Linux-Misc Digest #997, Volume #19 Fri, 30 Apr 99 16:13:19 EDT
Contents:
Re: Laser printing problems. (Rob van der Putten)
Re: Blac icons in Netscape (diffuze)
Re: Where to get glibc2 source... (Peter Nelson)
Re: I have to save my system (Albert Ulmer)
Re: CTRL-S (Jonas)
Re: Program to play Radio Jingles (John Garrison)
Re: IP masquarade & IP forwarding (Bruce)
Re: CTRL-S ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Do I Make A Bootable RH6 ISO Image? (Rod Smith)
Re: Linux on WinChip? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Peter Seebach)
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Question (jik-)
q3test and opti sound card - anyone? (jmsalvo)
writing to other mounted device (The Dude)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Craig Dowell)
Re: Gnome Help ! ("Jim Faulkner")
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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Laser printing problems.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:06:24 +0200
Hi there
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Samuel A. Rogers. wrote:
> I just got a Samsung QwikLaser 85G laser print.
You should always check te hardware compatability howto before buying any
hardware.
Regards,
Rob
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From: diffuze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blac icons in Netscape
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:23:11 +0200
Jakup Michaelsen wrote:
>
> Greetings.
Hi :)
> Every time I've installed Linux - SuSE and RedHat - Netscape has > always had black
>icons.
Hmmmm, I remember something about that...I _think_ some versions of
Netscape do that when you use X in 24bpp. Try 16bpp and see if it's
better. If you don't use 24bpp, then I don't know since you have no
problems with other applications...
And If I'm wrong - correct me ;)
/diffuze
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Nelson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Where to get glibc2 source...
Date: 30 Apr 1999 14:20:06 GMT
In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.9904301014510.9223-100000@darkstar>,
Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know where the seg faults are coming from: anytime a program is linked
> with a different release of glibc2 than what I have, they seg fault. Come
> on GNU, where's that v. 2.1.0? :-(
ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/ has glibc-2.1, but not the crypt tarball (or maybe
it was linuxthreads...) which i got from ftp://ftp.funet.it/
but! i couldn't get it working, had unresolved symbols, so either my
compile was broken, or it's not backward compatible (or it's 'cos i'm
using rh 5.0 atm :( )
HTHs
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I have to save my system
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:59 GMT
> my hard-disk dies and so I have to copy my Linux to a new drive.
> Currently I can mount both partitions (new and old).
> How can I copy all files and directories without losing symbolic
> links, etc.?
=BBman dd=AB is your friend.
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From: Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Date: 30 Apr 1999 15:36:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've noticed that within a virtual console CTRL-S disables the keyboard.
> I am sure this is not a bug, so what is its purpose. I can only think
> that it could be to lock the console for whilst away from the keyboard,
> but if so how do you unlock it ?
I'm not sure exactly what the purpose of it is, but whilst messing
around with it, I found that pressing CTRL-Q sends whatever you typed
after CTRL-S to the console. Pressing CTRL-C after CTRL-S seems to
cancel the CTRL-S situation and returns you to your normal prompt.
Anybody know what this is for? Is it just for some sort of keyboard
capture or delayed command entry?
--
Giles Paterson
4th Year MEng Software Engineering Student,
"... Nowadays it is hard to die young, no matter how stupid, slow or
myopic you are." Dr Richard Dawkins
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From: John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Program to play Radio Jingles
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:16:38 GMT
I'm Trying to Learn COBOL. I'd love to code something like that for you
if you can't find it. It'd be good to have on a resume. I'll have to get a
Linux COBOL compiler.
I know nothing about the radio though. Are the jingles is some sort of
computer file format? What categories would you want the jingles to fall
in?
Mark Broadbent wrote:
> Hi
>
> I help run the computer system for a small student radion station. I
> was wondering if anybody knew of a program that would allow us to play
> jingles, a way of grouping jingles into catagories and have a _really_
> easy to use interface.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
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From: Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IP masquarade & IP forwarding
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:41:42 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It works! Thanks!
Bruce
Matthew Bafford wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:27:43 +0000, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> lucked upon a computer, and thus typed in the following:
> [snip] what looks like (on quick examination) to be the right steps,
> except for the missing:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> : Thanks
>
> HTH,
>
> : Bruce Corbett
>
> --Matthew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: CTRL-S
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:31:18 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
scribe:
: I've noticed that within a virtual console CTRL-S disables the keyboard.
: I am sure this is not a bug, so what is its purpose. I can only think
: that it could be to lock the console for whilst away from the keyboard,
: but if so how do you unlock it ?
<ctrl q>
It doesn't lock the keyboard, just the screen.
Any keypresses between the ctrl S and ctrl Q are queued and make it to the
console the moment it's released.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WordStar (or equiv.) on LINUX?
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:22:20 GMT
In his obvious haste, Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
:>AFAIK, WordStar doesn't exist for Linux.
: It seems not.
Joe does though. And that's a Wordstar clone...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: How Do I Make A Bootable RH6 ISO Image?
Date: 30 Apr 1999 15:03:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <7g9u2b$e7b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Trimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have downloaded RH6 and have a good copy. I can install from it without
> a problem. Last night I tried to make an ISO image and burn it to a CD.
> I used the command...
>
> mkisofs -o /tmp/redhat.iso -v -r -T -J -V "RedHat 6.0" \
> -b images/boot.img -c boot.cat /home/ftp/pub/redhat-6.0/
>
> This gave me my iso image file which I was able to mount and test. I then
> wrote it to CD using Adaptec EZ-CD Creator for Windows95, and everything
> seemed to be fine. I could work with the files in both Linux and
> Windows. When I booted from the CD everything seemed fine until it asked
> me the type of installation. I selected LOCAL CD-ROM and it tried to
> initialize the CD. Then it just froze. I have never had this problem
> with CD's I have purchased.
Are you able to install from this CD if you boot from a floppy? It sounds
to me as if your problem isn't with the BOOTABLE portion of the CD, but
with something else, likely permissions on executable files on the CD.
Check my web page for more information:
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/rhjol.html
I've not yet updated this for RH 6.0, but the information should still be
95-99% applicable to RH 6.0.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux on WinChip?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:27:22 GMT
Glenn, That was my concern as well when I installed Linux as my primary OS
on my machine (by accident mind you, was trying to do a dual-boot and chose
"server" DOH!!! Lost all my files!), I have the Winchip 200mhz cpu in my
linux box running with no problems at all, (maybe RedHat 5.2 has something to
do with it? not sure...).
HTH
-Sergio
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn T. Jayaputera) wrote:
> Would Linux works on WinChip based system?
> or this CPU is only for stupid Windows?
>
> thanks
> glenn
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 30 Apr 1999 17:58:01 GMT
In his obvious haste, Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: errr.....i think right at this moment your nation is bombing another
: country trying to destabilise it forever....and about WW II i just want to
: say one word....Dresden....
Errrrm... What about London, coventry, and many other british cities and
towns that were bombed by the Germans? It was a full scale world war.
Oh, and it's not BRITAIN that's bombing the serbs, it's NATO, of which
Britain is a small part. The major influence of this offensive is good ol'
Bill Clinton.
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Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:18:11 GMT
In article <YhlW2.1410$Ie6.876911@WReNphoon4>,
Alex Gurney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As I understand it - and please feel free to correct me *politely*
>if I am wrong - capitalism is fundamentally about making money.
Not exactly. Capitalism is largely a belief system that the most efficient
way to get everything done is to allow competition on many levels, by making
it so that the way you make money is to do what needs to be done.
Lighthouses are often offered as an example of a "public good", but a
surprisingly large number of them (most, I believe, throughout our written
history) have been privately funded.
>In the case of technology, the most important thing is really that
>the product should work.
Agreed.
>If we can make products (that work) in a
>non-capitalistic or %2522bazaar%2522 environment, then that is good.
"non-capitalistic" and "bazaar" are completely orthogonal terms in this
context.
A "bazaar" system may be capitalistic; a non-capitalistic system may use
"cathedral" development.
The terms are not especially related, and I think you err in treating them
as if they were equivalent.
>Linux
>as an OS is stable and practical, and it is a demonstration that
>GPL distribution actually does work.
Indeed.
>If we allow ultra-capitalistic
>free market politics to take over, then the quality of the product
>will suffer.
This is an unfounded assertion.
In fact, Linux is a beautiful example of capitalism and free-market politics.
It is the answer of the free market to the problem of a monopolistic vendor of
shoddy OS's; we replace them. We don't wait for something better to come
along, we come along and become something better.
>Cutting corners will be inevitable, because in the
>capitalists' system the utility of the system is irrelevant - only
>how much money one can make out of it is important.
The utility of the system is not *irrelevant* - it is, however, only one
of the many inputs.
That said, you don't make a lot of money being useless. RedHat makes money,
because RedHat offers something that is of use to people. Cygnus makes money
by offering utility to its customers.
My mom's article actually discussed why this works; free software is
capitalism at its finest, separating out the value (work) from the stuff
everyone can have for free (software). We pay, not for software of dubious
quality, but for work, which has quality we can judge and experience.
>One of the
>great strengths of Linux is the expertise of its core user base -
>few commercial companies could afford to employ so many trained
>people to look after their code.
Agreed.
But not all capitalism is about naive commercial companies that haven't caught
on to the technology. Capitalism is a system in which everyone gets to play
on whatever terms they want.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:39:38 GMT
In article <7gcorh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Being cavalier about the anti DR-DOS FUD didn't help Digital or Novel
>>sustain a market presence for a truly superior DOS. AND, the vastly
...<snip>...
>Bullshit. Politically correct, but bullshit nevertheless. DR-DOS was
>as bletcherous piece of dreck as MS-DOS. "truly superior" and "DOS" in
>the same sentence... Gimme a break. "truly superior fecies". Both parodies
>on OS had fully deserved being forgotten. One down, one to go. Pox on
>the whole CP/M breed...
...<snip>...
Some of us remember CP/M for Intel 8080 class machines, you know,
those 8 bit machines with 16 bit addressing. It was written by the late
Gary Kildall and for the hardware it worked on it was pretty good. I
don't know anything about later versions or descendants so I only speak
for the original in my protest against your "Pox on the whole CP/M breed"
remark.
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:51:31 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question
Rizwan Syed wrote:
>
> Hello Guys and gals,
> I'm somewhat of a newbie with Linux, and probably
> have a newbie question. I need a quick answer so if someone could
> email me please. I need to find out how to make files invisible
> or 'hidden' in linux. If anyone knows, please let me know at your
> earliest convenience.
put a . at the beginning of the name.
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From: jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: q3test and opti sound card - anyone?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:41:25 GMT
Running q3test with an opti sound card (8c391), q3test seems as if it keeps on
repeating the sound, such that i have to wait 5 to 10 secs. before q3test
responds to my kb input or mouse movement.
Even if I run q3test as a user who do not have the proper permission for
/dev/dsp, and therefore no sound, q3test still is slow.
Anyone out there with an opti card running q3test okay?
John Salvo
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From: The Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: writing to other mounted device
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:48:05 GMT
Hi guys, can someone tell me what sould I do in order to write to my other
partitions, or floppy. I can only read from them but can not write to them,
not even when logged as root. All partitions are mounted as vfat.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Dowell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 30 Apr 1999 20:03:15 GMT
>Alex Gurney wrote:
>If we allow ultra-capitalistic free market politics to take over, then
>the quality of the product will suffer. Cutting corners will be
>inevitable, because in the capitalists' system the utility of the system
>is irrelevant - only how much money one can make out of it is important.
Ummm. If a widget is useless who will buy it? Of course utility is
relevant. There is always going to be a population of suckers, but
try selling a box full of electric components, at cost, claiming that
"its internal hypergolic phenocryst will counteract the pandimensional
influence of aging on the human systole." Ponder the relevance of
the utility of the system while you are in prison.
As to the detrimental influence of the free market on product quality,
investigate the Trabant. Ultracaptialist free market influences were
notably absent in that case. Take a look at a BMW M5. Any differences?
It seems fashionable to criticise capitalism, but it works. For example,
a Ford Escort may not be the best car by any stretch of the imagination,
but it provides affordable, reliable transportation to milions of
people. It gives them what they need. Corners were cut in its design,
of course; if they weren't cut, you'd have ended up with a McLaren F1.
In that context, your "cutting corners" is not always a bad thing. You
may call it cutting a corner, someone else may call it a tradeoff or
product definition or design decision. Unix and Linux certainly weren't
built without any of this. Some people just like the result of the
tradeoffs and design decisions made for Unix better than those made for
Windows; and, of course, vice versa.
It seems to me that when free markets are removed, _that's_ when you
need to start worrying. It's been proved over, and over, and over
again.
None of this means, of course, that your sale price for a great design
and product cannot be zero (modulo minor inconveniences like anti-
trust laws).
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From: "Jim Faulkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Gnome Help !
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:51:46 -0400
for RedHat, its in /etc/X11/xinitrc or /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
towards the end of the file, replace the line which opens your present
window manager ("fvwm" or something) with "exec gnome-session".
By the way, I have found gnome to be quite buggy, you might want to use KDE
until a more stable version comes out.
Jim
John van der Zanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7gcosu$3he$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Unpacked all gnome packages without serious problems, but what to do now
??
> the manual says this
>
> To start gnome, you must edit the X startup files. (which one and how ?)
> a sample x startup file using gnome-session follows:
> #!/bin/bash
> exec gnome-session
> ## end sample
> the default Gnome session configuratio file is
> /usr/share/gnome/default.session. The user gnome session is
> $HOME/.gnome/session.
>
> All nice and well, but what must i do ? I dont have any clue what this all
> means as i am a NEWBIE !!
> Which file must i edit and what should i put in it ??
>
>
> John
>
>
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