Linux-Misc Digest #910, Volume #26 Wed, 24 Jan 01 19:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Booting with no console (Harry)
Re: [2.4.0] Yamaha OPL3-SAx No Sound when built into Kernel (Robert Wiegand)
make menuconfig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SNIFF/Windriver (Robert Canright)
Re: Need a Browser (Mike Castle)
Re: Need a Browser ("muzh")
Re: Need a Browser (Jan Schaumann)
HELP: Linux stepper motor control ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ? Set Min passwd len after disabling pam cracklib.so ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Booting with no console ("Peter T. Breuer")
Proftpd login problems (MONZ)
Re: Installing 2.4.0 kernel.. (Allin Cottrell)
Re: updatedb eating up RAM and doesn't free up (Allin Cottrell)
Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? (Allin Cottrell)
Re: [Q] keyboard dies after a while (Andreas Fuchs)
Re: Need a Browser (Roger Blake)
Re: Booting with no console
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:10:20 +0000
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:13:40 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
>> keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
>> hda: WDC WD307AA-00BAA0, ATA DISK drive
>>
>> How could I misinterpret this?
>>
>> Allen
>
>
>The messages you get are not "ERROR" messages .
>They are "WARNING" messages , indicative of some problem, but one that does
>NOT impede the proper functioning of a Linux kernel .
>That is where you are misinterpretting it .
>
>There are other messages in my logs about the pci ide controller not being
>100% native and such. But since my hard disk spins, the kernel file is
>loaded, and more importantly, the init scripts are executed after kernel
>boot, I have no cause to worry.
>
>So don't sweat the small stuff, set your bios to halt on NO errors, and
>proceed .
>
>
>
>joseph
Error messages or not, they're still a pain in the arse that slow down
the boot process. The original question was can they be stopped,
either with kernel compilation options or otherwise? But nobody seems
to have addressed that yet. It's more of a discussion on how much it
bothers each individual... ;o)
Harry
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [2.4.0] Yamaha OPL3-SAx No Sound when built into Kernel
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:43:22 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trenton Adams wrote:
> When building support for this card into the kernel, I am getting no sound.
> I have sent the correct kernel commands on startup. But the card just seems
> to not initialize (you know the click/crack sound you get when it starts
> up). According to dmesg, the systems is recognizing the card without
> error. Any ideas on how to get it to work? Or possibly some websites with
> ideas?
I have heard of other people having problems when sound is built
into the kernal. I don't know why.
Try building it as a module.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: make menuconfig
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:44:18 +0100
I installed the kernel in Easy Linux and in
GoLinux but >>make menuconfig<< does not work
in /usr/src/linux. Do I have to install further
packages?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Canright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SNIFF/Windriver
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:40:19 GMT
A company called TakeFive created a product called SNIFF that is now
sold by Windriver. This SNIFF or SNIFF+ product has some very
nice code navigation features. Does anyone know of an open source
product for code navigation that is similar to SNIFF? (Preferably one
that runs on Linux or Solaris.) If there is a more appropriate news
group for this question, please enlighten me.
Thanks, Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Castle)
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:37:49 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jon Rook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a good browser.
I use lynx for 90% of my web browsing.
For another 9%, wget.
For 0.9%, NS.
for the last 0.1%, IE
mrc
--
Mike Castle Life is like a clock: You can work constantly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and be right all the time, or not work at all
www.netcom.com/~dalgoda/ and be right at least twice a day. -- mrc
We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan. -- Watchmen
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:59:39 +1300
You can download/upload files with KFM/Konqueror by drag-and-drop --
open the local and remote directories in different windows then drag and
drop files between them.
Recently, the keys of "Jon Rook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 's computer
randomly danced and produced <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
> I installed Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop2.4 recently and Netscape was
> included in the distribution. I've noticed that there are many web
> sites out there that cause this version of Netscape to lock-up. I've
> tried using the KDE File Manager (KFM) and that seems more robust, but I
> haven't been able to figure out how download a file from the web with
> this 'browser'. Today I downloaded a binary of the Mosaic browser. But
> in reading the documentation it seems that development on that browser
> was halted back in 1997 and I wonder if this browser will not have
> problems with some sites also. Can anyone recommend a good browser.
>
> Thanks, Jon
>
>
--
Never trust a man in a suit
cll
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:04:48 GMT
* Mike Castle wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jon Rook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Can anyone recommend a good browser.
>
> I use lynx for 90% of my web browsing.
> For another 9%, wget.
> For 0.9%, NS.
> for the last 0.1%, IE
Which OS do you use that you can use wget, lynx AND IE? (Does wget run under
cygwin?)
I use links (http://links.sourceforge.net) for most of my every-day browsing.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
I AM NOT MY LONG-LOST TWIN
I AM NOT MY LONG-LOST TWIN
Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 4F03
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: HELP: Linux stepper motor control
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:57:03 GMT
I have just purchased a [used] 3 axis stage with stepper motors.
Z-axis (vertical axis) uses a ball-screw, X and Y axes use finer pitched
standard screws. I only have the stage and the three stepper motors. I
do not have any kind of controller, amp, ...
I'm a complete newbie to doing hardware and control systems, but I'm a
seasoned coder and I'm eager to learn.
I'd like to be able to drive this thing off of my Linux box.
Eventually, I'd like to be able to attach a dremmel or other small
cutting tool for a mini-CNC and I'd also like to be able to use the
stage as a high precision optical table for testing telescope mirrors
and optics.
I'm looking for help in getting the necessary hardware and software to
get this thing going.
Thanks.
-Ralph
rpseguin AT yahoo DOT com
Here's the specs of the motors that I've been able to get off of the
motors:
Z-axis (vertical) (ball screw)
============
Superior Electric
Bristol, CT
Slo syn synchronous stepper motor
Type M061-FD-30
200 steps/revolution
11.8V DC
Spec BM101025
X and Y axes: (standard, fine pitch screws)
==========
Dana Rapidsyn (Dana/Rapidsyn Industrial?)
Santa Fe Springs, CA
5.1V 1.0A
Model 23D-6102A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ? Set Min passwd len after disabling pam cracklib.so
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:05:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > We are running RH 6.2. I cannot seem to get a minimum password
length
> > setting to work after disabling the pam cracklib.so. I disabled
> > cracklib.so by removing the password
> > required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 line
> > in /etc/pam.d/passwd and taking out the use_authtok from the
password
> > required pam_pwdb.so line in the same file.
> >
> > The only place I know to check for this setting is in
> > the /etc/login.defs file. I have the setting for PASS_MIN_LEN in
> > login.defs set to 5, but when I log in as a non-root user I can
still
> > set a password of any length even less than 5. When cracklib.so is
> > enabled in pam.d/passwd the minimum length is enforced via cracklib
(I
> > think that is right and the default is 6 char). The server must be
> > ignoring login.defs for some reason(unless that value isn't used in
the
> > manner I think).
> >
> > Does anybody have any suggestions to accomplish "weak" passwords
with a
> > minimum length?. Is there somewhere else the minimum password
length
> > is set? Hopefully these aren't newbie questions. If they are, I
> > apologize and humbly ask for your kindness(and answers). If more
info
> > is required please reply to this message.
> >
> > By the way, we will not have shell accounts for end users on the
> > system, therefore we don't mind having the "weaker" passwords. If
our
> > end users want a personal "weak" password, then it is their choice
to
> > set one.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your response!
> > Neil Johnson
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
>
> I helped someone set up something like this, for the same sorts
> of reasons you give. This was with a previous version of PAM and
> cracklib so this info may be outdated.
>
> The problem one has that setting the minimum password length to 6
> chars:
>
> password required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
> minlen=7
>
> does not disable rather ferocious password checking (which is
> good!) But this can be gotten around by replacing cracklib's
> dictionary with just a few words. For example, say the file
> "/tmp/words" had just a few words:
>
> roses
> apple
> and
>
> You then (used to) run:
>
> /usr/sbin/create-cracklib-dict /tmp/words
>
> to create cracklib_dict.hwm/.pwd/.pwi
>
> This utility seems to have disappeared from recent cracklib
> packages (.rpm's, I'm on RH) However, I'm sure it would not be
> much of a hunt to find it or something very much like it.
>
> HTH. Bob L.
> --
> Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Thanks Robert!!!
I'll check into it. It sounds like this is exactly the guidance I
needed!
Thanks again!
Neil Johnson
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:57:41 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:13:40 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Error messages or not, they're still a pain in the arse that slow down
> the boot process. The original question was can they be stopped,
You're joking, aren't you? Printing messages on the screen doesn't
slow down the boot, and why would you care even if you did lose a few
milliseconds.
If you don't like them, compile them out of your kernel. But they
aren't in my kernel source. I searched.
Peter
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From: MONZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Proftpd login problems
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:28:40 +0100
It's proftpd-1.2.0pre10, source version. I can start it, but not log in.
I've created /etc/pam.d/ftp :
auth required /lib/security/pam_listfile.so item=user
sense=deny file=
auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
account required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
session required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
Hmm, this 'auth ... file='; dunno if anything is needed after 'file='
here?
Currently not running it from inetd or tcp-wrapper, hense nothing in
inetd.conf .
/etc/proftpd.conf :
ServerName "Onscreen.zzz FTP Server"
#ServerType inetd
ServerType standalone
DefaultServer on
DefaultRoot /home/ftp
UseReverseDNS off
ServerIdent off
Port 21
Umask 022
AuthPAMAuthoritative On
PAMConfig ftp
DeferWelcome off
TimeoutLogin 120
TimeoutIdle 600
TimeoutNoTransfer 900
TimeoutStalled 3600
User ftp
Group ftp
AllowOverwrite on
RequireValidShell no
ScoreboardPath /var/run/proftpd
TransferLog /var/log/proftpd/xferlog.legacy
LogFormat default "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %s %b"
LogFormat auth ".%v [%P] %h %t \"%r\" %s"
LogFormat write "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %s %b"
<Global>
DisplayLogin welcome.msg
DisplayFirstChdir readme
AllowOverwrite yes
IdentLookups off
ExtendedLog /var/log/proftpd/access.log
ExtendedLog /var/log/proftpd/auth.log AUTH
#auth
</Global>
grep ftp /etc/group; grep ftp /etc/passwd
ftp:x:50:monz,ftp
ftp:x:14:50:FTP User:/home/ftp:
(Got password on user ftp).
ls -ld /home/ftp/
drwxrw-r-- 2 root ftp 4096 Jan 23 23:10 /home/ftp/
At login using ftp I get:
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
Login failed.
No control connection for command: No such file or directory
/var/log/proftpd/auth.log says:
UNKNOWN ftp [25/Jan/2001:00:04:50 +0100] "USER ftp" 331 -
Tried with other users; with/without changing User/Group in proftpd.conf
.
--
Regards,
Mogens Valentin
Networking - Security - Programming
Linux configuration and troubleshooting
http://www.danbbs.dk/~monz - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing 2.4.0 kernel..
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:53:00 -0500
Ish Rattan wrote:
> I have a strange problem. I am running RedHat-6.2 with 2.2.16-3 kernel.
> I down loaded the 2.4.0 kernel. It compiles (make bzlilo), the modules
> compile (make modules; make modules_install). The new kernel boots the
> machine correctly but modules are not accessible!!?
> This is the first time I have tried 2.4.0 kernel (others have worked..).
> Any pointers will be appreciated (outside wisecracks). The modprobe
> version is 2.3-pre1?
I suppose you didn't bother to read
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes.
For future reference, this is essential reading: it tells you what you
need to update, to have have a fighting chance of your new kernel
working
correctly. One essential component is modutils 2.4.0.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: updatedb eating up RAM and doesn't free up
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:02:46 -0500
SoohEph wrote:
>
> I have RH 7.0 and once a day it will run something called "updatedb"
> and spawn other little processes such as "slocate".
>
> Before "updatedb" runs I have plenty of memory left(about 50M free)
> and gradually from TOP I can see updatedb eating up memory and
> eventually the process takes up a max. of 30M !!
>
> That's OK but the BIG problem is that when the process finishes
> something is still taking up the 30M and won't release it until I
> reboot !!
Think about it. You really want most of your computer's memory
to sit there, empty, rather than retaining an image of the code
required for recently-run processes? Try the experiment of rebooting,
then starting netscape (record the time it takes to get going) then
stopping netscape, then starting it again (how long does it take to
get going?). And think.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:07:10 -0500
Flacco wrote:
>
> I seem to have no luck finding a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux. In
> particular, it must be good with frames and tables (so Mozilla's out).
>
> Any recommendations?
I believe there's something called bluefish. Not sure, because emacs
with HTML syntax highlighting seems better to me.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Fuchs)
Subject: Re: [Q] keyboard dies after a while
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:59:59 GMT
We have similar problems with some of our lab computers, Dell Gxa and Gx1. A BIOS
upgrade got us rid of the hassles.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:04:05 GMT
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:04:48 GMT, Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Which OS do you use that you can use wget, lynx AND IE? (Does wget run under
>cygwin?)
Well, lynx has a Win32 version available (don't know about wget). Another
option is to use Win4Lin to run Windoze as an application in order to have
access to IE.
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:05:55 -0500
Short of locating and commenting out the appropriate section in the source
code, you cannot eliminate the messages.
However, I don't see why you are unable to do that since the source code is
available.
One of the first places to try would be a keyboard.c , or any file with kbd
at the begining .
Look under /usr/src/linux ( which should be symbolically linked to the
source of your current kernel.
Wait, I seem to recall some option about keyboard support during kernel
compile.
do make menuconfig, and go through the options there.
hth
Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:13:40 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
> >> keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
> >> hda: WDC WD307AA-00BAA0, ATA DISK drive
> >>
> >> How could I misinterpret this?
> >>
> >> Allen
> >
> >
> >The messages you get are not "ERROR" messages .
> >They are "WARNING" messages , indicative of some problem, but one that
does
> >NOT impede the proper functioning of a Linux kernel .
> >That is where you are misinterpretting it .
> >
> >There are other messages in my logs about the pci ide controller not
being
> >100% native and such. But since my hard disk spins, the kernel file is
> >loaded, and more importantly, the init scripts are executed after kernel
> >boot, I have no cause to worry.
> >
> >So don't sweat the small stuff, set your bios to halt on NO errors, and
> >proceed .
> >
> >
> >
> >joseph
>
>
> Error messages or not, they're still a pain in the arse that slow down
> the boot process. The original question was can they be stopped,
> either with kernel compilation options or otherwise? But nobody seems
> to have addressed that yet. It's more of a discussion on how much it
> bothers each individual... ;o)
>
> Harry
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