Linux-Misc Digest #912, Volume #19 Tue, 20 Apr 99 17:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux being user-friendly ("Csaba Raduly")
SCSI Lockup Question (Adaptec & Seagate) (Joe Radkowski)
Ensonic Soundscape Vivo Pnp Card (Edward A. Baron)
Re: Images (Gerald Willmann)
Re: How to change GMT to EST ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
jdk 1.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape subprocess diagnostics (root)
Re: NFS ("Anthony J. Gabrielson")
Re: EPS (jik-)
Linux Acting as a Backup Server (Chris Geddings)
Re: Samba and Windows98 (Andy Piper)
Re: Netscape 4.5 and WordPerfect 8 in True Colour (24bpp) (Andy Piper)
Re: Can Someone Please Explain To Me... ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Who deleted directory? (Greg Fruth)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (Alexander Viro)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet? (Jared Hecker)
Re: Report: NT 3.5x Faster Than Linux (**Nick Brown)
Re: imap (Branimir Dolicki)
passwd problem (Adrian Pfisterer)
passwd problem (Adrian Pfisterer)
Re: problems w/ tar (gus)
Re: Mounting windows NTFS drive (default)
Re: IE5 under Linux (jik-)
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From: "Csaba Raduly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux being user-friendly
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:38:09 +0100
Reply-To: "Csaba Raduly" <csaba dot raduly strudel sophos dot com>
Nathan Ranger wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hellraiser,
>
>I share your view somewhat. I think, in general, the User Friendly
linux
>conversion is about making it more commercially palatable. In other
>words, companies don't want to pay people $50K+ a year to manage
>systems, they want it to be done "easily" with windows. The linux
>community is trying to address that, however, in doing that, they might
>be destroying what linux really is: A very stable and flexable set of
>software tools. The user friendlyness trend is for people who want to
>use it but don't want to learn it but have money to *BUY* it. Its about
>profit.
>
>To try and get Linux to be more user friendly, IMHO, will wreck its
>stability.
That's silly. These aren't Windows programmers (like me :-)
User-friendly vs stable is an issue only if the developers don't have
sufficient brainpower to take care of both. (Motto: there's safety in
numbers...) It's only a matter of (many) man-months. We need sufficient
manpower or sufficient time to do it.
Back fresh from reading some of E.S.Raymond's writings, I'd say that
this is (one of) the next area of future projects for Linux hackers.
[snip]
>
>If the users want something stable and easy, let them run NT
>workstation.
No. Let them run Linux by making it easier for them. The more lusers use
Linux, the better. Some of them will evolve into gurus. Some of them may
recommend it to their boss.
Csaba
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Speed can kill ! Use Windows !
csaba dot raduly strudel sophos dot com
check out: www.sophos.com
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From: Joe Radkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SCSI Lockup Question (Adaptec & Seagate)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:16:54 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I have a PR440 (Providence) Dual PPro Motherboard. Currently
I only have 1 200 MHz process on it with 64 MBs RAM and on the harddrive
end a 9.1 Seagate Medalist SCSI harddrive. I was having random lockups
with the computer and I initally thought it was the processor then when
I went into the SCSI utility bios and did a harddisk check it locks the
computer up when it reaches a point between 40% and 65%. I have double
check termination on the harddrive and made sure the controllers
software controlled terminator was activated. I called up seagates'
automated help line and they suggested changing the way the terminator
gets its power from "It supplies its own" to "It gets it from the bus".
I still get a lockup. Any ideas whats going on here? (Please email if
possible)
Joe Radkowski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward A. Baron)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Ensonic Soundscape Vivo Pnp Card
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:47:35 GMT
I know someone out there knows how to do this.
I would like to simply be able to play CDs on my linux box
(running RH 5.2, kernel 2.2.5)
I have an Ensonic Soundscape Vivo Pnp Card
could someone a:) send me a copy of their isapnp.conf
file so I can make sure I have the irqs
set correctly
b:) send me a copy of their conf.modules
file so I can figure out the magic
aliases to get the proper drivers loaded.
c:) tell me what tool they use to play CDs and
how they adjust the volume.
Thanks, obviously, emailed replies are better, I'll post
a summary.
-ed baron ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Images
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:26:03 -0700
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Paul wrote:
> How do I view Jpeg images.
> I was told told to use something called xv but I can't find it in
> usr/x11r6/bin.
maybe you need to install xv (or xview - sorry I use xvscan so I can't
check). Otherwise netscape displays jpegs just fine but is admittedly
overkill.
> Also how do I make it work so that it opens up my files when double
> clicked.
you have to tell us what windowmanager and desktop you use. Under tkdesk
xv is the default when you double click on a jpeg - still need it
installed to work, of course
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to change GMT to EST
Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:59:31 -0400
"[...M...]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This may be a simple question but how do I change my system time
> from saying GMT to saying EST? I can't figure it out using the "date"
> command.
date -u will display time in GMT
also see tzselect (on my 5.2 Redhat system)
--
Tom Evans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: jdk 1.2
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:50:30 GMT
Hello
Has jdk 1.2 for Linux been released?
Regards,
Jimmy
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape subprocess diagnostics
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:05:51 -0500
Sorry, I wanted to trim this file but it seemed all the text was pertinent.
I'm having the same problem and I'm running SuSE 5.2, kernel 2.0.33,
XFree86 3.3.3.1 (I think, don't know how to check this one, I upgraded
last fall), Netscape 4.51, with FVWM2.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm also having the same problem... since I installed afterstep, licq,
> ->GKT+1.2.1<- and glib... I don't have gnome, i use netscape 4.07 and never
> had problem with it until now...
>
> JFB
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tim Macinta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm having the same problem, and I have been able to diagnose the
> > commonalities between the pages - they all contain Java. In fact, I can
> > get this problem to consistently occur when I visit ANY page with Java
> > and hit "Reload" a few times.
> >
> > A search on the web for "unexpected async reply" turned up a discussion
> > about gtk, so I'm curious, do you have Gnome installed and if so what
> > version? I have the most recent developers version installed and I'm
> > wondering if this is part of the problem.
> >
> > I'm really interested in getting to the bottom of this problem as I do a
> > lot of Java development and this sort of throws a monkeywrench in
> > things.
> >
> > "William W. Hart" wrote:
> > >
> > > I have problem that occurs in Netscape when I access certain web pages.
> > > I have not been able determine the commonalties between the web pages
> > > that are causing the problem. When I access certain web pages, mostly
> > > those web pages with some type of web cam on them (but not always), the
> > > page will load fine but after 30 seconds to a minute I will get a window
> > > poping up with the following message:
> > >
> > > Netscape: subprocess diagnostics (stdout/stderr)
> > >
> > > xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x5XXXX) This line is listed
> > > several times with XXXX incremented on each line.
> > >
> > > stderr diagnostics have been truncated
> > >
> > > By the time I click OK another window with the same error message opens
> > > up, and another, and another ...
> > >
> > > The only way to stop this is to kill -9 the Netscape process. I did not
> > > have this problem with Netscape 4.02 or initially after I upgraded to
> > > Netscape 4.5. This started happening about 6 week after I upgraded to
> > > Netscape 4.5. I am running Red Hat 5.2 and I have not modified the
> > > kernal. Does anyone have any ideas what is causing this and how I can
> > > fix it?
> > >
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From: "Anthony J. Gabrielson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:42:47 -0400
Sun makes one called Solistice Network Client. It also seems to require
nis to be running. I like it although I'm still trying to figure out
ypserv. Thats like $80 dollars. Humming birs makes one for $350 thats
just NFS called NFS Maestro. Xwinpro makes one that is around $120 that
just does NFS but will not import (at least I don't think it will). I
like the sun one - I wish I knew NIS - soon enough I will figure it out.
Hope that helps,
Anthony
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, martin wrote:
> Hallo,
> could someone help me with my small problem?
> I need to find some NFS client for Win 95/98/NT/2000 to conect to my Linux
> file server. I'd be glad, if this NFS client will be free of charge.
>
> Thanks for your help Martin Dvorak CZ
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:10:53 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EPS
Roland Latour wrote:
>
> jik- wrote:
> >
> > How do you create an Encapsulated postscript image? Neither XV nor GIMP
> > save that format.
>
> Slackware comes with ps2epsi: "...utility, based on Ghostscript, which
> takes as input a postscript file and generates a new output file
> which conforms to Adobe's Encapsulated Postscript Interchange or
> EPSI format." It's a shell script.
Hey, alright,...thanks...I have slackware.
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From: Chris Geddings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Acting as a Backup Server
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:18:55 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I am trying to use a linux box to act as a backup to another machine.
What I want to happen is if the other machine goes down, the Linux box
will pickup and provide smtp, ftp, and web services until a tech can
look at the primary server. I'm also going to be setting up the linux
box to page a tech as soon as it detects the main server has gone down.
What I'm wondering is if anyone has done this (I'm sure someone has) and
if so, if I can get little guidance on where to begin. Also, if anyone
knows of a package that handles dialing a pager that'd usefull as well.
Thankyou,
Chris Geddings
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba and Windows98
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:12:29 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> I have some samba shares that work fine with Windows95. I've also a Windows98
> machine that I want to give access to those shares, but I can't I always. It
> always says that the password is incorrect. But if I logon from a Win95 it all
> works correctly. My configuration for that share is as follows:
[snip]
> Doesn't samba work with Windows98?
> Any ideas?
I think (and I'm not sure, so don't flame me!) that Windows
98 negotiates encrypted passwords by default, like Windows
NT4 Service Pack 3 does. Read the file Encryption.txt that
comes with the Samba distribution, I think you need to set
up Samba to use encrypted passwords as well. It's not as
difficult as it may sound, I've managed it on our NT network
at work and it all works fine :-)
Hope this helps.
Andy
--
Andy Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 and WordPerfect 8 in True Colour (24bpp)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:13:20 +0000
jason wrote:
>
> Nope, it's a known problem, you're doing everything right. Netscape just
> looks like crap in 24bpp, and it's not your fault. :-) Try 16bpp or 32bpp.
I'm running it in 32bpp and it still looks like crap :-(
But then, I've become slightly resigned to it now.
Andy
--
Andy Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Someone Please Explain To Me...
Date: 20 Apr 1999 16:12:06 -0400
K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
K> What wrappers are?
In the general case, a wrapper is a program whose primary purpose is
to run another program, but does something useful to the program's
environment first.
K> I know that there are different kinds of it, for eg., the X
K> wrapper, the tcp wrapper and so on and I also know that it's used
K> for security reasons, but can someone please explain to me exactly
K> how it works?
These wrappers do two different things:
-- The standard X wrapper is run setuid root. It gets permission to
access the I/O ports the X server needs access to and then discards
root permissions and runs the real X server. So the X server runs
as an unpriviledged user, except that it has special permission to
poke at the video card.
-- The TCP wrapper looks at the IP address of some incoming
connection, and based on that and the hosts.allow/hosts.deny files,
either runs the real TCP server or denies the connection.
A simple wrapper script might run an X-based program on the local
display:
#!/bin/sh
DISPLAY=:0.0
export DISPLAY
$1 $@
...which sets the DISPLAY environment variable to point to the local X
display, and then runs whatever else was left on the command line.
(e.g. 'runlocal xterm -e top')
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Fruth)
Subject: Re: Who deleted directory?
Date: 20 Apr 1999 18:54:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Edward Vigmond wrote:
> >
> > You'll have to write a wrapper for rm as well since rm -r removes
> > directories.
>
> I actually thought of that while riding the bus home for the weekend, so I'm
> glad you pointed that out. :-)
For a bulletproof solution (tm), modify the rmdir(2) and unlink(2) system
calls to do your logging. (Well, to be truly bulletproff you'd have to
modify open(2) as well...)
"Use the Source, Luke."
Only with the power of the Source can you recall the hallowed days of the
Old Republic, before the Unix Wars, and before the rise of the Empire.
--
Gregory Fruth ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: 20 Apr 1999 14:58:01 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
>
>In comp.os.linux.misc,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>:Of course, you may want to know what the difference between the two
>:devices is. This should be documented somewhere,
>
>It should be in 'man 4 tty' and/or 'man 4 cua'. And in fact, on BSD,
>it is -- check it out.
It should, but the whole section 4 is in bad need of rewrite. For
instance, tty(4) is dated 1993. IOW, nobody touched the thing since *long*.
Yup, it should be done. For now the documentation in the kernel source is
much more reliable source (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt). While
we are at it - is there a list of assigned majors/minors for FreeBSD? (aside
of ls -l /dev, that is; e.g. man 4 ttyv doesn't do a thing on 3.0-STABLE box).
> Sorry 'bout that, Linuxfolk, but I guess
>you aren't expected to read documentation. :-)
Cheap shots are fun, aren't they? Said that, lack of clue wrt the
*very* basic things (a-la what devices are and WTF major/minor mean) on
both sides is, well, disturbing.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jared Hecker)
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.database.oracle
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux: Anyone recieved their CD yet?
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:27:04 GMT
I thought Oracle said they weren't mailing them out until next month.
Phillip W Ross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <01be89ee$6008e510$24921e18@box1>, Lesser wrote:
: >I haven't gotten mine yet. I was wondering if anyone else has though.
: Not me, I'm still waiting too.
: --
: Phillip Ross
: Financial Information Systems
: Application Support Services
--
Jared Hecker | HWA Inc. - Oracle architecture and Administration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ** serving NYC and New Jersey **
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Report: NT 3.5x Faster Than Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:25:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder when MS will find a way to make us poor NT victims pay for an
NT client license even if all we do is access SAMBA shares - presumably
by putting the license as a charge to use the redirector ?
brian moore wrote:
> What I find most amusing is that they leave out the cost of the NT
> 'solution'. Client licenses for NT are not cheap: they'd be paying a
> fortune for licenses on a machine getting the traffic they were
> generating. A wise purchaser would take the tens of thousands of
> dollars spent on NT client licenses and buy more Linux boxes for
> redundancy.
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branimir Dolicki)
Subject: Re: imap
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:24:53 GMT
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:02:27 -0700, NewsReader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I was wondering if there are any email clients for linux that uses IMAP to
>retrive mail?
>
>thanks...
>
>
Pine, Netscape, fetchmail ...
-- Branimir
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From: Adrian Pfisterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: passwd problem
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:34:48 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help!
I can't change my password.
I've got a spanking new RedHat 5.2 system. I had trouble adding
users using linuxconf; wouldn't allow me to set the password and
never added the account. So I edited /etc/passwd by hand and got
the account set up with no password. Now when I try to change is
I get this cryptic error:
New UNIX password: <whatever>
Retype new UNIX password: <whatever>
passwd: Critical error - immediate abort
It takes about 10 seconds after I enter the password the 2nd time
before the error comes up. If I enter an invalid password (too short,
in the dictionary, etc.) it tells me that very quickly so I think I'm
passing all the tests.
Any ideas???
Adrian Pfisterer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Adrian Pfisterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: passwd problem
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:36:25 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help!
I can't change my password.
I've got a spanking new RedHat 5.2 system. I had trouble adding
users using linuxconf; wouldn't allow me to set the password and
never added the account. So I edited /etc/passwd by hand and got
the account set up with no password. Now when I try to change is
I get this cryptic error:
New UNIX password: <whatever>
Retype new UNIX password: <whatever>
passwd: Critical error - immediate abort
It takes about 10 seconds after I enter the password the 2nd time
before the error comes up. If I enter an invalid password (too short,
in the dictionary, etc.) it tells me that very quickly so I think I'm
passing all the tests.
Any ideas???
Adrian Pfisterer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems w/ tar
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:50:25 +0100
tar -x expects input from the standard input.
YOu need to add the flag "f" which indicates that the next parameter is
the file to (un)tar.
So, you should have
tar -xf foo.tar
Or
tar -x < foo.tar
Or
cat foo.tar | tar -x
Or ....
But, you would probably find the "z" flag useful as well, which
indicates to tar to "preprocess" the archive with gzip. So, you could
have, in the first place, done:
tar -xzf foo.tar.gz
Finally, I always use verbose output. It tells you how things are going
... so, I use:
tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz
NOTE, in all the examples, the "f" (if needed) is the last flag. This is
essential for correct operation.
cheers
gus
P.S. Since you don't know tar, you are a very newbie ... Here is some
added help...
Experiment with "man" ;-)
man tar
will tell you all about tar.
Also, experiment with <http://www.dejanews.com> which will tell you more
than you ever want to know, and save you some flames in the newsgroups.
Dave wrote:
>
> I got a file that has the extension tar.gz. So i ungzipped it but every
> time I try to get the files out of the archive (tar -x foo.tar .) it
> just sits there. Can somebody help?
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From: default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting windows NTFS drive
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:38:12 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is also a module that you can compile and load. This will also allow you
read only access. I don't know where to get it from, but you can use Altavista
to find it.
Vicente
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Donovan Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Running redhat 5.1, when I try to mount my 2 gig drive with a single
> > 2 gig NTFS partition on it from windows NT 4.0 I get a segmentation
> > fault. I use "mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mountpoint". Anybody know
> > anything on this?
>
> Uhhh, NTFS != mdos/fat/vfat. There is no support for NTFS in the 2.0
> series kernels which Redhat 5.x ships with. If you upgrade to 2.2.x, you
> can mount NTFS read-only.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------
> Joshua Baker-LePain
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Duke University
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:53:35 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IE5 under Linux
Stefan Magnusson wrote:
>
> One minor detail: NS3 does not support JScript, it supports JavaScript.
> JScript is Micro$haft's attempt to impose their own ideas on an already
> established language.
>
> BTW NS 3x Gold's capabilities as a useful tool for creating Web pages is
> at best poor. WYSIWYG will never give you the control a text editor
> gives you. But for prototyping it could be used if nothing else is
> available.
I think though that out of all the wysiwyg html editors, netscape
composer is the best.
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