi
Postmaster



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From: "Mark Levis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Problems compiling the Kernel
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:08:40 -0400

The extension? Try a file compare to see what the differences are
we can not guess.

Shiping Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| Hello,
|
| Can anyone tell me what difference between
| Makefile and Makefile.in?
|
| Thank you in advance!
| --
| Shiping Chen
| Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old version of linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:18 -0500

I call dpkg proprietary because it is ONLY used with Debian.  I guess it is
not proprietary in the sense that it can be used with any distribution,
however, it isn't, it is only used with Debian.  RPM is used with at least
four distributions; RedHat (and decendents), SUSE, Caldera and TurboLinux.
I wasn't trying to knock Debian.  I was just stating that Slackware requires
no package manager to install software.  You can use pkgtool if you like,
but you only need standard tools like tar.  Slackware packages are nothing
but tarballs with a script/configuration file in it.

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

D. Vrabel wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Matthew King wrote:
>
>> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
>>
>> > Why do you want an old version of Linux?  Why not any modern "non-rpm"
>> > version of linux.  I can think of two off hand:
>>
>> If they're non-rpm, that's fine. I would prefer an older one because I
>> cannot spend hours online and the CD would not cost so much.
>>
>> >
>> >     Slackware would be the first choice and Debian would be the second
>> > (because it uses its own proprietary dpkg packing system).
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^
>I fail to see how a free software application like dpkg and its open
>package format can be proprietary.  Would you call rpm proprietary?
>
>David
>--
>David Vrabel
>Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
>



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From: jtl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't boot to win95 anymore
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:46:40 +0300

Hi there !

Small description of problem:
Pentium 166, 4,3 GB quantum:
/dev/hda1   win95 (fat32)
/dev/hda2   linux root
/dev/hda3   linux swap

Lilo was installed to root partition and i "accidently" re-installed
win95 (recovery installation), which obviously wanted to modify my MBR.
After that i wasn't naturally able to boot linux or windows. Booted from
win95 boot floppy, couldn't access my c:, tried fdisk /mbr, which didn't
help. Fdisks in windows and linux show partitions ok.
Can't mount /dev/hda1 in linux (kernel 2.2.3) although it was possible
before windows recovery installation. Tried to restore the original mbr
from linux /boot directory with dd, no help. Is my fat32 totally
corrupted ??  Any solutions ??

Thanks, jtl

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From: Robert Wuest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: saving program state with core files
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:31:03 +0000

dementen wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to be able to save the state of a program (like a game for
> example) during its running and after to be able to load this state to
> continue the process at another time.
> 
> I've tried with xxgdb 'name of the program' and then interrupting the
> execution but I don't know how to write the core file when the process
> is interrupted (it's not a beautiful way of doing what I want but it
> should be ok).
> 
> Thanks for the answer or for another idea.
> 
> Sebastien de Menten
> 
> PS : reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think trying to use core files to save a program's state is a real bad
idea.

I don't know how to resume from a dumped core file, but making one is
real easy :-)

        char c;
        c=*(char*)0;

will do it.

Robert

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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba and Windows98
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:42:11 -0500

I had the same problem with samba-2.0.2 and I was never able to get around
the problem.  Just reporting the problem as yet another statistic.

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<7ffjqo$fvn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi everybody!
>
>I have some samba shares that work fine with Windows95. I've also a
Windows98
>machine that I want to give access to those shares, but I can't I always.
It
>always says that the password is incorrect. But if I logon from a Win95 it
all
>works correctly. My configuration for that share is as follows:
>
>[myshare]
>        read only =  no
>        writable = yes
>        path = /usr/local/mysql/var/ine
>        max connections = 10
>        revalidate = yes
>        preserve case = yes
>        short preserve case = yes
>
>        valid users = joaquim,pgr
>
>        force user = root
>        force group = root
>        create mask =0660
>
>
>
>Doesn't samba work with Windows98?
>Any ideas?
>Many thanks.
>
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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Applixware Office vs StarOffice
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:16:06 -0500

    Mihaly is right on the memory usage. I am currently using both, on an
i586/133 with 64MB RAM and a separate 120MB swap drive, along side a huge
6.4GB main. Star Office 5.0 is kinda slow on my machine. and the files are
huge. On the other hand, I can't reacall any features in MS Office that
aren't duplicated (more or less) by Star Office. Further, Star Office adds
drag-n-drop file management.
    The reason I still use Applix is that it is simpler, faster, and best
of all: it allows you to open multiple windows and move them to other
parts of your virtual desktop. It compares favorably with MS Works, for
the most part.
    There are several projects in or near beta release that promise to
give both good competition. While Corel promises to release the rest of
their Corel Office (Paradox and Quattro, perhaps Draw), they appear to
have done a very shoddy job of porting Word Perfect to Linux. Most of the
people I've talked to don't trust Corel to have good intentions.


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From: Matthew Slowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc problems
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:45:59 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Z. Maze
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>MS> To Reply by email, click on the mailto link below...
>
>Not everybody uses a mail reader where "click" has any meaning.  This
>would be far more useful if it were in a From: or Reply-To: header.
>

So far, I haven't had spam for weeks!! Therefore, it stays. :)

-- 
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From: Mihaly GYULAI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mySQL : how to feed with data ?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:04:29 GMT

 I installed mySQL, and I have a lot of 'Tab separated' data in many
files. How can I put these data into mySQL ?
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/

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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Citizen Swift 240 Printer
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:15:17 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

nails <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>I have the above dot matrix printer which does not appear to be in the
>list of printers on configuration!
>does this mean i cannot print at all or is there a way round this
>problem??

Use the driver for the BJ200 (b&w) or one of the BJC 400 or something
for colour.  I don't use colour so I don't know which one exactly.

>Please feel free to e-mail me direct if you can help!!

PITN, RITN.
-- 
Mist.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any RealAudio G2 compatible players out there?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:51:04 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Linuts wrote:
> I'm trying to make the switch from Win95 to Linux.
>
> I do like to listen to certain RealAudio sites, however, and the
> player available for Linux on the Real Audio website is only version
> 5.  Unfortunately, some of the sites seem to be made specifically for
> the new G2 player format.
>
> Are there any players out there that can recognize the G2 format?
>

I emailled Real about G2 on Unix in general and got this reply..

At this time, we do not plan on producing "native" versions of our Player Plus
software for other platforms than Windows95, Windows NT, and PowerMac

... which I thought was a bit depressing. So I would be intreseted in this too

mal

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From: "Alan Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X gone dead :(
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:05:00 +0100

It's an AGP card.  The NIC is a PCI card, as is the sound card (not used)
and the modem is an ISA card (also not used).  Unfortunately I have no idea
of how to resolve conflicts in Linux :o(


Al


Steven W. Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sounds like an IRQ conflict...  When booting the PC, hit the pause
> button when the data comes on screen that shows the PCI assignments and
> check for conflict. Is the Velocity an AGP card? Try switching the order
> that IRQ's are assigned (ie: AGP/PCI to PCI/AGP). As a last resort, you
> could manually assign IRQ's to the PCI slots! Good Luck
>
>
> --
> Steven W. Laird Computer power to the People!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Down with Cybercrud!
> Kennewick, WA Ted Nelson -- 1974



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From: Gerry Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Trouble with SB128PCI kernel 2.2.5/2.0.36. Request help.
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:23:21 GMT



I've got **exactly** the same problem you do - with a different motherboard
though. Have you been able to resolve this?


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> I'm having trouble with my SB128PCI sound card in the 2.2.5 kernel (and
> 2.0.36 kernel).
>
> I have successfully compiled the 2.2.5 kernel with the Eqsonic ES1370
> Audio PCI support.(not a module)
> (sndconfig recognizes my card as Eqsonic for some reason)
> I can hear the gnome and enlightenment sounds. But, I can't play audio
> from my cd
> I start gtcd, which works ok upto the point where it gets the cd info
> from CDDB.
> The CDROM even flashes, assuring me that gtcd is reading from the drive.
> But I don't get the actual sound on my speakers. I've checked the
> hardware connections both internally (wire from cd player to sound card)
> and externally (speaker plug, etc.). I've made sure none of the
> inputs/outputs in the CD mixer are muted.
>
> I've also tried cat /dev/sndstat. I get the error:
> cat: /dev/sndstat: Operation not supported by device

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From: "Kertis A. Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bw-qcam driver
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:11:08 -0400

Edwin Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:58:26 -0400, Kertis A. Henderson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >I have compiled the bw-qcam module for kernel 2.2.5, and it seems to be
> >working.  Is there any information about this driver?  For instance, do
> >any programs use it?  I didn't find any useful information with the
> >kernel.
>
> Look at www.cs.virginia.edu/~patrick/quickcam

Thanks, but none of the software on this page uses the driver that comes
with 2.2.5.

-- 

Kertis Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glibc2 on slackware 3.6
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:00:27 +0200

Hi to everybody !
                                    I want to upgrade mz slack 3.6 to
glibc2 when i run ./configure i get the folloving error:

checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking whether /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1/bin/as is GNU as... yes
checking whether /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1/bin/ld is GNU ld... yes
checking for mig... mig
checking whether ranlib is necessary... no
checking LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable... contains current directory
configure: error:
*** LD_LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't contain the current directory when
*** building glibc. Please change the environment variable
*** and run configure again.

I dont know why this happens. if I issue the command :
 echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
i get the following output
/usr/local/Mesa/lib:/usr/local/kde/lib:/usr/local/qt/lib:/usr/local/Mesa/lib:/usr/local/kde/lib:/usr/local/qt/lib:

redos:/usr/src/glibc-2.1.1#

Can anybody help.
Thank you in advance
Sasa


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From: "Guus Z." <"(remove this but dont send me 
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:13:30 +0200


Tony,

I don't understand why you want to run anything as root.
Root is the administratrator annex super user account that is
necessary to make a multi-user operating system work.

Log in as root, create our own account 'me' with adduser
log out as root, log in as 'me', start x and your up and running.

You don't want to do anything as root other than maintain
your system.

Read the man pages. Buy a book on Linux.

One request: don't take this discussion out of the newsgroup.

Ciao,
Guus.

P.S. You will need to tailor the scripts to suit your need.





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks for the scripts. I'm not home right now where
  I can try them out..seems like i can modify the scripts to start other
programs too that way. You say "Beware of the security implications" but
this IS more
  secure than running programs as root I take it...

  Thanks!

  -Tony

  > Below you will find two little scripts. Both start with #!/bin/sh
  >
  > The first one I call 'xuser' and I use it to start an xterm in another
  > account
  > like this:
  >     % xuser root
  >
  > The second one starts netscape news in a different account, named
xnews.
  >
  > Since netscape takes a while to start, the window in which the xserver
  > is
  > open may be too short. You may make the window bigger. Or, when you
  > are not on a network, simply open your xserver on startup with '% xhost

  > -'
  > Beware of the security implications.
  >
  > You can cut and paste the scripts into your account, say in
  > $HOME/bin/xuser
  > then do a 'chmod 755 $HOME/bin/xuser' to make the script executable.
  >
  >
  > #!/bin/sh
  >
  > NAME=$1
  >
  > # the default shell
  > SHELL='bash'
  >
  > if [ $NAME = root ]; then
  >   # root likes zsh
  >   SHELL='zsh -l'
  > fi
  >
  > #
  > #  Start a shell in an xterm as $NAME
  > #  -- Security is real sloppy, here.
  > #  -- We simply open the X-server for the duration and close it
  > afterwards.
  > #  -- Regardless of previous settings. That is the reason this script
  > #  -- runs with -x, to make sure I know what's going on
  > #
  > set -x
  > xhost +127.0.0.1
  > su - $NAME -c "spawn xterm -display :0.0 -T $NAME -n $NAME -e $SHELL"
&&
  > sleep 1
  > xhost -127.0.0.1
  >
  > # --- end of script xuser ---
  >
  >
  > #!/bin/sh
  >
  > xhost +127.0.0.1
  > sleep 2
  > su - xnews -c "spawn /usr/local/netscape/netscape \
  >                 -no-about-splash -mail -display :0.0 \
  >                 -geometry 850x700 \
  >                 -xrm 'netscape*background:"$COLOR_XNEWS_BG"' \
  >                 -xrm 'netscape*foreground:"$COLOR_XNEWS_FG"' \
  >                     " && sleep 5
  > xhost -127.0.0.1
  >
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  >
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  > When you reply to me personally please remove
  >  the 'no spam' bit from my address.
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From: "David T. McKEe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: GNOME, kde and kppp
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:13:04 -0400



"M.V. Ramana" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just installed GNOME 1.0 on my laptop (RH 5.2). Gnome seems to be an
> awesome desktop (http://www.gnome.org). I am now considering unistalling
> kde 1.0, ...

Hi,

I don't have an answer to your question, but I would really like to know
your opinion on which of the two desktops you like the best and why.  I have
looked at both and they both look really good.  I really like the fact that
KDE utilizes standards such as corba, but gnome looks more polished.  I may
just get both, but any info you have would definitely help...

--
There is nothing so profane as viewing nothing sacred,
and nothing so sacred as it cannot be looked into...
--David T. McKee



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: How to change GMT to EST
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:54:54 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Granroth  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"[...M...]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> This may be a simple question but how do I change my system time
>> from saying GMT to saying EST?  I can't figure it out using the "date"
>> command.
>
>tzconfig


tzconfig?  no such command.  Not tru, though, if you have the right
distribution, and as this is still a secret we can't help much.  A presume
slackware has tzconfig, redhat doesn't but it has timeconfig instead.



Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ac time warp
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:17:59 GMT

I am running redhat linux 5.2 and have a problem with the ac command.
Every time I try and find the usage of a user the result is total 0.0 hours.

When I run the command:
ac -p username --complain

I receive the following errors:
/var/log/wtmp:1: problem:time warp(Thu Jan 1 10:00:00 1970 -> Tue Apr 13
16:49:31 1999)
/var/log/wtmp:3: problem: missing login record for `ttyp1`
/var/log/wtmp:4: problem: missing login record for `tty1`

.. in here about 10 similar error messages ..

    total 0.00

Other commands all come up with total hours being 0.00 for valid users that I
know have been logged in for some time.

I deleted the /var/log/wtmp file and then touched it again to create a fresh
file but came up with the similar messages. Am I using ac incorrectly or is my
system writing to the wtmp file in an incorrect format? I have read the man
pages but I am not sure how to resolve the time warp or the missing tyy
problems.

Cheers Grant

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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old version of linux?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:53:29 -0500

I wasn't saying that, but if you need to get into a package for some reason,
you need RPM or DPKG to deal with it.  With Slackware, you only need TAR.
Thus you can use a package from Slackware on any dist without the trouble
associated with the other packaging methods.

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

William Burrow wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:34:23 -0500,
>Thomas T. Veldhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Yes, but you only NEED tar to use it.  The others you have to use the
>>package managers.  With Slackware you can use standard tools.
>
>Nothing forces you to use a package manager after the install.  After
you've
>got the system installed, just get a disk of Metalab archives and be happy.
>
>I'd recommend Slackware, its what I've been using for the past few years.
>
>There is a place in the UK that sells the cheap disks for a couple of
pounds,
>I'm sure.
>
>--
>William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
>Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
>                                                ~  ()>()



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From: "John Cardoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer accounting on Linux???
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:13:04 -0300

I need to monitor printer usage.
How can I do printer accounting on Linux?
Are there any printer accounting programs available?
Thanks
- John



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