Linux-Misc Digest #919, Volume #19 Wed, 21 Apr 99 13:13:17 EDT
Contents:
Re: I want an OS written (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Can't find a XServer for S3Trio3D ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: S3Virge X windows display problems (justme)
Re: SuSE support (Michael Hasenstein)
Re: Parport zip & printer -- Problem with 2.2.5 kernel that I didn't (Bruno Barberi
Gnecco)
Re: Can't find a XServer for S3Trio3D ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Using Exmh - problems sending mail with Debian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Opinions on KDE? (James Cook)
Re: Wanted: Linux replacements for VAJ and Quicken ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux on Compaq ARMADA 6500 (Helmut Kreiser)
Printing with IP in Linux ("Douglas A. Haines")
Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gcc/g++ error - too many symbolic links (Gerd Mayer)
Sybex gets it "slightly" wrong in France (**Nick Brown)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: Re: I want an OS written
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:07:38 GMT
In <j2fT2.6105$_c.2225988@WReNphoon3>, Matt Williams:
|> I seem to recall a competition on the Internet to write a complete OS with
|> support for a dial-up Internet connection, web browsing and email facilities
|> that would fit on a 1.44Mb floppy disk. As far as I can remember, somebody
|> DID actually meet these requirements. I can't remember the URL, though. I'll
[Snip...]
Apologies as this has nothing to do with Linux and I'm not sure what if any
limitations were placed in this "competition" but Net-Tamer is shareware to
do this. It will run off of such limited memory on i286 and above chips:
http://www.nettamer.net/
I've actually used it myself on an old i286 laptop and it works quite well,
if you can live with the (unavoidably) primitive graphics.
Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) ** IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO **
1. As antispam, I have completely disabled my "adam" email account.
2. Please vent inconvenience at Cyberpromo and their Satanic spawn.
3. Please look for (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. NO UCE/UBE.
4. I detest UCE/UBE. I support CAUCE; http://www.cauce.org HR 1748.
Standard Disclaimer: My opinions, and not Raytheon Systems Company.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't find a XServer for S3Trio3D
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:37:28 GMT
I need quickly a XServer for S3Trio3D. Please help me if you have any idea
where can I find this. Thank you!
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From: justme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: S3Virge X windows display problems
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:17:39 +0200
Im using S3 virge dx too and i got the SVGA server. Runs like a charm.
Try...
Aeros wrote:
> I just set up my machine running redhat5.2 and im using a S3 Virge DX
> card with 4 megs of memory. When I run Xconfigurator it finds the card
> and monitor no problems. When I use 'startx' it flashes and looks like
> its going to go into X but doesnt and gives me a 111 error and some
> other messages but I cant read them because some of the letters changes
> and every letter has a space between it making the whole thing barely
> legible.
>
> Has anyone come accross this and found a fix? Please let me know, this
> is driving me nuts.
>
> Thanks,
> Micah...
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From: Michael Hasenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE support
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:13:43 +0200
Valerio Cattani wrote:
>
> In January 99 I bought SuSE 5.3
> Few weeks later I'm informed on the web that the release 6.0 is
> available.
> I decide to buy immediately the new release thanks to the new glibc and
> the statement that say:
>
> >"Kernel 2.2-ready": as soon as version 2.2 of the
> > Linux kernel becomes available, you can use it by
> > t into your installation. Should 2.2.
> > be available before SuSE Linux 6.0 will be shipped,
> > we'll include it in the distribution.
> >
> I was hoping that once the new release of the kernel were available to
> receive from SuSE all the support to upgrade the kernel.
> When I went to the update page of SuSE I was very disappointed to find
> that no support was provided. On the contrary I found this statement:
There's a difference between what SuSE said and what you expected. SuSE
said (you quote it yourself, above) that _you_ can do it, and you _can_
do it (I did it myself, and most people who did it didn't have problems
- about the others: there's always gonna be someone for whome something
won't work). Where did SuSE say they (we) would provide it? It wasn't
available, so it wasn't included. NOw what do you complain about?
> >Kernel 2.2.5 Sources: Please note that we cannot
> > provide any installation support for Kernel
> > 2.2.x.
Correct, we didn't do it, and we informed you in advance so you have/had
the choice. Do you have an idea what it means to answer thousands of
questions every day? There have to be restrictions to what we support.
If somebody else can do it a lot better, choose their product, it's as
simple as that.
> Now SuSE is informing that if I want the new kernel I have to buy
> SuSE6.1
No you don't, you can still use 2.2.x with 6.0, but you're on your own.
> With great disappointment I have to recognize that Microsoft is much
> more serious than SuSE. When some upgrading are available they provide
> all the instructions and support!!!!
So if you think it's better for you just buy it. Who said you have to
use Linux?
> Of course I know that I can find on the net tons of generic information
> on how to upgrade to kernel 2.2.x. But I was hoping that having spent
> more than 100 Dollars in few weeks for SuSE-5.3 and SuSE-6.0 to receive
> full support from SuSE to update the kernel.
>
> I was hoping to find serious distributors on the Linux word on the
> contrary I'm realizing now that Microsoft is not so bad!!
Than go back.
a) to get qualified people is a big problem these days
b) if you get one, he/she is very expensive
c) How many packages has SuSE or Redhat or Caldera to sell to pay for
one install supporter, what do you think? That means, one supporter for
how many people/calls? Without clearly specified restrictions on what is
supported or not it just doesn't work. If you know how to do it a lot
better than we're doing it right now I'm sure SuSE management (Redhat
and Caldera and ... as well) would offer you a lot of money to do it.
Which distributor gave install support for 2.2 for their pre-2.2
distributions (e.g. redhat 5.2)? AFAIK nobody did.
--
Michael Hasenstein
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/
Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998
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From: Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Parport zip & printer -- Problem with 2.2.5 kernel that I didn't
Date: 21 Apr 1999 07:23:13 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dale Hennessey wrote:
>
> Hi, folks.
>
> I've tried replacing my 2.2.1 kernel with 2.2.5 on a RedHat
> 5.2 system.
>
> My 2.2.1 kernel could detect the line printer and the parallel
> port zip disk on boot without problem, yet the 2.2.5 kernel
> cannot, When I boot 2.2.5 I get scsi: 0 hosts message and
> mesages about not being able to load the ppa.o and lp.o modules
> because the device is busy.
>
> Clearly, I've missed something and I can't figure out what
> it is.
>
> If I do lsmod, I see that parport, parport_pc and parport_probe
> are loaded.
>
> Can anyone give me some ideas on what to check next? I'm at
> the point of pulling my hair out! (Speeding nature's natural
> process along a little bit. ;))
Here everything is ok, and it's quite weird that it happened to
you, if 2.2.1 was ok. I suggest you to check the kernel parameters, to
see if you didn't miss something as parallel port support, try to
recompile the kernel, try 2.2.6...
--
Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #1383173 - PGP 5.0i user
[I'm running Linux] -=-=- Electric Engineering at Politechnic School, USP
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/ * Check for C, 3D graphics, etc
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't find a XServer for S3Trio3D
Date: 21 Apr 1999 09:25:36 -0400
scristea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
s> I need quickly a XServer for S3Trio3D. Please help me if you have
s> any idea where can I find this. Thank you!
There's a commercial X server, I think from Xi Graphics; there's a
link from the S3 home page, IIRC. I've had reasonably good results
running the kernel VESA framebuffer driver and the XF86_FBDev server
from XFree86 3.3.3.1.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Using Exmh - problems sending mail with Debian
Date: 21 Apr 1999 05:54:02 -0700
In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>A better situation is to leave it sending mail to localhost and let
>sendmail deal with it (because this will work with other mail progs
>too). Have you set up sendmail properly? It's difficult, but
>Linuxconf (more recent versions, certainly) will do an awful lot
>of it for you.
>
>The message about .Xauthority is exmh-specific. It's using some tcl
>thing which is only secure under a session that uses xauth (easiest
>way: use xdm - starting with startx generally doesn't do it).
Thanks Ciaran. I actually solved the problem last night. Normally I disable
sendmail from running as a daemon on my system because I use fetchmail and have
a dial-up connection. It is invoked from the command line when I log on to my IP
to send queued messages and also by my usual email clients when they need to
inject mail into the queue. It appears that Exmh/nmh needs sendmail to be
running as a daemon - as soon as I had re-enabled this my mail get sent as it
should.
Thanks anyway. I shall give xdm a try anyhow.
--
Phillip Deackes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Cook)
Subject: Re: Opinions on KDE?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:12:39 GMT
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:21:54 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
wrote:
>It was the Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:05:22 GMT...
>..and James Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:08:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Coombs) wrote:
>>
>> >I just installed KDE (building from the source, took 6 hours!) the
>> >other day and I am pleasently surprised by the whole thing. Overall
>> >it has more potential than the Win95 GUI because it is so
>> >configurable.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I just have to say something about this. Whenever a new Linux GUI
>> (Gnome, KDE, various X) comes around comparisons are made. Frankly, my jaw drops
>> at the mention of KDE even being in the same ballpark as Win95 or Win98, let
>> alone that KDE is better. KDE is *capable* at best, and it is the best thing
>> going for Linux in the GUI arena right now. I don't want to start a religious
>> war, but feature for feature, Windows (GUI, not OS) is far superior.
>
>How so?
Some aspects where Windows is better are tangible, such as an easily configured
resolution and color depth, very good drag and drop (which really shines when
modifying start menu programs while *in* the start menu), good range of common
dialog boxes.
Others are intangible. I really think the Window's GUI looks more professional.
I know this is subjective, but the controls and fonts just look better. I wish I
could be more specific. The GUI seems to handle better (I did list this under
intangible ;) It's snappier and more responsive on similar hardware.
>
>> Linux is an unwieldy operating system for those not familiar with command-line
>> Unix. The X-Windows environments that ship standard with most Linux builds are
>> pathetic.
>
>Hm, bad graphics performance, buggy servers, what's the problem with
>X?
>
>The X server has got *nothing* to do with user interfaces. It provides
>a server for the X11 protocol, full stop.
>
Please excuse the semantics. Being new to all of this (Linux) I wasn't drawing a
distinction between the user interface and the X server. My comments were
specifically about the GUI's I've been exposed to. More specifically, the
standard one that ships with RedHat 5.2 (I don't know its name), AfterStep,
Gnome, and KDE. FWIW, I would rate them in the reverse order that I listed them.
KDE is by far, more superior in stability and intuitiveness than Gnome.
>mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wanted: Linux replacements for VAJ and Quicken
Date: 21 Apr 1999 10:26:22 -0400
Its actually gnucash now (www.gnucash.org), its gets my "most prereqs"
award; something like 10 other packages not standard on my redhat 5.1
system.
I'm still building it so can't comment on it...
--
Tom Evans
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From: Helmut Kreiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Compaq ARMADA 6500
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:59:27 +0200
Hi, i would like to install Linux on a Compaq ARMADA 6500 notebook. Does anybody
has some experiences with
that type of notebook, or did install Linux yet ??
Thanks for your messages in advance
Helmut Kreiser
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From: "Douglas A. Haines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Printing with IP in Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:36:03 +0000
Hi Folks,
I have my Linux box networking with TCP/IP pretty good at this point,
but I cannot figure out how to get a printer configured through the
spooler that prints to an IP address. I have a LinkSys Pocket print
server that has an IP address and I can print to this through WinDoze
via TCP/IP. I recently purchased a book on Linux Secrets and it does
not give me the secret on setting up TCP/IP printers (I guess doing this
is a secret in itself). I'm running RedHat 5.1 with a 2.0.34 kernel.
Any information is helpful. Thanks.
Doug Haines
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:26:30 GMT
I've done the same thing. I actually have three partitions, windows98, linux,
and a shared (backup) directory. what exactly are you having trouble with? If
you want to make another partition, then you first need to have free HD space.
In order to do that, you'll probibly have to:
1. nix one of your current paritions and resize it, leaving space for a third
partition, or
2. Use some sort of partitioning program (i.e. partition magic) to free up
space while preserving all the files on your partition. -Personally, I
repartitioned my hd, but when I installed redhat, I used the 'workstation'
installation. Redhat consequently repartitioned my c: drive, freeing enough
space for yet another partition. The thing about the server or workstation
install is that it automatically does this partitioning for you. You could
just remake your original linux partition into your communial parition, and
you would be all set.
I had the same problem when I start with linux (which was only a little while
ago.) My advice would be to download the newest release of gnome 1.0
(http://www.gnome.org) for redhat. It will then be alot easier for you to set
up linux to dialout to netcom for you.
Here is an example of my paritions (if this helps you):
PARTITION OS HD# SIZE
1. Main win98 hda1 1.43gb
2. / linux hda3 996mb
3. swap linux hda4 65mb
4. shared both hda5 1.53gb
whenever I download files for linux, it goes in my d: drive (shared) in the
'linux' folder. WHen I boot up redhat, I just link the drive up (in my case:
mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /mnt/shared) and then cd to the files and install.
hope this helps,
jashu
In article <7fj4kf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to create a partition that I can share files between Linux and
> Dos on the same harddrive. I'm dual booting right now and that's working
> fine. Since I'm new to Linux and am having trouble setting it up I go back
> to Win** to download files from Linux ftp sites and want to be able to read
> them on a small partition that I just created with FIPS. I didn't format it
> under DOS so I'm waiting for instructions on what to do next. Thanks
>
> Ed
>
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:55:29 +0200
From: Gerd Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc/g++ error - too many symbolic links
> Trying to compile a mass of C++ code, I get "Too many symbolic links"
> as header files get included. Funny thing is, not one symbolic link
> is in my include path. All header files are in the same directory,
> at the same directory level. I think the error is actually that
> I have too many levels of include - one header includes another
> which includes another, etc.
>
> How would I fix this short of restructuring the code? It looks to
> me like a compiler deficiency...
A you sure that you don't have a recursive call?
To prevent this something like that might be useful:
-> header.h
#ifndef _HEADER_H_
#define _HEADER_H_
<headerstuff>
#endif
Gerd
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sybex gets it "slightly" wrong in France
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:45:37 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to the French hacker mag "Le Virus Informatique" (and they
publish a pic of the box to prove it), the Sybex distribution of Rad Hat
5.2 in France has a couple of, erm, minor problems.
First, it says "requires Windows 95/98". I presume that the moron who
is paid to write the disk covers wasn't awake that day.
Then, before you open the disks, you have to read a little manual saying
"Sybex Original Software" (uh-huh) and accept a license saying
"Reproduction in whole or in part forbidden", etc etc. Can anyone say
GPL ?
Finally, they forgot to include the sources. Dear oh dear.
Oh yes, and it's shipping today with.. KDE beta 4. Hmmm.
More (in French) at http://www.acbm.com. I did say it was a hacker mag;
their home page even has a link to www.kevinmitnick.com !
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