Linux-Misc Digest #999, Volume #19 Fri, 30 Apr 99 19:13:13 EDT
Contents:
SB AWE64 & audio CDs ("William B. Cattell")
Re: Java Problems (Hans Wolters)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Peter Seebach)
Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition? (Rob Lockhart)
Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I proceed
(Andrew Comech)
glibc 2.1 + downgrade + staroffice (Jeremy Weinberger)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Christopher
B. Browne)
Re: Remote boot in linux (David Ruy Oliveira Junior)
Re: Where to get Linux OS (jik-)
Re: linux to replace windoze machines ? (jik-)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism") (Mike Coffin)
Re: Fdisk/df BUG. What should I do? (David Stanaway)
Re: Extract from Tar (Eric Potter)
Re: linux to replace windoze machines ? (brian moore)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 (Sean Melody)
Dual video cards (C Lamb)
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SB AWE64 & audio CDs
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:40:57 GMT
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Yo all;
I've finally gotten my kernel recompiled (2.2.6) and can 'cat' .au and
.wav files to /dev/xxxx. If I try to play an audio CD I get an error
message on the console of;
CD audio: ioctl error on /dev/cdrom cmd:=CDROMPLAYMSF errno=5
If I do 'cat /dev/sndstat' I get nothing listed under 'Installed
Drivers:' or 'Card config:' but I do have 'Sound Blaster 16' under
'Audio devices:', 'AWE32-0.4.3' in 'Synth devices', etc - see the
attached snd.txt file.
I've re-run the install/setup process to get this far but I'm at a loss
as to what I've missed. TIA.
Bill
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OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux c659784-a.flrmnd1.tx.home.com 2.2.6 #1 Thu Apr 29 12:54:38 CDT 1999 i586
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Card config:
Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16) (DUPLEX)
Synth devices:
0: AWE32-0.4.3 (RAM512k)
Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16
1: AWE Midi Emu
Timers:
0: System clock
Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster
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From: Hans Wolters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Java Problems
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:54:59 +0200
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Colin Watson wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Paul E J King wrote:
>
>> I am running a Caldera 1.3 system that has a legacy jdk-1.0 running by
>> default. I am running a later version of Java in a different tree
>> (/usr/backups/java) (looks like 1.1.3) that isn't in my $PATH, but I
>> still get some weird errors (in my source I am only calling the Applet
>> and AWT libs):
..................................
>What does your CLASSPATH environment variable say? It normally points
>to an archive of classes compatible with whatever Java interpreter
>you're using. It looks distinctly like you haven't updated this to
>point to the 1.1.3 classes.
As a workaround you could use a seperate $CLASSPATH whenever you are running or
compiling the applet. i.e:
java -classpath ./:<PATH-to-the-java/lib/classes.zip>:$CLASSPATH source.java
(where the $CLASSPATH could be other classes like jdbc drivers)
for copiling you could use:
java -g -O -classpath ./:<PATH-to-the-java/lib/classes.zip>:$CLASSPATH
source.java
That way you could use both of the JDK's. You could also compile 1.0.2 source
code with the 1.1.3 compiler as long as you don't use newer statements. This
will make the compiler show an error in which he indicates that you should run
it with -deprecation.
..........................
>> Problem number 2: My default Java fonts for applets running
>> on other web sites are so small that they are completely
>> illegible. This is happening on Netscape 4.x (all versions I've
>> used between 4.0.1 and 4.5). The applets run properly, except
>> for the font sizes.
>
>I think you may be able to change this in awt.properties in the lib
>directory (as I remember) of your Java distribution, but I've never
>tried this myself.
Fix the font size in the applet itself. *(See the api's on ho to do that)
Regards Hans
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:05:19 GMT
In article <7gd4da$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <bob@nospam> wrote:
>In article <TlnW2.2084$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>If we allow ultra-capitalistic
>>>free market politics to take over, then the quality of the product
>>>will suffer.
>>This is an unfounded assertion.
>This how do you explain that windows, the more used commercial software,
>sucks by any standard, while Gnu software is much higher quality?
"A happened, then B happened, therefore, A causes B." Not so.
I have seen a lot of very good software, and a lot of very bad software,
from both the free and commercial communities.
GNU software has a *HUGE* technological advantage over closed-source software;
this has nothing to do with "capitalism" - we simply outnumber them.
>>In fact, Linux is a beautiful example of capitalism and free-market politics.
>>It is the answer of the free market to the problem of a monopolistic vendor of
>>shoddy OS's; we replace them.
>huh? you are trying to have your cake and eat it too?
Yes. That's what free software is all about. I can get, for free,
professionally developed software. I can make a living programming without
having to hoard my output.
I love it.
>MS software is based on capitalism ideas (make software to make money only).
That's not capitalism, that's greed.
>and yet, you claim this idea will produce good software, yet in the same
>breath, you are saying Linux came due to need to replace "shoddy" OS's that
>you just said was unfounded assertion.
The unfounded assertion is that capitalism is what made shoddy OS's.
Capitalism allows people to try to make a living selling anything they
think people will buy. RedHat makes money selling Linux, even though you
can get Linux for free.
I claim that the free market produced Linux; it certainly wasn't mandated
by any government. Linux has grown because capitalism works - people who
can get a better deal hiring someone to add a feature to Linux, than trying
to get it from Microsoft, will do so, and Linux grows.
>Make up your mind.
I have. It's not that complicated. Capitalism is not the reason that
Microsoft sucks; arrogance and incompetence are.
Compare OS/2 to Windows on technical merit; OS/2 is clearly better. It
lost, because technical merit isn't everything. Compare Windows to Linux;
Linux is getting more market share, Windows is getting less. Marketing
isn't everything either.
The ability of the market to replace, not just products, not just companies,
but entire *paradigms* when they aren't efficient, is why it's working.
Capitalism's sole long-term goal is to make the most efficient possible
use of resources. Like it or not, Linux is more efficient than Windows
at using developer time, and it's winning.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Lockhart)
Subject: Re: Creating Linux/Dos shared partition?
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:05:24 GMT
Bill Unruh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: well. Just mount your DOS partition as a Linux partition
: eg put
: /dev/hda5 /dos msdos defaults 0 0
: into /etc/fstab
: (of course using the correct partition number for your particular
: partition)
I'd suggest using VFAT, since it supports long-filenames as well as FAT32.
But, you'll have to put "modprobe vfat" in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local if
you don't have autofs daemon running.
: make sure that the directory /dos exits with rwx permission for
: everyone, and then do
: mount -a
: and your dos files will be under /dos
: You can now read those files as anyone, and write to them as root.
: (Since DOS does not have owners, linux has made the conservative
: assumption that it should be root who owns those files.)
: PS. If you ask a question, why do you not give an address to which an
: answer can be sent?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I
proceed
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Apr 1999 14:04:45 -0500
On 29 Apr 1999 22:08:40 -0700, Michael Powe wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Thanks for the laugh. As though something bad would happen to
> Andrew> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Andrew> Hey, what about standards of written English? Assuming you
> Andrew> are native English-speaker, you have got less excuse to
> Andrew> make mistakes than I do.
>
>Doh?
I am sorry: I have read that as `had would happen'.
>Perhaps you should stick to your generic sneer-and-jeer, you flap about
>like a boated fish when you try to approach a real subject.
You call your advocating those set-on-your-own-wish standards
a `real subject'?
> Andrew> Do not waste your precious time, go fight violators of
> Andrew> usenet standards.
>
>I am: you.
OK, go ahead. What's the fine for "browsing without a valid ID"?
Man, does not this sound like the notorious PSN of Pentium III?
> Andrew> PS. What is good is that this quarrel clearly demonstrates
> Andrew> the broadness and diversity of Linux community. We need to
>
>What is bad is that it demonstrates the intellectual passivity of
>persons like yourself, who then represent themselves as the "linux
>community" -- and in so doing encourage others to "do their own thing"
>without regard to the impact of their behaviors on the community as a
>whole.
I keep forgetting that you are in charge of usenet standards and probably
you are the one who decides who's a member of `Linux community' and who is
not. I am "another graduate of Bill Gates", they way you put it; right?
Rest in peace,
Andrew
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From: Jeremy Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux
Subject: glibc 2.1 + downgrade + staroffice
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:53:19 -0500
Does anybody know what is going on with glibc 2.1?
1. ftp.gnu.org isn't providing it right now. Here's what's on the ftp
site:
glibc-2.1 has been (temporarily) removed, until some
political issues are worked out.
2. My redhat 6.0 installation just upgraded me to 2.1
3. I want to reinstall staroffice 5.0 and get it working again, but it
only runs with 2.0.
Can somebody please provide some advice on the appropriate method for
downgrading to glibc 2.0? Is it as simple as rebuilding libc-2.0.so and
relinking libc.so.6 to it? Is there anything that actually requires 2.1
or runs better using the newer library? Why in the heck isn't it
completely backwards-compatible? Because I can boot and run all my other
software, I'm assuming that other things linked against glibc 2.0 were
not broken. What's different about staroffice that it breaks?
jeremy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:24:02 GMT
On 30 Apr 1999 20:03:15 GMT, Craig Dowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>It seems fashionable to criticise capitalism, but it works.
It seems to be fashionable to criticize capitalism based on making
nonsensical claims about what capitalism is.
--
"You know, capitolism is really awful. Capatolism is all about when
people don't have enough to eat, and, y'know, look at what happened in
Ethiopeea! People starving all over. Obvious proof that capitulism is
bad." -- Seen somewhere on the Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: David Ruy Oliveira Junior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remote boot in linux
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:13:28 GMT
F. Paulin wrote:
>
> I am a student, and for a school work I wanted to submit a theoretical
> network using Linux. For the network, I wanted to use about 30 computers
> without floppy (the network being for a class room, no floppy means no
virus
> form students) and because I needed to run several softwares on win95, I
> wanted to make windoze remote-boot on the Linux server to avoid the
nightmare
> of having a station crashes with no floppy drive on it. I know that
remote
> boot is possible, but is it possible to do it like this? I don't need to
> know how...yet :). All I need is to know if it's possible to do it like
this.
>
>
> If you excuse my bad English, I usually write in Potuguese >
> Thank you in advance for your help.
> --
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:32:31 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get Linux OS
> Hey, why aren't you giving away Slack? :)
because I want to keep it.
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:34:24 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux to replace windoze machines ?
-bill- wrote:
>
> I am about (in 3 months, more or less) to implement a network.
> I was planning to use windoze machines, but I spent all day today to try
> and get one to run.
>
> I basically need to run Netscape Navigator at 1024 x 800 (or whatever
> the correct description near that is) and 16 bit color and WordPerfect.
You will need at least 2M of video memory. Look at
http://www.xfree86.org in documentation at the supported cardlist to
find supported cards.
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism")
Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:26:15 -0700
Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes. As the thread has mentioned before, there are areas in which
> capitalistic ideas simply do not work. Technology is one of them,
> especially computing. While it has a few meagre benefits, on the
> whole, capitalism gets computers nowhere.
What kind of processor do you use? Was it developed for profit by a
capitalistic corporation?
-mike
(Not speaking for my employer.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stanaway)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Fdisk/df BUG. What should I do?
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:27:49 GMT
Please, my disks are now `full' when in reality one is half full and the other
is hardly being used.
I have had no leads on this problem and would welcome any hunches that people
have.
Thanks.
David
PS: Sorry for the cross post, I will only be reading on aus.computer.linux
I hope this isn't a problem for anyone.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Stanaway wrote:
>I have an unusual and distrubing bug here:
>Disk /dev/hdc: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 4095 cylinders
>
>Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
>/dev/hdc1 1 31 62464+ 82 Linux swap
>/dev/hdc2 32 793 1536192 83 Linux native
>/dev/hdc3 794 4095 6656832 83 Linux native
>
>Command (m for help): q
>buzz:~# df -h
>Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>/dev/hdc3 1.4G 1.3G 30M 98% /usr/local
>/dev/hdc2 1.4G 1.3G 30M 98% /usr
>
>buzz:/usr/local# du -hs
>743M .
>buzz:/usr/local# cd ..
>buzz:/usr# du -hs
>1.3G .
>
>
>Why is df showing the combined used for /usr and /usr/local
>for both /usr and /usr/local
>and the other /usr/local stats match /usr when they shoudn't
>
>Should I be VERY concerned about this, or only mildly.
>Dist is Debian 2.1 (Well it is 2.2 now.. but I had the same prob with 2.1)
>The kernel is 2.2.5 but I had the same probe with 2.2.3 ans 2.0.36
>
>Df is from GNU filesys utils 4.0
>
>I dread to think what will hapen when the combined size of the two partions
>contents climbs above the capacity of the first partion.
>
>David Stanaway.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: Extract from Tar
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:43:44 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
Stephane POMATTO enlightened this group thus:
> Hi all,
>
> How can I extract a complete directory (in recursive mode) from a Tar
> archive ?
>
> I have an archive called usr.tar wihch is a complete archive of my /usr.
> I want to extract /X11R6 only from this archive
>
> I typed tar xvzf /root/backup/usr.tar X11R6 but it didn't work
>
> Any idea ?
>
> Thanks.
>
tar xvf /root/backup/usr.tar "*X11R6/*"
If you gzipped the archive, use this instead:
gzip -cd /root/backup/usr.tar | tar xvf - "*X11R6/*"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: linux to replace windoze machines ?
Date: 30 Apr 1999 22:45:15 GMT
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:48:36 -0400,
-bill- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am about (in 3 months, more or less) to implement a network.
> I was planning to use windoze machines, but I spent all day today to try
> and get one to run.
Heh. I bought my most recent Linux box for that reason. I got fed up
ftp'ing a thousand or so files totalling about a gig to a Windows
machine with a CD burner. I ended up just buying another Linux box
instead of fighting with Windows.
> I basically need to run Netscape Navigator at 1024 x 800 (or whatever
> the correct description near that is) and 16 bit color and WordPerfect.
Icky: you can do much better resolution and color depth than that. I
guess you could use that if you wanted to, though.
I love my 1280x1024x32bpp. :)
> I read the HowTo and the FAQ, but I could not determine if I can support
> a card at that resolution. I have not purchased the computers yet so I
> have some choice in video cards.
You can support most cards at that.
> Any thoughts and/or suggestions, including a link to where the
> information is that I really should have found, would be appreciated
http://www.xfree86.org/ has a list of supported cards: read the notes on
them. Usually you can go down in depth and resolution (so if a card
supports 1024x768x8bpp, it will almost certainly support 4bpp).
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From: Sean Melody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:24:12 -0500
What? That is asinine...I installed as root and two other users use the
program on my home computer...
jason wrote:
>
> The way I got it to work as a user was to install it as that user. If I recall
> correctly, only the user who installs it can run it.
>
> -jason
>
> (to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lamb)
Subject: Dual video cards
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:52:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All,
I'm going for a serious rationalization of my home PC setup - it's getting
to the point where I'm sleeping on PC's...
I'm having one main machine 350MHz w 256MB (yes, its FreeBSD, don't flame
me) and a display machine (since GMV runs better on Linux) that dual boots
to Win98 and Linux (TurboLinux) PII233 w 64MB and i740 AGP.
Now TurboLinux 3.0 doesn't come with X 3.3.3.1 - so it doesn't support AGP
cards. I can easily bung a PCI S3ViRGE in this machine. Is it easy to get
W98 to use the i740 and Linux w Xfree86 3.3.2 to use the S3?
Apologies if this is a HOWTO. If so, could you please direct me - I've had
a search on www.linux.org and nothing was forthcoming.
I am loath to d/l XFree86 3.3.3.1 as phonecalls aren't free and also the
machines contain confidential info so I don't maintain a net connection.
regards
Chris
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